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Re: VFO not complimentary about NVDA

Sky Mundell
 

That’s great Devin!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Devin Prater
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 9:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] VFO not complimentary about NVDA

 

The assistive tech department here teaches NVDA, and other low-cost solutions, although iPhone is still taught for blind people, but Android is used by many low-vision people.



On Jul 18, 2018, at 11:40 AM, Sky Mundell <skyt@...> wrote:

 

Yes there are deliberate lies going on with those blind organisations about alternative products. What they fail to take into account is that there are cutbacks going on in education, employment, and funding can only go so far. Not only that, but when the cutbacks begin to bite, these organisations will be forced to seek out cheaper things such as NVDA. At that point, they may go with NVDA. What also surprises me is that VFO hasn't even put up their prices yet!

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nvda@nvda.groups.io[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of mikolaj holysz
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 9:21 AM
To: 
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] VFO not complimentary about NVDA

Same thing happens over here, in POland. Altix, the local distributor of 
JAWS, has recently released a series of articles about Jamie leaving NV 
Access for Mozilla even though he did this a long time ago and about all 
the features NVDA doesn't have and JAWS does. I've even heart accounts 
of people who were told by altix representatives that NVDA is dangerous 
to their computers and that it might fry their motherboards, though I 
don't know if those who retold the story were speaking the truth or 
merely exaggerating.

This seems like pressure from Freedom Scientific to promote JAWS.

W dniu 2018-07-18 o 17:33, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io pisze:

I have just listened to the latest issue of Techtalk from the RNIB in 
the uk on Audioboom, and there is an interview with the software man at 
VFO about what they sell and future plans, and the guy asked him about 
NVDA Though not actually  trashing it, he used that old ploy that one of 
the programmers has now left to go to Mozilla and nobody will install 
NVDA in a business system because its open source etc. anyway, go and 
have a listen and see what you think. I guess his job is to big up his 
own company, but I noticed, dear old Dolphin never even got mentioned!
Brian

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Re: VFO not complimentary about NVDA

Devin Prater
 

The assistive tech department here teaches NVDA, and other low-cost solutions, although iPhone is still taught for blind people, but Android is used by many low-vision people.

On Jul 18, 2018, at 11:40 AM, Sky Mundell <skyt@...> wrote:

Yes there are deliberate lies going on with those blind organisations about alternative products. What they fail to take into account is that there are cutbacks going on in education, employment, and funding can only go so far. Not only that, but when the cutbacks begin to bite, these organisations will be forced to seek out cheaper things such as NVDA. At that point, they may go with NVDA. What also surprises me is that VFO hasn't even put up their prices yet!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of mikolaj holysz
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 9:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] VFO not complimentary about NVDA

Same thing happens over here, in POland. Altix, the local distributor of 
JAWS, has recently released a series of articles about Jamie leaving NV 
Access for Mozilla even though he did this a long time ago and about all 
the features NVDA doesn't have and JAWS does. I've even heart accounts 
of people who were told by altix representatives that NVDA is dangerous 
to their computers and that it might fry their motherboards, though I 
don't know if those who retold the story were speaking the truth or 
merely exaggerating.

This seems like pressure from Freedom Scientific to promote JAWS.

W dniu 2018-07-18 o 17:33, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io pisze:
I have just listened to the latest issue of Techtalk from the RNIB in 
the uk on Audioboom, and there is an interview with the software man at 
VFO about what they sell and future plans, and the guy asked him about 
NVDA Though not actually  trashing it, he used that old ploy that one of 
the programmers has now left to go to Mozilla and nobody will install 
NVDA in a business system because its open source etc. anyway, go and 
have a listen and see what you think. I guess his job is to big up his 
own company, but I noticed, dear old Dolphin never even got mentioned!
Brian

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Re: Lost the pound sign

Chris
 

Hitting windows+spacebar will change keyboard language

 

 

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Sent: 18 July 2018 16:46
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Lost the pound sign

 

I'd not know how this could be changed accidentally. Would she be likely to

have system restore on and be able to go back to a couple of days ago, or is

it off in 10 by default. Even then, I'm not sure it has any effect on the

installed keyboard language. i have had issues in the past with word

deciding to use American english templates for documents for no good reason

which really fouls up the spell checker big time!

