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Re: Add-on Updater: patch release candidate for update checking and key error problem

 

Hi,
Another user had this exact problem, and based on a Python Console output
from this user, it was traced to badly formatted add-on summary for Nuance
Vocalizer Expressive English Compact. The exact issue is that this
particular summary text is treated as a list, not a true string. Therefore,
I'm going to blacklist this add-on from showing up on Add-on Updater
settings panel/do not update list next week.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2018 10:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater: patch release candidate for update
checking and key error problem

Hello!

With this version, entering the NVDA Settings Panel, and arrowing down in
Categories, when arriving to Add-on Updater I receive the following
error:
NVDA last Alpha in Windows 10 64-bit.


ERROR - unhandled exception (18:44:34.561):
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "gui\settingsDialogs.pyc", line 2474, in onCategoryChange
File "gui\settingsDialogs.pyc", line 569, in onCategoryChange
File "gui\settingsDialogs.pyc", line 547, in _doCategoryChange
File "gui\settingsDialogs.pyc", line 480, in _getCategoryPanel
File "gui\settingsDialogs.pyc", line 247, in __init__
File
"C:\Users\tiflo\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\addonUpdater\globalPlugins\addon
Updater\__init__.py",
line 108, in makeSettings
File "gui\guiHelper.pyc", line 280, in addLabeledControl
File "gui\guiHelper.pyc", line 158, in __init__
File
"C:\Users\tiflo\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\addonUpdater\globalPlugins\addon
Updater\nvdaControlsEx.py",
line 74, in __init__
TypeError: CheckListBox(): arguments did not match any overloaded call:
overload 1: argument 'choices' has unexpected type 'list'
overload 2: too many arguments
IO - speech.speak (18:44:34.598):
Speaking [u'Add-on Updater 14 de 14']
DEBUG - NVDAObjects.NVDAObject._get_placeholder (18:44:34.598):
Potential unimplemented child class:
<NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem object at 0x057ED830>



Às 02:20 de 04/08/2018, Joseph Lee escreveu:
Hi,

Yes:

https://www.josephsl.net/files/nvdaaddons/addonUpdater-20180804-dev.nv
da-addon

In addition to the new link, this new patch should resolve continuous
progress beep problem when trying to check for updates. If this is
working, I’ll release 18.08.4 tonight.

Cheers,

Joseph

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Gene
New Zealand
*Sent:* Friday, August 3, 2018 6:17 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater: patch release candidate for
update checking and key error problem

Hi

The link is broken.

Could you post the new one

Gene nz

On 8/4/2018 12:34 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

A test version of Add-on Updater is now available from:


https://www.josephsl.net/files/nvdaaddons/addonUpdater-20180803-dev.nv
da-addon

This one should fix a regression where NVDA kept showing progress
bar dialog when performing a manual add-on update check. Once this
is working, I’ll release 18.08.4 to the public.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Add-on Updater: patch release candidate for update checking and key error problem

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

With this version, entering the NVDA Settings Panel, and arrowing down in Categories, when arriving to Add-on Updater I receive the following error:
NVDA last Alpha in Windows 10 64-bit.


ERROR - unhandled exception (18:44:34.561):
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "gui\settingsDialogs.pyc", line 2474, in onCategoryChange
File "gui\settingsDialogs.pyc", line 569, in onCategoryChange
File "gui\settingsDialogs.pyc", line 547, in _doCategoryChange
File "gui\settingsDialogs.pyc", line 480, in _getCategoryPanel
File "gui\settingsDialogs.pyc", line 247, in __init__
File "C:\Users\tiflo\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\addonUpdater\globalPlugins\addonUpdater\__init__.py", line 108, in makeSettings
File "gui\guiHelper.pyc", line 280, in addLabeledControl
File "gui\guiHelper.pyc", line 158, in __init__
File "C:\Users\tiflo\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\addonUpdater\globalPlugins\addonUpdater\nvdaControlsEx.py", line 74, in __init__
TypeError: CheckListBox(): arguments did not match any overloaded call:
overload 1: argument 'choices' has unexpected type 'list'
overload 2: too many arguments
IO - speech.speak (18:44:34.598):
Speaking [u'Add-on Updater 14 de 14']
DEBUG - NVDAObjects.NVDAObject._get_placeholder (18:44:34.598):
Potential unimplemented child class: <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem object at 0x057ED830>



