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How to use eventHandler.requestEvents

falkogiepmans@...
 

Hi all,

Currently I am working on a appModule for SAP, this has its own API and internal events. I would like NVDA to be able to listen to some of those events. One of these events is "FocusChanged", since NVDA does not notice this in SAP. My idea was to use requestEvents as follows:

Example Code
class AppModule(appModuleHandler.AppModule):
    def __init__(self, *args, **kwargs):
        super().__init__(*args, **kwargs)
        eventHandler.requestEvents("FocusChanged", processId=self.processID,windowClassName='someWindow')
End Example Code

And use this event in some overlayclass:

Example Code
class SAPClass(IAccessible):
    def event_FocusChanged(self):
        ...do something...
End Example Code

This does not seem to work. Is this what eventHandler.requestEvents is meant for or am I understanding it wrong? I am quite new to events in general but I want to get my head around it.
Side question: Is this the place to post these kind of questions?

Thanks in advance,
Falko
 
 


Re: comment section in you tube is not displaying

Quentin Christensen
 

When I was exploring before, I tried in both Firefox and Chrome.  I did find a couple of times it hadn't yet loaded the comments, which was why I thought it was waiting until the focus actually was at the bottom to load them - Either way, it is very slow.  I think it's just that sluggishness rather than a browser issue, but that's just a guess.


On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 2:33 PM Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:
The old trick of pressing Control+End, then shift+2 (to go back to the previous
heading level 2), still works to find comments.

However, Youtube is taking longer than ever to show comments now--I just had
timings of 3 seconds on one video, and 15 or so on another, before the Shift+2
actually worked.

However--I might test this more--if you pause the video (by hitting K, or
NVDA+F2 then K), then do the Control+End, Shift+2, that may load the comments
quicker. It seemed to in one test I did.

I don't generally use Youtube by computer, so YMMV, but these were my results in
Firefox just now.



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Re: comment section in you tube is not displaying

Luke Davis
 

The old trick of pressing Control+End, then shift+2 (to go back to the previous heading level 2), still works to find comments.

However, Youtube is taking longer than ever to show comments now--I just had timings of 3 seconds on one video, and 15 or so on another, before the Shift+2 actually worked.

However--I might test this more--if you pause the video (by hitting K, or NVDA+F2 then K), then do the Control+End, Shift+2, that may load the comments quicker. It seemed to in one test I did.

I don't generally use Youtube by computer, so YMMV, but these were my results in Firefox just now.



--
Luke

"In this life there are obstacles, and forces who overcome obstacles. You can be either one or the other.
If you refuse to even try to clear an obstacle, you become the obstacle."
- Joel Shepherd


Re: Error in Firefox

Gene
 

Uninstalling office causes such a problem but in this case, the registry fixing tool couldn't solve it. Since the problem uninstalling Office causes is unregistered dll files, when you ran system restore, it may have corrected the problem by reverting the registry and now everything is registered. If the problem was something else caused by the uninstallation, System Restore corrected it. You said there was a missing dll file. System Restore would replace it if you ran a restore point from before it was missing.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Casey Mathews
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 10:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Error in Firefox



Well, System Restore worked.

I sure wish I knew what caused the problem in the first place?

Thanks for all of the suggestions.





Casey Mathews

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From: Casey Mathews
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 9:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Error in Firefox





I tried reinstalling firefox. I also tried running a temp copy of NVDA. I also reinstalled NVDA.

None worked.

I tried with Narrator and that will not even let me browse, so I think this must be some kind of system file issue.

I ran file check and dism no errors.

I’m trying windows restore.





Casey Mathews

WebFriendlyHelp.com: Makin’ your tech life easy!







From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 9:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Error in Firefox





Hi



Which did you try re installing the copy of nvda or the browser?



So the resetting of the browser did not work?



Did you try the portable copy of nvda to see if it works correctly with the browser some times it is better to grab a new copy of nvda then try it as a temp copy to see if you get the same results. If it works correctly in the browser, then I would do a reset of nvda. But when you do that make sure that you turn it off then back on and get the message you get when you first install nvda.



