Date   

Re: Is there a good thunderbird tutorial?

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, John,


Gene NZ has a great tutorial on his web site which is www.accessibilitycentral.net. It's under audio tutorials.


Hope this helps.


Rosemarie

On 6/10/2018 7:06 PM, John J. Boyer wrote:
Thanks,
John


Is there a good thunderbird tutorial?

John J. Boyer
 

Thanks,
John

--
John J. Boyer
Email: john.boyer@...
website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
Status: Company dissolved but website and email addresses live.
Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA
Mission: developing assistive technology software and providing STEM services
that are available at no cost


Re: smart speaker

Laurie Mehta
 

Hi Kerryn,
Please feel free to write to me off list since this is off topic for the NVDA list. I have both the Amazon device and the Google device-- gifts from my children-- and will gladly answer your questions about either of these devices if that will be helpful for you.
-Laurie Mehta

--------------------------------------------

On Sun, 6/10/18, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote:

Subject: [nvda] smart speaker
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Sunday, June 10, 2018, 6:35 PM








hi all
so i am think about smart
speakers
which one would u all
recommend
1 echo dot
2 google home
3 google mini
or others
thanks

----- Original Message -----

From:
Howard
Traxler
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Sunday, June
10, 2018 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda]
password
remover



Sorry folks, I know this
does not relate to NVDA,
but it's my response to Kerryn.
 Kerryn,
 
 
Here is a solution to the
password problem that I
have found.  Others here who are much wiser than I
will not recommend it
and I have not tried it yet; but I think I'm going
to.  The software that
you download will create a bootable CD that one would used
to boot the
computer in question.  A program, supposedly, comes
up that allows you to
do things with your password.  One of them is to
remove it.
 
It's kind of a last
resort thing for me; but it's
the only way I will be able to access this computer. 
Others say to
reinstall windows; but I don't know of a computer
today that comes with an
install CD.  I assume there are many packages of this
type; but the one I
downloaded can be found at:
 
https://www.isumsoft.com/windows-password-refixer/
 
Good luck.
 
Howard

----- Original Message
-----
From:
Kerryn
Gunness via GroupsIo

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Sunday, June
10, 2018 6:06
PM
Subject: Re: [nvda]
password
remover


thanks
brian
 

----- Original Message
-----
From:
Brian
Vogel
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Sunday,
June 10, 2018 7:00
PM
Subject: Re:
[nvda] password
remover

Kerryn,

   
      No, it will not.

       
  Passwords exist for a reason:  the
security of the owner and
their data.  It is incumbent on those setting
passwords to do what
they require to have access to them if they cannot
remember them. 
Password security (as in the ability to manipulate
them by the admin) has
gotten progressively tighter over the years, and for
good
reason.

          In the case of a Windows
10 computer if one does not have the password you can
reinstall Windows
10.  You can also extract data from the hard
drive using another
computer and connecting it as an external drive.

--

Brian

-

Windows
10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build
17134  
 
   Explanations
exist; they have existed for all time; there is always
a well-known
solution to every human problem — neat, plausible,
and
wrong.
  
       ~ H.L.
Mencken, AKA
The Sage of Baltimore


smart speaker

Kerryn Gunness
 


hi all
so i am think about smart speakers
which one would u all recommend
1 echo dot
2 google home
3 google mini
or others
thanks

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] password remover

Sorry folks, I know this does not relate to NVDA, but it's my response to Kerryn.
 
Kerryn,
 
 
Here is a solution to the password problem that I have found.  Others here who are much wiser than I will not recommend it and I have not tried it yet; but I think I'm going to.  The software that you download will create a bootable CD that one would used to boot the computer in question.  A program, supposedly, comes up that allows you to do things with your password.  One of them is to remove it.
 
It's kind of a last resort thing for me; but it's the only way I will be able to access this computer.  Others say to reinstall windows; but I don't know of a computer today that comes with an install CD.  I assume there are many packages of this type; but the one I downloaded can be found at:
 
 
Good luck.
 
Howard
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] password remover

thanks brian
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] password remover

Kerryn,

          No, it will not.

          Passwords exist for a reason:  the security of the owner and their data.  It is incumbent on those setting passwords to do what they require to have access to them if they cannot remember them.  Password security (as in the ability to manipulate them by the admin) has gotten progressively tighter over the years, and for good reason.

