My issue and my only issue with product activation licences in general is the fact that depending how they are constructed ie eloquence, that you have to deactivate it on each major update, thats fine in reality however because there is a 6 month basically new os update it gets a bit well annoying there should be a way to assign a licence to your machine or in the case of win10 an account or something.

And it doesn't have to be like that.

For example windows manages to stay activated on each system update.

Mostly.

Then again maybe its not happened to me.

I have had on my cloud system I admin to reactivate the icloud and some other accounts whenever I update my bios for example but still everything stays up.

I also have issues where machines and licences have a 3 unit limit, in a bit of software I use for dvd extraction, you assign your machine to an id from an account online, if that changes you have to reassign that machine to the single id but at least you can do it yourself as many times as you need.




On 7/18/2018 6:52 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

Yes I'm sure you know that several attempts were made by nv access to have a licence system that was not too onerous, but no. I do think myself, that its rubbish but acknowledge a lot find it good. it obviously is a personal thing.
I to do  agree that modern voices are unintelligible at fast, even moderate speeds.

I as you know made the variant Quincy for UK English espeak and am happy with it in the main if they would stop mucking about with words that sounded right before. However I do also feel that the speech player in Espeak project was very good and I'd like to see somebody take this up again to make it better for the US market. One has to realise at the moment though that the biggest growth area for nvda is the Indian Subcontinent, and maybe other languages than English.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@comproom.co.uk>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] possible eloquence solution


Why should they do this?  You’re effectively stopping Code Factory from making money.  Just buy Eloquence and be done with it. Besides, Microsoft wouldn’t maintain it.



All the best


Steve



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: 17 July 2018 13:11
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] possible eloquence solution



It seems like unless this problem is solved it will keep coming up. So I just went into feedback hub and I recommend all of you do the same. I wrote the following feedback to Microsoft.

Please purchase all rites to CodeFactory Nuance Eloquence TTS. Offer it as a free downloadable sapi5 and OneCore voice addons under ease of access in windows10. And on the Microsoft website as sapi5 for windows7 users. Also please maintain the android version so it keeps working and perhaps lower the price to $2 or $3. Nuance CodeFactory licenses are too restrictive. Adding Eloquence to microsoft’s voice portfolio would benefit those with hearing impairments. So if Microsoft owned it, whenever you buy a copy of windows or a new pc, you also pay for the rite to use eloquence on any pc you buy.and if you don’t want it, you just do not go into ease of access and download it. Nuance copyright is stuck back in the 80s and early 90s and has to change. If not, this issue will probably keep cropping up.





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.

Hello Ibrahim,

To remove a website from your favorites, in the favorites bar after
pressing Alt+A, locate the favorite you would like to delete in the
menu. Pressing the Delete key on your keyboard should delete the
favorite from the list.

With regards to Internet Explorer History, you can access this
information by pressing control+H. This will show a tree view, where
you can expand and collapse the items by using the right and left
arrow keys. Using up and down arrows will allow you to view the
websites in this expanded menu, or take you to other collapsed date
categories. To open one of these websites, press the enter key.
Alternatively, to return to the page you were on prior to opening the
history, press control+H.

Hope this helps,

Ethan

On 7/18/18, Ibrahim Ajayi <kobisko@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello:
Please I just want to know how to remove saved weebsites from my
favorites menu. I can't find any option in the add to favorites
dialog to remove them.
So, how can I go about removing them.
Secondly, how can one acess history on internet explorer. Unlike what
you have in firefox, in which there is a history menu, there is
nothing like that in IE. But I hear there is such a menu. Where can
I find it. Or how can it be accessed.
Kind regards.
From Ibrahim.

I brought that up  at the jobs I work for and they just say either use jaws or don’t work for us. It’s not fair really. And the blindness organizations don’t really care anyway. They are just there for the money, or lck thereof.

On Jul 18, 2018, at 9:40 AM, Sky Mundell <skyt@...> wrote:

Yes there are deliberate lies going on with those blind organisations about alternative products. What they fail to take into account is that there are cutbacks going on in education, employment, and funding can only go so far. Not only that, but when the cutbacks begin to bite, these organisations will be forced to seek out cheaper things such as NVDA. At that point, they may go with NVDA. What also surprises me is that VFO hasn't even put up their prices yet!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of mikolaj holysz
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 9:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] VFO not complimentary about NVDA

Same thing happens over here, in POland. Altix, the local distributor of 
JAWS, has recently released a series of articles about Jamie leaving NV 
Access for Mozilla even though he did this a long time ago and about all 
the features NVDA doesn't have and JAWS does. I've even heart accounts 
of people who were told by altix representatives that NVDA is dangerous 
to their computers and that it might fry their motherboards, though I 
don't know if those who retold the story were speaking the truth or 
merely exaggerating.

This seems like pressure from Freedom Scientific to promote JAWS.