 

Brian

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: "Antony Stone" <antony.stone@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 3:29 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Lost the pound sign

 

 

> It sounds like your computer has switched from thinking it has a UK

> keyboard

> layout (which has a pound sign on shift-3) to a US layout (which has a

> hash

> symbol on shift-3, and is often read as "number").

> To confirm this, what do you get by pressing shift-2?

> A UK layout will give you double quote marks; a US layout will give you an

> "at" sign.

> Antony.

> On Wednesday 18 July 2018 at 16:18:29, Sakina wrote:

>> Dear Gene and friends,

>> Thank you for your help regarding adding new email address in my people

>> app. I am sorry for I am not too clever and am still trying to figure it

>> out. Sadly, I do not have many addresses and therefore would be happy

>> doing it manually. For now I am cutting and pasting the address in the to

>> field.

>> Now today please I have lost my pound sign in my word document. I always

>> used to press shift key and press number 3 for the pound sign. Now when I

>> press shift key and number 3 it keeps saying number.

>> I do not know what I must have pressed accidently on the key board   as I

>> am one hundred % user of keyboard and do not know  what to do. I will

>> greatly appreciate any help.

>> Always thanking you all

>> Sakina

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Re: Lost the pound sign

Chris
 

Ok try this

 

Windows key+spacebar

 

This should switch the keyboard language to uk English, which I believe you wanted

 

 

From: Sakina
Sent: 18 July 2018 15:42
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Lost the pound sign

 

Friend,

For 7 years I have been using the same keyboard. It I am sure is not US keyboard.

Since last night, it always did the proper action.

When I just want letter 3 it gave and still gives letter 3

And used to with shift key give me # pound sign

But now when I need pound sign instead it says number.

Sakina

Letter 3 by itself.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chris via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 3:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Lost the pound sign

 

That’s odd, mine says pound sign as it should

I guess you are using US keyboard layout rather than the UK keyboard

 

 

From: Ian Blackburn
Sent: 18 July 2018 15:21
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Lost the pound sign

 

When the computer says the word number in that situation it means the pound sign

 


On 18 Jul 2018, at 10:18 pm, Sakina <sakina.gable@...> wrote:

Dear Gene and friends,

Thank you for your help regarding adding new email address in my people app.

I am sorry for I am not too clever and am still trying to figure it out. Sadly, I do not have many addresses and therefore would be happy doing it manually.

For now I am cutting and pasting the address in the to field.

Now today please I have lost my pound sign in my word document. I always used to press shift key and press number 3 for the pound sign.

Now when I press shift key and number 3 it keeps saying number.

I do not know what I must have pressed accidently on the key board   as I am one hundred % user of keyboard and do not know  what to do.

I will greatly appreciate any help.

Always thanking you all

Sakina

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

 


Re: VFO not complimentary about NVDA

Sky Mundell
 

Yes there are deliberate lies going on with those blind organisations about alternative products. What they fail to take into account is that there are cutbacks going on in education, employment, and funding can only go so far. Not only that, but when the cutbacks begin to bite, these organisations will be forced to seek out cheaper things such as NVDA. At that point, they may go with NVDA. What also surprises me is that VFO hasn't even put up their prices yet!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of mikolaj holysz
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 9:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] VFO not complimentary about NVDA

Same thing happens over here, in POland. Altix, the local distributor of
JAWS, has recently released a series of articles about Jamie leaving NV
Access for Mozilla even though he did this a long time ago and about all
the features NVDA doesn't have and JAWS does. I've even heart accounts
of people who were told by altix representatives that NVDA is dangerous
to their computers and that it might fry their motherboards, though I
don't know if those who retold the story were speaking the truth or
merely exaggerating.

This seems like pressure from Freedom Scientific to promote JAWS.

W dniu 2018-07-18 o 17:33, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io pisze:
I have just listened to the latest issue of Techtalk from the RNIB in
the uk on Audioboom, and there is an interview with the software man at
VFO about what they sell and future plans, and the guy asked him about
NVDA Though not actually trashing it, he used that old ploy that one of
the programmers has now left to go to Mozilla and nobody will install
NVDA in a business system because its open source etc. anyway, go and
have a listen and see what you think. I guess his job is to big up his
own company, but I noticed, dear old Dolphin never even got mentioned!
Brian

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Re: VFO not complimentary about NVDA

bob jutzi <jutzi1@...>
 

I've used NVDA over two years and can't be happier with it. It's extremely snappy and supports what I use very well. The screen review modes do take some adjusting to but well worth it as it beats throwing down $100 for upgrades. This doesn't sound like much but it is if you aren't employed and have other home expenses.

