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Re: I am needing assistance updating to the latest version of NVDA

 

On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 03:25 PM, Betsy Grenevitch wrote:
As I have told you and now told him I do not feel comfortable with websites where I have to download something unless there is a direct link.
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And, as you said, it's something you need to get over.  When you go to the nvaccess.org website, the folks who created and maintain NVDA, the Download link is at the very top of the page and there's another option elsewhere.

It is absolutely, positively not up to anyone to provide anyone else with direct links, even though I, and many others, do so quite frequently.  If you can't trust the site of the entity that makes something then trusting anyone providing you a link is a much bigger leap of faith.
 
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Re: microsoft edge saying loading compleat

Luke Davis
 

The other thing you can probably do, is replace the phrase "loading complete" with nothing, in one of the pronunciation dictionaries.

Luke

On Thu, 30 Jul 2020, Bobby Vinton wrote:

Hay I am using the new Microsoft edge and I was wondering if you could stop nvda from saying loading compleat every time you open or going to a nother web page?  Just let me know


Re: I am needing assistance updating to the latest version of NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

You will be fine. Go to nvda-project.org and use yoru screen reader's find function to find and navigate. You will be fine. You won't get hurt.

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On 30 Jul 2020, at 12:25, Betsy Grenevitch wrote:

Thank you. I am waiting to hear back from David hopefully with a link to the full install. As I have told you and now told him I do not feel comfortable with websites where I have to download something unless there is a direct link. I know it is a fear I need to get over but I guess it is because of a lack of training on computers.


On 7/30/2020 11:39 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
And to add to Mr. Goldfield's advice, if you have an issue running the full installer for NVDA 2020.2, then manually uninstall whatever NVDA you currently have installed via Control Panel, Programs and Features, then trying to install the latest again.  But don't do that first, as an install-over install generally works just fine.
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Re: I am needing assistance updating to the latest version of NVDA

Betsy Grenevitch
 

Thank you. I am waiting to hear back from David hopefully with a link to the full install. As I have told you and now told him I do not feel comfortable with websites where I have to download something unless there is a direct link. I know it is a fear I need to get over but I guess it is because of a lack of training on computers.


On 7/30/2020 11:39 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
And to add to Mr. Goldfield's advice, if you have an issue running the full installer for NVDA 2020.2, then manually uninstall whatever NVDA you currently have installed via Control Panel, Programs and Features, then trying to install the latest again.  But don't do that first, as an install-over install generally works just fine.
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Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 

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Re: for Joseph Lee

Andre Fisher
 

Hi.

I recall that there is an antivirus package that blocks use of NVDA with the web, or at least makes it very difficult to use. I don't remember the name though, and was wondering if he had it installed.


Re: how do I silence the "space" bar?

CARLOS-ESTEBAN
 

Hello.
Well... NVDA Extension Global Plugin is good, but the manual no is in english, only the file readme.
Now, is possible use speech dictionaries only in somme applications using this add-on:
Regards.

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.
Músico (pianista) y también ayuda a usuarios con discapacidad visual en el
uso de lectores de pantalla y tecnología.
Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.

Musicien (pianist) and also help to users with a visual disability in the use of screen readers and technology.
Certified expert in screen reader NVDA.



El mié., 29 de jul. de 2020 a la(s) 18:39, abdul muhamin (abdulmuhamin600@...) escribió:

You can use global plugin for NVDA, it has a lot of functionality which makes it unique. Get it from

here

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Curtis Delzer
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 2:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I silence the "space" bar?

 

thanks, I'll definitely look into this.

 

Curtis Delzer

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K 6 V F O

Rialto, CA

 

curtis@...

 

On 7/29/2020 2:13 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

> The first thing that springs to mind is using one of the speech

> dictionaries, presuming you have letters being pronounced, and

> substitute the space character with no replacement.

>

> Since you mention "many applications" that implies "not all."  You may

> want to use application profiles as part of this, but I'm not quite

> clear at the moment how that would be tied in with dictionaries, which I

> believe are independent of the application profile being used, but I

> could be wrong.

>

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> Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

>

> */Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its

> platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth./*

>

> ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in /New York Times/ article, /How Anti-Vaccine

> Sentiment Took Hold in the United States/

> <https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-us.html>/,/September

> 23, 2019

>

>

 

 

 


Re: microsoft edge saying loading compleat

 

Hi,
A workaround is already available: I know I'm advertising this a lot, but install Windows 10 App Essentials, then open NVDA menu/Preferences/Settings/Object Presentation and turn off "report notifications". If you do turn this off, you won't be able to hear things such as volume changes from File Explorer, notifications from many apps, and so on (technical: this is UIA notification event).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] microsoft edge saying loading compleat

I don't know if their is a way to do this. Narrator does the same thing.