          In the case of a Windows 10 computer if one does not have the password you can reinstall Windows 10.  You can also extract data from the hard drive using another computer and connecting it as an external drive.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

          ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

 

 


Re: password remover

Kerryn Gunness
 


thank u howard
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] password remover

Sorry folks, I know this does not relate to NVDA, but it's my response to Kerryn.
 
Kerryn,
 
 
Here is a solution to the password problem that I have found.  Others here who are much wiser than I will not recommend it and I have not tried it yet; but I think I'm going to.  The software that you download will create a bootable CD that one would used to boot the computer in question.  A program, supposedly, comes up that allows you to do things with your password.  One of them is to remove it.
 
It's kind of a last resort thing for me; but it's the only way I will be able to access this computer.  Others say to reinstall windows; but I don't know of a computer today that comes with an install CD.  I assume there are many packages of this type; but the one I downloaded can be found at:
 
 
Good luck.
 
Howard
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] password remover

thanks brian
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] password remover

Kerryn,

          No, it will not.

          Passwords exist for a reason:  the security of the owner and their data.  It is incumbent on those setting passwords to do what they require to have access to them if they cannot remember them.  Password security (as in the ability to manipulate them by the admin) has gotten progressively tighter over the years, and for good reason.

          In the case of a Windows 10 computer if one does not have the password you can reinstall Windows 10.  You can also extract data from the hard drive using another computer and connecting it as an external drive.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

          ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

 

 


Re: Feed back on creating a ticket in git hub with nvda

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Gene NZ,


Thanks very much for this information. If I ever have to report an issue, I'll know what to do. I think an audio tutorial would be good too as well as the text one.


Rosemarie




On 6/10/2018 6:29 PM, David Moore wrote:

Hi Gene!

Thanks a lot for this!

I already have an account on Github, but I did not know where to even start!

This will help a lot!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene New Zealand
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 8:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Feed back on creating a ticket in git hub with nvda

 

Hi guys

 

I am putting together a tutorial on making a ticket for nvda in git hub. I know there are users here who do not know how to create one or even where to go or what to do.

 

I know when i do it I put in as much info as i can so hopefully it can be fixed. I just do not want to over do it and make it confusing if they do not have to do it when doing a ticket.

This is in draft so for give any mistakes.

 

Is there stuff i should put into it that i might of left out remember it is for a new user.

 

I will paste in what i have done so far so it can be moved around and is in draft or parts added or deleted.

 

Reporting an issue/bug report to NVACCESS

 

Where to go to issue a bug to be fixed

 

 

If you are a user of the NVDA screen reader wheather you use the next snap shot alfa code, the Master snap shot beata code or the stable version of NVDA that is released to the public, if you come across a bug it can be reported at the following web page at https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues

 

Getting a Git hub account or simply signing in

 

To report any issues to be fixed you must have a Git Hub account.  .

If you do not have a Git Hub account you will need to go to the sign up link then press the enter key. It will ask you for a user name, email address, password and once done locate the create a account button then press the space bar or enter key for it to be created.

If you already have a account it is just a matter of locating the sign in link and entering your details to log into git hub.

 

 

After you have signed into git hub

 

 

After you have signed into git hub to report a issue on your page you will have some links and buttons and headings. The first button is a search button, the second a create new button, the third a view profile and more button, and a sign out button.

Searching for a issue on git hub

 

 

Before you report a issue/bug report to NVACCESS you will need to do a search to see if any one else has reported the bug. If one can not be found then you will need to open a new new issue. This is a button.

 

 

There are some other buttons there but the one you want is new issue button. Press the enter key on it and a new section will come up and ask you the following.

 

You can arrow through the page to see all the sections.

 

Press the enter key on this button and a new section will appear. You can arrow up and down this page to get all the information there or jump around with B for buttons

 

As you go down the page you will hear the following.

This may depend if you arrow down the page or jump down by buttons. If you jump down by buttons you will hear the following. For example add header text button, add bold text button, add atalic text button, insert a quote button, insert code button, add a link button, add a bulleted list button, add a numbered list button, add a task list button, insert a reply button, Directly mention a user or team, Reference an issue or pull request, browse button, submit new issue button.

You may find it easier to arrow through rather than use single letter navigation keys to get all of the information.

 

They will need to know the following In the header text edit area what the issue is. For example

 

Under the ### Steps to reproduce:

> A list of the steps you take to demonstrate the problem.

