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profile triggers

Giles Turnbull
 

Hi all,

I was looking at the NVDA user guide section on activating different profiles with triggers such as for a specific application. I suspect the anser to this will be no, but is there any way to make a trigger respond to whether the audio is being played through the laptop internal speakers, headphones or over bluetooth?

When I use my bluetooth speakers NVDA's volume is very loud compared to audio being played by WinAmp. I tried makeing a profile with a lower volume level that is triggered when WinAmp is active, but the moment focus moves out of Winamp NVDA's volume jumps back to the normal profile. I tried adjusting the volume level of my normal profile down to 50 percent (it's at 100 by default) but then once I turn off the bluetooth speakers NVDA is hard to hear and I'd have to raise the level in the Windows volume or go into NVDA profile and bring the volume back up to 100 percent there.

Using the volume mixer also suffers from the same combination of volume difference ... If I lower NVDA's volume there then once I switch from bluetooth to laptop speakers NVDA's volume is too low!

So, to cut a long question short, is there anyway to get NVDA's volume to adjust automatically dependent on whether laptop speakrs, headphones or bluetooth speakers are active?

Thanks,

Giles


Re: first read all - then react - nvda list has become a chatter group

Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@...>
 

This is why I subscribe to this list in daily summary mode. I only get one email message from the group per day, and I can more easily skip the topics that don't interest me. It's pretty easy to change your preferences in groups.io. If you need to know how, let me know privately. With the high volume of traffic, I think this subscription mode makes it less stressful.
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Re: Not able to open pdf file

farhan israk
 

On Sun, 4 Nov 2018, 12:52 am Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@... wrote:

I yu attached the log the list is set to block attachment.s Paste the text in the body of the message or email the dev off list.

Take care.

On 3 Nov 2018, at 11:37, farhan israk wrote:

Here is log


On Sat, 3 Nov 2018, 5:03 pm farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@... wrote:

No, it can't open small pdf file. I use stable standard nvda. I will send log as soon as possible.


On Sat, 3 Nov 2018, 5:01 am Mallard <mallard@... wrote:
Oh, don't tell me! It's driving me crazy! But it's the only way to
download ebooks from our public libraries here. I wish they made a
better job of tehse epub's, forgetting about Adobe DRM, but I'm a fraid
we'll have to live with it for many years to come.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 02/11/2018 21:36, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io ha scritto:
> Oh that piece of software has never behaved for me at any time it
> tends to lock, fall out of itself or just be very slow.
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mallard" <mallard@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 6:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Not able to open pdf file
>
>
> No, not my problem. I use Qread, edge or even Chrome for pdf files. My
> problem is with Adobe Digital Editions, which doesn't seem to be able to
> open acsm files to download teh actual ebooks with NVDA lately.
>
>
> Ciao,
>
> Ollie
>
>
>
>
>
> Il 02/11/2018 18:27, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io ha scritto:
>> you all can use acrobat reader DC
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mallard" <mallard@...>
>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 1:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Not able to open pdf file
>>
>>
>> Adobe seems to have all sorts of issues these days. I have the same
>> problems with Adobe Digital Editions...
>>
>> Ciao,
>>
>> Ollie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Il 02/11/2018 16:13, farhan israk ha scritto:
>>>
>>> Adobe reader shows not responding.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 2 Nov 2018, 7:51 pm Sylvie Duchateau
>>> <sduchateau@... <mailto:sduchateau@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>> Can you explain what happens when you open the PDF file with NVDA?
>>> You press enter on the file and nothing happens?
>>> If you open it with Jaws, then you try to read it with NVDA, is
>>> there a difference?
>>> Best
>>> Sylvie
>>> Le 02/11/2018 à 14:47, farhan israk a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> I use Windows 10 1803, jaws 18, nvda 2018.3.2 and latest adobe
>>>> reader. When I use nvda then I can't open pdf file. But, when I
>>>> use jaws then I can open pdf file. How to fix it?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>





Re: Not able to open pdf file

Sarah k Alawami
 

I yu attached the log the list is set to block attachment.s Paste the text in the body of the message or email the dev off list.