On 7/30/2020 11:24 AM, Bobby Vinton wrote:
Hay I am using the new Microsoft edge and I was wondering if you could
stop nvda from saying loading compleat every time you open or going to
a nother web page? Just let me know




Re: for Joseph Lee

 

Hi,

According to another thread, he tried. I bet it is something that will require eventual remote assistance. I won’t be able to provide such a service until mid-August at the earliest.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 10:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] for Joseph Lee

 

Have you tried the obvious fix by running the com registration fixing tool that comes with NVDA?

 

 

 

 

 

From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: 30 July 2020 17:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] for Joseph Lee

 

ever since getting my new HP Pavillian I have not been able to use NVDA on a web page.It says google legacy in chrome and nothing at all on any other browser. if I tab it says unknown.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:51 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] for Joseph Lee

 

Robert. What seems to be the problem?

On 7/30/2020 5:18 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Joseph Lee says, as much as he wishes to help, he won’t be able to do so until mid-August.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 1:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] for Joseph Lee

 

This concerns my new HP pc not liking NVDA. Does your busy schedule allow you time to remote to this pc to get an idea of where the problem lies?

 

******Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !

 

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Re: for Joseph Lee

Chris
 

Have you tried the obvious fix by running the com registration fixing tool that comes with NVDA?

 

 

 

 

 

From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: 30 July 2020 17:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] for Joseph Lee

 

ever since getting my new HP Pavillian I have not been able to use NVDA on a web page.It says google legacy in chrome and nothing at all on any other browser. if I tab it says unknown.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:51 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] for Joseph Lee

 

Robert. What seems to be the problem?

On 7/30/2020 5:18 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Joseph Lee says, as much as he wishes to help, he won’t be able to do so until mid-August.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 1:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] for Joseph Lee

 

This concerns my new HP pc not liking NVDA. Does your busy schedule allow you time to remote to this pc to get an idea of where the problem lies?

 

******Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !

 

Family times where there is fun for every ear!
http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3

 


Re: for Joseph Lee

Lino Morales
 

And I'm assuming your running latest build of Google Chrome, Edge, and FF?

On 7/30/2020 12:49 PM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:
ever since getting my new HP Pavillian I have not been able to use NVDA on a web page.It says google legacy in chrome and nothing at all on any other browser. if I tab it says unknown.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] for Joseph Lee

Robert. What seems to be the problem?

On 7/30/2020 5:18 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Joseph Lee says, as much as he wishes to help, he won’t be able to do so until mid-August.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 1:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] for Joseph Lee

 

This concerns my new HP pc not liking NVDA. Does your busy schedule allow you time to remote to this pc to get an idea of where the problem lies?

 

******Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !

 

Family times where there is fun for every ear!
http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3


Re: microsoft edge saying loading compleat

Lino Morales
 

I don't know if their is a way to do this. Narrator does the same thing.

On 7/30/2020 11:24 AM, Bobby Vinton wrote:
Hay I am using the new Microsoft edge and I was wondering if you could stop nvda from saying loading compleat every time you open or going to a nother web page?  Just let me know



Re: for Joseph Lee

Jackie
 

Yeah, Robert--I hate to say this, but HP is known for its massive
amount of bloatware. When my dad got his, I removed it all. & I've
done likewise on other clients as well. Having thus said, though, did
you try Tyler's solution?

On 7/30/20, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:
ever since getting my new HP Pavillian I have not been able to use NVDA on a
web page.It says google legacy in chrome and nothing at all on any other
browser. if I tab it says unknown.
----- Original Message -----
From: Lino Morales
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] for Joseph Lee


Robert. What seems to be the problem?


On 7/30/2020 5:18 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:



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Re: for Joseph Lee

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

ever since getting my new HP Pavillian I have not been able to use NVDA on a web page.It says google legacy in chrome and nothing at all on any other browser. if I tab it says unknown.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] for Joseph Lee

Robert. What seems to be the problem?

On 7/30/2020 5:18 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Joseph Lee says, as much as he wishes to help, he won’t be able to do so until mid-August.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 1:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] for Joseph Lee

 

This concerns my new HP pc not liking NVDA. Does your busy schedule allow you time to remote to this pc to get an idea of where the problem lies?

 

******Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !

 

Family times where there is fun for every ear!
http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3


Re: nvda and browse verses focus mode and submenus: navigation of discord's submenus

Sarah k Alawami
 

Let me try that. I actually did not know that was there. I guess both I and the sighted dev learned somethingn new today lol!

Ok, in doing this, the thign won't route correctly now. I went ton my own server and the curser stays at the top

So it looks like I have to toggle this on, but toggle it off. I don't like that, but it works.

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On 30 Jul 2020, at 9:19, Tony Malykh wrote:

You might want to try "Automatically set system focus to focusable elements off" mode - NVDA+NumRow 8 -it might help prevent autoexpanding menus.

