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Re: Best settings to use Windows10's Mail app with latest NVDA?

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I'm using outlook 20113.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Earle Zwicker
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 1:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Best settings to use Windows10's Mail app with latest NVDA?

 

I use Thunderbird.  I find that it is much better than the Windows mail app.  It all comes down to personal preference.

 

Earle

On 2018-10-24 4:10 p.m., Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

I agree. I tried the mail app and didn't really care for it.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 5:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Best settings to use Windows10's Mail app with latest NVDA?

 

All that trouble when you can use Windows Live Mail or Thunderbird?  Why do people use the Microsoft Mail app when there are such superior alternatives?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 1:44 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Best settings to use Windows10's Mail app with latest NVDA?

 

That is a really cock eyed way to do such things. I really do not understand
why Microsoft did not actually develop something like Outlook Express
instead of attempting to create a wheel with square corners. Its another
thing like Skype and ribbon menus where they know best, or rather think they
do!
Change for its own sake seems a complete waste of a programmers time.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Moore" <jesusloves1966@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Best settings to use Windows10's Mail app with latest
NVDA?


Hi!
I use the Mail app all the time, and I definitely have the messages show in
conversation view. You can delete a whole group of messages at one press of
the delete key.
You have to press the left arrow a couple of times before you read the next
message.
The mail app opens the conversation by itself, so you have to press the left
arrow a couple of times really quickly and press delete very quickly if you
want to delete that entire conversation of messages.
I use NVDA with character typing, so I am not sure about word echo.
Sometimes, to read a message, you have to enter on the message, then shift
tab, and tab back to the message, press left arrow a couple of times to
close the conversation, and press enter two or three times quickly to open
the message.
The Mail app s not going to give you the same result all of the time.
You have to get creative and find work arounds as you go to get the most out
of it.
You can press the applications key or shift+F10 on a folder, and get many
choices like:
Create a sub folder, add the folder to your favorites, and more.
You cannot make rules in the mail app itself.
You have to create the rules on the web site, and they will import into the
mail app.
Good luck, and ask anymore questions!
David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 4:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Best settings to use Windows10's Mail app with latest NVDA?

Last night, I debued a new Laptop with Windows10, and am using its Mail app.
HOwever I?d like to see what settings you’drecommend to get the best working
experience? Firstly let’s say I?reading Emails a thread, and when the thread
ends, it seems to put me out of the Email bodies, with the button that in
Spanish, atlesat, it says something about Navigation expended, orNavigation
contracted.I’d like for the Mail program, like it has donewith allthe Mail
programs I’ve used over the yearsI’ve been using Windows, to until I’mdone
Reading all the Emails, it’ll take out of the theirbodies. My method is to
first delete all the ones that don’t seeminteresting, and only readthe
apparently interesting ones. Can this be done? And lastly the most
frustratingexperience I’m having with the Windows10Mail app is that NVDA
doesn’tread the words upon spacing! Yes I’veactivated and deactivated the
option of NVDA+3, with nodifference! So what tips/tricks do you guys
recommend to get the most out of Windows10’s Mail app?

Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10










Re: Best settings to use Windows10's Mail app with latestNVDA?

David Griffith
 

It is all personal preference I guess but on my system Thunderbird is sluggish and pretty slow. Windows Mail is snappy and fast.

I find the keyboard shortcuts very intuitive, pretty much identical to Outlook and it is easily the fastest and easiest Mail client I use.

As mentioned there are a couple of focus workarounds you have to deploy if the Inbox updates with new mail coming in but personally pressing shift tab  occasionally is not a hardship.

Bells and whistles it does not have but I can use the sluggish and cumbersome old Outlook which I have on my system if this is really required.

I much prefer using Mail though.

The vast majority of time I simply want to write or read emails quickly and it does fine for this, as it is doing at the moment.

The main annoyance with NVDA and Mail is that you have to press alt a couple of time before typing in a replied or new mail. This is not required with Jaws so it would be useful if this could be sorted out.

David Griffith

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: Gene
Sent: 24 October 2018 13:47
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Best settings to use Windows10's Mail app with latestNVDA?