Nice job NV!

On 7/18/2018 12:03 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Oh come on. I’ve not ben using freedom rash tiva's products now for 8 years and I’m quite happy with it. I do talk to employers though and they say I either use jaws or nothing at all, they don’t want to install nvda on their systems. I explain what it is, and even my services here don’t want to deal with nvda even though i’ve brought it up. They don’t like open source. I wish that people would quit using freedom trash tiva’s stuff and switch to nvda, it is over all the best experience and getting better on a daily basis.

On Jul 18, 2018, at 8:33 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

I have just listened to the latest issue of Techtalk from the RNIB in the uk on Audioboom, and there is an interview with the software man at VFO about what they sell and future plans, and the guy asked him about NVDA Though not actually trashing it, he used that old ploy that one of the programmers has now left to go to Mozilla and nobody will install NVDA in a business system because its open source etc. anyway, go and have a listen and see what you think. I guess his job is to big up his own company, but I noticed, dear old Dolphin never even got mentioned!
Brian

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Re: Lost the pound sign

Antony Stone
 

This is not true on a UK keyboard.

Antony.

On Wednesday 18 July 2018 at 18:00:10, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Pound is number sign. So you did not lose it.
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Re: VFO not complimentary about NVDA

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

It's probably true that most larger organisations are going to go the JAWS route, if they already have an iT department that is familiar with accessibility concerns. However, as I've done several job interviews in the last year that require on-site tests/use of software, I can definitely say that the price tag and other issues involved in getting JAWS to work are a hurdle that companies will not cross. This is the very reason I started using NVDA more regularly in the first place; I had no choice if I was going to do those interviews. One company did try to install the 40 minute demo of JAWS and was not able to get it to work at all, though they didn't tell me the reason.

I still use both, but if I hadn't been able to obtain a cheap JAWS license from my former employer, Canada's chief "blindness organisation", I wouldn't be using JFW at all. Freedom Scientific might trash and disparage as much as they like; in the end I think their model just isn't very practical. They depend on government and corporate grants/licenses because they know that most blind individuals can't pay their exorbitant prices. I recently looked into Open Book and that thing is something like four or five times the price of a high quality mainstream OCR package. Just unbelievable.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of mikolaj holysz
Sent: July 18, 2018 12:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] VFO not complimentary about NVDA

Same thing happens over here, in POland. Altix, the local distributor of JAWS, has recently released a series of articles about Jamie leaving NV Access for Mozilla even though he did this a long time ago and about all the features NVDA doesn't have and JAWS does. I've even heart accounts of people who were told by altix representatives that NVDA is dangerous to their computers and that it might fry their motherboards, though I don't know if those who retold the story were speaking the truth or merely exaggerating.

This seems like pressure from Freedom Scientific to promote JAWS.

W dniu 2018-07-18 o 17:33, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io pisze:
I have just listened to the latest issue of Techtalk from the RNIB in
the uk on Audioboom, and there is an interview with the software man
at VFO about what they sell and future plans, and the guy asked him
about NVDA Though not actually trashing it, he used that old ploy
that one of the programmers has now left to go to Mozilla and nobody
will install NVDA in a business system because its open source etc.
anyway, go and have a listen and see what you think. I guess his job
is to big up his own company, but I noticed, dear old Dolphin never even got mentioned!
Brian

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Re: VFO not complimentary about NVDA

Mallard
 

They would deserve suing on the part of NV Access, although I realise that will never happeen...

People would sell their mother rather than give up some profit...

Che schifo! As we say here  in Italy...

Il 18/07/2018 18:21, mikolaj holysz ha scritto:
Same thing happens over here, in POland. Altix, the local distributor of JAWS, has recently released a series of articles about Jamie leaving NV Access for Mozilla even though he did this a long time ago and about all the features NVDA doesn't have and JAWS does. I've even heart accounts of people who were told by altix representatives that NVDA is dangerous to their computers and that it might fry their motherboards, though I don't know if those who retold the story were speaking the truth or merely exaggerating.

This seems like pressure from Freedom Scientific to promote JAWS.