Às 02:20 de 04/08/2018, Joseph Lee escreveu:

Hi,
Yes:
https://www.josephsl.net/files/nvdaaddons/addonUpdater-20180804-dev.nvda-addon
In addition to the new link, this new patch should resolve continuous progress beep problem when trying to check for updates. If this is working, I’ll release 18.08.4 tonight.
Cheers,
Joseph
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Gene New Zealand
*Sent:* Friday, August 3, 2018 6:17 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater: patch release candidate for update checking and key error problem
Hi
The link is broken.
Could you post the new one
Gene nz
On 8/4/2018 12:34 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi all,
A test version of Add-on Updater is now available from:
https://www.josephsl.net/files/nvdaaddons/addonUpdater-20180803-dev.nvda-addon
This one should fix a regression where NVDA kept showing progress
bar dialog when performing a manual add-on update check. Once this
is working, I’ll release 18.08.4 to the public.
Cheers,
Joseph


Re: installing nvda on new laptop

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

If pressing SpaceBar or Enter on the Change button closes the dialog, try pressing NVDA+Control+S...

That command should open the Change synth dialog...

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team


Às 17:22 de 04/08/2018, Don H escreveu:

trying to install NVDA on a new laptop I purchased for my wife.  After installing it and going into the speech settings I only have the one core voices to choose from.  Why aren't any other options showing up? After the line that shows the one core voice there is a change button but if I press that the NVDA UI closes and I am back to the desktop.
Running latest version of Win 10 on this HP Envy 13z laptop.  It is running AMD processor and graphics if that makes any difference.
Thanks


Re: installing nvda on new laptop

 

What synthesizer are you using?  This has a direct impact on what voices will or will not be presented.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: can't load the baum braille display in NVDA

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

Have you placed your Orbit in HID USB mode, Emulation mode in Off and Mode in USB?

Mine works, but I am Using last Alpha version...

Rui Fontes



Às 01:07 de 04/08/2018, Rusty Perez escreveu:

Hey folks, I'm running NVDA 2018.2.1 and I'm trying to use my Orbit
Reader 20 with it. It is connected via USB and when I go in to the
nvda / settings / Braille menu and try and select the Baum / APH /
orbit option, I get the error tone and it says "could not load the
Baum display"
I've used my OR20 before with NVDA.
Any thoughts?
Thanks!
Rusty
.


Re: Add-on Updater and Screen Curtain: updated with top requested features

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


Where Joseph refers to is check under the input gestures section of nvda.


When you get there press the enter key then go to tools then screen curtain and asign a key.


I missed that one 2 in the latest update of the add on  of where to assign a key.

.

I was looking either under tools menu under the preferences section there is a menu there for screen curtain and when checked is on and unchecked is off. I went with the short cut when it was done.

You will need the latest version of screen curtain.


I did not realize it either there is also a gesture where you can open the add on manager quickly with a gesture in that section.


Gene nz




On 8/5/2018 5:02 AM, Inam Uddin via Groups.Io wrote:

If it does exist, then it should be mentioned at least in your announcement email!

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

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From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2018 9:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater and Screen Curtain: updated with top requested features

 

Hi,

That command does exist and is unassigned by default (Joseph decides to drink a bottle of black coffee to stay up all night and work on documentation…). I’ll mention this fact in the readme later in August.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Inam Uddin via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2018 9:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater and Screen Curtain: updated with top requested features

 

Dear Joseph, there should be a command for putting screen curtain on and off and it should be off by default!

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddin09@...

Inamuddin.ronaque@...

outlook:
inam092@...

yahoo:
inamuddin2010@...

Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
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Follow me on my twitter ID:
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Call me on my cell numbers:
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+92-334-3348409

 

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2018 2:09 AM
To: 'NVDA screen reader development'
Subject: [nvda] Add-on Updater and Screen Curtain: updated with top requested features

 

Hi everyone,

 

I’m delighted to announce the immediate release of updates to Add-on Updater and Screen Curtain. Note that these add-ons are proof of concept (prototype) add-ons and should be used to provide feedback to people developing these feature in NVDA Core:

 

  • Add-on Updater (NVDA Core issue 3208): Joseph Lee
  • Screen Curtain (NVDA Core issue 7857): Leonard de Ruijter/Babbage B.V.