Take care.

On 3 Nov 2018, at 11:37, farhan israk wrote:

Here is log


On Sat, 3 Nov 2018, 5:03 pm farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@... wrote:

No, it can't open small pdf file. I use stable standard nvda. I will send log as soon as possible.


On Sat, 3 Nov 2018, 5:01 am Mallard <mallard@... wrote:
Oh, don't tell me! It's driving me crazy! But it's the only way to
download ebooks from our public libraries here. I wish they made a
better job of tehse epub's, forgetting about Adobe DRM, but I'm a fraid
we'll have to live with it for many years to come.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 02/11/2018 21:36, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io ha scritto:
> Oh that piece of software has never behaved for me at any time it
> tends to lock, fall out of itself or just be very slow.
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mallard" <mallard@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 6:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Not able to open pdf file
>
>
> No, not my problem. I use Qread, edge or even Chrome for pdf files. My
> problem is with Adobe Digital Editions, which doesn't seem to be able to
> open acsm files to download teh actual ebooks with NVDA lately.
>
>
> Ciao,
>
> Ollie
>
>
>
>
>
> Il 02/11/2018 18:27, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io ha scritto:
>> you all can use acrobat reader DC
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mallard" <mallard@...>
>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 1:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Not able to open pdf file
>>
>>
>> Adobe seems to have all sorts of issues these days. I have the same
>> problems with Adobe Digital Editions...
>>
>> Ciao,
>>
>> Ollie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Il 02/11/2018 16:13, farhan israk ha scritto:
>>>
>>> Adobe reader shows not responding.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 2 Nov 2018, 7:51 pm Sylvie Duchateau
>>> <sduchateau@... <mailto:sduchateau@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>> Can you explain what happens when you open the PDF file with NVDA?
>>> You press enter on the file and nothing happens?
>>> If you open it with Jaws, then you try to read it with NVDA, is
>>> there a difference?
>>> Best
>>> Sylvie
>>> Le 02/11/2018 à 14:47, farhan israk a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> I use Windows 10 1803, jaws 18, nvda 2018.3.2 and latest adobe
>>>> reader. When I use nvda then I can't open pdf file. But, when I
>>>> use jaws then I can open pdf file. How to fix it?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>





Re: Not able to open pdf file

farhan israk
 

Here is log


On Sat, 3 Nov 2018, 5:03 pm farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@... wrote:

No, it can't open small pdf file. I use stable standard nvda. I will send log as soon as possible.


On Sat, 3 Nov 2018, 5:01 am Mallard <mallard@... wrote:
Oh, don't tell me! It's driving me crazy! But it's the only way to
download ebooks from our public libraries here. I wish they made a
better job of tehse epub's, forgetting about Adobe DRM, but I'm a fraid
we'll have to live with it for many years to come.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 02/11/2018 21:36, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io ha scritto:
> Oh that piece of software has never behaved for me at any time it
> tends to lock, fall out of itself or just be very slow.
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mallard" <mallard@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 6:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Not able to open pdf file
>
>
> No, not my problem. I use Qread, edge or even Chrome for pdf files. My
> problem is with Adobe Digital Editions, which doesn't seem to be able to
> open acsm files to download teh actual ebooks with NVDA lately.
>
>
> Ciao,
>
> Ollie
>
>
>
>
>
> Il 02/11/2018 18:27, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io ha scritto:
>> you all can use acrobat reader DC
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mallard" <mallard@...>
>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 1:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Not able to open pdf file
>>
>>
>> Adobe seems to have all sorts of issues these days. I have the same
>> problems with Adobe Digital Editions...
>>
>> Ciao,
>>
>> Ollie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Il 02/11/2018 16:13, farhan israk ha scritto:
>>>
>>> Adobe reader shows not responding.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 2 Nov 2018, 7:51 pm Sylvie Duchateau
>>> <sduchateau@... <mailto:sduchateau@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>> Can you explain what happens when you open the PDF file with NVDA?
>>> You press enter on the file and nothing happens?
>>> If you open it with Jaws, then you try to read it with NVDA, is
>>> there a difference?
>>> Best
>>> Sylvie
>>> Le 02/11/2018 à 14:47, farhan israk a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> I use Windows 10 1803, jaws 18, nvda 2018.3.2 and latest adobe
>>>> reader. When I use nvda then I can't open pdf file. But, when I
>>>> use jaws then I can open pdf file. How to fix it?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>





Re: link for synthe discussed yesterday

Brian Moore
 

thanks.