W dniu 2018-07-18 o 17:33, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io pisze:
I have just listened to the latest issue of Techtalk from the RNIB in the uk on Audioboom, and there is an interview with the software man at VFO about what they sell and future plans, and the guy asked him about NVDA Though not actually  trashing it, he used that old ploy that one of the programmers has now left to go to Mozilla and nobody will install NVDA in a business system because its open source etc. anyway, go and have a listen and see what you think. I guess his job is to big up his own company, but I noticed, dear old Dolphin never even got mentioned!
Brian

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Re: VFO not complimentary about NVDA

mikolaj holysz <miki123211@...>
 

Same thing happens over here, in POland. Altix, the local distributor of JAWS, has recently released a series of articles about Jamie leaving NV Access for Mozilla even though he did this a long time ago and about all the features NVDA doesn't have and JAWS does. I've even heart accounts of people who were told by altix representatives that NVDA is dangerous to their computers and that it might fry their motherboards, though I don't know if those who retold the story were speaking the truth or merely exaggerating.

This seems like pressure from Freedom Scientific to promote JAWS.

W dniu 2018-07-18 o 17:33, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io pisze:

I have just listened to the latest issue of Techtalk from the RNIB in the uk on Audioboom, and there is an interview with the software man at VFO about what they sell and future plans, and the guy asked him about NVDA Though not actually  trashing it, he used that old ploy that one of the programmers has now left to go to Mozilla and nobody will install NVDA in a business system because its open source etc. anyway, go and have a listen and see what you think. I guess his job is to big up his own company, but I noticed, dear old Dolphin never even got mentioned!
Brian
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Re: VFO not complimentary about NVDA

Mallard
 

Couldn't agree more. But human stupidity is hard to crack... lol

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 18/07/2018 18:03, Sarah k Alawami ha scritto:
Oh come on. I’ve not ben using freedom rash tiva's products now for 8 years and I’m quite happy with it. I do talk to employers though and they say I either use jaws or nothing at all, they don’t want to install nvda on their systems. I explain what it is, and even my services here don’t want to deal with nvda even though i’ve brought it up. They don’t like open source. I wish that people would quit using freedom trash tiva’s stuff and switch to nvda, it is over all the best experience and getting better on a daily basis.

On Jul 18, 2018, at 8:33 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

I have just listened to the latest issue of Techtalk from the RNIB in the uk on Audioboom, and there is an interview with the software man at VFO about what they sell and future plans, and the guy asked him about NVDA Though not actually trashing it, he used that old ploy that one of the programmers has now left to go to Mozilla and nobody will install NVDA in a business system because its open source etc. anyway, go and have a listen and see what you think. I guess his job is to big up his own company, but I noticed, dear old Dolphin never even got mentioned!
Brian

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Re: Question About New Add-on And Wx4

 

Hi,

Depends. If your add-on relies on wxPython and/or GUI components, then yes, I advise working with alpha snapshots (perhaps as a portable copy).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Homme
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 9:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Question About New Add-on And Wx4

 

Hi,

With Joseph’s announcement about WX4, if I want to start a new add-on that uses one of the NVDA dialogs, do I need to get an NVDA snapshot? If so, how do I run that and keep everything separate from stable NVDA?

 

Thanks.

 

Jim

 

 

 

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Re: possible eloquence solution

Sarah k Alawami
 

I also disagree with that system. Has anyoen contacted themand voiced their experiences and if so what was the response. I think it might have ben something nlike”we don’t care.” not surprising. I tried to sign up for the beta for elocrash on android and they said that they have internal testing and don’t want or need beta testers at this time.

On Jul 18, 2018, at 6:32 AM, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:

Oh my that would be excellent! I would just love it, if eloquence and my copy of jaws were tied into my microsoft account or my windows account! then I could update windows without fear of losing anything! The cost of sapi5 eloquence is not really bad. because $70 for 10 languages comes out to around $7 per language. Not bad. It's the stupid licensing system that has to catch up to the 21st century. that is the major issue i do not like about how eloquence and other nuance products are registered. I did purchase sapi5 eloquence. i just disagree with their activation methods. 


Re: possible eloquence solution

Sarah k Alawami
 

I actually have my 1 core voices at about maybe 80 percent and the nvda voice at 60. No one else can understand it but me. I do slow it down on my my streams though to be nice but the voices are fast and very understandable for lack of a better term.

On Jul 17, 2018, at 11:52 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:

Yes I'm sure you know that several attempts were made by nv access to have a licence system that was not too onerous, but no. I do think myself, that its rubbish but acknowledge a lot find it good. it obviously is a personal thing.
I to do  agree that modern voices are unintelligible at fast, even moderate speeds.