 

In case of Add-on Updater, today’s build includes work from checkable list (NVDA issue 7491), thus serving as a field test of that issue. If you have any comments on checkable list, please send them to Leonard.

 

To check for add-on updates:

 

  1. If you have Add-on Updater installed, go to NVDA menu/Tools/Check for add-on updates.
  2. If you don’t have Add-on Updater, go to community add-ons website and install Add-on Updater.
  3. Due to addition of Screen Curtain in “add-ons under development” category, you’ll need to check for add-on updates a second time to update Screen Curtain.

 

Changelog:

 

Add-on Updater:

  • When new add-on updates appear, the first entry will be selected and announced automatically.
  • Added ability to exclude add-ons from being updated. You can configure this by going to NVDA menu/Preferences/Settings/Add-on Updater panel. From “do not update add-ons” checkable list box, check add-ons you do not want Add-on Updater to update. This was requested by an add-on author.

 

Screen Curtain:

  • Added a check to make sure magnification wrapper can be imported.
  • Added an unassigned gesture to toggle screen curtain.
  • Added a toggle menu item in Tools that shows state of Screen Curtain.

 

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 



Re: Add-on Updater and Screen Curtain: updated with top requested features

 

Hi,

I think I did in the original email (if not, I apologize for not doing so).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Inam Uddin via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2018 10:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater and Screen Curtain: updated with top requested features

 

If it does exist, then it should be mentioned at least in your announcement email!

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddin09@...

Inamuddin.ronaque@...

outlook:
inam092@...

yahoo:
inamuddin2010@...

Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786

Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1

Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598 

+92-334-3348409

 

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2018 9:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater and Screen Curtain: updated with top requested features

 

Hi,

That command does exist and is unassigned by default (Joseph decides to drink a bottle of black coffee to stay up all night and work on documentation…). I’ll mention this fact in the readme later in August.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Inam Uddin via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2018 9:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater and Screen Curtain: updated with top requested features

 

Dear Joseph, there should be a command for putting screen curtain on and off and it should be off by default!

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddin09@...

Inamuddin.ronaque@...

outlook:
inam092@...

yahoo:
inamuddin2010@...

Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786

Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1

Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598 

+92-334-3348409

 

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2018 2:09 AM
To: 'NVDA screen reader development'
Subject: [nvda] Add-on Updater and Screen Curtain: updated with top requested features

 

Hi everyone,

 

I’m delighted to announce the immediate release of updates to Add-on Updater and Screen Curtain. Note that these add-ons are proof of concept (prototype) add-ons and should be used to provide feedback to people developing these feature in NVDA Core:

 

  • Add-on Updater (NVDA Core issue 3208): Joseph Lee
  • Screen Curtain (NVDA Core issue 7857): Leonard de Ruijter/Babbage B.V.

 

In case of Add-on Updater, today’s build includes work from checkable list (NVDA issue 7491), thus serving as a field test of that issue. If you have any comments on checkable list, please send them to Leonard.

 

To check for add-on updates:

 

  1. If you have Add-on Updater installed, go to NVDA menu/Tools/Check for add-on updates.
  2. If you don’t have Add-on Updater, go to community add-ons website and install Add-on Updater.
  3. Due to addition of Screen Curtain in “add-ons under development” category, you’ll need to check for add-on updates a second time to update Screen Curtain.

 

Changelog:

 

Add-on Updater:

  • When new add-on updates appear, the first entry will be selected and announced automatically.
  • Added ability to exclude add-ons from being updated. You can configure this by going to NVDA menu/Preferences/Settings/Add-on Updater panel. From “do not update add-ons” checkable list box, check add-ons you do not want Add-on Updater to update. This was requested by an add-on author.

 

Screen Curtain:

  • Added a check to make sure magnification wrapper can be imported.
  • Added an unassigned gesture to toggle screen curtain.
  • Added a toggle menu item in Tools that shows state of Screen Curtain.

 

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 


Re: Add-on Updater and Screen Curtain: updated with top requested features

Inam Uddin
 

If it does exist, then it should be mentioned at least in your announcement email!

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddin09@...

Inamuddin.ronaque@...

outlook:
inam092@...

yahoo:
inamuddin2010@...

Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786

Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1

Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598 

+92-334-3348409

 

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2018 9:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater and Screen Curtain: updated with top requested features

 

Hi,

That command does exist and is unassigned by default (Joseph decides to drink a bottle of black coffee to stay up all night and work on documentation…). I’ll mention this fact in the readme later in August.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Inam Uddin via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2018 9:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater and Screen Curtain: updated with top requested features

 

Dear Joseph, there should be a command for putting screen curtain on and off and it should be off by default!

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddin09@...

Inamuddin.ronaque@...

outlook:
inam092@...

yahoo:
inamuddin2010@...

Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786

Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1

Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598 

+92-334-3348409

 

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2018 2:09 AM
To: 'NVDA screen reader development'
Subject: [nvda] Add-on Updater and Screen Curtain: updated with top requested features

 

Hi everyone,

 

I’m delighted to announce the immediate release of updates to Add-on Updater and Screen Curtain. Note that these add-ons are proof of concept (prototype) add-ons and should be used to provide feedback to people developing these feature in NVDA Core:

 

  • Add-on Updater (NVDA Core issue 3208): Joseph Lee
  • Screen Curtain (NVDA Core issue 7857): Leonard de Ruijter/Babbage B.V.

 

In case of Add-on Updater, today’s build includes work from checkable list (NVDA issue 7491), thus serving as a field test of that issue. If you have any comments on checkable list, please send them to Leonard.

 

To check for add-on updates:

 

  1. If you have Add-on Updater installed, go to NVDA menu/Tools/Check for add-on updates.
  2. If you don’t have Add-on Updater, go to community add-ons website and install Add-on Updater.
  3. Due to addition of Screen Curtain in “add-ons under development” category, you’ll need to check for add-on updates a second time to update Screen Curtain.

 

Changelog:

 

Add-on Updater:

  • When new add-on updates appear, the first entry will be selected and announced automatically.
  • Added ability to exclude add-ons from being updated. You can configure this by going to NVDA menu/Preferences/Settings/Add-on Updater panel. From “do not update add-ons” checkable list box, check add-ons you do not want Add-on Updater to update. This was requested by an add-on author.

 

Screen Curtain:

  • Added a check to make sure magnification wrapper can be imported.
  • Added an unassigned gesture to toggle screen curtain.
  • Added a toggle menu item in Tools that shows state of Screen Curtain.

 

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 


Re: Add-on Updater and Screen Curtain: updated with top requested features

 

Hi,

That command does exist and is unassigned by default (Joseph decides to drink a bottle of black coffee to stay up all night and work on documentation…). I’ll mention this fact in the readme later in August.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Inam Uddin via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2018 9:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater and Screen Curtain: updated with top requested features

 

Dear Joseph, there should be a command for putting screen curtain on and off and it should be off by default!

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddin09@...

Inamuddin.ronaque@...

outlook:
inam092@...

yahoo:
inamuddin2010@...

Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786

Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1

Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598 

+92-334-3348409

 

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2018 2:09 AM
To: 'NVDA screen reader development'
Subject: [nvda] Add-on Updater and Screen Curtain: updated with top requested features

 

Hi everyone,

 

I’m delighted to announce the immediate release of updates to Add-on Updater and Screen Curtain. Note that these add-ons are proof of concept (prototype) add-ons and should be used to provide feedback to people developing these feature in NVDA Core:

 

  • Add-on Updater (NVDA Core issue 3208): Joseph Lee
  • Screen Curtain (NVDA Core issue 7857): Leonard de Ruijter/Babbage B.V.

 

In case of Add-on Updater, today’s build includes work from checkable list (NVDA issue 7491), thus serving as a field test of that issue. If you have any comments on checkable list, please send them to Leonard.

 

To check for add-on updates:

 

  1. If you have Add-on Updater installed, go to NVDA menu/Tools/Check for add-on updates.
  2. If you don’t have Add-on Updater, go to community add-ons website and install Add-on Updater.
  3. Due to addition of Screen Curtain in “add-ons under development” category, you’ll need to check for add-on updates a second time to update Screen Curtain.

 

Changelog:

 

Add-on Updater:

  • When new add-on updates appear, the first entry will be selected and announced automatically.
  • Added ability to exclude add-ons from being updated. You can configure this by going to NVDA menu/Preferences/Settings/Add-on Updater panel. From “do not update add-ons” checkable list box, check add-ons you do not want Add-on Updater to update. This was requested by an add-on author.

