I can answer your second question.

Pressing NVDA + dot, or numpad 2 if using desktop layout, reports the character of the current navigator object.Pressing the key combination 3 times will give you the ascii and hexidecimal value.

On 27/10/2020 7:55 pm, Pele West wrote:

Hi Everyone

I have two separate NVDA questions, so apologise for the less than

helpful subject line.

1. Is there a way of getting NVDA to redraw the screen, or rather to get

it to check the screen again? This was possible in Window-Eyes (which I

know I should not mention), but I am using it so people know what I am

trying to do.

2. Is there a way to get NVDA to display the value of the character

under the cursor? In days gone by they were ASCII values, but I suspect

they will be UTF8 now?

Thanks

Pele West

Hi Everyone

I have two separate NVDA questions, so apologise for the less than
helpful subject line.

1. Is there a way of getting NVDA to redraw the screen, or rather to get
it to check the screen again? This was possible in Window-Eyes (which I
know I should not mention), but I am using it so people know what I am
trying to do.

2. Is there a way to get NVDA to display the value of the character
under the cursor? In days gone by they were ASCII values, but I suspect
they will be UTF8 now?

Thanks

Pele West

Actually, the LION OCR Addon sometimes discussed on-list does a decent job when invoked in Zoom Screen Sharing.

Hello,

Yes, sharing the screen is rather easy. You can use the short cut alt + S to access the sharing options.

But in none of the conferencing systems I have seen a possibility to see the shared content from others with NVDA or any other screen reader. This windows remains inaccessible for us.

Best

Sylvie

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Envoyé : lundi 26 octobre 2020 19:13

À : nvda@nvda.groups.io

Objet : Re: [nvda] Zoom and Screen Sharing

The few times I’ve shared my screen on zoom it has been accessible. You choose to share your screen and then you can hit the tab key to choose from different options, including sharing your entire desktop or just a particular application. There’s also an option to share your computer audio along with the display if you want.

My advice would be to do a dry run with a sighted person so they could give you feedback on how everything shows up on their end. Good luck and let us know how it goes.

On Oct 25, 2020, at 3:29 PM, Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

HI.  Apologies for asking this particular question but I do need some help and advise if it could be managed.

For the next two months, I'll be conducting, fortnightly, the singing segment for my church's Kids worship service,  Sunday School, if you like.  The services will be conducted on the Zoom platform.  Have any any of you done presentations on Zoom?  Have you been successful in screen sharing, presenting your segments with Video or Power Point?  If so, I would like some help, advise and hints as to how to manage and handle Screen shares as a blind or visually impaired person, the dos and don'ts and what to avoid.  All input would be most valuable and appreciated as I will be embarking on this venture for the first time.  Thank you and cheers!

Hello,
Yes, sharing the screen is rather easy. You can use the short cut alt + S to access the sharing options.
But in none of the conferencing systems I have seen a possibility to see the shared content from others with NVDA or any other screen reader. This windows remains inaccessible for us.
Best
Sylvie
-----Message d'origine-----
De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Luke Robinett via groups.io
Envoyé : lundi 26 octobre 2020 19:13
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : Re: [nvda] Zoom and Screen Sharing

The few times I’ve shared my screen on zoom it has been accessible. You choose to share your screen and then you can hit the tab key to choose from different options, including sharing your entire desktop or just a particular application. There’s also an option to share your computer audio along with the display if you want.
My advice would be to do a dry run with a sighted person so they could give you feedback on how everything shows up on their end. Good luck and let us know how it goes.

On Oct 25, 2020, at 3:29 PM, Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

HI.  Apologies for asking this particular question but I do need some help and advise if it could be managed.


For the next two months, I'll be conducting, fortnightly, the singing segment for my church's Kids worship service,  Sunday School, if you like.  The services will be conducted on the Zoom platform.  Have any any of you done presentations on Zoom?  Have you been successful in screen sharing, presenting your segments with Video or Power Point?  If so, I would like some help, advise and hints as to how to manage and handle Screen shares as a blind or visually impaired person, the dos and don'ts and what to avoid.  All input would be most valuable and appreciated as I will be embarking on this venture for the first time.  Thank you and cheers!

On Oct 25, 2020, at 3:29 PM, Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@gmail.com> wrote:

HI. Apologies for asking this particular question but I do need some help and advise if it could be managed.