W dniu 2018-07-18 o 17:33, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io pisze:

I have just listened to the latest issue of Techtalk from the RNIB in 
the uk on Audioboom, and there is an interview with the software man at 
VFO about what they sell and future plans, and the guy asked him about 
NVDA Though not actually  trashing it, he used that old ploy that one of 
the programmers has now left to go to Mozilla and nobody will install 
NVDA in a business system because its open source etc. anyway, go and 
have a listen and see what you think. I guess his job is to big up his 
own company, but I noticed, dear old Dolphin never even got mentioned!
Brian

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Hello:

Please I'll like to find out how I can remove saved websites from the

favorites menu of IE.  I cannot find any option to remove it in the

add to favoirtes dialog box.  So, how can I go about removing this

unwanted websites.

Secondly, how can I find or access the history menu on IE.  Unlike

what you have on firefox, where you have a history menu just before

bookmarks, there is no such thing on IE.  I am made to understand that

there is a history menu on IE.  Please where can I find or access it.

Kind regards.

Ibrahim.

Hitting windows+spacebar will change keyboard language
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*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Lost the pound sign
I'd not know how this could be changed accidentally. Would she be likely to
have system restore on and be able to go back to a couple of days ago, or is
it off in 10 by default. Even then, I'm not sure it has any effect on the
installed keyboard language. i have had issues in the past with word
deciding to use American english templates for documents for no good reason
which really fouls up the spell checker big time!
Brian
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Antony Stone" <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Lost the pound sign

> It sounds like your computer has switched from thinking it has a UK

> keyboard

> layout (which has a pound sign on shift-3) to a US layout (which has a

> hash

> symbol on shift-3, and is often read as "number").

>

> To confirm this, what do you get by pressing shift-2?

>

> A UK layout will give you double quote marks; a US layout will give
you an

> "at" sign.

>

>

> Antony.

>

> On Wednesday 18 July 2018 at 16:18:29, Sakina wrote:

>

>> Dear Gene and friends,

>> Thank you for your help regarding adding new email address in my people

>> app. I am sorry for I am not too clever and am still trying to figure it

>> out. Sadly, I do not have many addresses and therefore would be happy

>> doing it manually. For now I am cutting and pasting the address in
the to

>> field.

>> Now today please I have lost my pound sign in my word document. I always

>> used to press shift key and press number 3 for the pound sign. Now
when I

>> press shift key and number 3 it keeps saying number.

>> I do not know what I must have pressed accidently on the key board
as I

>> am one hundred % user of keyboard and do not know  what to do. I will

>> greatly appreciate any help.

>> Always thanking you all

>> Sakina

>

> --

> If you were ploughing a field, which would you rather use - two strong

> oxen or

> 1024 chickens?

>

> - Seymour Cray, pioneer of supercomputing

>

>                                                   Please reply to the

> list;

>                                                         please
*don't* CC

> me.

>

>

>

Hello:
Please I just want to know how to remove saved weebsites from my
favorites menu. I can't find any option in the add to favorites
dialog to remove them.
So, how can I go about removing them.
Secondly, how can one acess history on internet explorer. Unlike what
you have in firefox, in which there is a history menu, there is
nothing like that in IE. But I hear there is such a menu. Where can
I find it. Or how can it be accessed.
Kind regards.
From Ibrahim.

That’s great Devin!

The assistive tech department here teaches NVDA, and other low-cost solutions, although iPhone is still taught for blind people, but Android is used by many low-vision people.

The assistive tech department here teaches NVDA, and other low-cost solutions, although iPhone is still taught for blind people, but Android is used by many low-vision people.

On Jul 18, 2018, at 11:40 AM, Sky Mundell <skyt@...> wrote:

Yes there are deliberate lies going on with those blind organisations about alternative products. What they fail to take into account is that there are cutbacks going on in education, employment, and funding can only go so far. Not only that, but when the cutbacks begin to bite, these organisations will be forced to seek out cheaper things such as NVDA. At that point, they may go with NVDA. What also surprises me is that VFO hasn't even put up their prices yet!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of mikolaj holysz
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 9:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] VFO not complimentary about NVDA

Same thing happens over here, in POland. Altix, the local distributor of 
JAWS, has recently released a series of articles about Jamie leaving NV 
Access for Mozilla even though he did this a long time ago and about all 
the features NVDA doesn't have and JAWS does. I've even heart accounts 
of people who were told by altix representatives that NVDA is dangerous 
to their computers and that it might fry their motherboards, though I 
don't know if those who retold the story were speaking the truth or 
merely exaggerating.

This seems like pressure from Freedom Scientific to promote JAWS.

W dniu 2018-07-18 o 17:33, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io pisze:

I have just listened to the latest issue of Techtalk from the RNIB in 
the uk on Audioboom, and there is an interview with the software man at 
VFO about what they sell and future plans, and the guy asked him about 
NVDA Though not actually  trashing it, he used that old ploy that one of 
the programmers has now left to go to Mozilla and nobody will install 
NVDA in a business system because its open source etc. anyway, go and 
have a listen and see what you think. I guess his job is to big up his 
own company, but I noticed, dear old Dolphin never even got mentioned!
Brian

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I'd not know how this could be changed accidentally. Would she be likely to

have system restore on and be able to go back to a couple of days ago, or is

it off in 10 by default. Even then, I'm not sure it has any effect on the

installed keyboard language. i have had issues in the past with word

deciding to use American english templates for documents for no good reason

which really fouls up the spell checker big time!