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On 2018-11-03 11:45 a.m., Gene wrote:

I forgot to send the link to the web page where the different versions can be downloaded.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2018 10:26 AM
Subject: [nvda] link for synthe discussed yesterday

Hi all. Though I kept that message but now can't find it. can someone
send privately?

thanks.

Brian.

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Re: link for synthe discussed yesterday

Gene
 

I forgot to send the link to the web page where the different versions can be downloaded.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2018 10:26 AM
Subject: [nvda] link for synthe discussed yesterday

Hi all. Though I kept that message but now can't find it. can someone
send privately?

thanks.

Brian.

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Re: link for synthe discussed yesterday

Gene
 

I tried the Bratcher version of E-Speak and, while there are more voices, the version without the bratcher name is actually better.  Since people may vary in their opinions, those who are interested in this synthesizer should try both, in my opinion. 
 
I don't know whether to just state this as a fact since people differ but the accents in the nonBratcher version are more pleasant to listen to and the consonants in the Bratcher version aren't as pleasant to listen to.  This may be because they are more emphasized and it may also be because of the sound of some of the consonants.  I didn't adjust the consonants in the options of the player program. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2018 10:26 AM
Subject: [nvda] link for synthe discussed yesterday

Hi all. Though I kept that message but now can't find it. can someone
send privately?

thanks.

Brian.

--
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follow me on twitter:
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link for synthe discussed yesterday

Brian Moore
 

Hi all. Though I kept that message but now can't find it. can someone send privately?

thanks.

Brian.

--
Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123


Re: first read all - then react - nvda list has become a chatter group

Gene
 

These are my thoughts as moderator.  The owner is the ultimate authority and he may wish to comment.
 
The list has been run in this way, regarding traffic, long before I became moderator.  That doesn't mean it has to be but it may be the best of various imperfect possibilities. 
 
If you moderate too tightly, you may harm a sense of community that, one hopes, develops on good lists.  And at times, it has been my observation, that even if a thread drifts, useful information may be sent and you never know when that might happen as a result of the drift so I tend not to regulate it much.  If something is really offtopic, I may do so but I find that in such cases, the thread often stops by itself very quickly.
 
Also, even when a moderator makes suggestions such as to change subject lines if a thread drifts too far, these generally aren't followed in my experience with this and other lists. 
 
As a practical matter, I'll discuss ways of managing mail so people may deal with what they don't want to read much more efficiently than they may be doing. 
 
Reading the first message or two in a thread to see if you are interested is one way.  Of course, you can do this on a day when the list is particularly busy or on days when there are long threads you may or may not be interested in.  You can read mail by conversation, which involves setting your e-mail program to show all messages with a certain subject line in a group.  You can skip all in a group and you don't have to down arrow through them all to do so.  The conversations are organized in a tree view so you can open one conversation, read what you want, then close it and delete the entire conversation at one time. 
 
I haven't done the following so I don't know what happens if you follow the link but each message has a mute thread link in the footers at the bottom of the message.  You can follow this link and the thread will either be muted, you won't receive any more messages in it, or you will be taken to a page where you do something to mute it.  As I said, I don't know which. 
 
These suggestions, or some of them, may help those who want to manage messages.
 
