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Joseph Lee's add-ons updated: Enhanced Touch Gestures 18.06, Golden Cursor 3.0, Windows 10 App Essentials 18.06 broad deployment #addonrelese

 

Hi everyone,

 

In about half an hour from now, you’ll be able to download three add-on releases that’ll (absolutely) require NVDA 2018.2 or later:

 

  • Enhanced Touch Gestures 18.06: add-on settings can be found in new multi-category NVDA Settings under “Enhanced Touch Gestures” category.
  • Golden Cursor 3.0: same as above but the category to look for is “Golden Cursor”.
  • Windows 10 App Essentials: version 18.06 stable is now available to everyone. For those using 18.05.3, you’ll have until June 20, 2018 to update to 18.06, by which time the temporary update channel will be gone along with release of 18.06.1.

 

Also, for those using Windows 10 App Essentials development snapshots: regular and pilot builds are now united. This means, going forward, anyone wishing to use development snapshots MUST be running NVDA 2018.2 stable or later. Also, you’ll need to be running Windows 10 Version 1709 (build 16299) or later in order to receive future add-on builds.

 

Cheers,

Joseph


NVDA 2018.2 is now available!

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

Well, if you read my In-Process blog post earlier today and it left you salivating and demanding to know when we would finally release NVDA 2018.2, salivate no more!  NVDA 2018.2 is now available!

See the full announcement here:


NV Access is pleased to announce that version 2018.2 of NVDA, the free screen reader for Microsoft Windows, has now been released.

Highlights of this release include Support for tables in Kindle for PC, support for HumanWare BrailleNote Touch and BI14 Braille displays, Improvements to both Onecore and Sapi5 speech synthesizers, improvements in Microsoft Outlook and much more.

This award-winning software has been changing the lives of thousands of blind and vision impaired people who can now independently use computers to produce written content, read news, socialise, shop and bank online, and, most importantly, actively participate in education and employment. Please consider helping NV Access to continue this important work by becoming a monthly donor.




--
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Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Inquiry about release date of nvda2018.2.

Quentin Christensen
 

Well, NVDA 2018.2 is now out, so let me know how you go with that :)


On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 4:32 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:
This this file is not normally downloaded is quite a pain as snaps change all the time I end up having to find the checkbox and uncheck it as it affects most things I download. There is also some oddity sometimes when a page redirects as well as having a different file name that ends up in only a partial download, at least in firefox and waterfox. I know often people need to be protected from themselves but I do also think that if you are on a reputable site you should not get all this hassle.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 12:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Inquiry about release date of nvda2018.2.


Are you sure Symantec thinks it is a virus, and if so, which one?  Symantec
is listing the file as clean on VirusTotal, so I'm not sure whether it is
using a newer or older version than yours.

I know Windows Defender will recommend blocking downloadable executables
which haven't been downloaded many times - you often notice this if you are
one of the first to download a new build of NVDA for instance.  Could
Symantec be doing something similar?

I just got Virus Total to rescan the file and I notice now that Anity is
also coming up clean - I wrote to them last night to report the false
positive.

https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/1f8b180bc955bf59d21840bb79701372ea3b4563e57ec07d2b7ae231e83517ff/analysis/1528845976/

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 11:23 PM, Michael Chopra <michaelchopra38@...>
wrote:

 Hi. It’s definitely Rc 3.
Thanks.
From Michael.

<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
------------------------------
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Quentin
Christensen <quentin@...>
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 12, 2018 10:00:16 PM

*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Inquiry about release date of nvda2018.2.


Hi Michael,

Was it RC1 or 2 then?  As I'm not seeing it with RC3?

The way AV programs work, or one way at least, is they look for
"signatures" of known viruses.  Each virus tends to have a group of bytes
that distinguishes it from other programs - in the same way, if you wanted,
you could probably go through a library and pick say the first sentence out
of each book.  You could then bring in a new book without a cover, compare
the first sentence against your list of known sentences, and decide whether
it matched anything you'd seen before.