 

Screen Curtain:

  • Added a check to make sure magnification wrapper can be imported.
  • Added an unassigned gesture to toggle screen curtain.
  • Added a toggle menu item in Tools that shows state of Screen Curtain.

 

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Joseph

 


Re: Add-on Updater and Screen Curtain: updated with top requested features

Inam Uddin
 

Dear Joseph, there should be a command for putting screen curtain on and off and it should be off by default!

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddin09@...

Inamuddin.ronaque@...

outlook:
inam092@...

yahoo:
inamuddin2010@...

Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786

Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1

Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598 

+92-334-3348409

 

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2018 2:09 AM
To: 'NVDA screen reader development'
Subject: [nvda] Add-on Updater and Screen Curtain: updated with top requested features

 

Hi everyone,

 

I’m delighted to announce the immediate release of updates to Add-on Updater and Screen Curtain. Note that these add-ons are proof of concept (prototype) add-ons and should be used to provide feedback to people developing these feature in NVDA Core:

 

  • Add-on Updater (NVDA Core issue 3208): Joseph Lee
  • Screen Curtain (NVDA Core issue 7857): Leonard de Ruijter/Babbage B.V.

 

In case of Add-on Updater, today’s build includes work from checkable list (NVDA issue 7491), thus serving as a field test of that issue. If you have any comments on checkable list, please send them to Leonard.

 

To check for add-on updates:

 

  1. If you have Add-on Updater installed, go to NVDA menu/Tools/Check for add-on updates.
  2. If you don’t have Add-on Updater, go to community add-ons website and install Add-on Updater.
  3. Due to addition of Screen Curtain in “add-ons under development” category, you’ll need to check for add-on updates a second time to update Screen Curtain.

 

Changelog:

 

Add-on Updater:

  • When new add-on updates appear, the first entry will be selected and announced automatically.
  • Added ability to exclude add-ons from being updated. You can configure this by going to NVDA menu/Preferences/Settings/Add-on Updater panel. From “do not update add-ons” checkable list box, check add-ons you do not want Add-on Updater to update. This was requested by an add-on author.

 

Screen Curtain:

  • Added a check to make sure magnification wrapper can be imported.
  • Added an unassigned gesture to toggle screen curtain.
  • Added a toggle menu item in Tools that shows state of Screen Curtain.

 

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Joseph

 


installing nvda on new laptop

Don H
 

trying to install NVDA on a new laptop I purchased for my wife. After installing it and going into the speech settings I only have the one core voices to choose from. Why aren't any other options showing up? After the line that shows the one core voice there is a change button but if I press that the NVDA UI closes and I am back to the desktop.
Running latest version of Win 10 on this HP Envy 13z laptop. It is running AMD processor and graphics if that makes any difference.
Thanks


Re: FW: [Nvda-devel] FW: [nvda] New speech framework in NVDA

Josh Kennedy
 

what is speech refactor and what will it do? what are its advantages? 


Re: how to filter brailleoutput

Gene
 

How many people use Braille in combination with speech and in what combinations?  If you don't use speech to any extent, this wouldn't pose a problem.  If you use speechenough to change how words are pronounced, than any change in the speech dictionary would change Braille output.  If you change the pronunciation of a word, it will be spelled incorrectly in Braille. 
 
And Braille users may use a machine with speech users as well.
 
Therefore, a separate dictionary should be made available for Braille users that will only effect Braille if that is possible.
 
Gene
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Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2018 7:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to filter brailleoutput

Joseph wrote:
   that would require looking at braille tables ...

Why? I did not mean to suggest a new system just for braille.
I meant having an option for braille to use the same rules as are defined in the speech dictionary.





Re: Add-on Updater 18.08.4 patch to correct a regression from 18.08.3

 

Hi,

That is planned for a future release.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonathan Milam
Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2018 5:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater 18.08.4 patch to correct a regression from 18.08.3

 

Would it be possible to create an option as to whether or not it is on or off by default?  I myself would prefer that it be on by default, but can certainly understand Gene's situation as well.  Best of both world's perhaps?

 

Thanks,

Jonathan


On Aug 4, 2018, at 12:20 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

An unassigned gesture is available to toggle screen curtain on or off.