> Example:

> 1. Open Chrome

> 2. Browse to www.google.com

> 3. Type "Hello"

> 4. Notice an error sound when enter is pressed.

 

> Please also remember to attach a zip of any files required to reproduce the issue.

 

### Expected behavior:

> Tell us what should happen.

 

### Actual behavior:

> Tell us what happens instead.

 

They will also need to know the NVDA version wheather it is a next-14027,c80e529f

Snap shot, or a master snap shot with its version number. Also wheather it is a portable or installed version of NVDA.

 

They may need other information such as if it was > Example: Running in a VM

 

Windows version:

> Example: Windows 10 Version 1607 Build 14393.1066

 

### Other questions:

 

Does the issue still occur after restarting your PC?

 

Have you tried any other versions of NVDA?

> Please list them and the result

 

Browse…

No files selected.

Attach files by dragging & dropping, selecting them, or pasting from the clipboard. 

 

Under this section would be where you would post your NVDA log.

 

Make sure under the general settings in NVDA it is set to Logging level: debug

 

 

After you have filled in the information that that they require locate the submit new issue button and your ticket will be created.

Please note

 

 

For NVACCESS to try and track down any bugs to be fixed you need to have the steps to recreate the problem you are having. Make sure your Logging level: is set to debug is set under the General settings in NVDA. You can also obtain the log which it produces from the Tool.. view log section in NVDA. A log will be produced after you press the enter key on the view log menu. Press the ALT key until a menu drops down then arrow down to you hear NVDA say save log as then press the ENTER key. NVDA will default to the file name then it is a matter of tabbing until you hear a location to save to you are happy with such as the Desk top then shift/tabbing back to the save button then pressing the enter key on the save button.

 

  

For more information on using Git Hub with a screen reader which goes beyond making a ticket please go to the following link at http://bats.fyi/2016/08/19/mastering-github-with-a-screen-reader-part-1/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gene nz

 

 



Re: Feed back on creating a ticket in git hub with nvda

David Moore
 

Hi Gene!

Thanks a lot for this!

I already have an account on Github, but I did not know where to even start!

This will help a lot!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene New Zealand
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 8:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Feed back on creating a ticket in git hub with nvda

 

Hi guys

 

I am putting together a tutorial on making a ticket for nvda in git hub. I know there are users here who do not know how to create one or even where to go or what to do.

 

I know when i do it I put in as much info as i can so hopefully it can be fixed. I just do not want to over do it and make it confusing if they do not have to do it when doing a ticket.

This is in draft so for give any mistakes.

 

Is there stuff i should put into it that i might of left out remember it is for a new user.

 

I will paste in what i have done so far so it can be moved around and is in draft or parts added or deleted.

 

Reporting an issue/bug report to NVACCESS

 

Where to go to issue a bug to be fixed

 

 

If you are a user of the NVDA screen reader wheather you use the next snap shot alfa code, the Master snap shot beata code or the stable version of NVDA that is released to the public, if you come across a bug it can be reported at the following web page at https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues

 

Getting a Git hub account or simply signing in

 

To report any issues to be fixed you must have a Git Hub account.  .

If you do not have a Git Hub account you will need to go to the sign up link then press the enter key. It will ask you for a user name, email address, password and once done locate the create a account button then press the space bar or enter key for it to be created.

If you already have a account it is just a matter of locating the sign in link and entering your details to log into git hub.

 

 

After you have signed into git hub

 

 

After you have signed into git hub to report a issue on your page you will have some links and buttons and headings. The first button is a search button, the second a create new button, the third a view profile and more button, and a sign out button.

Searching for a issue on git hub

 

 

Before you report a issue/bug report to NVACCESS you will need to do a search to see if any one else has reported the bug. If one can not be found then you will need to open a new new issue. This is a button.

 

 

There are some other buttons there but the one you want is new issue button. Press the enter key on it and a new section will come up and ask you the following.

 

You can arrow through the page to see all the sections.

 

Press the enter key on this button and a new section will appear. You can arrow up and down this page to get all the information there or jump around with B for buttons

 

As you go down the page you will hear the following.

This may depend if you arrow down the page or jump down by buttons. If you jump down by buttons you will hear the following. For example add header text button, add bold text button, add atalic text button, insert a quote button, insert code button, add a link button, add a bulleted list button, add a numbered list button, add a task list button, insert a reply button, Directly mention a user or team, Reference an issue or pull request, browse button, submit new issue button.