There is a setting in the nvda menu that will set it back to factory defaults.



Gene nz







On 14/04/2021 2:50 pm, Casey Mathews wrote:



Thanks, that didn’t work.

I even tried reinstalling it. I also tried the com fixing tool, restarted and tried again. Nothing.





Casey Mathews

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From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 7:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Error in Firefox





Hi



I have not had to do this for a while as when you have troubles with the browser and this sounds like the same I had a few years back but resetting the browser fixed the problem in those cases. This was both in fire fox and recently in google browser it would speak stuff only if I tabbed but no browse mode etc and in the case of fire fox you could not interact with the browser apart from the menus.



the following page if you do go down this track can be fund at https://malwaretips.com/blogs/reset-firefox-settings/

try some of the other steps from other people and also try another copy of nvda if you have it on a portable to see if the same problem happens and if it does I am guessing the browser is the problem but if it works well with the portable on fire fox then have to look closer at nvda.



As suggested also use the comm tool in nvda and see if that fixes the problem. it is all ways after doing that shut down the pc completely not sleep mode then start up the pc.



if it was saying that in all the browsers and also down on the running application area there might be another way but it sounds like it is not this other problem.



Gene nz





On 14/04/2021 12:36 pm, Casey Mathews wrote:



Whenever I open Firefox I hear NVDA say Unknown.

At this point I’m unable to tab or do anything in the browser other than get into menus.

This only happens in Firefox. Chrome and Edge work fine.

I’m running NVDA 2020.4 and Windows 10 21H1 (64-bit) build 19043.899

An NVDA error log is below, but not sure what to make of it as I’m not a developer.



displayText: exception: cannot unpack non-iterable NoneType object

IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x73947c8 at a584cb0>

IAccessibleChildID: -16777238

IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=919304, objectID=-4, childID=-16777238

IAccessible accName: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accRole: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accState: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accDescription: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accValue: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))





Casey Mathews


Re: Error in Firefox

Jackie
 

Casey, this sometimes happens when the default user profile gets corrupted.

On 4/13/21, Casey Mathews <csm120@outlook.com> wrote:
Well, System Restore worked.
I sure wish I knew what caused the problem in the first place?
Thanks for all of the suggestions.


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From: Casey Mathews<mailto:csm120@outlook.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 9:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Error in Firefox

I tried reinstalling firefox. I also tried running a temp copy of NVDA. I
also reinstalled NVDA.
None worked.
I tried with Narrator and that will not even let me browse, so I think this
must be some kind of system file issue.
I ran file check and dism no errors.
I’m trying windows restore.


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Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 9:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Error in Firefox


Hi



Which did you try re installing the copy of nvda or the browser?



So the resetting of the browser did not work?



Did you try the portable copy of nvda to see if it works correctly with the
browser some times it is better to grab a new copy of nvda then try it as a
temp copy to see if you get the same results. If it works correctly in the
browser, then I would do a reset of nvda. But when you do that make sure
that you turn it off then back on and get the message you get when you first
install nvda.



There is a setting in the nvda menu that will set it back to factory
defaults.



Gene nz




On 14/04/2021 2:50 pm, Casey Mathews wrote:
Thanks, that didn’t work.
I even tried reinstalling it. I also tried the com fixing tool, restarted
and tried again. Nothing.


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To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Error in Firefox


Hi



I have not had to do this for a while as when you have troubles with the
browser and this sounds like the same I had a few years back but resetting
the browser fixed the problem in those cases. This was both in fire fox and
recently in google browser it would speak stuff only if I tabbed but no
browse mode etc and in the case of fire fox you could not interact with the
browser apart from the menus.



the following page if you do go down this track can be fund at
https://malwaretips.com/blogs/reset-firefox-settings/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmalwaretips.com%2Fblogs%2Freset-firefox-settings%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cb79b24c18e744d19f5d608d8fef55df2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637539677077679085%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=I9h5Usmbj%2F94CCeIlo4JLkzvOgavSghTGJfpqfpf4mI%3D&reserved=0>

try some of the other steps from other people and also try another copy of
nvda if you have it on a portable to see if the same problem happens and if
it does I am guessing the browser is the problem but if it works well with
the portable on fire fox then have to look closer at nvda.