Occasionally you might get two books that have the same first sentence,
and so one might be misidentified as the other.  It basically works exactly
the same way with viruses.  Because it is just a string of characters, they
could appear in other programs, and occasionally do, that is how false
positives occur.

So, when we built rc2 (or 1?) it just happened that the exact sequence of
characters appeared in our setup file as must appear in some virus.  It's
something that Symantec have to update in their database, and once I know
which build I can let them know - they have a set process for letting them
know about false positives.  They'll then double check our file, confirm
with what else they know about that virus that it definitely is a false
positive and then update their definition list, and that will go out the
next time they send out an update (usually in a day or so).

For now, RC3 seems ok so you should be able to download and run that if
needed.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 7:17 PM, Michael Chopra <michaelchopra38@...
> wrote:

 Hi. As far as I understand, it is flagging the release candidate
versions. I am not sure about the snapshot builds, as I have not downloaded
any of them.  With this issue, is it something that you have to sort out or
is it for Symantec?
Thanks.
From Michael.

<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
------------------------------
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Quentin
Christensen <quentin@...>
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 12, 2018 8:53:11 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io

*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Inquiry about release date of nvda2018.2.


Hi Michael,

No problem at all, we're transparent here.  Thanks for the heads-up!  Can
you advise which version is being flagged?  Is it 2018.1.1 (on the main
download page), NVDA 2018.2rc3 (the current release candidate) or one of
the snapshot or other builds?

I just ran a couple of builds through VirusTotal:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/ - they run any file or site you specify
through many of the reputable and unknown AV scanners and tell you what
comes back positive

RC3 is being flagged by something called  "Antiy-AVL" that I've never
heard of, as "Trojan/Win32.AGeneric".  If I can figure out who they are,
I'll write to them.

Symantec is happy with the RC as far as I can see.

NVDA 2018.1.1 is coming up clean on everything.

I tried nvda_snapshot_next-15180,4479f3ab.exe which I had lying around
from the 7th of June and it came back clean.

As Brian noted, one AV or another will flag programs from time to time.
The easiest way to allay any fears is to check whether other reputable AV
programs which also detect whatever it was also detect it.  In the case of
Trojan/Win32.AGeneric, it's a bit hard, as it's simply claiming it looks
like a generic trojan, without actually have the "signature" of any known
virus.

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 6:13 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

This sort of thing seems to occur with many pieces of software from time
to time though. I would hope that feedback to the company would immediately
prompt them to put in an exception for it. There was a similar issue over a
password manager a while back I seem to remember.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Chopra" <
michaelchopra38@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 5:37 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Inquiry about release date of nvda2018.2.


Hi Quentin and all. Are you aware that NVDA is being treated as a virus
by Symantec endpoint protection? It just deletes the file and does not
let me do anything with it. It's probably not the best place to bring
this up, but I thought I would let you know.

Thanks.

From Michael.


On 12/06/18 16:30, Quentin Christensen wrote:

We released NVDA 2018.2rc3 the other day:
https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2018-2rc3-released/

So, the final version should be out within a week or so, unless
anything big is found.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 1:26 PM, Angaragerdene
<b.angaragerdene@... <mailto:b.angaragerdene@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Hi guys:
    Is there any set date for nvda 2018.2 to release? Couldn't find
    it anywhere.






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess













--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess










--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Inquiry about release date of nvda2018.2.

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

This this file is not normally downloaded is quite a pain as snaps change all the time I end up having to find the checkbox and uncheck it as it affects most things I download. There is also some oddity sometimes when a page redirects as well as having a different file name that ends up in only a partial download, at least in firefox and waterfox. I know often people need to be protected from themselves but I do also think that if you are on a reputable site you should not get all this hassle.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 12:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Inquiry about release date of nvda2018.2.


Are you sure Symantec thinks it is a virus, and if so, which one? Symantec
is listing the file as clean on VirusTotal, so I'm not sure whether it is
using a newer or older version than yours.

I know Windows Defender will recommend blocking downloadable executables
which haven't been downloaded many times - you often notice this if you are
one of the first to download a new build of NVDA for instance. Could
Symantec be doing something similar?