As for default state: starting from the next release, it’ll be off by default.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Friday, August 3, 2018 9:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater 18.08.4 patch to correct a regression from 18.08.3

 

Hi Joseph

 

This one is to do with the screen curtain.

 

I have noticed when nvda boots up the screen curtain is on. I have been told by my sighted partner.

this is when you turn on the computer for the first time and not stand by.

 

so to make her happy i went to tools then screen curtain and pressed the enter key on it so it would turn it off.

 

I then saved the configuration so it would not come up.

 

Computer gets turned off have a cup of coffee then boot back up the computer from off.

 

When it boots back up the screen curtain goes back on so then if the wife wants to use it i  will turn it off.

She says she can not see the screen to do it lol rof. I use it all the time that way i tell her.

 

 

I think may be the default should be off until you turn it on.

 

I am guessing if the sighted partner wanted to use the pc and did not know they would be stumped. On my computer when ever one of my computers boots up nvda comes on and so would the screen curtain until things are ironed out.

 

Will a short cut be created so it can be turned on and off quickly with out going through the menus?

 

By the way where i hear the beeps could down the track maybe have it say screen curtain on or off?

I do not know what others think but but would be easier than the beep. I think it is high beep for on and low for off?

 

fI am going to get her to see when i go into other screens etc if it stays on permanently until it is turned off I am guessing it will.

 

Gene nz

On 8/4/2018 2:06 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

 

First, I’d like to thank folks who have reported a bug where NVDA kept playing progress beep when trying to check for add-on updates. The root cause has been identified and a fix is now available in 18.08.4. Unfortunately, due to the nature of the problem, this one must be applied manually:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/files/get.php?file=nvda3208

 

Cheers,

Joseph

 


Re: Add-on Updater 18.08.4 patch to correct a regression from 18.08.3

Jonathan Milam
 

Would it be possible to create an option as to whether or not it is on or off by default?  I myself would prefer that it be on by default, but can certainly understand Gene's situation as well.  Best of both world's perhaps?

Thanks,
Jonathan


On Aug 4, 2018, at 12:20 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

An unassigned gesture is available to toggle screen curtain on or off.

As for default state: starting from the next release, it’ll be off by default.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Friday, August 3, 2018 9:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater 18.08.4 patch to correct a regression from 18.08.3

 

Hi Joseph

 

This one is to do with the screen curtain.

 

I have noticed when nvda boots up the screen curtain is on. I have been told by my sighted partner.

this is when you turn on the computer for the first time and not stand by.

 

so to make her happy i went to tools then screen curtain and pressed the enter key on it so it would turn it off.

 

I then saved the configuration so it would not come up.

 

Computer gets turned off have a cup of coffee then boot back up the computer from off.

 

When it boots back up the screen curtain goes back on so then if the wife wants to use it i  will turn it off.

She says she can not see the screen to do it lol rof. I use it all the time that way i tell her.

 

 

I think may be the default should be off until you turn it on.

 

I am guessing if the sighted partner wanted to use the pc and did not know they would be stumped. On my computer when ever one of my computers boots up nvda comes on and so would the screen curtain until things are ironed out.

 

Will a short cut be created so it can be turned on and off quickly with out going through the menus?

 

By the way where i hear the beeps could down the track maybe have it say screen curtain on or off?

I do not know what others think but but would be easier than the beep. I think it is high beep for on and low for off?

 

fI am going to get her to see when i go into other screens etc if it stays on permanently until it is turned off I am guessing it will.

 

Gene nz

On 8/4/2018 2:06 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

 

First, I’d like to thank folks who have reported a bug where NVDA kept playing progress beep when trying to check for add-on updates. The root cause has been identified and a fix is now available in 18.08.4. Unfortunately, due to the nature of the problem, this one must be applied manually:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/files/get.php?file=nvda3208

 

Cheers,

Joseph

 


Re: how to filter brailleoutput

Brian Tew
 

Joseph wrote:
that would require looking at braille tables ...

Why? I did not mean to suggest a new system just for braille.
I meant having an option for braille to use the same rules as are defined in the speech dictionary.


Re: how to filter brailleoutput

Brian Tew
 

Joseph, I am using the speech dictionary to shorten messages.
my skype version is 8.25. Windows 10 nt for work group.
It sounds like I need to get the stuff nou mention--skype 12 and app essentials.
I am very new to all this stuff.