 

All that trouble when you can use Windows Live Mail or Thunderbird?  Why do people use the Microsoft Mail app when there are such superior alternatives?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 1:44 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Best settings to use Windows10's Mail app with latest NVDA?

 

That is a really cock eyed way to do such things. I really do not understand
why Microsoft did not actually develop something like Outlook Express
instead of attempting to create a wheel with square corners. Its another
thing like Skype and ribbon menus where they know best, or rather think they
do!
Change for its own sake seems a complete waste of a programmers time.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Moore" <jesusloves1966@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Best settings to use Windows10's Mail app with latest
NVDA?


Hi!
I use the Mail app all the time, and I definitely have the messages show in
conversation view. You can delete a whole group of messages at one press of
the delete key.
You have to press the left arrow a couple of times before you read the next
message.
The mail app opens the conversation by itself, so you have to press the left
arrow a couple of times really quickly and press delete very quickly if you
want to delete that entire conversation of messages.
I use NVDA with character typing, so I am not sure about word echo.
Sometimes, to read a message, you have to enter on the message, then shift
tab, and tab back to the message, press left arrow a couple of times to
close the conversation, and press enter two or three times quickly to open
the message.
The Mail app s not going to give you the same result all of the time.
You have to get creative and find work arounds as you go to get the most out
of it.
You can press the applications key or shift+F10 on a folder, and get many
choices like:
Create a sub folder, add the folder to your favorites, and more.
You cannot make rules in the mail app itself.
You have to create the rules on the web site, and they will import into the
mail app.
Good luck, and ask anymore questions!
David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 4:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Best settings to use Windows10's Mail app with latest NVDA?

Last night, I debued a new Laptop with Windows10, and am using its Mail app.
HOwever I?d like to see what settings you’drecommend to get the best working
experience? Firstly let’s say I?reading Emails a thread, and when the thread
ends, it seems to put me out of the Email bodies, with the button that in
Spanish, atlesat, it says something about Navigation expended, orNavigation
contracted.I’d like for the Mail program, like it has donewith allthe Mail
programs I’ve used over the yearsI’ve been using Windows, to until I’mdone
Reading all the Emails, it’ll take out of the theirbodies. My method is to
first delete all the ones that don’t seeminteresting, and only readthe
apparently interesting ones. Can this be done? And lastly the most
frustratingexperience I’m having with the Windows10Mail app is that NVDA
doesn’tread the words upon spacing! Yes I’veactivated and deactivated the
option of NVDA+3, with nodifference! So what tips/tricks do you guys
recommend to get the most out of Windows10’s Mail app?

Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10








 


Re: Best settings to use Windows10's Mail app with latest NVDA?

Earle Zwicker
 

I use Thunderbird.  I find that it is much better than the Windows mail app.  It all comes down to personal preference.


Earle

On 2018-10-24 4:10 p.m., Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

I agree. I tried the mail app and didn't really care for it.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 5:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Best settings to use Windows10's Mail app with latest NVDA?

 

All that trouble when you can use Windows Live Mail or Thunderbird?  Why do people use the Microsoft Mail app when there are such superior alternatives?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 1:44 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Best settings to use Windows10's Mail app with latest NVDA?

 

That is a really cock eyed way to do such things. I really do not understand
why Microsoft did not actually develop something like Outlook Express
instead of attempting to create a wheel with square corners. Its another
thing like Skype and ribbon menus where they know best, or rather think they
do!
Change for its own sake seems a complete waste of a programmers time.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Moore" <jesusloves1966@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Best settings to use Windows10's Mail app with latest
NVDA?


Hi!
I use the Mail app all the time, and I definitely have the messages show in
conversation view. You can delete a whole group of messages at one press of
the delete key.
You have to press the left arrow a couple of times before you read the next
message.
The mail app opens the conversation by itself, so you have to press the left
arrow a couple of times really quickly and press delete very quickly if you
want to delete that entire conversation of messages.
I use NVDA with character typing, so I am not sure about word echo.
Sometimes, to read a message, you have to enter on the message, then shift
tab, and tab back to the message, press left arrow a couple of times to
close the conversation, and press enter two or three times quickly to open
the message.
The Mail app s not going to give you the same result all of the time.
You have to get creative and find work arounds as you go to get the most out
of it.
You can press the applications key or shift+F10 on a folder, and get many
choices like:
Create a sub folder, add the folder to your favorites, and more.
You cannot make rules in the mail app itself.
You have to create the rules on the web site, and they will import into the
mail app.
Good luck, and ask anymore questions!
David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 4:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Best settings to use Windows10's Mail app with latest NVDA?

