Re: Masked URLs in E-mail messages
Gene
I just tried this in Thunderbird. Moving the mouse to the link isn't necessary. Just moving to the link when reading the message as HTML or as simple HTML, a safer way to read mail in Thunderbird, causes the status line to show the underlying link. I don't know where it might be shown in Windows Live Mail. If it is acdcessible to the screen-reader, it appears to be inconvenient to get to and I didn't see it when I looked using screen review or moving using object navigation.
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Gene
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From: Brian Vogel Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 10:21 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Masked URLs in E-mail messages Jonathan, What e-mail client are you using. Generally, when one has focus on click-through text links the status bar at the bottom of the window frame will show the actual naked URL text. The problem being that it will likely be impossible to maintain focus on both things at once, which is one of the conundrums associated with using a screen reader. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally. ~ Oscar Wilde
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Re: NVDA reading names of selected files in a file list
Chris,
Thanks very much. The documentation still needs to be updated to reflect this since Add-Ons very often don't use the native shortcuts. The relatively new feature of having add-ons documentation available within NVDA itself makes it really important that all of them have something substantive that tells you about how to use them. Very often, that may be a line or two, maybe a couple of paragraphs, but having it there for reference is critical. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally. ~ Oscar Wilde
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Re: Masked URLs in E-mail messages
Gene
Does Outlook have a status line? Windows Live Mail doesn't and Thunderbird does. I'll play withit in Thunderbird and see what happens.
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Gene
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From: Brian Vogel Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 10:21 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Masked URLs in E-mail messages Jonathan, What e-mail client are you using. Generally, when one has focus on click-through text links the status bar at the bottom of the window frame will show the actual naked URL text. The problem being that it will likely be impossible to maintain focus on both things at once, which is one of the conundrums associated with using a screen reader. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally. ~ Oscar Wilde
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Re: whats new in NVDA 20.3 beta 1
Afik Souffir
Sent from my Iphone
On 18 Sep 2020, at 19:01, Chris via groups.io <chrismedley@...> wrote:
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Re: NVDA reading names of selected files in a file list
Rui Fontes
Exato!
Rui
Às 16:50 de 18/09/2020, Brian Vogel
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Rui,
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Re: Masked URLs in E-mail messages
Gene
It might be possible, but I don't know how difficult it would be. The way a sighted person would usually see the underlying link is to hover the mouse over it. You would need something to perform that function and then to announce the link by checking the part of the screen where it appears and I don't know if it always appears in the same part.
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Gene
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From: Jonathan Milam Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 10:03 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Masked URLs in E-mail messages That's correct, Gene. I was hoping that perhaps an add-on or keystroke might be available that, when the keystroke was pressed, the URL would appear in such a way as to allow the arrow keys to be used to validate its legitimacy and Escape would close the dialog. This would eliminate copying it to the clipboard, switching to a different window, pasting it and then reading it and then closing that window and returning to the message. Jonathan -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 10:29 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Masked URLs in E-mail messages Are you asking how to see the underlying address for something that might say, for example, click here as a link? If you are on the link and open the context menu, if your e-mail program has this feature, you will see something like copy shortcut or copy link location, the wording will vary. Press enter and the underlying link will be copied to the clipboard. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Milam Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 7:59 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Masked URLs in E-mail messages Hi All, Is it possible to quickly see a link in an e-mail message that has been linked within a specific string of text and not just pasted directly into an e-mail message with NVDA? Thanks, Jonathan
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Re: NVDA reading names of selected files in a file list
Chris Mullins
Hi Brian You use the standard NVDA command for “read status bar”, NVDA+End
Cheers Chris
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: 18 September 2020 16:50 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading names of selected files
Rui, Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally. ~ Oscar Wilde
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Re: whats new in NVDA 20.3 beta 1
Chris
Its where its always been under the nvda menu under help > what’s new
From: Afik Souffir
Sent: 18 September 2020 16:44 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] whats new in NVDA 20.3 beta 1
Hi all,
The subject says all.
I didn't find any whats new document for this Beta.
Afik.
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Re: NVDA reading names of selected files in a file list
Rui,
Now the question is, "How does one use the add-on?" I've got it installed, and I've gone to the NVDA Help Menu, Running Add-Ons Documentation, Add Status Bar Reading and the only thing that's displayed in the browser for help is, "Addon ZExplorer, Allows the correct obtaining of the status bar content." It would be useful to have this documentation give the keystroke or keystrokes and change the title from "Addon ZExplorer" to "Add Status Bar Reading" so that it matches what shows up in the menu structure. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally. ~ Oscar Wilde
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whats new in NVDA 20.3 beta 1
Afik Souffir
Hi all,
The subject says all.