You may find it easier to arrow through rather than use single letter navigation keys to get all of the information.

 

They will need to know the following In the header text edit area what the issue is. For example

 

Under the ### Steps to reproduce:

> A list of the steps you take to demonstrate the problem.

> Example:

> 1. Open Chrome

> 2. Browse to www.google.com

> 3. Type "Hello"

> 4. Notice an error sound when enter is pressed.

 

> Please also remember to attach a zip of any files required to reproduce the issue.

 

### Expected behavior:

> Tell us what should happen.

 

### Actual behavior:

> Tell us what happens instead.

 

They will also need to know the NVDA version wheather it is a next-14027,c80e529f

Snap shot, or a master snap shot with its version number. Also wheather it is a portable or installed version of NVDA.

 

They may need other information such as if it was > Example: Running in a VM

 

Windows version:

> Example: Windows 10 Version 1607 Build 14393.1066

 

### Other questions:

 

Does the issue still occur after restarting your PC?

 

Have you tried any other versions of NVDA?

> Please list them and the result

 

Browse…

No files selected.

Attach files by dragging & dropping, selecting them, or pasting from the clipboard. 

 

Under this section would be where you would post your NVDA log.

 

Make sure under the general settings in NVDA it is set to Logging level: debug

 

 

After you have filled in the information that that they require locate the submit new issue button and your ticket will be created.

Please note

 

 

For NVACCESS to try and track down any bugs to be fixed you need to have the steps to recreate the problem you are having. Make sure your Logging level: is set to debug is set under the General settings in NVDA. You can also obtain the log which it produces from the Tool.. view log section in NVDA. A log will be produced after you press the enter key on the view log menu. Press the ALT key until a menu drops down then arrow down to you hear NVDA say save log as then press the ENTER key. NVDA will default to the file name then it is a matter of tabbing until you hear a location to save to you are happy with such as the Desk top then shift/tabbing back to the save button then pressing the enter key on the save button.

 

  

For more information on using Git Hub with a screen reader which goes beyond making a ticket please go to the following link at http://bats.fyi/2016/08/19/mastering-github-with-a-screen-reader-part-1/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gene nz

 

 


Feed back on creating a ticket in git hub with nvda

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi guys


I am putting together a tutorial on making a ticket for nvda in git hub. I know there are users here who do not know how to create one or even where to go or what to do.


I know when i do it I put in as much info as i can so hopefully it can be fixed. I just do not want to over do it and make it confusing if they do not have to do it when doing a ticket.

This is in draft so for give any mistakes.


Is there stuff i should put into it that i might of left out remember it is for a new user.


I will paste in what i have done so far so it can be moved around and is in draft or parts added or deleted.


Reporting an issue/bug report to NVACCESS

 

Where to go to issue a bug to be fixed

 

 

If you are a user of the NVDA screen reader wheather you use the next snap shot alfa code, the Master snap shot beata code or the stable version of NVDA that is released to the public, if you come across a bug it can be reported at the following web page at https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues

 

Getting a Git hub account or simply signing in

 

To report any issues to be fixed you must have a Git Hub account.  .

If you do not have a Git Hub account you will need to go to the sign up link then press the enter key. It will ask you for a user name, email address, password and once done locate the create a account button then press the space bar or enter key for it to be created.

If you already have a account it is just a matter of locating the sign in link and entering your details to log into git hub.

 

 

After you have signed into git hub

 

 

After you have signed into git hub to report a issue on your page you will have some links and buttons and headings. The first button is a search button, the second a create new button, the third a view profile and more button, and a sign out button.

Searching for a issue on git hub

 

 

Before you report a issue/bug report to NVACCESS you will need to do a search to see if any one else has reported the bug. If one can not be found then you will need to open a new new issue. This is a button.

 

 

There are some other buttons there but the one you want is new issue button. Press the enter key on it and a new section will come up and ask you the following.

 

You can arrow through the page to see all the sections.

 

Press the enter key on this button and a new section will appear. You can arrow up and down this page to get all the information there or jump around with B for buttons

 

As you go down the page you will hear the following.

This may depend if you arrow down the page or jump down by buttons. If you jump down by buttons you will hear the following. For example add header text button, add bold text button, add atalic text button, insert a quote button, insert code button, add a link button, add a bulleted list button, add a numbered list button, add a task list button, insert a reply button, Directly mention a user or team, Reference an issue or pull request, browse button, submit new issue button.