Last night, I debued a new Laptop with Windows10, and am using its Mail app.
HOwever I?d like to see what settings you’drecommend to get the best working
experience? Firstly let’s say I?reading Emails a thread, and when the thread
ends, it seems to put me out of the Email bodies, with the button that in
Spanish, atlesat, it says something about Navigation expended, orNavigation
contracted.I’d like for the Mail program, like it has donewith allthe Mail
programs I’ve used over the yearsI’ve been using Windows, to until I’mdone
Reading all the Emails, it’ll take out of the theirbodies. My method is to
first delete all the ones that don’t seeminteresting, and only readthe
apparently interesting ones. Can this be done? And lastly the most
frustratingexperience I’m having with the Windows10Mail app is that NVDA
doesn’tread the words upon spacing! Yes I’veactivated and deactivated the
option of NVDA+3, with nodifference! So what tips/tricks do you guys
recommend to get the most out of Windows10’s Mail app?

Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10









Re: Best settings to use Windows10's Mail app with latest NVDA?

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I agree. I tried the mail app and didn't really care for it.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 5:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Best settings to use Windows10's Mail app with latest NVDA?

 

All that trouble when you can use Windows Live Mail or Thunderbird?  Why do people use the Microsoft Mail app when there are such superior alternatives?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 1:44 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Best settings to use Windows10's Mail app with latest NVDA?

 

That is a really cock eyed way to do such things. I really do not understand
why Microsoft did not actually develop something like Outlook Express
instead of attempting to create a wheel with square corners. Its another
thing like Skype and ribbon menus where they know best, or rather think they
do!
Change for its own sake seems a complete waste of a programmers time.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Moore" <jesusloves1966@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Best settings to use Windows10's Mail app with latest
NVDA?


Hi!
I use the Mail app all the time, and I definitely have the messages show in
conversation view. You can delete a whole group of messages at one press of
the delete key.
You have to press the left arrow a couple of times before you read the next
message.
The mail app opens the conversation by itself, so you have to press the left
arrow a couple of times really quickly and press delete very quickly if you
want to delete that entire conversation of messages.
I use NVDA with character typing, so I am not sure about word echo.
Sometimes, to read a message, you have to enter on the message, then shift
tab, and tab back to the message, press left arrow a couple of times to
close the conversation, and press enter two or three times quickly to open
the message.
The Mail app s not going to give you the same result all of the time.
You have to get creative and find work arounds as you go to get the most out
of it.
You can press the applications key or shift+F10 on a folder, and get many
choices like:
Create a sub folder, add the folder to your favorites, and more.
You cannot make rules in the mail app itself.
You have to create the rules on the web site, and they will import into the
mail app.
Good luck, and ask anymore questions!
David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 4:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Best settings to use Windows10's Mail app with latest NVDA?

Last night, I debued a new Laptop with Windows10, and am using its Mail app.
HOwever I?d like to see what settings you’drecommend to get the best working
experience? Firstly let’s say I?reading Emails a thread, and when the thread
ends, it seems to put me out of the Email bodies, with the button that in
Spanish, atlesat, it says something about Navigation expended, orNavigation
contracted.I’d like for the Mail program, like it has donewith allthe Mail
programs I’ve used over the yearsI’ve been using Windows, to until I’mdone
Reading all the Emails, it’ll take out of the theirbodies. My method is to
first delete all the ones that don’t seeminteresting, and only readthe
apparently interesting ones. Can this be done? And lastly the most
frustratingexperience I’m having with the Windows10Mail app is that NVDA
doesn’tread the words upon spacing! Yes I’veactivated and deactivated the
option of NVDA+3, with nodifference! So what tips/tricks do you guys
recommend to get the most out of Windows10’s Mail app?

Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10









Re: Games for the blind

Clarissa Mitchell
 

I recently downloaded lots of games to occupy myself. Two main places
you can go are www.audiogames.net and the audio games archive, both of
which have been mentioned previously. AudioGames.knet has a list of
any game you could possibly want, and the archive has old games that
are no longer available elsewhere or were abandoned.