Brian

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----- Original Message -----

From: "Antony Stone" <antony.stone@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 3:29 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Lost the pound sign

> It sounds like your computer has switched from thinking it has a UK

> keyboard

> layout (which has a pound sign on shift-3) to a US layout (which has a

> hash

> symbol on shift-3, and is often read as "number").

> 

> To confirm this, what do you get by pressing shift-2?

> 

> A UK layout will give you double quote marks; a US layout will give you an

> "at" sign.

> 

> 

> Antony.

> 

> On Wednesday 18 July 2018 at 16:18:29, Sakina wrote:

> 

>> Dear Gene and friends,

>> Thank you for your help regarding adding new email address in my people

>> app. I am sorry for I am not too clever and am still trying to figure it

>> out. Sadly, I do not have many addresses and therefore would be happy

>> doing it manually. For now I am cutting and pasting the address in the to

>> field.

>> Now today please I have lost my pound sign in my word document. I always

>> used to press shift key and press number 3 for the pound sign. Now when I

>> press shift key and number 3 it keeps saying number.

>> I do not know what I must have pressed accidently on the key board   as I

>> am one hundred % user of keyboard and do not know  what to do. I will

>> greatly appreciate any help.

>> Always thanking you all

>> Sakina

> 

> --

> If you were ploughing a field, which would you rather use - two strong

> oxen or

> 1024 chickens?

> 

> - Seymour Cray, pioneer of supercomputing

> 

>                                                   Please reply to the

> list;

>                                                         please *don't* CC

> me.

> 

>

>

Friend,

For 7 years I have been using the same keyboard. It I am sure is not US keyboard.

Since last night, it always did the proper action.

When I just want letter 3 it gave and still gives letter 3

And used to with shift key give me # pound sign

But now when I need pound sign instead it says number.

Sakina

Letter 3 by itself.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

That’s odd, mine says pound sign as it should

I guess you are using US keyboard layout rather than the UK keyboard

When the computer says the word number in that situation it means the pound sign

I have just listened to the latest issue of Techtalk from the RNIB in
the uk on Audioboom, and there is an interview with the software man at
VFO about what they sell and future plans, and the guy asked him about
NVDA Though not actually trashing it, he used that old ploy that one of
the programmers has now left to go to Mozilla and nobody will install
NVDA in a business system because its open source etc. anyway, go and
have a listen and see what you think. I guess his job is to big up his
own company, but I noticed, dear old Dolphin never even got mentioned!
Brian

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Oh come on. I’ve not ben using freedom rash tiva's products now for 8 years and I’m quite happy with it. I do talk to employers though and they say I either use jaws or nothing at all, they don’t want to install nvda on their systems. I explain what it is, and even my services here don’t want to deal with nvda even though i’ve brought it up. They don’t like open source. I wish that people would quit using freedom trash tiva’s stuff and switch to nvda, it is over all the best experience and getting better on a daily basis.

On Jul 18, 2018, at 8:33 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

I have just listened to the latest issue of Techtalk from the RNIB in the uk on Audioboom, and there is an interview with the software man at VFO about what they sell and future plans, and the guy asked him about NVDA Though not actually trashing it, he used that old ploy that one of the programmers has now left to go to Mozilla and nobody will install NVDA in a business system because its open source etc. anyway, go and have a listen and see what you think. I guess his job is to big up his own company, but I noticed, dear old Dolphin never even got mentioned!
Brian

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Pound is number sign. So you did not lose it.

I have just listened to the latest issue of Techtalk from the RNIB in
the uk on Audioboom, and there is an interview with the software man
at VFO about what they sell and future plans, and the guy asked him
about NVDA Though not actually trashing it, he used that old ploy
that one of the programmers has now left to go to Mozilla and nobody
will install NVDA in a business system because its open source etc.
anyway, go and have a listen and see what you think. I guess his job
is to big up his own company, but I noticed, dear old Dolphin never even got mentioned!
Brian

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Same thing happens over here, in POland. Altix, the local distributor of JAWS, has recently released a series of articles about Jamie leaving NV Access for Mozilla even though he did this a long time ago and about all the features NVDA doesn't have and JAWS does. I've even heart accounts of people who were told by altix representatives that NVDA is dangerous to their computers and that it might fry their motherboards, though I don't know if those who retold the story were speaking the truth or merely exaggerating.

This seems like pressure from Freedom Scientific to promote JAWS.

W dniu 2018-07-18 o 17:33, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io pisze:

I have just listened to the latest issue of Techtalk from the RNIB in the uk on Audioboom, and there is an interview with the software man at VFO about what they sell and future plans, and the guy asked him about NVDA Though not actually  trashing it, he used that old ploy that one of the programmers has now left to go to Mozilla and nobody will install NVDA in a business system because its open source etc. anyway, go and have a listen and see what you think. I guess his job is to big up his own company, but I noticed, dear old Dolphin never even got mentioned!
Brian

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