As suggested also use the comm tool in nvda and see if that fixes the
problem. it is all ways after doing that shut down the pc completely not
sleep mode then start up the pc.



if it was saying that in all the browsers and also down on the running
application area there might be another way but it sounds like it is not
this other problem.



Gene nz


On 14/04/2021 12:36 pm, Casey Mathews wrote:
Whenever I open Firefox I hear NVDA say Unknown.
At this point I’m unable to tab or do anything in the browser other than get
into menus.
This only happens in Firefox. Chrome and Edge work fine.
I’m running NVDA 2020.4 and Windows 10 21H1 (64-bit) build 19043.899
An NVDA error log is below, but not sure what to make of it as I’m not a
developer.

displayText: exception: cannot unpack non-iterable NoneType object
IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x73947c8 at a584cb0>
IAccessibleChildID: -16777238
IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=919304, objectID=-4,
childID=-16777238
IAccessible accName: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.',
(None, None, None, 0, None))
IAccessible accRole: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.',
(None, None, None, 0, None))
IAccessible accState: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is
incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
IAccessible accDescription: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is
incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
IAccessible accValue: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is
incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))


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Re: Error in Firefox

 

Well, System Restore worked.

I sure wish I knew what caused the problem in the first place?

Thanks for all of the suggestions.

 

 

Casey Mathews

WebFriendlyHelp.com: Makin’ your tech life easy!

 

 

From: Casey Mathews
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 9:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Error in Firefox

 

I tried reinstalling firefox. I also tried running a temp copy of NVDA. I also reinstalled NVDA.

None worked.

I tried with Narrator and that will not even let me browse, so I think this must be some kind of system file issue.

I ran file check and dism no errors.

I’m trying windows restore.

 

 

Casey Mathews

WebFriendlyHelp.com: Makin’ your tech life easy!

 

 

From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 9:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Error in Firefox

 

Hi

 

Which did you try re installing the copy of nvda or the browser?

 

So the resetting of the browser did not work?

 

Did you try the portable copy of nvda to see if it works correctly with the browser some times it is better to grab a new copy of nvda  then try it as a temp copy to see if you get the same results. If it works correctly in the browser, then I would do a reset of nvda. But when you do that make sure that you turn it off then back on and get the message you get when you first install nvda.

 

There is a setting in the nvda menu that will set it back to factory defaults.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 14/04/2021 2:50 pm, Casey Mathews wrote:

Thanks, that didn’t work.

I even tried reinstalling it. I also tried the com fixing tool, restarted and tried again. Nothing.

 

 

Casey Mathews

WebFriendlyHelp.com: Makin’ your tech life easy!

 

 

From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 7:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Error in Firefox

 

Hi

 

I have not had to do this for a while as when you have troubles with the browser and this sounds like the same I had a few years back but resetting the browser fixed the problem in those cases. This was both in fire fox and recently in google browser it would speak stuff only if I tabbed but no browse mode etc and in the case of fire fox you could not interact with the browser apart from the menus.

 

the following page if you do go down this track can be fund at https://malwaretips.com/blogs/reset-firefox-settings/

try some of the other steps from other people and also try another copy of nvda if you have it on a portable to see if the same problem happens and if it does I am guessing the browser is the problem but if it works well with the portable on fire fox then have to look closer at nvda.

 

As suggested also use the comm tool in nvda and see if that fixes the problem. it is all ways after doing that shut down the pc completely not sleep mode then start up the pc.

 

if it was saying that in all the browsers and also down on the running application area there might be another way but it sounds like it is not this other problem.

 

Gene nz

 

On 14/04/2021 12:36 pm, Casey Mathews wrote:

Whenever I open Firefox I hear NVDA say Unknown.

