about the discripancy betwen the volume of YouTube  and Nvda, Daniel
wrote here as: 'I use an extension called "sound booster that works"
in Chrome. If the video is too low,, you can click on it, or set a
hotkey to it, so that the video's volume increases. It is fast and
works very well!'. I added the extention to my Chrome. I didn't know
where to klick or how to set hotkies to increase YouTube volume as
much as nvda. solution please?
fondly!On 6/14/20, Nevzat Adil <nevzatadil@...> wrote:
> Hi every one,
> There is a discrepancy between the volume of sound I get from NVDA and
> Youtube.
> For instance, when I listen to a Youtube video I need to turn the
> volume all the way up to hear some sound,  but then the volume from
> NVDA is at 100%.
> Is there a way to equalize the sound volumes of both NVDA and Youtube
> so that I won't have to turn up the volume all the way up to listen to
> a Youtube video?
> Any help would be appreciated.
> Nevzat Adil
> Library of Congress Certified
> Literary Braille Proofreader
> C: 512 502 4403
> e-mail: nevzatadil@...
> Facebook: m.facebook.com/LiteraryBrailleProofreader
>
>
>
>

Hey Zarah, I did have 17.2 and 17.3 on my external hard drive. I think I did get rid of it. I might have done it on my 7 box before it bit the dust. My room
mate told me that Ihad dumped it.  I knew I was coming to windows ten.  So she did tell me I dumped it.  She dumped it when she used a thumb drive that I
had it on.  I do like the voice it now comes with. I hope Luke or someone gives you the link so you can go get your 17.2 or 17.3.  I don’t want it. Is your
xp computer dying? The windows commands are somewhat the same. But it’s a little different from xp.  You wont have outlook express like you do with xp.

Hello! When i press Alt+Up addon don't go to previous sentence. Maybe i should check some settings in notepad++?

Thank you, sir.

I will try that.

On 6/23/20, Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@...> wrote:

Hello,
Go to the account manager button, turnoff browse mode, press space and tab
3
times sothat you hear "sign off"

Cheers,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marisane
Moruthanyana
Sent: Dienstag, 23. Juni 2020 16:45
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] nvda's unresponsiveness to outlook.com interface

Good day gentle people

I trust you are still well and safe from corona.

I am trying.

My experience is that nvda is unresponsive to outlook.com interface.

Does anyone of you have the same experience?

I cannot find the buttons to log out even when I activated the my account
submenu where these buttons are found when using jaws.

What is wrong with nvda?

Please assist.

Furthermore, is there any tutorial on nvda for outlook.com?

Your assistance is appreciated in advance.

Regards
Moruthanyana Wally: SA

Hi,

Just joined the group, so excuse me if this question has been asked
before.

The question is: why does NVDA default to no Braille whenever I start
my computer? I have a Freedom Scientific PM 20 Braille display connected
to my pc via USB. What can I do to have NVDA start with Braille?

Also, if I run Narrator with Braille on, then close Narrator to run
NVDA, NVDA also then starts up with no Braille. How can I get NVDA to
start with Braille without having to go into the Braille setting to
change it to my choice of Braille display?

Thank you,
Nightowl.

Thank you, sir.

I will try that.

On 6/23/20, Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@...> wrote:

Hello,
Go to the account manager button, turnoff browse mode, press space
and tab
3
times sothat you hear "sign off"

Cheers,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marisane
Moruthanyana
Sent: Dienstag, 23. Juni 2020 16:45
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] nvda's unresponsiveness to outlook.com interface

Good day gentle people

I trust you are still well and safe from corona.

I am trying.

My experience is that nvda is unresponsive to outlook.com interface.

Does anyone of you have the same experience?

I cannot find the buttons to log out even when I activated the my
account submenu where these buttons are found when using jaws.

What is wrong with nvda?

Please assist.

Furthermore, is there any tutorial on nvda for outlook.com?

Your assistance is appreciated in advance.

Regards
Moruthanyana Wally: SA

Thank you, sir.

I will try that.