I as you know made the variant Quincy for UK English espeak and am happy with it in the main if they would stop mucking about with words that sounded right before. However I do also feel that the speech player in Espeak project was very good and I'd like to see somebody take this up again to make it better for the US market. One has to realise at the moment though that the biggest growth area for nvda is the Indian Subcontinent, and maybe other languages than English.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] possible eloquence solution


Why should they do this?  You’re effectively stopping Code Factory from making money.  Just buy Eloquence and be done with it.  Besides, Microsoft wouldn’t maintain it.



All the best


Steve



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: 17 July 2018 13:11
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] possible eloquence solution



It seems like unless this problem is solved it will keep coming up. So I just went into feedback hub and I recommend all of you do the same. I wrote the following feedback to Microsoft.

Please purchase all rites to CodeFactory Nuance Eloquence TTS. Offer it as a free downloadable sapi5 and OneCore voice addons under ease of access in windows10. And on the Microsoft website as sapi5 for windows7 users. Also please maintain the android version so it keeps working and perhaps lower the price to $2 or $3. Nuance CodeFactory licenses are too restrictive. Adding Eloquence to microsoft’s voice portfolio would benefit those with hearing impairments. So if Microsoft owned it, whenever you buy a copy of windows or a new pc, you also pay for the rite to use eloquence on any pc you buy.and if you don’t want it, you just do not go into ease of access and download it. Nuance copyright is stuck back in the 80s and early 90s and has to change. If not, this issue will probably keep cropping up.





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Re: Skype 8 for desktop answering incoming call?

Sarah k Alawami
 

Feel free to subscribe to the skype english list where the owner of some scripts and add ons lives, or rather is subscribed. Lol!

Go to skypeenglish.tffppodcast.com and subscribe there.

As for your not being able to answer a call tab to the answer button and whack it. I’ve ben doing this for years now rather than rely on keystrokes. I personally at least as far as skype hate them. I feel I can know the interface a lot better by tabbing rather than key strokes which might not work, or they might depending on the day I’m having.


On Jul 18, 2018, at 7:21 AM, Cristóbal <cristobalmuli@...> wrote:

As I mentioned, I am using Skype for desktop.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 11:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Skype 8 for desktop answering incoming call?

 

Hi

 

Which version are you using?

 

My computer which is running windows 10 has the windows 10 app on it also the latest skype 8 desk top app which i am writing a tutorial for. In the desk top version skype 8 it has the options there to accept them automatically under calling they just have to be checked.

 

 

Just to confuse you as well there is a web version which is very much like skype 8

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 7/18/2018 12:34 PM, Cristóbal wrote:

I guess that’s a solution, but that’s not exactly encouraging. You figure for such an essential command, there would be a hotkey for it that would work outside of the program itself. I mean it already existed in older versions (alt plus pg-up).

I’m going to have to try tomorrow with it on my laptop. I haven’t updated my main desktop where I do nearly all of my calls so we’ll see.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 4:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Skype 8 for desktop answering incoming call?

 

Hi If i remember right when the call comes in it lands on i think it is the accept button then press the enter key and start talking.

I am not sure if it was read out by nvda though.

 

 

I would have to get some one to give me a call to confirm again as i use voip alot now.

 

Gene nz

 

 

 

 

 

On 7/18/2018 11:08 AM, Cristóbal wrote:

Hello list,

So, I upgraded Skype for desktop on a laptop to try to get used to it before MS kills Skype classic in September. I came across some short cut keys from: https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA12025/what-are-hotkeys-and-how-do-i-use-them-in-skype

What I’m not finding is the hotkey to answer an incoming call. I can’t believe that there isn’t one for such a  basic function, but it’s not listed in the table. Start a call, hang up, mute, that’s all fine, but nothing for answering a call. Am I missing something or is this really not included as a shortcut key?

Thanks,

Cristobal

 

 




Question About New Add-on And Wx4

Jim Homme
 

Hi,

With Joseph’s announcement about WX4, if I want to start a new add-on that uses one of the NVDA dialogs, do I need to get an NVDA snapshot? If so, how do I run that and keep everything separate from stable NVDA?

 

Thanks.