At this point I’m unable to tab or do anything in the browser other than get into menus.

This only happens in Firefox. Chrome and Edge work fine.

I’m running NVDA 2020.4 and Windows 10 21H1 (64-bit) build 19043.899

An NVDA error log is below, but not sure what to make of it as I’m not a developer.

 

displayText: exception: cannot unpack non-iterable NoneType object

IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x73947c8 at a584cb0>

IAccessibleChildID: -16777238

IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=919304, objectID=-4, childID=-16777238

IAccessible accName: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accRole: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accState: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accDescription: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accValue: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

 

 

Casey Mathews

 

 

 


Re: Error in Firefox

Gene
 

Do you mean system restore?


Gene

On 4/13/2021 10:28 PM, Casey Mathews wrote:

I tried reinstalling firefox. I also tried running a temp copy of NVDA. I also reinstalled NVDA.

None worked.

I tried with Narrator and that will not even let me browse, so I think this must be some kind of system file issue.

I ran file check and dism no errors.

I’m trying windows restore.

 

 

Casey Mathews

WebFriendlyHelp.com: Makin’ your tech life easy!

 

 

From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 9:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Error in Firefox

 

Hi

 

Which did you try re installing the copy of nvda or the browser?

 

So the resetting of the browser did not work?

 

Did you try the portable copy of nvda to see if it works correctly with the browser some times it is better to grab a new copy of nvda  then try it as a temp copy to see if you get the same results. If it works correctly in the browser, then I would do a reset of nvda. But when you do that make sure that you turn it off then back on and get the message you get when you first install nvda.

 

There is a setting in the nvda menu that will set it back to factory defaults.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 14/04/2021 2:50 pm, Casey Mathews wrote:

Thanks, that didn’t work.

I even tried reinstalling it. I also tried the com fixing tool, restarted and tried again. Nothing.

 

 

Casey Mathews

WebFriendlyHelp.com: Makin’ your tech life easy!

 

 

From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 7:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Error in Firefox

 

Hi

 

I have not had to do this for a while as when you have troubles with the browser and this sounds like the same I had a few years back but resetting the browser fixed the problem in those cases. This was both in fire fox and recently in google browser it would speak stuff only if I tabbed but no browse mode etc and in the case of fire fox you could not interact with the browser apart from the menus.

 

the following page if you do go down this track can be fund at https://malwaretips.com/blogs/reset-firefox-settings/

try some of the other steps from other people and also try another copy of nvda if you have it on a portable to see if the same problem happens and if it does I am guessing the browser is the problem but if it works well with the portable on fire fox then have to look closer at nvda.

 

As suggested also use the comm tool in nvda and see if that fixes the problem. it is all ways after doing that shut down the pc completely not sleep mode then start up the pc.

 

if it was saying that in all the browsers and also down on the running application area there might be another way but it sounds like it is not this other problem.

 

Gene nz

 

On 14/04/2021 12:36 pm, Casey Mathews wrote:

Whenever I open Firefox I hear NVDA say Unknown.

At this point I’m unable to tab or do anything in the browser other than get into menus.

This only happens in Firefox. Chrome and Edge work fine.

I’m running NVDA 2020.4 and Windows 10 21H1 (64-bit) build 19043.899

An NVDA error log is below, but not sure what to make of it as I’m not a developer.

 

displayText: exception: cannot unpack non-iterable NoneType object

IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x73947c8 at a584cb0>

IAccessibleChildID: -16777238

IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=919304, objectID=-4, childID=-16777238

IAccessible accName: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accRole: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accState: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accDescription: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accValue: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

 

 

Casey Mathews

 

 


Re: comment section in you tube is not displaying

Gene
 

I suspect there is something wrong with Youtube. On another list there is discussion that comments canbe be seen with Edge but not with one or two other browsers.

Also, because the person asking the question has been seeing them before and something must have changed.