On 6/23/20, Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@...> wrote:

Hello,
Go to the account manager button, turnoff browse mode, press space and tab
3
times sothat you hear "sign off"

Cheers,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marisane
Moruthanyana
Sent: Dienstag, 23. Juni 2020 16:45
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] nvda's unresponsiveness to outlook.com interface

Good day gentle people

I trust you are still well and safe from corona.

I am trying.

My experience is that nvda is unresponsive to outlook.com interface.

Does anyone of you have the same experience?

I cannot find the buttons to log out even when I activated the my account
submenu where these buttons are found when using jaws.

What is wrong with nvda?

Please assist.

Furthermore, is there any tutorial on nvda for outlook.com?

Your assistance is appreciated in advance.

Regards
Moruthanyana Wally: SA

Hello,
Go to the account manager button, turnoff browse mode, press space and tab 3
times sothat you hear "sign off"

Cheers,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marisane
Moruthanyana
Sent: Dienstag, 23. Juni 2020 16:45
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] nvda's unresponsiveness to outlook.com interface

Good day gentle people

I trust you are still well and safe from corona.

I am trying.

My experience is that nvda is unresponsive to outlook.com interface.

Does anyone of you have the same experience?

I cannot find the buttons to log out even when I activated the my account
submenu where these buttons are found when using jaws.

What is wrong with nvda?

Please assist.

Furthermore, is there any tutorial on nvda for outlook.com?

Your assistance is appreciated in advance.

Regards
Moruthanyana Wally: SA

Luke,

thanks for your helping me.

i sent you email and i waiting for your help off list.

On 6/23/20, Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:

> You may, although since I don't regularly use that old version for other

> than

> testing purposes, I don't know how much help I will be. But you're welcome

> to

> try.

> 

> I will also note, that Espeak has definite issues under Windows 10 and

> 2017.3.

> The longer the text you read, the more harsh and distorted Espeak becomes,

> until

> it reaches some threshold and resets.

> 

> Espeak is definitely not pleasant in that use case. Some people might say it

> 

> never is, but for someone like me who uses and prefers it, under 2017.3 it

> is

> difficult to listen to after a short time.

> 

> But you're welcome to ask your questions.

> 

> Luke

> 

>   On Tue, 23 Jun 2020, zahra wrote:

> 

>> thanks so much for your reply!

>> may i contact you offline and ask some questions in this regard?

>> however, my favorite version of nvda is 2017.2.

>> but espeak in 2017.3 is also good,

>> and there is no difference about espeak between these versions.

> 

>

> 

> 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

Arlene,

thanks for your comments.

i have links for nvda versions and if you need another versions than

the current one,

i can give you direct link.

is giving direct link to other people permissable?

On 6/23/20, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

> Luke, Arlene here. I had both versions of NVDA 17.2 all the way to 19

> something. But when my windows 7 died I lost all versions.  The one I did

> get back was NVDA 19 something.  I didn’t think it would work for windows

> ten not unless like you said if you were testing addons. It would probably

> work. I would have given it to Zarah but I lost it when my 7 lost audio and

> died.  I did have it on a thumb drive but when I loaned the drive to my room

> mate while she was helping her mom they deleted it thinking it would not

> work for win ten.  They installed the 19 version on her mom’s ten box just

> as they did mine. Oh well. That’s how it goes.

> 

> 

> 

> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

> 

> 

> 

> From: zahra

> Sent: June 22, 2020 9:38 PM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda] windows ten and nvda 2017 versions:

> 

> 

> 

> Luke,

> 

> thanks so much for your reply!

> 

> may i contact you offline and ask some questions in this regard?

> 

> however, my favorite version of nvda is 2017.2.

> 

> but espeak in 2017.3 is also good,

> 

> and there is no difference about espeak between these versions.

> 

> 

> 

> On 6/23/20, Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:

> 

>> Arlene, Zahra is correct. I keep a copy of 2017.3 around for add-on

>> testing,

> 

>> and its

> 

>> basic functions work quite well under Windows 10 up to, at least, Win 10

> 

>> version

> 

>> 1909.

> 

>> 

> 

>> However, essential items like the Add-on Updater, and Windows 10 App

> 

>> Essentials,

> 

>> do not work with it, unless you dig up some very old versions.