Gene, Moderator

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2018 7:53 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] first read all - then react - nvda list has become a chatter group

In that case perhaps a moderator could put up a sticky topic reminding people not to go off-topic?
> On 3 Nov 2018, at 12:39, Christian Schoepplein <chris@...> wrote:
>
> Hej,
>
>> On Sat, 03 Nov 2018 04:26:26 -0700, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:
>> People who feel annoyed being bombarded by emails from this group
>> can always set there preferences two no email.
>
> Ofcourse this is a way to deal with the problem, but its the wrong way IMHO. In this list there are so many off topic messages about things that are not related to NVDA and this has to be minimized to get back to the real topic of this list.
>
> Cheers,
>
>  Schoepp
>
>
>



Single letter navigation on web searches

Greg Rhodes <gkrhodes@...>
 

I recently had computer problems and had to reload windows 10 (1803), NVDA, MS Office, etc. I’m using Google as my home page in MS Edge. When I did Google searches prior to computer reload, single key header navigation was very snappy. Post-reload, it is very slow. I used to be able to type “h” and quickly jump from one search to another. Now, NVDA continues to read the first heading for a long time, even though I have hit the “h” again to move to the next heading. Is there something I missed in my NVDA settings that would make this move from heading to heading more quickly? Thanks.

 

Greg

 

 


Re: first read all - then react - nvda list has become a chatter group

Sarah k Alawami
 

That doesn't. work. Asa mod for about 15 to 17 yers I can say that people ignore it, people like myself, and yes I have broken my own rules every once in a while..

Take care and happy Saturday.

On 3 Nov 2018, at 5:53, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:

In that case perhaps a moderator could put up a sticky topic reminding people not to go off-topic? > On 3 Nov 2018, at 12:39, Christian Schoepplein chris@... > wrote: > > Hej, > >> On Sat, 03 Nov 2018 04:26:26 -0700, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote: >> People who feel annoyed being bombarded by emails from this group >> can always set there preferences two no email. > > Ofcourse this is a way to deal with the problem, but its the wrong > way IMHO. In this list there are so many off topic messages about > things that are not related to NVDA and this has to be minimized to > get back to the real topic of this list. > > Cheers, > > Schoepp > > >


Re: first read all - then react - nvda list has become a chatter group

Sarah k Alawami
 

I do the same thing, or I will just read with out reading, that is, open all the message then close them and skim, or mark everything as read allowing me to go through over a thousand messages that come in through out the week day. Weekends are quieter. There is also the delete key. If I'm not interested I remove the conversation or mute it with mail mate on mac os or mute it on groups.io. I've already done tis to several threads that don't interest me, except in lists I mod I have to read everything there.

Take care

On 3 Nov 2018, at 4:22, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

Although I sympathise, there are times when certain people lay down a law which is not in fact true, and each person will have their own take on it, IE there is no right way to decide on whether to install a ribbon remover or learn them. One of the functions here is to explain choices and signpost people to other resources Second. If we all had email that flowed to use in a linear time line it would be wonderful, but sadly that is not the case. IE for example I may read a thread here, and see a few replies and add mine, only say several hours later to find old emails have come in from prior to mine and made me seem to be repeating things. OK so you hold off, but then you forget to look back.

I'm not saying you are in any way wrong, merely suggesting that what may look to some as a chat list, is in fact not being treated that way in the posters mind at a given time. It is thus very hard to stop it without getting draconian on moderation and risking throwing the baby out with the bathwater. I've seen it on lists I have left due to that my rule is the only rule enforcement lots of times.

What I suggest is to do what I do. I use a particular email for lists. I use pop 3 clients and sort the mails automatically into folders as they come in. I also have a junk folder for certain subject lines and in some instances certain posters messages. You do not have to read all the responses if you set up the viewing order correctly.

Text, thankfully takes up little room.

Brian

bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Davy Cuppens" davycuppens@... To: nvda@groups.io Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2018 10:51 AM Subject: [nvda] first read all - then react - nvda list has become a chatter group

Hi folks

I’ve been thinking a long time to post it or not but after the useless discussion over the usage of ribbons and the heavy mail traffic over and over again ...