I tried looking for comments on a page and I didn't find them even though I skimmed down the page to allow it to change.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 9:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] comment section in you tube is not displaying


Although there is something which acts like an edit field to "add a public comment", it's done in such a way that it isn't actually a traditional edit field, so you can't find it by navigating by edit field or even form field. The best way I've found to get to it is:

1. Press NVDA+control+f to open NVDA's find function.
2. Type the word "comments" (without quotes)
3. Press ENTER to move to the first instance of the word.
4. Press TAB twice to move past "Sort by" and onto the edit field.

I have found that sometimes everything hasn't loaded and it can't find comments. In this case, escape the error dialog, press CONTROL+END to jump to the bottom of the page, then up arrow and it's usually actually at the comments - YouTube seems to load the video and then related / suggested videos, then after that the comments, and sometimes it doesn't load the comments until you actually scroll down to the bottom of the page to get to them.

Kind regards

Quentin.


On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 12:10 PM Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@gmail.com> wrote:
Not sure if this problem occurs with the NVDA but I will give a shot to
discuss here.

Does anyone could noticed in the youtube website the comment section is
not displaying. Well, this is the second time I noticed this and
observing and tried to shift to different browser but no luck.











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Re: Error in Firefox

 

I tried reinstalling firefox. I also tried running a temp copy of NVDA. I also reinstalled NVDA.

None worked.

I tried with Narrator and that will not even let me browse, so I think this must be some kind of system file issue.

I ran file check and dism no errors.

I’m trying windows restore.

 

 

Casey Mathews

WebFriendlyHelp.com: Makin’ your tech life easy!

 

 

From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 9:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Error in Firefox

 

Hi

 

Which did you try re installing the copy of nvda or the browser?

 

So the resetting of the browser did not work?

 

Did you try the portable copy of nvda to see if it works correctly with the browser some times it is better to grab a new copy of nvda  then try it as a temp copy to see if you get the same results. If it works correctly in the browser, then I would do a reset of nvda. But when you do that make sure that you turn it off then back on and get the message you get when you first install nvda.

 

There is a setting in the nvda menu that will set it back to factory defaults.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 14/04/2021 2:50 pm, Casey Mathews wrote:

Thanks, that didn’t work.

I even tried reinstalling it. I also tried the com fixing tool, restarted and tried again. Nothing.

 

 

Casey Mathews

WebFriendlyHelp.com: Makin’ your tech life easy!

 

 

From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 7:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Error in Firefox

 

Hi

 

I have not had to do this for a while as when you have troubles with the browser and this sounds like the same I had a few years back but resetting the browser fixed the problem in those cases. This was both in fire fox and recently in google browser it would speak stuff only if I tabbed but no browse mode etc and in the case of fire fox you could not interact with the browser apart from the menus.

 

the following page if you do go down this track can be fund at https://malwaretips.com/blogs/reset-firefox-settings/

try some of the other steps from other people and also try another copy of nvda if you have it on a portable to see if the same problem happens and if it does I am guessing the browser is the problem but if it works well with the portable on fire fox then have to look closer at nvda.

 

As suggested also use the comm tool in nvda and see if that fixes the problem. it is all ways after doing that shut down the pc completely not sleep mode then start up the pc.

 

if it was saying that in all the browsers and also down on the running application area there might be another way but it sounds like it is not this other problem.

 

Gene nz

 

On 14/04/2021 12:36 pm, Casey Mathews wrote:

Whenever I open Firefox I hear NVDA say Unknown.

At this point I’m unable to tab or do anything in the browser other than get into menus.

This only happens in Firefox. Chrome and Edge work fine.

I’m running NVDA 2020.4 and Windows 10 21H1 (64-bit) build 19043.899

An NVDA error log is below, but not sure what to make of it as I’m not a developer.

 

displayText: exception: cannot unpack non-iterable NoneType object

IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x73947c8 at a584cb0>

IAccessibleChildID: -16777238

IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=919304, objectID=-4, childID=-16777238

IAccessible accName: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accRole: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accState: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accDescription: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accValue: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

 

 

Casey Mathews

 

 


Re: Error in Firefox

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Which did you try re installing the copy of nvda or the browser?