> 

>> 

> 

>> Basically it is highly inadvisable to use such an old version of NVDA on

> 

>> Windows

> 

>> 10, and there are rarely any good reasons to do so, unless you need to use

> 

>> it to

> 

>> find bugs for add-ons and things like that.

> 

>> 

> 

>> I would certainly never use it as my daily screen reader.

> 

>> 

> 

>> Luke

> 

>> 

> 

>>   On Tue, 23 Jun 2020, zahra wrote:

> 

>> 

> 

>>> nvda has support for windows ten since 2015.3!

> 

>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> --

> 

> By God,

> 

> were I given all the seven heavens

> 

> with all they contain

> 

> in order that

> 

> I may disobey God

> 

> by depriving an ant

> 

> from the husk of a grain of barley,

> 

> I would not do it.

> 

> imam ali

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

>

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

Hi all,
To settle the matter for my add-ons and to answer possible questions:
* Can I run current add-ons on older NVDA releases: technically, yes;
practically speaking, no. This is more so if you are using an older
NVDA release that doesn't include a feature that is desperately needed
by current add-ons (Python syntax differences and libraries, for
example). In case of any add-ons I'm maintaining, unless otherwise
noted, there is a limit as to how old an NVDA release you can use with
add-ons. For all practical purposes, my add-ons require NVDA 2019.3 or
later for proper functionality.
* Does NVDA 2017.3 run on Windows 10: yes and no. The first version to
support Windows 10 properly was 2015.3 (I championed for it then).
Does this mean 2017.3 works on modern Windows 10? Yes to some degree.
What about versions such as May 2019 Update? No because certain
features, namely proper support for modern input features, came with
later NVDA releases. How about Chromium Edge? NVDA 2017.3 does not
properly support it - the only Edge it is familiar with is the one
that is, for all practical purposes, end of life.
* As a follow-up, will you (Joseph) make add-ons so NVDA 2017.3 users
can use more modern Windows 10 features: a year ago I would have
thought about it. Today, despite calls for this, my answer is no. We
have gotten to a point where we cannot cross the "ocean" to return to
the old world, particularly more so since NVDA 2019.3.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke
Davis
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 9:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows ten and nvda 2017 versions:

Arlene, Zahra is correct. I keep a copy of 2017.3 around for add-on
testing, and its basic functions work quite well under Windows 10 up
to, at least, Win 10 version 1909.

However, essential items like the Add-on Updater, and Windows 10 App
Essentials, do not work with it, unless you dig up some very old versions.

Basically it is highly inadvisable to use such an old version of NVDA
on Windows 10, and there are rarely any good reasons to do so, unless
you need to use it to find bugs for add-ons and things like that.

I would certainly never use it as my daily screen reader.

Luke

On Tue, 23 Jun 2020, zahra wrote:

nvda has support for windows ten since 2015.3!

Yes, it is up-arrow. Usually youtube is set to atomatically starting the
video, means the playback control is focussed after the webpage opens and
you hear the sound. Leave browse mode and just press arrow-up or arrow-down
to adjust the youtube volume.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Dienstag, 23. Juni 2020 17:54
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Discrepancy Between NVDA and Youtube sounds

I'm not sure. I never use it. I think it is upn arrow raise volume, down
arrow lower volume.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Nevzat Adil
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 10:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Discrepancy Between NVDA and Youtube sounds

What's the specific volume command for Youtube?


On 6/23/20, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

Have you tried using the specific volume command for Youtube itself?
Perhaps somehow, your Firefox is set to cause Youtube to play at a
lower volume.

Start a video playing.
From the top of the page, type b until you get into player commands.
Then, depending on the browser you are using, turn the Virtual Cursor
off or

browse mode off.
Tab and shift tab to be sure you are in the player commands. I
believe volume up is up arrow. Press it a lot of times or try
;pressing and holding

it to see if the volume goes up. Others may definitely know the command.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Nevzat Adil
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 9:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Discrepancy Between NVDA and Youtube sounds

The reason why I had a problem with volume on Youtube was because I
was using Firefox. I switched to Crome and I have no problem. I looked
up volume booster for Crome, but I was told the information I get on
websites might change with the use of it. So I decided not to get
it.