I just got Virus Total to rescan the file and I notice now that Anity is
also coming up clean - I wrote to them last night to report the false
positive.

https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/1f8b180bc955bf59d21840bb79701372ea3b4563e57ec07d2b7ae231e83517ff/analysis/1528845976/

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 11:23 PM, Michael Chopra <@Mich240>
wrote:

Hi. It’s definitely Rc 3.
Thanks.
From Michael.

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
------------------------------
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Quentin
Christensen <quentin@...>
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 12, 2018 10:00:16 PM

*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Inquiry about release date of nvda2018.2.

Hi Michael,

Was it RC1 or 2 then? As I'm not seeing it with RC3?

The way AV programs work, or one way at least, is they look for
"signatures" of known viruses. Each virus tends to have a group of bytes
that distinguishes it from other programs - in the same way, if you wanted,
you could probably go through a library and pick say the first sentence out
of each book. You could then bring in a new book without a cover, compare
the first sentence against your list of known sentences, and decide whether
it matched anything you'd seen before.

Occasionally you might get two books that have the same first sentence,
and so one might be misidentified as the other. It basically works exactly
the same way with viruses. Because it is just a string of characters, they
could appear in other programs, and occasionally do, that is how false
positives occur.

So, when we built rc2 (or 1?) it just happened that the exact sequence of
characters appeared in our setup file as must appear in some virus. It's
something that Symantec have to update in their database, and once I know
which build I can let them know - they have a set process for letting them
know about false positives. They'll then double check our file, confirm
with what else they know about that virus that it definitely is a false
positive and then update their definition list, and that will go out the
next time they send out an update (usually in a day or so).

For now, RC3 seems ok so you should be able to download and run that if
needed.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 7:17 PM, Michael Chopra <@Mich240
wrote:
Hi. As far as I understand, it is flagging the release candidate
versions. I am not sure about the snapshot builds, as I have not downloaded
any of them. With this issue, is it something that you have to sort out or
is it for Symantec?
Thanks.
From Michael.

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
------------------------------
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Quentin
Christensen <quentin@...>
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 12, 2018 8:53:11 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io

*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Inquiry about release date of nvda2018.2.

Hi Michael,

No problem at all, we're transparent here. Thanks for the heads-up! Can
you advise which version is being flagged? Is it 2018.1.1 (on the main
download page), NVDA 2018.2rc3 (the current release candidate) or one of
the snapshot or other builds?

I just ran a couple of builds through VirusTotal:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/ - they run any file or site you specify
through many of the reputable and unknown AV scanners and tell you what
comes back positive

RC3 is being flagged by something called "Antiy-AVL" that I've never
heard of, as "Trojan/Win32.AGeneric". If I can figure out who they are,
I'll write to them.

Symantec is happy with the RC as far as I can see.

NVDA 2018.1.1 is coming up clean on everything.

I tried nvda_snapshot_next-15180,4479f3ab.exe which I had lying around
from the 7th of June and it came back clean.

As Brian noted, one AV or another will flag programs from time to time.
The easiest way to allay any fears is to check whether other reputable AV
programs which also detect whatever it was also detect it. In the case of
Trojan/Win32.AGeneric, it's a bit hard, as it's simply claiming it looks
like a generic trojan, without actually have the "signature" of any known
virus.

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 6:13 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

This sort of thing seems to occur with many pieces of software from time
to time though. I would hope that feedback to the company would immediately
prompt them to put in an exception for it. There was a similar issue over a
password manager a while back I seem to remember.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Chopra" <
@Mich240>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 5:37 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Inquiry about release date of nvda2018.2.


Hi Quentin and all. Are you aware that NVDA is being treated as a virus
by Symantec endpoint protection? It just deletes the file and does not
let me do anything with it. It's probably not the best place to bring
this up, but I thought I would let you know.

Thanks.

From Michael.