So the resetting of the browser did not work?


Did you try the portable copy of nvda to see if it works correctly with the browser some times it is better to grab a new copy of nvda  then try it as a temp copy to see if you get the same results. If it works correctly in the browser, then I would do a reset of nvda. But when you do that make sure that you turn it off then back on and get the message you get when you first install nvda.


There is a setting in the nvda menu that will set it back to factory defaults.


Gene nz



On 14/04/2021 2:50 pm, Casey Mathews wrote:

Thanks, that didn’t work.

I even tried reinstalling it. I also tried the com fixing tool, restarted and tried again. Nothing.

 

 

Casey Mathews

WebFriendlyHelp.com: Makin’ your tech life easy!

 

 

From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 7:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Error in Firefox

 

Hi

 

I have not had to do this for a while as when you have troubles with the browser and this sounds like the same I had a few years back but resetting the browser fixed the problem in those cases. This was both in fire fox and recently in google browser it would speak stuff only if I tabbed but no browse mode etc and in the case of fire fox you could not interact with the browser apart from the menus.

 

the following page if you do go down this track can be fund at https://malwaretips.com/blogs/reset-firefox-settings/

try some of the other steps from other people and also try another copy of nvda if you have it on a portable to see if the same problem happens and if it does I am guessing the browser is the problem but if it works well with the portable on fire fox then have to look closer at nvda.

 

As suggested also use the comm tool in nvda and see if that fixes the problem. it is all ways after doing that shut down the pc completely not sleep mode then start up the pc.

 

if it was saying that in all the browsers and also down on the running application area there might be another way but it sounds like it is not this other problem.

 

Gene nz

 

On 14/04/2021 12:36 pm, Casey Mathews wrote:

Whenever I open Firefox I hear NVDA say Unknown.

At this point I’m unable to tab or do anything in the browser other than get into menus.

This only happens in Firefox. Chrome and Edge work fine.

I’m running NVDA 2020.4 and Windows 10 21H1 (64-bit) build 19043.899

An NVDA error log is below, but not sure what to make of it as I’m not a developer.

 

displayText: exception: cannot unpack non-iterable NoneType object

IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x73947c8 at a584cb0>

IAccessibleChildID: -16777238

IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=919304, objectID=-4, childID=-16777238

IAccessible accName: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accRole: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accState: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accDescription: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accValue: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

 

 

Casey Mathews

 


Re: Error in Firefox

 

Thanks, that didn’t work.

I even tried reinstalling it. I also tried the com fixing tool, restarted and tried again. Nothing.

 

 

Casey Mathews

WebFriendlyHelp.com: Makin’ your tech life easy!

 

 

From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 7:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Error in Firefox

 

Hi

 

I have not had to do this for a while as when you have troubles with the browser and this sounds like the same I had a few years back but resetting the browser fixed the problem in those cases. This was both in fire fox and recently in google browser it would speak stuff only if I tabbed but no browse mode etc and in the case of fire fox you could not interact with the browser apart from the menus.

 

the following page if you do go down this track can be fund at https://malwaretips.com/blogs/reset-firefox-settings/

try some of the other steps from other people and also try another copy of nvda if you have it on a portable to see if the same problem happens and if it does I am guessing the browser is the problem but if it works well with the portable on fire fox then have to look closer at nvda.

 

As suggested also use the comm tool in nvda and see if that fixes the problem. it is all ways after doing that shut down the pc completely not sleep mode then start up the pc.

 

if it was saying that in all the browsers and also down on the running application area there might be another way but it sounds like it is not this other problem.

 

Gene nz

 

On 14/04/2021 12:36 pm, Casey Mathews wrote:

Whenever I open Firefox I hear NVDA say Unknown.

At this point I’m unable to tab or do anything in the browser other than get into menus.

This only happens in Firefox. Chrome and Edge work fine.

I’m running NVDA 2020.4 and Windows 10 21H1 (64-bit) build 19043.899

An NVDA error log is below, but not sure what to make of it as I’m not a developer.