Please people, this group is to ask questions and if you have one, feel free to start a topic. But ... before you do so, don’t be lazy and have you checked google before, have you checked the nvda or windows manuals or learning stuff before? OK still no answer for you, ask questions. By doing that there will be less list traffic. Second, we all get tons of mails and are not always behind our desktops or laptops. If you want to help people and react, please read your mails until the latest updates and then react on it once or twice. I don’t want to blame or name people here, but we all know who ... there are chaps here that react and react and react on every single mail. I notice that the purpose of this group helping people has gone by. We are all telling eachother in endless threads how it was how it would and how it should be. Please, please, stay with facts only. If we go on like this, many intelligent people will leave this fine group so that knowledge will be gone more and more. Regards Davy


Re: how to navigate notifications in windows 10

Michael Munn
 

What kind of machine is this? Is that a Braille display?

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On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 10:45 AM Ali Abdalkadir <abdalkadir41@...> wrote:

Hello listers,

I was just wondering how I could navigate the notifications in windows 10 when connecting a device to the machine via USB cable!

 

Best regards,

Ali.


how to navigate notifications in windows 10

Ali Abdalkadir
 

Hello listers,

I was just wondering how I could navigate the notifications in windows 10 when connecting a device to the machine via USB cable!

 

Best regards,

Ali.


Re: first read all - then react - nvda list has become a chatter group

Ron Canazzi
 

Also, if you wish to avoid a thread of dozens or even hundreds of messages, you can filter messages into separate folders for each group and you can group messages by conversation and mass delete the entire threads at once.  I am subscribed to 17 moderated mailing list and receive thousands of messages a day.  I only take 1 or 2 hours over a few sessions daily to go through them.  I do this by eliminating dozens of e-mails at one time that I am not interested in. This filtering and group message by conversation is different for each mail program but it is usually an easy enough thing to do and undo.



On 11/3/2018 7:26 AM, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:
 People who feel annoyed being bombarded by emails from this group can always set there preferences two no email. 

-- 
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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
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Re: first read all - then react - nvda list has become a chatter group

 

Not that I don't agree with the central thrust of a great many of your points, Davy, but it is also incumbent on those using Groups.io to also learn and understand the features available from Groups.io to actually control the e-mail stream they receive, up to and including using the Mute this Topic feature.

There are periods of time on any list where volumes of messages go up, sometimes way up, and the topics are not of interest.  You, as an individual user, have immense power and control over what you do and do not receive from any group on Groups.io.  You, for any you, have the ability to very carefully vet the topics you want to continue receiving from Groups.io and can do so with ease.

In addition to a number of the great ideas you suggest, everyone should read, understand, and employ the features they need to control their e-mail stream contained in, Controlling the Messages You Receive via E-Mail from Groups.io

 

--

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The terrible state of public education has paid huge dividends in ignorance.  Huge.  We now have a country that can be told blatant lies — easily checkable, blatant lies — and I’m not talking about the covert workings of the CIA. When we have a terrorist attack, on September 11, 2001 with 19 men — 15 of them are Saudis — and five minutes later the whole country thinks they’re from Iraq — how can you have faith in the public? This is an easily checkable fact. The whole country is like the O.J. Simpson jurors.

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Re: first read all - then react - nvda list has become a chatter group

Michael Munn
 

I kind of agree about the sticky note method.
Some time a person forgot what's the list is for and they post stuff on the list that's off topic.
Thanks for the email.
Best Regards 
Michael Munn 


modified nv speech player

Josh Kennedy
 

Hi,

 

When you are on the website for the modified speech player voices, be sure to get the addon which specifically says its by Jason bratcher, in order to get many more speech player voices. Use the addon by Jason bratcher.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: first read all - then react - nvda list has become a chatter group

 

In that case perhaps a moderator could put up a sticky topic reminding people not to go off-topic?

On 3 Nov 2018, at 12:39, Christian Schoepplein <chris@schoeppi.net> wrote:

Hej,

On Sat, 03 Nov 2018 04:26:26 -0700, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:
People who feel annoyed being bombarded by emails from this group
can always set there preferences two no email.
Ofcourse this is a way to deal with the problem, but its the wrong way IMHO. In this list there are so many off topic messages about things that are not related to NVDA and this has to be minimized to get back to the real topic of this list.

Cheers,

Schoepp