On 12/06/18 16:30, Quentin Christensen wrote:

We released NVDA 2018.2rc3 the other day:
https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2018-2rc3-released/

So, the final version should be out within a week or so, unless
anything big is found.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 1:26 PM, Angaragerdene
<b.angaragerdene@... <mailto:b.angaragerdene@...>> wrote:

Hi guys:
Is there any set date for nvda 2018.2 to release? Couldn't find
it anywhere.






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess







--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess


--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess


In-Process available

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

In-Process is out, this time featuring a wrap-up of NVDACon and lots of information about the latest NVDA 2018.2rc3 release candidate.


Fear not, the final NVDA 2018.2 won't be too far away either :)

Quentin.

--
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Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: ++OFFTOPIC++ How to unsubscribe?

Gene
 

It may be that the verification message is in a spam folder either in your computer or a spam filter your provider keeps for your account online.
 
If it isn't or you don't know how to check again, check the footers of a message you received or check whatever information you got in a welcome message.  One of the things in the footers of most list mail is a way to contact the list owner.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] ++OFFTOPIC++ How to unsubscribe?

Yes, I did it.
But as I said, following the steps gave me no results...
Em 12/06/2018 20:58, Gene escreveu:
Did you get a welcome message when you subscribed?  You should usually get a message when you join lists with information such as how to unsubscribe.  You should keep such messages from every list that sends you one.  Also, most lists have information at the bottom of every message you receive with links for unsubscribing and often for doing other things such as going no mail as well.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 6:44 PM
Subject: [nvda] ++OFFTOPIC++ How to unsubscribe?

Hello guys,
First, let me excuse by the offtopics. This is the second that I post,
but I swear it will be the last time.
Some days ago someone sent an email telling how to subscribe to the list
Blind-X. Well, I did it, because I was interested in the list, obviously.
The problem is: I'm there for 1 day and I have a feeling that I won't be
able to read all of these emails.
So, my question: how I unsubscribe it?
I tried to follow the steps received by the listserv,but had no results.

Again, sorry for the offtopic and thanks in advance.

Marcio




Re: ++OFFTOPIC++ How to unsubscribe?

 

Yes, I did it.
But as I said, following the steps gave me no results...
Em 12/06/2018 20:58, Gene escreveu:

Did you get a welcome message when you subscribed?  You should usually get a message when you join lists with information such as how to unsubscribe.  You should keep such messages from every list that sends you one.  Also, most lists have information at the bottom of every message you receive with links for unsubscribing and often for doing other things such as going no mail as well.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 6:44 PM
Subject: [nvda] ++OFFTOPIC++ How to unsubscribe?

Hello guys,
First, let me excuse by the offtopics. This is the second that I post,
but I swear it will be the last time.
Some days ago someone sent an email telling how to subscribe to the list
Blind-X. Well, I did it, because I was interested in the list, obviously.
The problem is: I'm there for 1 day and I have a feeling that I won't be
able to read all of these emails.
So, my question: how I unsubscribe it?
I tried to follow the steps received by the listserv,but had no results.

Again, sorry for the offtopic and thanks in advance.

Marcio




Re: ++OFFTOPIC++ How to unsubscribe?

 

Presuming that this is the Blind-X list that one subscribes to via sending an e-mail message to listserv@...  [listserv at maelstrom dot stjohns dot edu],  one can unsubscribe by sending a message to said address with the subject blank and the message body reading: 
        unsubscribe blind-x
from the e-mail address you used to subscribe.  I would imagine that there exist options to get daily digests instead of individual messages, but I can't find that with a quick web search.
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Re: ++OFFTOPIC++ How to unsubscribe?

Gene
 

Did you get a welcome message when you subscribed?  You should usually get a message when you join lists with information such as how to unsubscribe.  You should keep such messages from every list that sends you one.  Also, most lists have information at the bottom of every message you receive with links for unsubscribing and often for doing other things such as going no mail as well.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 6:44 PM
Subject: [nvda] ++OFFTOPIC++ How to unsubscribe?

Hello guys,
First, let me excuse by the offtopics. This is the second that I post,
but I swear it will be the last time.
Some days ago someone sent an email telling how to subscribe to the list
Blind-X. Well, I did it, because I was interested in the list, obviously.
The problem is: I'm there for 1 day and I have a feeling that I won't be
able to read all of these emails.
So, my question: how I unsubscribe it?
I tried to follow the steps received by the listserv,but had no results.