For the next two months, I'll be conducting, fortnightly, the singing segment for my church's Kids worship service, Sunday School, if you like. The services will be conducted on the Zoom platform. Have any any of you done presentations on Zoom? Have you been successful in screen sharing, presenting your segments with Video or Power Point? If so, I would like some help, advise and hints as to how to manage and handle Screen shares as a blind or visually impaired person, the dos and don'ts and what to avoid. All input would be most valuable and appreciated as I will be embarking on this venture for the first time. Thank you and cheers!

I appreciate the link to Alan’s tutorial but I know how to set the
Define Name Excel labels for rows and columns according to JAWS which
Alan refers to as option 1. That’s not the issue. My question is if I
set row and column headings with NVDA those headings are not
recognized with JAWS but the NVDA user guide says they should be.

Thanks, Gerry

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Brian
Vogel
*Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2020 7:59 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Excel Column and row headings not recognized by
JAWS

See Alan Lemly's tutorial on the Microsoft Office Accessibility
Discussion Group, in topic, */Reading row and column headers using
Excel defined titles tutorial/*
<https://groups.io/g/office-accessibility/message/511>

His message has downloadable examples and the whole tutorial itself,
from Dropbox.

--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

/It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white./

~ Kelley Boorn

Gerry,

            All I can tell you is that if you set this up, in Excel, it works in any screen reader, regardless of what screen reader you're using to work with Excel.  But the actual manipulation of row/column titles must occur in Excel so that it "goes with" no matter what screen reader the spreadsheet may be handed to.

            Read the tutorial.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

I appreciate the link to Alan’s tutorial but I know how to set the Define Name Excel labels for rows and columns according to JAWS which Alan refers to as option 1. That’s not the issue. My question is if I set row and column headings with NVDA those headings are not recognized with JAWS but the NVDA user guide says they should be.
Thanks, Gerry
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Brian Vogel
*Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2020 7:59 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Excel Column and row headings not recognized by JAWS
See Alan Lemly's tutorial on the Microsoft Office Accessibility Discussion Group, in topic, */Reading row and column headers using Excel defined titles tutorial/* <https://groups.io/g/office-accessibility/message/511>
His message has downloadable examples and the whole tutorial itself, from Dropbox.
--
Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041
/It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white./
~ Kelley Boorn

See Alan Lemly's tutorial on the Microsoft Office Accessibility Discussion Group, in topic, Reading row and column headers using Excel defined titles tutorial

His message has downloadable examples and the whole tutorial itself, from Dropbox.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

Screen reader specific ways of defining row/column headers are "local to" those specific screen readers.

This is why I always encourage people to set up row/column labels in Excel itself.  There was just an extensive discussion regarding this, and how to set up row/column labels in Excel itself that "go with" the spreadsheet, somewhere.  I need to do some searching to find it.  I know that Alan Lemly wrote the tutorial on this, but I can't recall the group and topic at this very moment.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 02:49 PM, Daniel Damacena wrote:

As far as I know, it's not able to execute OCR. It converts directly.

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The only way an image PDF, where the image contains text, gets converted to a text-base (or, more likely, image with separate text layer) PDF is via OCR.

I've loved the OCR function of Tracker Software's PDF XChange Viewer for years.  The software is free, and it supports a slew of other languages besides English.  Sadly, it's not accessible for its main function of reading/viewing PDF files, but the OCR process is accessible.  A couple of my clients who were graduate students found its capabilities as far as OCR goes extraordinary, as do I.  I know that OCR has improved radically over the course of the last several decades, but so far it's the most accurate I've found on some pretty crappy source image PDFs.

I need to look into whether there is a command line invocation for the OCR function that would allow output to be redirected conveniently for PDF XChange Viewer.  I never bothered to look into that.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 

The few times I’ve shared my screen on zoom it has been accessible. You choose to share your screen and then you can hit the tab key to choose from different options, including sharing your entire desktop or just a particular application. There’s also an option to share your computer audio along with the display if you want.
My advice would be to do a dry run with a sighted person so they could give you feedback on how everything shows up on their end. Good luck and let us know how it goes.

On Oct 25, 2020, at 3:29 PM, Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@gmail.com> wrote:

HI. Apologies for asking this particular question but I do need some help and advise if it could be managed.


For the next two months, I'll be conducting, fortnightly, the singing segment for my church's Kids worship service, Sunday School, if you like. The services will be conducted on the Zoom platform. Have any any of you done presentations on Zoom? Have you been successful in screen sharing, presenting your segments with Video or Power Point? If so, I would like some help, advise and hints as to how to manage and handle Screen shares as a blind or visually impaired person, the dos and don'ts and what to avoid. All input would be most valuable and appreciated as I will be embarking on this venture for the first time. Thank you and cheers!