 

displayText: exception: cannot unpack non-iterable NoneType object

IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x73947c8 at a584cb0>

IAccessibleChildID: -16777238

IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=919304, objectID=-4, childID=-16777238

IAccessible accName: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accRole: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accState: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accDescription: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accValue: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

 

 

Casey Mathews

 


locked Re: New NVDA user who's looking for Eloquence

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Maria,

Everyone has pretty much answered your question - actually although Code Factory was mentioned, the link wasn't given, you can find the page here: https://codefactoryglobal.com/app-store/voices-for-nvda/

The other thing I was going to add was if you are a new NVDA user and have come to us from Jaws - firstly welcome! - and secondly, you might find the guide to switching from Jaws to NVDA helpful: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA

Otherwise, if you encounter any other questions or issues in getting setup and running with NVDA, please do let us know.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 6:27 AM Maria Reyes <sassyblindgirl@...> wrote:

Hi I got a new computer and just installed NVDA! How do I get Eloquence?



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: comment section in you tube is not displaying

Quentin Christensen
 

Although there is something which acts like an edit field to "add a public comment", it's done in such a way that it isn't actually a traditional edit field, so you can't find it by navigating by edit field or even form field.  The best way I've found to get to it is:

1. Press NVDA+control+f to open NVDA's find function.
2. Type the word "comments" (without quotes)
3. Press ENTER to move to the first instance of the word.
4. Press TAB twice to move past "Sort by" and onto the edit field.

I have found that sometimes everything hasn't loaded and it can't find comments.  In this case, escape the error dialog, press CONTROL+END to jump to the bottom of the page, then up arrow and it's usually actually at the comments - YouTube seems to load the video and then related / suggested videos, then after that the comments, and sometimes it doesn't load the comments until you actually scroll down to the bottom of the page to get to them.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 12:10 PM Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@...> wrote:
Not sure if this problem occurs with the NVDA but I will give a shot to
discuss here.

Does anyone could noticed in the youtube website the comment section is
not displaying. Well, this is the second time I noticed this and
observing and tried to shift to different browser but no luck.









--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


locked Re: New NVDA user who's looking for Eloquence

David Goldfield
 

The SAPI version of Eloquence allows you to use the voices with other screen readers or with other third-party programs which offer speech output supporting SAPI 5. The benefit to Code Factory’s NVDA addon is that, as someone else already indicated, you get the Vocalizer voices in the same package although it only works using NVDA since it is a specific addon for that screen reader. I read a comment from another list member in an earlier thread that the true lower quality Vocalizer voices aren’t included and this may be correct. This personally never bothered me as I prefer the higher-quality Vocalizer voices. Overall, the addon works well and is very responsive although I think that the built-in Espeak voices are going to be the most responsive voices with NVDA.

 

 

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019

Subscribe to the Tech-VI announcement list to receive emails regarding news and events in the blindness assistive technology field.

Email: tech-vi+subscribe@groups.io

 

www.DavidGoldfield.org

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 4:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New NVDA user who's looking for Eloquence

 

Easiest way is to go to atguys.com and buy either the sapi or addons for eloquence and vocaliser.

I would personally buy the sapi  and then forget about it but yeah thats basically it.

Install the launchers, activate them, then download your voices and go nuts.

 

 

On 14/04/2021 6:17 am, Maria Reyes wrote:

Hi I got a new computer and just installed NVDA! How do I get Eloquence?


Re: comment section in you tube is not displaying

Robert Mendoza
 

Here are the short finding when I am using Chrome and Firefox the comment section is not displaying.
But, when I shift to Edge it works well.

Also, like to add I don't either use extension on the mentioned browsers.

On 4/14/2021 10:10 AM, Robert Mendoza via groups.io wrote:
Not sure if this problem occurs with the NVDA but I will give a shot to discuss here.

Does anyone could noticed in the youtube website the comment section is not displaying. Well, this is the second time I noticed this and observing and tried to shift to different browser but no luck.






comment section in you tube is not displaying

Robert Mendoza
 

Not sure if this problem occurs with the NVDA but I will give a shot to discuss here.