Again, sorry for the offtopic and thanks in advance.

Marcio



++OFFTOPIC++ How to unsubscribe?

 

Hello guys,
First, let me excuse by the offtopics. This is the second that I post, but I swear it will be the last time.
Some days ago someone sent an email telling how to subscribe to the list Blind-X. Well, I did it, because I was interested in the list, obviously.
The problem is: I'm there for 1 day and I have a feeling that I won't be able to read all of these emails.
So, my question: how I unsubscribe it?
I tried to follow the steps received by the listserv,but had no results.

Again, sorry for the offtopic and thanks in advance.

Marcio


Re: Inquiry about release date of nvda2018.2.

Quentin Christensen
 

Are you sure Symantec thinks it is a virus, and if so, which one?  Symantec is listing the file as clean on VirusTotal, so I'm not sure whether it is using a newer or older version than yours.

I know Windows Defender will recommend blocking downloadable executables which haven't been downloaded many times - you often notice this if you are one of the first to download a new build of NVDA for instance.  Could Symantec be doing something similar?

I just got Virus Total to rescan the file and I notice now that Anity is also coming up clean - I wrote to them last night to report the false positive.


Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 11:23 PM, Michael Chopra <michaelchopra38@...> wrote:
 Hi. It’s definitely Rc 3.
Thanks.
From Michael.  


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Quentin Christensen <quentin@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 10:00:16 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Inquiry about release date of nvda2018.2.
 
Hi Michael,

Was it RC1 or 2 then?  As I'm not seeing it with RC3?

The way AV programs work, or one way at least, is they look for "signatures" of known viruses.  Each virus tends to have a group of bytes that distinguishes it from other programs - in the same way, if you wanted, you could probably go through a library and pick say the first sentence out of each book.  You could then bring in a new book without a cover, compare the first sentence against your list of known sentences, and decide whether it matched anything you'd seen before.

Occasionally you might get two books that have the same first sentence, and so one might be misidentified as the other.  It basically works exactly the same way with viruses.  Because it is just a string of characters, they could appear in other programs, and occasionally do, that is how false positives occur.

So, when we built rc2 (or 1?) it just happened that the exact sequence of characters appeared in our setup file as must appear in some virus.  It's something that Symantec have to update in their database, and once I know which build I can let them know - they have a set process for letting them know about false positives.  They'll then double check our file, confirm with what else they know about that virus that it definitely is a false positive and then update their definition list, and that will go out the next time they send out an update (usually in a day or so).

For now, RC3 seems ok so you should be able to download and run that if needed.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 7:17 PM, Michael Chopra <michaelchopra38@...> wrote:
 Hi. As far as I understand, it is flagging the release candidate versions. I am not sure about the snapshot builds, as I have not downloaded any of them.  With this issue, is it something that you have to sort out or is it for Symantec?
Thanks.
From Michael.  


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Quentin Christensen <quentin@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 8:53:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Inquiry about release date of nvda2018.2.
 
Hi Michael,

No problem at all, we're transparent here.  Thanks for the heads-up!  Can you advise which version is being flagged?  Is it 2018.1.1 (on the main download page), NVDA 2018.2rc3 (the current release candidate) or one of the snapshot or other builds?

I just ran a couple of builds through VirusTotal: https://www.virustotal.com/en/ - they run any file or site you specify through many of the reputable and unknown AV scanners and tell you what comes back positive

RC3 is being flagged by something called  "Antiy-AVL" that I've never heard of, as "Trojan/Win32.AGeneric".  If I can figure out who they are, I'll write to them.

Symantec is happy with the RC as far as I can see.

NVDA 2018.1.1 is coming up clean on everything.

I tried nvda_snapshot_next-15180,4479f3ab.exe which I had lying around from the 7th of June and it came back clean.