 

Jim

 

 

 

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Re: VFO not complimentary about NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

Oh come on. I’ve not ben using freedom rash tiva's products now for 8 years and I’m quite happy with it. I do talk to employers though and they say I either use jaws or nothing at all, they don’t want to install nvda on their systems. I explain what it is, and even my services here don’t want to deal with nvda even though i’ve brought it up. They don’t like open source. I wish that people would quit using freedom trash tiva’s stuff and switch to nvda, it is over all the best experience and getting better on a daily basis.

On Jul 18, 2018, at 8:33 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

I have just listened to the latest issue of Techtalk from the RNIB in the uk on Audioboom, and there is an interview with the software man at VFO about what they sell and future plans, and the guy asked him about NVDA Though not actually trashing it, he used that old ploy that one of the programmers has now left to go to Mozilla and nobody will install NVDA in a business system because its open source etc. anyway, go and have a listen and see what you think. I guess his job is to big up his own company, but I noticed, dear old Dolphin never even got mentioned!
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Re: Lost the pound sign

Sarah k Alawami
 

Pound is number sign. So you did not lose it.

On Jul 18, 2018, at 7:18 AM, Sakina <sakina.gable@...> wrote:

Dear Gene and friends,
Thank you for your help regarding adding new email address in my people app.
I am sorry for I am not too clever and am still trying to figure it out. Sadly, I do not have many addresses and therefore would be happy doing it manually.
For now I am cutting and pasting the address in the to field.
Now today please I have lost my pound sign in my word document. I always used to press shift key and press number 3 for the pound sign.
Now when I press shift key and number 3 it keeps saying number.
I do not know what I must have pressed accidently on the key board   as I am one hundred % user of keyboard and do not know  what to do.
I will greatly appreciate any help.
Always thanking you all
Sakina
 
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Re: Lost the pound sign

Antony Stone
 

I am not suggesting that your keyboard itself has changed - I suggested that
what your computer thinks the layout of the keyboard is has changed.

My girlfriend regularly uses a computer whigh has a UK keyboard, but Windows
is deliberately set to German keyboard layout, so she gets the German symbols
when she presses keys which happen to have something else written on the
keytops. Being blind, she doesn't care what's written on the keytops, and
neither does the computer - it just thinks "I've been told I have a German
keyboard layout, therefore those are the symbols you get when you press keys".

I ask again, what do you get when you press shift-2?

Double quotation marks would indicate a UK layout; at-sign would indicate a US
layout.


Regards,


Antony.

On Wednesday 18 July 2018 at 16:42:10, Sakina wrote:

Friend,
For 7 years I have been using the same keyboard. It I am sure is not US
keyboard. Since last night, it always did the proper action.
When I just want letter 3 it gave and still gives letter 3
And used to with shift key give me # pound sign
But now when I need pound sign instead it says number.
Sakina
Letter 3 by itself.
--
Why is "dylexia" so difficult to spell, and why can I never remember "aphasia"
when I want to?

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Re: Lost the pound sign

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I'd not know how this could be changed accidentally. Would she be likely to have system restore on and be able to go back to a couple of days ago, or is it off in 10 by default. Even then, I'm not sure it has any effect on the installed keyboard language. i have had issues in the past with word deciding to use American english templates for documents for no good reason which really fouls up the spell checker big time!

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Antony Stone" <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Lost the pound sign


It sounds like your computer has switched from thinking it has a UK keyboard
layout (which has a pound sign on shift-3) to a US layout (which has a hash
symbol on shift-3, and is often read as "number").

To confirm this, what do you get by pressing shift-2?

A UK layout will give you double quote marks; a US layout will give you an
"at" sign.


Antony.

On Wednesday 18 July 2018 at 16:18:29, Sakina wrote:

Dear Gene and friends,
Thank you for your help regarding adding new email address in my people
app. I am sorry for I am not too clever and am still trying to figure it
out. Sadly, I do not have many addresses and therefore would be happy
doing it manually. For now I am cutting and pasting the address in the to
field.
Now today please I have lost my pound sign in my word document. I always
used to press shift key and press number 3 for the pound sign. Now when I
press shift key and number 3 it keeps saying number.
I do not know what I must have pressed accidently on the key board as I
am one hundred % user of keyboard and do not know what to do. I will
greatly appreciate any help.
Always thanking you all
Sakina
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If you were ploughing a field, which would you rather use - two strong oxen or
1024 chickens?

- Seymour Cray, pioneer of supercomputing

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