On 10/24/18, Sociohack AC <acsociopath@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi!

Any gamers here? I'm a beginner, can you introduce some of the games?

Also, if there something like prize gaming for blind people also?
--
Regards,
Sociohack




Re: Read Metadata in Switched Language

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Well that ids because the computer is still switched to the language it defaults to, only the text being read is marked as spanish, so really nvda is doing what it is supposed to. If you switched the whole computer over then i guess it would all be in Spanish.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rechell Schwartz via Groups.Io" <rechell_schwartz=glic.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 3:58 PM
Subject: [nvda] Read Metadata in Switched Language


Hello,

When I have the screen reader read Spanish content with the eSpeak profile,
although it is reading the screen text properly, it is saying the metadata in English (e.g. "visited link")
in English. Is there any way to configure so that even the metadata is read in Spanish?

Thanks,
Rechell Schwartz
Guardian Life Insurance Company
IT - BTS Group UI/UX
(212)919-3853

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Re: Games for the blind

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

If you like text adventures, also known as interactive fiction, this is the place to go.

https://www.ifarchive.org/

 

On 10/24/2018 4:27 AM, Sociohack AC wrote:

 Hi!

Any gamers here? I'm a beginner, can you introduce some of the games?

Also, if there something like prize gaming for blind people also?
--
Regards,
Sociohack

 

 

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Re: Games for the blind

 

Hi Travis,
Is this a Spanish site? I opened the link and found a fully-Spanish website and still found nothing about gaming, even something about blind tech.
Cheers,
Marcio
Em 24/10/2018 13:32, Travis Siegel escreveu:

Folks looking for general gaming for the blind may be better served by the audyssey list.  I don't know the specific subscribe info, but it can be found at audyssey.org.

Hope this helps.


On 10/24/2018 4:27 AM, Sociohack AC wrote:

 Hi!

Any gamers here? I'm a beginner, can you introduce some of the games?

Also, if there something like prize gaming for blind people also?
--
Regards,
Sociohack



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Re: Games for the blind

goshawk on horseback
 


I don't think it is under that name any more, I think it transformed in to the blind gamers list:
 
Simon
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Games for the blind

Folks looking for general gaming for the blind may be better served by the audyssey list.  I don't know the specific subscribe info, but it can be found at audyssey.org.

Hope this helps.


On 10/24/2018 4:27 AM, Sociohack AC wrote:

 Hi!

Any gamers here? I'm a beginner, can you introduce some of the games?

Also, if there something like prize gaming for blind people also?
--
Regards,
Sociohack



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Re: PASTEL

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

the original poster asked about pastel (like the chalk used to draw on sidewalks), not pascal (a programming language), and just for reference, delphi is *not* related to open pascal, it's it's own little versio of pascal, that several free pascal implementations have to screw up their own code just to support delphi conventions, it's all very irritating for the free pascal folks.


On 10/24/2018 9:36 AM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

I don't know if Pascal is, but Delphi, which is a dialect of Open Pascal can be made to be accessible


On 24/10/2018 12:45 PM, Heaven Botma wrote:

Dear List

 

Does anyone know if Pastel works with NVDA, as it is a popular fincial accounting application in South African businesses?

 

Thank you.

 

Kind regards

 

 

 

Heaven Botma

Programme Co-ordinator | Program Koördineerder

20 Adderley Street, Worcester

T 023 348 7616 F 086 415 6835

www.innovationfortheblind.org

 




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Re: Games for the blind

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Folks looking for general gaming for the blind may be better served by the audyssey list.  I don't know the specific subscribe info, but it can be found at audyssey.org.

Hope this helps.


On 10/24/2018 4:27 AM, Sociohack AC wrote:

 Hi!

Any gamers here? I'm a beginner, can you introduce some of the games?

Also, if there something like prize gaming for blind people also?
--
Regards,
Sociohack



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Read Metadata in Switched Language

Rechell Schwartz <rechell_schwartz@...>
 

Hello,


When I have the screen reader read Spanish content with the eSpeak profile,

although it is reading the screen text properly, it is saying the metadata in English (e.g. “visited link”)

in English. Is there any way to configure so that even the metadata is read in Spanish?