As Brian noted, one AV or another will flag programs from time to time.  The easiest way to allay any fears is to check whether other reputable AV programs which also detect whatever it was also detect it.  In the case of Trojan/Win32.AGeneric, it's a bit hard, as it's simply claiming it looks like a generic trojan, without actually have the "signature" of any known virus.

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 6:13 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
This sort of thing seems to occur with many pieces of software from time to time though. I would hope that feedback to the company would immediately prompt them to put in an exception for it. There was a similar issue over a password manager a while back I seem to remember.
Brian

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Inquiry about release date of nvda2018.2.


Hi Quentin and all. Are you aware that NVDA is being treated as a virus
by Symantec endpoint protection? It just deletes the file and does not
let me do anything with it. It's probably not the best place to bring
this up, but I thought I would let you know.

Thanks.

From Michael.


On 12/06/18 16:30, Quentin Christensen wrote:
We released NVDA 2018.2rc3 the other day:
https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2018-2rc3-released/

So, the final version should be out within a week or so, unless
anything big is found.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 1:26 PM, Angaragerdene
<b.angaragerdene@... <mailto:b.angaragerdene@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Hi guys:
    Is there any set date for nvda 2018.2 to release? Couldn't find
    it anywhere.






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Re: how can i set nvda that never announce graphic graphic out of graphic?

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Plus it could have a strange side effect like in a document the word not be spoken. But on the web say if done you will not hear the word graphic spoken  but i guess this is what some want.


Gene nz



On 6/13/2018 5:49 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Anthony,


I'm not the one who's asking about turning off graphic. I think what you have to do is when you go to replace a word, you don't type anything in the replacement field. I think thart's how you turn it off but I don't mind having it on in case there is a real graphic.


Rosemarie




On 6/12/2018 2:18 AM, anthony borg wrote:

Hi rosemarie

What did you do to turn off graphic please?

Thanks in advance

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: 12 June 2018 02:54
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how can i set nvda that never announce graphic graphic out of graphic?

 

I stand corrected. It's been awhile since I used the speech dictionary.

 

 

 

On 6/11/2018 1:35 PM, Gene wrote:

You write the word in the field for the actual word or whatever it is.  In the pronounced as field, type a space.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 2:48 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] how can i set nvda that never announce graphic graphic out of graphic?

 

I believe you justhit the space bar on the place where you'd normally
replace a word. I could be wrong so maybe Gene or someone else can jump
in here and correct me.