I didn't find any whats new document for this Beta.
Afik.
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Re: NVDA reading names of selected files in a file list
Rui Fontes
Yes, it is a manifest.ini problem with some final versions of NVDA... Without any change in the manifest.ini was working alright in the last Alpha...
Rui Fontes
Às 16:27 de 18/09/2020, Brian Vogel
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Rui,
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Re: NVDA reading names of selected files in a file list
Rui,
FYI, that version of the Add-On is allowing it to be installed. The original would not install for me, either. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally. ~ Oscar Wilde
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Re: Navigating to a specific link when there are many on a webpage
On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 10:02 AM, Andy Jobben wrote:
I cant use the V because i sometimes use the other as well.- Unless you are actually visiting many links on this page, even doing a brute force traversal only of the links you've visited is faster than tabbing. If you've only visited a few links on the page, and generally only visit a few, using a couple of hits of the V visited link command can be even faster than using screen reader find for pages you revisit on a frequent basis. But for any page that you're new to, or newish to, using either regular browser find, screen reader find, or both is far more efficient. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally. ~ Oscar Wilde
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Re: Masked URLs in E-mail messages
Jonathan,
What e-mail client are you using. Generally, when one has focus on click-through text links the status bar at the bottom of the window frame will show the actual naked URL text. The problem being that it will likely be impossible to maintain focus on both things at once, which is one of the conundrums associated with using a screen reader. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally. ~ Oscar Wilde
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Re: Masked URLs in E-mail messages
Jonathan Milam
That's correct, Gene. I was hoping that perhaps an add-on or keystroke
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might be available that, when the keystroke was pressed, the URL would appear in such a way as to allow the arrow keys to be used to validate its legitimacy and Escape would close the dialog. This would eliminate copying it to the clipboard, switching to a different window, pasting it and then reading it and then closing that window and returning to the message. Jonathan
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 10:29 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Masked URLs in E-mail messages Are you asking how to see the underlying address for something that might say, for example, click here as a link? If you are on the link and open the context menu, if your e-mail program has this feature, you will see something like copy shortcut or copy link location, the wording will vary. Press enter and the underlying link will be copied to the clipboard. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Milam Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 7:59 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Masked URLs in E-mail messages Hi All, Is it possible to quickly see a link in an e-mail message that has been linked within a specific string of text and not just pasted directly into an e-mail message with NVDA? Thanks, Jonathan
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Re: Masked URLs in E-mail messages
Gene
Are you asking how to see the underlying address for something that might say, for example, click here as a link? If you are on the link and open the context menu, if your e-mail program has this feature, you will see something like copy shortcut or copy link location, the wording will vary. Press enter and the underlying link will be copied to the clipboard.
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Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Milam Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 7:59 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Masked URLs in E-mail messages Hi All, Is it possible to quickly see a link in an e-mail message that has been linked within a specific string of text and not just pasted directly into an e-mail message with NVDA? Thanks, Jonathan
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Re: Navigating to a specific link when there are many on a webpage
Andy Jobben
Thank you all for the anwers.
I cant use the V because i sometimes use the other aswell. but i will try using the search function like you have mentioned.
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Re: NVDA reading names of selected files in a file list
Rui Fontes
Very strange! Maybe some problem in manifest.ini...
Try this one: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1icqocjs6xztdh7/ZExplorer_1.0_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1
Rui Fontes NVDA portuguese team
Às 18:43 de 17/09/2020, Janet Brandly
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Masked URLs in E-mail messages
Jonathan Milam
Hi All,
Is it possible to quickly see a link in an e-mail message that has been linked within a specific string of text and not just pasted directly into an e-mail message with NVDA?
Jonathan
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Re: NVDA and security info
Afik Souffir
The customer service manager read about NVDA and said she thinks that’s ok. As far as I know, there IT department did a security check on the NVDA install file. But, they said they need to check my laptop and NVDA and decide if I'll work on my laptop or there computer.
Afik.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Shaun Everiss
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 12:00 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and secuirity info
Well, as far as I understand, if their it allows you to securely login to their system, all they need is install your display drivers, nvda and addons you need on the system and thats it in admin mode. If your laptop, they may just give you remote access but you will still need nvda installed on that system. That is assuming they don't then say nvda is not secure because it is opensource and then ask you to jaws.
On 18/09/2020 8:38 pm, Afik Souffir wrote:
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