 

Thanks,

Rechell Schwartz

Guardian Life Insurance Company

IT - BTS Group UI/UX

(212)919-3853

 


 


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Re: PASTEL

Antony Stone
 

We are not talking about programming languages; we're talking about a financial
accounting application.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastel_Accounting

Antony.

On Wednesday 24 October 2018 at 15:36:17, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

I don't know if Pascal is, but Delphi, which is a dialect of Open Pascal
can be made to be accessible

On 24/10/2018 12:45 PM, Heaven Botma wrote:
Dear List

Does anyone know if Pastel works with NVDA, as it is a popular fincial
accounting application in South African businesses?

Thank you.

Kind regards

Heaven Botma
--
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temperature of patients in a hospital."

- Stéphane Bortzmeyer

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Re: PASTEL

Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
 

I don't know if Pascal is, but Delphi, which is a dialect of Open Pascal can be made to be accessible


On 24/10/2018 12:45 PM, Heaven Botma wrote:

Dear List

 

Does anyone know if Pastel works with NVDA, as it is a popular fincial accounting application in South African businesses?

 

Thank you.

 

Kind regards

 

 

 

Heaven Botma

Programme Co-ordinator | Program Koördineerder

20 Adderley Street, Worcester

T 023 348 7616 F 086 415 6835

www.innovationfortheblind.org

 



O.T.: Fwd: Fwd: Low Vision? Disability? 1.8 Million digital books free, now Worldwide

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Sorry for the O.T., but I think this may interest many of us not living in the U.S..

I got my access last night, and am about to try this out.
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Re: Best settings to use Windows10's Mail app with latest NVDA?

Gene
 

All that trouble when you can use Windows Live Mail or Thunderbird?  Why do people use the Microsoft Mail app when there are such superior alternatives?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Best settings to use Windows10's Mail app with latest NVDA?

That is a really cock eyed way to do such things. I really do not understand
why Microsoft did not actually develop something like Outlook Express
instead of attempting to create a wheel with square corners. Its another
thing like Skype and ribbon menus where they know best, or rather think they
do!
Change for its own sake seems a complete waste of a programmers time.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Moore" <jesusloves1966@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Best settings to use Windows10's Mail app with latest
NVDA?


Hi!
I use the Mail app all the time, and I definitely have the messages show in
conversation view. You can delete a whole group of messages at one press of
the delete key.
You have to press the left arrow a couple of times before you read the next
message.
The mail app opens the conversation by itself, so you have to press the left
arrow a couple of times really quickly and press delete very quickly if you
want to delete that entire conversation of messages.
I use NVDA with character typing, so I am not sure about word echo.
Sometimes, to read a message, you have to enter on the message, then shift
tab, and tab back to the message, press left arrow a couple of times to
close the conversation, and press enter two or three times quickly to open
the message.
The Mail app s not going to give you the same result all of the time.
You have to get creative and find work arounds as you go to get the most out
of it.
You can press the applications key or shift+F10 on a folder, and get many
choices like:
Create a sub folder, add the folder to your favorites, and more.
You cannot make rules in the mail app itself.
You have to create the rules on the web site, and they will import into the
mail app.
Good luck, and ask anymore questions!
David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 4:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Best settings to use Windows10's Mail app with latest NVDA?

Last night, I debued a new Laptop with Windows10, and am using its Mail app.
HOwever I?d like to see what settings you’drecommend to get the best working
experience? Firstly let’s say I?reading Emails a thread, and when the thread
ends, it seems to put me out of the Email bodies, with the button that in
Spanish, atlesat, it says something about Navigation expended, orNavigation
contracted.I’d like for the Mail program, like it has donewith allthe Mail
programs I’ve used over the yearsI’ve been using Windows, to until I’mdone
Reading all the Emails, it’ll take out of the theirbodies. My method is to
first delete all the ones that don’t seeminteresting, and only readthe
apparently interesting ones. Can this be done? And lastly the most
frustratingexperience I’m having with the Windows10Mail app is that NVDA
doesn’tread the words upon spacing! Yes I’veactivated and deactivated the
option of NVDA+3, with nodifference! So what tips/tricks do you guys
recommend to get the most out of Windows10’s Mail app?

Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10










Re: PASTEL

Andre Vosloo <avosloo1@...>
 

Hi Heaven

 

I doubt if it would.  Pastel in itself is not very accessible I handled queries like this before.  I Once tried Jaws on it and WE, no luck.  As I said the interface itself is not very user friendly for blind people.\\regards

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Heaven Botma
Sent: 24 October 2018 6:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] PASTEL

 

Dear List

 

Does anyone know if Pastel works with NVDA, as it is a popular fincial accounting application in South African businesses?

 

Thank you.

 

Kind regards

 

 

 

Heaven Botma

Programme Co-ordinator | Program Koördineerder

20 Adderley Street, Worcester

T 023 348 7616 F 086 415 6835

www.innovationfortheblind.org

 


Re: Games for the blind

Josh Kennedy
 

there's eurofly:

http://eurofly.stefankiss.sk/

Jim Kitchen's games pack with lots and lots of audio games.

https://blog.bryansmart.com/2015/08/12/kitchens-sink-1-0/

the audiogames.net forum with even more games.

www.audiogames.net

the audioGames archive with more games.

https://www.agarchive.net/

sam tupy's audio games, such as survive the wild, redSpot, and more. 

www.samtupy.com

Josh


Re: Games for the blind

Kevin <kleeva5@...>
 

https://www.audiogames.net/db.php?id=BG+chess+challenge

 

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

 

From: Sociohack AC
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 1:27 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Games for the blind

 

 Hi!

Any gamers here? I'm a beginner, can you introduce some of the games?

Also, if there something like prize gaming for blind people also?
--
Regards,
Sociohack

 


Re: Best settings to use Windows10's Mail app with latest NVDA?

Gerardo Corripio
 

And is there yet a way to quickly switch from Conversation to Imdividual Messages view? Because on my previous Win7 Laptop, using Thunderbird, I’d use Conversation view to delete the uninteresting ones, and switch to Individual view to read and interact with the ones left.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 24 oct 2018, a la(s) 12:14 a. m., Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> escribió:

i recently did a windows feedback asking for a hot key to jump me to all accounts.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Best settings to use Windows10's Mail app with latest NVDA?

Hi!

I use the Mail app all the time, and I definitely have the messages show in conversation view. You can delete a whole group of messages at one press of the delete key.

You have to press the left arrow a couple of times before you read the next message.

The mail app opens the conversation by itself, so you have to press the left arrow a couple of times really quickly and press delete very quickly if you want to delete that entire conversation of messages.

I use NVDA with character typing, so I am not sure about word echo. Sometimes, to read a message, you have to enter on the message, then shift tab, and tab back to the message, press left arrow a couple of times to close the conversation, and press enter two or three times quickly to open the message.

The Mail app s not going to give you the same result all of the time.

You have to get creative and find work arounds as you go to get the most out of it.

You can press the applications key or shift+F10 on a folder, and get many choices like:

Create a sub folder, add the folder to your favorites, and more.

You cannot make rules in the mail app itself.

You have to create the rules on the web site, and they will import into the mail app.

Good luck, and ask anymore questions!

David Moore

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 4:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Best settings to use Windows10's Mail app with latest NVDA?

 

Last night, I debued a new Laptop with Windows10, and am using its Mail app. HOwever I?d like to see what settings you’drecommend to get the best working experience? Firstly let’s say I?reading Emails a thread, and when the thread ends, it seems to put me out of the Email bodies, with the button that in Spanish, atlesat, it says something about Navigation expended, orNavigation contracted.I’d like for the Mail program, like it has donewith allthe Mail programs I’ve used over the yearsI’ve been using Windows, to until I’mdone Reading all the Emails, it’ll take out of the theirbodies. My method is to first delete all the ones that don’t seeminteresting, and only readthe apparently interesting ones. Can this be done? And lastly the most frustratingexperience I’m having with the Windows10Mail app is that NVDA doesn’tread the words upon spacing! Yes I’veactivated and deactivated the option of NVDA+3, with nodifference! So what tips/tricks do you guys recommend to get the most out of Windows10’s Mail app?

 

Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10