Rosemarie



On 6/11/2018 12:44 PM, zahra wrote:
> unfortunately i did not understand!
> what should i write in the first edit box and which one in the second edit box?
>
> On 6/12/18, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
>> It has tpo be done in the speech dictionary. In the field where you'd
>> normally type a word to replace another one, you just type a space.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/11/2018 5:32 AM, anthony borg wrote:
>>> Can you explain how to do that please gene?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance
>>>
>>> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
>>> *Gene
>>> *Sent:* 11 June 2018 11:23
>>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] how can i set nvda that never announce graphic
>>> graphic out of graphic?
>>>
>>> Try using the speech dictionary to stop graphic from being spoken.  I
>>> suspect it will work.
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> ----- Origiinal Message -----
>>>
>>> *From:*Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
>>> <mailto:bglists@...>
>>>
>>> *Sent:*Monday, June 11, 2018 2:03 AM
>>>
>>> *To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>>
>>> *Subject:*Re: [nvda] how can i set nvda that never announce graphic
>>> graphic out of graphic?
>>>
>>> actually,  none of the three format announcing  property sheets seems to
>>> have a way of selectable just stopping the announcement of the object
>>> type
>>> if its a graphics. Sure you can turn off object type announcements but
>>> this
>>> one supposes then leaves you a little in the dark about everything
>>> else. I
>>> think, personally, I've come to live with this, making sure that when
>>> I hear
>>> the word start to be spoken I go away or hit control to shut it up.
>>> It is giving valuable info of course and its a sad fact of our lives that
>>> telling us what is on the screen to help us understand layout is one
>>> of the
>>> problems. While its telling us about buttons and their state ie
>>> pressed or
>>> not it also tells us if the bit we are on is a graphic and even a graphic
>>> button indeed.
>>> Brian
>>>
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>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Rui Fontes" <rui.fontes@...
>>> <mailto:rui.fontes@...>>
>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>>
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 3:10 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] how can i set nvda that never announce graphic
>>> graphic
>>> out of graphic?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Sorry! It is on Document formating...
>>>>
>>>> Rui
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Às 15:02 de 10/06/2018, zahra escreveu:
>>>>> which item in brows mode should i change that not hear graphic
>>>>> anymore?
>>>>> i did not find in brows mode or in other preferences one option
>>>>> related to graphic, so i decided to ask here.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/10/18, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...
>>> <mailto:rui.fontes@...>> wrote:
>>>>>> NVDA menu, Preferences, Browse mode...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rui
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Às 14:44 de 10/06/2018, zahra escreveu:
>>>>>>> hello every one.
>>>>>>> like gene, recently i changed my mind and decided to give chrome
>>> a try.
>>>>>>> it is very greater than firefox in stability, speed, and handling
>>>>>>> big
>>>>>>> and dynamic web pages like quora which i subscribed and answered
>>>>>>> hundreds of questions.
>>>>>>> however, when nvda sees a title or the name of one person, first
>>>>>>> says
>>>>>>> graphic, graphic and when i navigate by word nvda says graphic
>>> and out
>>>>>>> of graphic!
>>>>>>> i dont want to hear graphic at all!
>>>>>>> what should i do in nvda to achieve this?
>>>>>>> it even says
>>>>>>> graphic sometimes both before and after the names!
>>>>>>> for example: graphic zahra, zahra graphic.
>>>>>>> i realy hate hearing anything except the content that i read or want
>>>>>>> to interact with.
>>>>>>> thanks so much for any help, God bless all!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


 




Re: list of accessibility tools when win 10 newest update boots

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


I found this that might help the first option looks easier and a link to this page is https://forum.thewindowsclub.com/windows-customization/29982-disable-remove-ease-access-button-logon-screen.html

it did not mention a windows version so am guessing it should work.


I did read a thread that on hp machines this comes up at log on.


I wonder if you have your computer boot straight into windows if it would still come up? I do not think so or would you rather not as you would rather log on into windows?


Gene nz



On 6/13/2018 6:50 AM, Dan Beaver wrote:

I have been seeing this since the big spring update happened.  Almost every time it boots this dialog with a list of tools like narrator, magnifier, on-screen keyboards and the like shows up before the logon screen is displayed. 


I have dug around my system and can't find a way to stop this.



any ideas?  I don't want to use any of those tools and would like not to see this dialog.


Thanks.


Dan Beaver



Re: list of accessibility tools when win 10 newest update boots

Chris
 

Do you have fast start-up enabled?

Or you could try a restart, rather than a shutdown , see if that clears it

Unless you have something in settings > apps > start-up that’s opening the dialog

 

 

From: Dan Beaver
Sent: 12 June 2018 21:04
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] list of accessibility tools when win 10 newest update boots

 

Thanks Ron but I already did that and the wizard is still coming up.

 

Dan Beaver

 

On 6/12/2018 4:00 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Dan,

 

If you open the start menu and search for accessibility, then when the results come up, find narrator and highlight it then use the tab key, there are a bunch of settings available.  One of them says use Narrator before sign in.  If this is checked, uncheck it and see if the accessibility wizard does not launch before sign in.

 

 

On 6/12/2018 2:50 PM, Dan Beaver wrote:

I have been seeing this since the big spring update happened.  Almost every time it boots this dialog with a list of tools like narrator, magnifier, on-screen keyboards and the like shows up before the logon screen is displayed. 

 

I have dug around my system and can't find a way to stop this.

 

 

any ideas?  I don't want to use any of those tools and would like not to see this dialog.

 

Thanks.

 

Dan Beaver



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Re: list of accessibility tools when win 10 newest update boots

Dan Beaver
 

Thanks Ron but I already did that and the wizard is still coming up.