You may find it easier to arrow through rather than use single letter navigation keys to get all of the information.

 

They will need to know the following In the header text edit area what the issue is. For example

 

Under the ### Steps to reproduce:

> A list of the steps you take to demonstrate the problem.

> Example:

> 1. Open Chrome

> 2. Browse to www.google.com

> 3. Type "Hello"

> 4. Notice an error sound when enter is pressed.

 

> Please also remember to attach a zip of any files required to reproduce the issue.

 

### Expected behavior:

> Tell us what should happen.

 

### Actual behavior:

> Tell us what happens instead.

 

They will also need to know the NVDA version wheather it is a next-14027,c80e529f

 Snap shot, or a master snap shot with its version number. Also wheather it is a portable or installed version of NVDA.

 

They may need other information such as if it was > Example: Running in a VM

 

Windows version:

> Example: Windows 10 Version 1607 Build 14393.1066

 

### Other questions:

 

Does the issue still occur after restarting your PC?

 

Have you tried any other versions of NVDA?

> Please list them and the result

 

Browse…

No files selected.

Attach files by dragging & dropping, selecting them, or pasting from the clipboard. 

 

Under this section would be where you would post your NVDA log.

 

Make sure under the general settings in NVDA it is set to Logging level: debug

 

 

After you have filled in the information that that they require locate the submit new issue button and your ticket will be created.

Please note

 

 

For NVACCESS to try and track down any bugs to be fixed you need to have the steps to recreate the problem you are having. Make sure your Logging level: is set to debug is set under the General settings in NVDA. You can also obtain the log which it produces from the Tool.. view log section in NVDA. A log will be produced after you press the enter key on the view log menu. Press the ALT key until a menu drops down then arrow down to you hear NVDA say save log as then press the ENTER key. NVDA will default to the file name then it is a matter of tabbing until you hear a location to save to you are happy with such as the Desk top then shift/tabbing back to the save button then pressing the enter key on the save button.

 

   

For more information on using Git Hub with a screen reader which goes beyond making a ticket please go to the following link at http://bats.fyi/2016/08/19/mastering-github-with-a-screen-reader-part-1/

 

 

 

 

 

 


Gene nz



Re: password remover

Howard Traxler <howard@...>
 


Sorry folks, I know this does not relate to NVDA, but it's my response to Kerryn.
 
Kerryn,
 
 
Here is a solution to the password problem that I have found.  Others here who are much wiser than I will not recommend it and I have not tried it yet; but I think I'm going to.  The software that you download will create a bootable CD that one would used to boot the computer in question.  A program, supposedly, comes up that allows you to do things with your password.  One of them is to remove it.
 
It's kind of a last resort thing for me; but it's the only way I will be able to access this computer.  Others say to reinstall windows; but I don't know of a computer today that comes with an install CD.  I assume there are many packages of this type; but the one I downloaded can be found at:
 
 
Good luck.
 
Howard

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] password remover

thanks brian
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] password remover

Kerryn,

          No, it will not.

          Passwords exist for a reason:  the security of the owner and their data.  It is incumbent on those setting passwords to do what they require to have access to them if they cannot remember them.  Password security (as in the ability to manipulate them by the admin) has gotten progressively tighter over the years, and for good reason.

          In the case of a Windows 10 computer if one does not have the password you can reinstall Windows 10.  You can also extract data from the hard drive using another computer and connecting it as an external drive.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

          ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

 

 


SPL add-on 18.06.1 brings fixes for wxPython 4 compatibility issues #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

 

For users of StationPlaylist Studio: add-on 18.06.1 is now available (you can check for it via add-on update check facility). This version fixes compatibility issues with wxPython 4.

More info can be found at:

https://github.com/josephsl/stationPlaylist/releases/tag/18.06.1

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Latest snap shot NVDA very sluggish in MS Edge Browser!

David Moore
 

Hi all!

I just wanted you to know that the latest next snapshot of NVDA is not working well in the Edge browser at all. When I press a navigation key, like H for heading, it takes at least ten seconds for NVDA to respond.

NVDA freezes up in Edge a lot, and I have to restart NVDA.

I am using Windows 10 1803.

I just want to ask people if they are experiencing this behavior in Edge?

NVDA was working really well in Edge a week ago!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: password remover

Kerryn Gunness
 


thanks brian
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] password remover

Kerryn,

          No, it will not.