--Tony

On 7/30/2020 8:11 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Sorry about the long ish subject line. I've having a problem with discord where the menus are auto expanding. I'm using the canary version of discord but no one else either seems not to have this issue or this is a bug in nvda 20.x. I'm going to send a video of what happens, but even though the voice is fast it should still be ok.

Basically this is happening:

  1. The submenus are auto expanding.
  2. Left and right arrow are spelling the submenus out

Is there a setting in browse mode that would cause this? I've never seen this before in any app but discord and the stuff member I'm in contact with can't reproduce this on his copy of nvda 2020.
here is the video clip

Again do I have a setting wrong in browse mode? Do the discord people need to code something differently? I think I've stumped the dev I'm in talks with. I don't have any stuck keys as this also happens on my shadow.

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Re: microsoft edge saying loading compleat

Roger Stewart
 

If this could be done, I hope it is a toggle as I like to know when the page is completely loaded.
Roger

On 7/30/2020 10:24 AM, Bobby Vinton wrote:
Hay I am using the new Microsoft edge and I was wondering if you could stop nvda from saying loading compleat every time you open or going to a nother web page?  Just let me know



Re: nvda and browse verses focus mode and submenus: navigation of discord's submenus

Tony Malykh
 

You might want to try "Automatically set system focus to focusable elements off" mode - NVDA+NumRow 8 -it might help prevent autoexpanding menus.

--Tony

On 7/30/2020 8:11 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Sorry about the long ish subject line. I've having a problem with discord where the menus are auto expanding. I'm using the canary version of discord but no one else either seems not to have this issue or this is a bug in nvda 20.x. I'm going to send a video of what happens, but even though the voice is fast it should still be ok.

Basically this is happening:

  1. The submenus are auto expanding.
  2. Left and right arrow are spelling the submenus out

Is there a setting in browse mode that would cause this? I've never seen this before in any app but discord and the stuff member I'm in contact with can't reproduce this on his copy of nvda 2020.
here is the video clip

Again do I have a setting wrong in browse mode? Do the discord people need to code something differently? I think I've stumped the dev I'm in talks with. I don't have any stuck keys as this also happens on my shadow.

--

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Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here


Re: for Joseph Lee

Lino Morales
 

Robert. What seems to be the problem?

On 7/30/2020 5:18 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Joseph Lee says, as much as he wishes to help, he won’t be able to do so until mid-August.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 1:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] for Joseph Lee

 

This concerns my new HP pc not liking NVDA. Does your busy schedule allow you time to remote to this pc to get an idea of where the problem lies?

 

******Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !

 

Family times where there is fun for every ear!
http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3


Re: I am needing assistance updating to the latest version of NVDA

 

And to add to Mr. Goldfield's advice, if you have an issue running the full installer for NVDA 2020.2, then manually uninstall whatever NVDA you currently have installed via Control Panel, Programs and Features, then trying to install the latest again.  But don't do that first, as an install-over install generally works just fine.
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Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: Tutorials for sighted users.

 

Not that I'm aware of.  But I can give some useful input.

Make certain that they have the latest version of NVDA and that they have gone into NVDA settings, Vision, and turned Focus Highlight, with all its options, on.  This is the easiest way for a sighted person not only to know what has focus, but what state NVDA is in on the object with focus.  If they need to, they should print out a brief cheat sheet as to what the outline colors and styles tell them about NVDA state at that moment.

I'm not quite sure which aspect of keyboard navigation you're trying to get someone to "get the hang of," but if it's quick navigation in web browsing the easiest way I've found to do that is to make the tester aware that the capability exists and give them the section from the documentation with those single key commands, and, if possible, walk them through using the most common ones on a web page or two that's fairly typical.  Things like Google Search results, using the H shortcut to move from returned item to returned item, rather than L (which will involve other links not of interest), is a good way to give a brief introduction and to show how those two differ from one another in practice.

Speaking strictly from my own experience in learning screen readers, period, the only way is to play with them and, if possible, with a bit of initial guidance (which I really didn't have) from someone who actually uses one to get across the basics of what one does day to day, and how.  It need not be a long intro, but brute force TABbing around tends to be the navigation of choice only because it's most easily stumbled upon (and it's grossly inefficient).  The web browsing single key navigation shortcuts are very easy to pick up on and use if you are made aware they are there, and someone shows you, when you need to do a "massive jump" from wherever you might be to a button, or checkbox, or whatever, that this can be achieved with much greater ease using those shortcuts than many, many hits of TAB.
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microsoft edge saying loading compleat

Bobby Vinton
 

Hay I am using the new Microsoft edge and I was wondering if you could stop nvda from saying loading compleat every time you open or going to a nother web page?  Just let me know