Dan Beaver


On 6/12/2018 4:00 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Dan,


If you open the start menu and search for accessibility, then when the results come up, find narrator and highlight it then use the tab key, there are a bunch of settings available.  One of them says use Narrator before sign in.  If this is checked, uncheck it and see if the accessibility wizard does not launch before sign in.



On 6/12/2018 2:50 PM, Dan Beaver wrote:

I have been seeing this since the big spring update happened.  Almost every time it boots this dialog with a list of tools like narrator, magnifier, on-screen keyboards and the like shows up before the logon screen is displayed. 


I have dug around my system and can't find a way to stop this.



any ideas?  I don't want to use any of those tools and would like not to see this dialog.


Thanks.


Dan Beaver


-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: list of accessibility tools when win 10 newest update boots

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Dan,


If you open the start menu and search for accessibility, then when the results come up, find narrator and highlight it then use the tab key, there are a bunch of settings available.  One of them says use Narrator before sign in.  If this is checked, uncheck it and see if the accessibility wizard does not launch before sign in.



On 6/12/2018 2:50 PM, Dan Beaver wrote:

I have been seeing this since the big spring update happened.  Almost every time it boots this dialog with a list of tools like narrator, magnifier, on-screen keyboards and the like shows up before the logon screen is displayed. 


I have dug around my system and can't find a way to stop this.



any ideas?  I don't want to use any of those tools and would like not to see this dialog.


Thanks.


Dan Beaver


-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: list of accessibility tools when win 10 newest update boots

Sarah k Alawami
 

Or get rid of the windows 10 log screen completely. Do it through yoru  admin pannel or the registry. You have to google how to do this as I forgot how but a simple google should do the trick.

Take care

On Jun 12, 2018, at 12:02 PM, Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@...> wrote:

Yeah, but that doesn't stop it from happening.


Dan Beaver


On 6/12/2018 2:55 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

Press Escape when this happens, and you’ll be directed to the sign-in screen.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Beaver
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 11:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] list of accessibility tools when win 10 newest update boots

 

I have been seeing this since the big spring update happened.  Almost every time it boots this dialog with a list of tools like narrator, magnifier, on-screen keyboards and the like shows up before the logon screen is displayed. 

 

I have dug around my system and can't find a way to stop this.

 
 

any ideas?  I don't want to use any of those tools and would like not to see this dialog.

 

Thanks.

 

Dan Beaver




Re: list of accessibility tools when win 10 newest update boots

Dan Beaver
 

Yeah, but that doesn't stop it from happening.


Dan Beaver


On 6/12/2018 2:55 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

Press Escape when this happens, and you’ll be directed to the sign-in screen.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Beaver
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 11:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] list of accessibility tools when win 10 newest update boots

 

I have been seeing this since the big spring update happened.  Almost every time it boots this dialog with a list of tools like narrator, magnifier, on-screen keyboards and the like shows up before the logon screen is displayed. 

 

I have dug around my system and can't find a way to stop this.

 

 

any ideas?  I don't want to use any of those tools and would like not to see this dialog.

 

Thanks.

 

Dan Beaver



Re: list of accessibility tools when win 10 newest update boots

 

Hi,

Press Escape when this happens, and you’ll be directed to the sign-in screen.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Beaver
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 11:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] list of accessibility tools when win 10 newest update boots

 

I have been seeing this since the big spring update happened.  Almost every time it boots this dialog with a list of tools like narrator, magnifier, on-screen keyboards and the like shows up before the logon screen is displayed. 

 

I have dug around my system and can't find a way to stop this.

 

 

any ideas?  I don't want to use any of those tools and would like not to see this dialog.

 

Thanks.

 

Dan Beaver


list of accessibility tools when win 10 newest update boots

Dan Beaver
 

I have been seeing this since the big spring update happened.  Almost every time it boots this dialog with a list of tools like narrator, magnifier, on-screen keyboards and the like shows up before the logon screen is displayed. 


I have dug around my system and can't find a way to stop this.



any ideas?  I don't want to use any of those tools and would like not to see this dialog.


Thanks.


Dan Beaver