          Passwords exist for a reason:  the security of the owner and their data.  It is incumbent on those setting passwords to do what they require to have access to them if they cannot remember them.  Password security (as in the ability to manipulate them by the admin) has gotten progressively tighter over the years, and for good reason.

          In the case of a Windows 10 computer if one does not have the password you can reinstall Windows 10.  You can also extract data from the hard drive using another computer and connecting it as an external drive.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

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Re: password remover

 

Kerryn,

          No, it will not.

          Passwords exist for a reason:  the security of the owner and their data.  It is incumbent on those setting passwords to do what they require to have access to them if they cannot remember them.  Password security (as in the ability to manipulate them by the admin) has gotten progressively tighter over the years, and for good reason.

          In the case of a Windows 10 computer if one does not have the password you can reinstall Windows 10.  You can also extract data from the hard drive using another computer and connecting it as an external drive.

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Re: password remover

Kerryn Gunness
 


thanks brian, so this will help me to remove a password from a computer even if one does not no the password?
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] password remover

No, nor would I recommend any such software, either.

If you wish to avoid entering a password when booting up Windows 10 (or Windows 8) you can make the operating system enter it for you, getting the same effect.  Download the following, for step-by-step instructions:

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Re: password remover

 

No, nor would I recommend any such software, either.

If you wish to avoid entering a password when booting up Windows 10 (or Windows 8) you can make the operating system enter it for you, getting the same effect.  Download the following, for step-by-step instructions:

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     Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

          ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

 

 


Re: win10 classic applications for administration (system activation)

 

On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 01:54 pm, chris miles wrote:
Have you heard of "Classic Shell" programme?
Classic Shell no longer in development. Source code released


             I always discourage my clients from using overlay programs such as Classic Shell because you then have no idea of how to operate the native user interface.  That has never made any sense to me, even when I intensely disliked the native user interface such as I did for Windows 8.

             It does not appear that anyone has successfully picked up on maintaining Classic Shell, either.  This github page, https://github.com/passionate-coder/, was the attempt at doing so.

             Since Classic Shell went out of support by its creator in December 2017 it is not likely to remain compatible with Windows 10 as time passes.

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wave pad

Kerryn Gunness
 


hi
i need help to use wave pad audio
thanks


Re: NVDA Command to Label Graphics

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


I think this ticket refers to what you are saying. it can be found at https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2111

it may refer to other tickets as well.


There is no graphics label er in NVDA at present.


I thought at one time some one had done a add on so it could be done but i think the comments were to do with how quick the labeled object came up apparently when the add on was installed it slowed nvda down or some thing like that.


Not sure where the add on might be now or even if it exists now.


or even if it was still attached to the ticket.


I know what you are talking about i use the same idea on my android phone to label unlabeled buttons or maybe graphics etc.


Gene nz



On 6/11/2018 2:44 AM, David Tanner wrote:

A friend of mine asked me if there is a way with NVDA to label a graphic such as is possible with Jaws.  I am not aware of a way to do this, and didn’t find a place in the user guide that mentioned it, but maybe I just missed it.

 

Any help here would be greatly appreciated.

 



Re: Here again, this time asking really about NVDA

David Moore
 

I use Internet Explorer for mobile Facebook, and NVDA works fine.

Which browser are you using?

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Here again, this time asking really about NVDA

 

I ended up concluding that it's a problem from Mobile Facebook page.
I've tested it on other websites and surprisingly this doesn't happen.
Out of the mentioned page, it's alright.
Em 10/06/2018 13:29, Sarah k Alawami escreveu:

So are you saying that only in brose mode you can hear the �radio buttons. I think this was also the case on a job application I was reading as well. I had to go into browse mode to check but that was maybe a month ago. I just never �thought about it as I am always in browse mode when trying to fill out forms and stuff.



On Jun 10, 2018, at 1:24 AM, marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21@...> wrote:

 

Strange. Maybe it's happening only with me?...