On 6/23/20, Aschalew Byness <gakidan.ashagre235@...> wrote:

about the discripancy betwen the volume of YouTube and Nvda, Daniel
wrote here as: 'I use an extension called "sound booster that works"
in Chrome. If the video is too low,, you can click on it, or set a
hotkey to it, so that the video's volume increases. It is fast and
works very well!'. I added the extention to my Chrome. I didn't know
where to klick or how to set hotkies to increase YouTube volume as
much as nvda. solution please?
fondly!On 6/14/20, Nevzat Adil <@Nev> wrote:

Hi every one,
There is a discrepancy between the volume of sound I get from NVDA
and Youtube.
For instance, when I listen to a Youtube video I need to turn the
volume all the way up to hear some sound, but then the volume from
NVDA is at 100%.
Is there a way to equalize the sound volumes of both NVDA and
Youtube so that I won't have to turn up the volume all the way up to
listen to a Youtube video?
Any help would be appreciated.
Nevzat Adil
Library of Congress Certified
Literary Braille Proofreader
C: 512 502 4403
e-mail: @Nev
Facebook: m.facebook.com/LiteraryBrailleProofreader

--
Nevzat Adil
Library of Congress Certified
Literary Braille Proofreader
C: 512 502 4403
e-mail: @Nev
Facebook: m.facebook.com/LiteraryBrailleProofreader

--
Nevzat Adil
Library of Congress Certified
Literary Braille Proofreader
C: 512 502 4403
e-mail: @Nev
Facebook: m.facebook.com/LiteraryBrailleProofreader

Have you tried using the specific volume command for Youtube itself?
Perhaps somehow, your Firefox is set to cause Youtube to play at a
lower volume.

Start a video playing.
From the top of the page, type b until you get into player commands.
Then, depending on the browser you are using, turn the Virtual Cursor
off or

browse mode off.
Tab and shift tab to be sure you are in the player commands. I
believe volume up is up arrow. Press it a lot of times or try
;pressing and holding

it to see if the volume goes up. Others may definitely know the command.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Nevzat Adil
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 9:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Discrepancy Between NVDA and Youtube sounds

The reason why I had a problem with volume on Youtube was because I
was using Firefox. I switched to Crome and I have no problem. I looked
up volume booster for Crome, but I was told the information I get on
websites might change with the use of it. So I decided not to get
it.

On 6/23/20, Aschalew Byness <gakidan.ashagre235@...> wrote:

about the discripancy betwen the volume of YouTube and Nvda, Daniel
wrote here as: 'I use an extension called "sound booster that works"
in Chrome. If the video is too low,, you can click on it, or set a
hotkey to it, so that the video's volume increases. It is fast and
works very well!'. I added the extention to my Chrome. I didn't know
where to klick or how to set hotkies to increase YouTube volume as
much as nvda. solution please?
fondly!On 6/14/20, Nevzat Adil <@Nev> wrote:

Hi every one,
There is a discrepancy between the volume of sound I get from NVDA
and Youtube.
For instance, when I listen to a Youtube video I need to turn the
volume all the way up to hear some sound, but then the volume from
NVDA is at 100%.
Is there a way to equalize the sound volumes of both NVDA and
Youtube so that I won't have to turn up the volume all the way up to
listen to a Youtube video?
Any help would be appreciated.
Nevzat Adil
Library of Congress Certified
Literary Braille Proofreader
C: 512 502 4403
e-mail: @Nev
Facebook: m.facebook.com/LiteraryBrailleProofreader

--
Nevzat Adil
Library of Congress Certified
Literary Braille Proofreader
C: 512 502 4403
e-mail: @Nev
Facebook: m.facebook.com/LiteraryBrailleProofreader

Have you tried using the specific volume command for Youtube itself?
Perhaps somehow, your Firefox is set to cause Youtube to play at a lower
volume.