Re: [Nvda-devel] FW: [nvda] New speech framework in NVDA

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One thing that has reached my ears from several people using, particularly laptops using relate sound hardware is that the hardware goes to sleep after a few seconds of no sound, probably due to some driver feature, and these means it seems there is a latency when new audio or speech is played even after a few seconds. Obviously not being a 10 user I cannot tell.
One luminary, who lives in New Zealand has called the current state of Windows 10 audio 'a dogs dinner' compared to windows 7.
I will say no more!
Maybe Microsoft need to check drivers more thoroughly before approving them. The person concerned returned a Surface series laptop due to this issue, but more recently others have mentioned it. I using 7, am feeling just a little smug, or I was till it did its woopsie on the a couple of days ago of course.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2018 7:10 AM
Subject: FW: [Nvda-devel] FW: [nvda] New speech framework in NVDA




-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Curran <mick@nvaccess.org>
Sent: Friday, August 3, 2018 11:09 PM
To: NVDA screen reader development <nvda-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>; joseph.lee22590@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] FW: [nvda] New speech framework in NVDA

We concentrated on getting wxPython4, Braille display auto detection and system test framework into 2018.3.

Once 2018.3 is finalized, we will look at getting speech Refactor into NVDA master as soon as we can, so that it will be available in 2018.4.


Mick




On 4/08/2018 1:52 PM, joseph.lee22590@gmail.com wrote:

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Malykh
Sent: Friday, August 3, 2018 8:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] New speech framework in NVDA

Hello,

This question is for NVDA developers. At NVDACon it was announced that there is going to be a new speech framework in NVDA. I assume it's this
issue:

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/pull/7599

However, there is not much activity in this issue lately. I am wondering if NVDA is still planning to finish this issue and if there is any estimate how soon?

I am looking forward towards this issue because I have an idea of another add-on that would be possible if new speech framework is implemented.


Thanks

Tony







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Re: Add-on Updater and Screen Curtain: updated with top requested features

Antony Stone
 

It's a mechanism to turn the screen dark while a blind person is using NVDA,
so that sighted people passing by can't read sensitive information.

Antony.

On Saturday 04 August 2018 at 12:23:08, Peter Beasley wrote:

What is screen curtain?
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Re: Add-on Updater: patch release candidate for update checking and key error problem

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Hi Joseph, it seems that the computer issue that made my machine unbootable was nvda trying to do an update while it was trying to tell me about an add on update. Can add on updates be made manual?
 
Quite what actually happened is hard to say, but nvda did a restart and when it tried to it locked up the keyboard.
 So the only recourse was to use the button but this time instead of  waiting a few seconds and booting into either safe mode or the normal boot it got stuck before this and somebody had to go into the bios and  tell it to reboot manually.
 
We have since proved this to be the issue twice, so on my installed copy, which is now reinstalled Add on updater has been removed and also I had to manually remove it from the folder in app data/nvda as well as we kept on getting  an error as it said it had a pending update but of course it had not add on updater so it got into a bit of a spin and completely scrambled nvdas keyboard input for no good reason I can deduce. Using the mouse my friend  got  my portable copy running instead then I went in and manually deleted the pending add on updater update and so far, fingers crossed no crashes of nvda with dead keyboard.
 Whether this is a specific windows 7  issue or a mismatch with another add on is not really clear, but I'll keep the add on updater in  my portable copy and see if that fixes the issue. I suspect 9 times out of ten, a button shutdown of windows will in fact work but now and again, not. somebody needs to invent a talking bios!
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----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2018 2:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater: patch release candidate for update checking and key error problem

Hi,

Thanks. Eventually you’ll be asked to update to 18.08.4.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Friday, August 3, 2018 6:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater: patch release candidate for update checking and key error problem

 

Hi Joseph

 

That looks as though it has done the trick. I just installed the latest add on the add on one then done a check for updates This time it told me there were none then gave me the option to close it. I can try a few more times later in the day but think i will get the same result saying there is none and the close button.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 8/4/2018 12:34 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

 

A test version of Add-on Updater is now available from:

https://www.josephsl.net/files/nvdaaddons/addonUpdater-20180803-dev.nvda-addon

 

This one should fix a regression where NVDA kept showing progress bar dialog when performing a manual add-on update check. Once this is working, I’ll release 18.08.4 to the public.

Cheers,

Joseph