Does anyone could noticed in the youtube website the comment section is not displaying. Well, this is the second time I noticed this and observing and tried to shift to different browser but no luck.


Re: Error in Firefox

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


I have not had to do this for a while as when you have troubles with the browser and this sounds like the same I had a few years back but resetting the browser fixed the problem in those cases. This was both in fire fox and recently in google browser it would speak stuff only if I tabbed but no browse mode etc and in the case of fire fox you could not interact with the browser apart from the menus.


the following page if you do go down this track can be fund at https://malwaretips.com/blogs/reset-firefox-settings/

try some of the other steps from other people and also try another copy of nvda if you have it on a portable to see if the same problem happens and if it does I am guessing the browser is the problem but if it works well with the portable on fire fox then have to look closer at nvda.


As suggested also use the comm tool in nvda and see if that fixes the problem. it is all ways after doing that shut down the pc completely not sleep mode then start up the pc.


if it was saying that in all the browsers and also down on the running application area there might be another way but it sounds like it is not this other problem.


Gene nz

 

On 14/04/2021 12:36 pm, Casey Mathews wrote:

Whenever I open Firefox I hear NVDA say Unknown.

At this point I’m unable to tab or do anything in the browser other than get into menus.

This only happens in Firefox. Chrome and Edge work fine.

I’m running NVDA 2020.4 and Windows 10 21H1 (64-bit) build 19043.899

An NVDA error log is below, but not sure what to make of it as I’m not a developer.

 

displayText: exception: cannot unpack non-iterable NoneType object

IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x73947c8 at a584cb0>

IAccessibleChildID: -16777238

IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=919304, objectID=-4, childID=-16777238

IAccessible accName: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accRole: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accState: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accDescription: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accValue: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

 

 

Casey Mathews


Re: Error in Firefox

Gene
 

At first, I though the problem was that the setting to not work with accessibility had been turned on. But my recollection is that if that is done, you won't even see the menus.

If you have sighted help available, they can check the setting to be sure and allow accessibility if it isn't now. But I doubt that is the problem.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Casey Mathews
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 7:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Error in Firefox



Whenever I open Firefox I hear NVDA say Unknown.

At this point I’m unable to tab or do anything in the browser other than get into menus.

This only happens in Firefox. Chrome and Edge work fine.

I’m running NVDA 2020.4 and Windows 10 21H1 (64-bit) build 19043.899

An NVDA error log is below, but not sure what to make of it as I’m not a developer.



displayText: exception: cannot unpack non-iterable NoneType object

IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x73947c8 at a584cb0>

IAccessibleChildID: -16777238

IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=919304, objectID=-4, childID=-16777238

IAccessible accName: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accRole: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accState: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accDescription: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accValue: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))





Casey Mathews


Re: Error in Firefox

Luke Davis
 

Solution number one when things are reading as "unknown", is to try running the COM Registration Fixing Tool in the NVDA Tools menu.
NVDA+n, t, r, enter, enter, deal with the UAC, enter.

If that doesn't work, reboot your machine, and run it again.

Luke

Casey Mathews wrote:

Whenever I open Firefox I hear NVDA say Unknown.
At this point I’m unable to tab or do anything in the browser other than get into menus.
This only happens in Firefox. Chrome and Edge work fine.


Error in Firefox

 

Whenever I open Firefox I hear NVDA say Unknown.

At this point I’m unable to tab or do anything in the browser other than get into menus.

This only happens in Firefox. Chrome and Edge work fine.

I’m running NVDA 2020.4 and Windows 10 21H1 (64-bit) build 19043.899

An NVDA error log is below, but not sure what to make of it as I’m not a developer.

 

displayText: exception: cannot unpack non-iterable NoneType object

IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x73947c8 at a584cb0>

IAccessibleChildID: -16777238

IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=919304, objectID=-4, childID=-16777238

IAccessible accName: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accRole: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accState: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accDescription: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accValue: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

 

 

Casey Mathews

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