Start a video playing.
From the top of the page, type b until you get into player commands.
Then, depending on the browser you are using, turn the Virtual Cursor off or

browse mode off.
Tab and shift tab to be sure you are in the player commands. I believe
volume up is up arrow. Press it a lot of times or try ;pressing and holding

it to see if the volume goes up. Others may definitely know the command.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Nevzat Adil
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 9:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Discrepancy Between NVDA and Youtube sounds

The reason why I had a problem with volume on Youtube was because I
was using Firefox. I switched to Crome and I have no problem. I looked
up volume booster for Crome, but I was told the information I get on
websites might change with the use of it. So I decided not to get
it.

On 6/23/20, Aschalew Byness <gakidan.ashagre235@...> wrote:

about the discripancy betwen the volume of YouTube and Nvda, Daniel
wrote here as: 'I use an extension called "sound booster that works"
in Chrome. If the video is too low,, you can click on it, or set a
hotkey to it, so that the video's volume increases. It is fast and
works very well!'. I added the extention to my Chrome. I didn't know
where to klick or how to set hotkies to increase YouTube volume as
much as nvda. solution please?
fondly!On 6/14/20, Nevzat Adil <@Nev> wrote:

Hi every one,
There is a discrepancy between the volume of sound I get from NVDA and
Youtube.
For instance, when I listen to a Youtube video I need to turn the
volume all the way up to hear some sound, but then the volume from
NVDA is at 100%.
Is there a way to equalize the sound volumes of both NVDA and Youtube
so that I won't have to turn up the volume all the way up to listen to
a Youtube video?
Any help would be appreciated.
Nevzat Adil
Library of Congress Certified
Literary Braille Proofreader
C: 512 502 4403
e-mail: @Nev
Facebook: m.facebook.com/LiteraryBrailleProofreader

--
Nevzat Adil
Library of Congress Certified
Literary Braille Proofreader
C: 512 502 4403
e-mail: @Nev
Facebook: m.facebook.com/LiteraryBrailleProofreader

Have you tried using the specific volume command for Youtube itself?
Perhaps somehow, your Firefox is set to cause Youtube to play at a lower
volume.

Start a video playing.
From the top of the page, type b until you get into player commands.
Then, depending on the browser you are using, turn the Virtual Cursor off or

browse mode off.
Tab and shift tab to be sure you are in the player commands. I believe
volume up is up arrow. Press it a lot of times or try ;pressing and holding

it to see if the volume goes up. Others may definitely know the command.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Nevzat Adil
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 9:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Discrepancy Between NVDA and Youtube sounds

The reason why I had a problem with volume on Youtube was because I
was using Firefox. I switched to Crome and I have no problem. I looked
up volume booster for Crome, but I was told the information I get on
websites might change with the use of it. So I decided not to get
it.

On 6/23/20, Aschalew Byness <gakidan.ashagre235@...> wrote:

about the discripancy betwen the volume of YouTube and Nvda, Daniel
wrote here as: 'I use an extension called "sound booster that works"
in Chrome. If the video is too low,, you can click on it, or set a
hotkey to it, so that the video's volume increases. It is fast and
works very well!'. I added the extention to my Chrome. I didn't know
where to klick or how to set hotkies to increase YouTube volume as
much as nvda. solution please?
fondly!On 6/14/20, Nevzat Adil <@Nev> wrote:

Hi every one,
There is a discrepancy between the volume of sound I get from NVDA and
Youtube.
For instance, when I listen to a Youtube video I need to turn the
volume all the way up to hear some sound, but then the volume from
NVDA is at 100%.
Is there a way to equalize the sound volumes of both NVDA and Youtube
so that I won't have to turn up the volume all the way up to listen to
a Youtube video?
Any help would be appreciated.
Nevzat Adil
Library of Congress Certified
Literary Braille Proofreader
C: 512 502 4403
e-mail: @Nev
Facebook: m.facebook.com/LiteraryBrailleProofreader

--
Nevzat Adil
Library of Congress Certified
Literary Braille Proofreader
C: 512 502 4403
e-mail: @Nev
Facebook: m.facebook.com/LiteraryBrailleProofreader