Em 10/06/2018 05:17, Joseph Lee escreveu:

Hi,
Yes, the mobile interface (m.facebook.com).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 1:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Here again, this time asking really about NVDA

Actually, I only can check/uncheck one of those buttons if �I'm with the browse mode. With the focus mode I can do nothing about it.
You're using m.facebook as I said?
Em 10/06/2018 04:56, Joseph Lee escreveu:

Hi,
So when I try to delete a post with Firefox, when I press Enter on the radio button, NVDA switches me to focus mode and I can then use up and down arrow keys to select a different radio button. NVDA announces selection status as it should. This was also observed with Internet Explorer.
I get a feeling that, perhaps with browse mode, radio button selection status isn't announced right. Is this correct? If so, and if other folks can reproduce this with 2018.1.x:
* If this happens with 2018.1.x as well, then this is either differences in rendering engines, or Facebook made a server-side change.
* If this problem does not happen with 2018.1.x, then it might be 2018.2 issue.
Note that I'm testing these scenarios with latest NVDA next snapshots running on Windows 10.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph
Lee
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 12:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Here again, this time asking really about NVDA

Hi,
Okay, we're getting somewhere. Can someone try to reproduce this, and if possible, with other web browsers such as IE, Chrome, and Edge please? Once we get folks to try and reproduce this, we'll know if this is an NVDA regression, browser rendering differences, or something else.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of marcio
via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 12:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Here again, this time asking really about NVDA

I'm using Firefox, latest version, on the mobile Facebook page.
I was trying to delete a post, so I had to check the button to do it.
Then I noticed this.
Em 10/06/2018 04:39, Joseph Lee escreveu:

Hi there,
Hmmm, I see. Can you go into specifics such as which Facebook page to visit (preferably a public page), whether it is for regular or mobile interface, and web browser you're using?

P.S. For those attending a certain seminar in a few weeks, I'll mention this email thread as a possible case study regarding user interactions and questions to ask them.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of marcio
via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 12:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Here again, this time asking really about NVDA

Any Facebook page with this buttons is having that behavior.
Em 10/06/2018 04:24, Joseph Lee escreveu:

Hello,
Can you tell us how we can reproduce this problem please? Thanks.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of marcio
via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 12:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Here again, this time asking really about NVDA

So, guys, I'm here again :)
This time, I have a question abo ���ut the latest version of NVDA.
In earlier versions, when I had a radio button I could know if it was checked or unchecked.
Now I can't. I don't know if it's something changed on NVDA itself or if it's happening only with me.
If it's something new from this version, I would like to know how I can do my NVDA back to speak the button's status.

Thanks in advance

Marcio
























 

 

 

 


Re: accessible money

Kerryn Gunness
 


thanks again all for your feedback
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money

I think the device is only U.S. becase when the U.S. mint makes the bills the paper has little bar codes on the edge.  The device I got cost a hundred dollars.  There might be more devices like the one I have, don’t know!

 

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

 

From: Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 5:02 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money

 

hi all

thanks again

kevin, do you no the cost of the device? also how does one allow the device to recognise their contry's currency?

thanks

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Kevin

Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2018 11:37 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money

 

U.S. is accessible, there is a little device you can purchase that you slip the end of a bill into the slot of the device.  There are two settings you can select, identify by vibration or have what denomination the bill is spoken to you.

You can buy this from Future Aids or Maxie Aids.

But I’m sure everyone knows this!

 

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

 

From: Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2018 7:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money

 

Gene <gsasner@...> wrote, in part:

Even if you win, the public resentment and ridicule will create enormous ill will toward the recipients and set the whole cause of acceptance and integration back significantly.

Gene

---My response:

I think that this sort of reasoning insults the intelligence of almost everyone, and it does not make sense either.

I am not worried about ill will being spread on account of me wanting to be sure of what money I am exchanging with a business.

Canadian money and Indian money are reasonably accessible, for just two examples I've used. There is no reason for US money to lag in this respect.

-LM

 

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On Sat, 6/9/18, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

 

Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Date: Saturday, June 9, 2018, 1:40 PM

 

 But using that argument,

making money accessible

 when it may not be around much longer can be argued to be

spending a good deal

 of money to correct a problem that may not exist so it

shouldn't be done. 

 After all, it would be hard to justify making a building

wheelchair accessible

 if that building were likely to be torn down in two years

and it wasn't

 providing an essential service.

 

Paper money is so much more

convenient than coins,

 that that is why it was adopted in the first place. 

Accessibility is a

 worthy goal, but if accessibility is done at the expense of

what is generally a

 much better system of doing something for people in general,

it's a pyric

 victory.  Even if you win, the public resentment and

ridicule will create

 enormous ill will toward the recipients and set the whole

cause of acceptance

 and integration back significantly.

 

Gene

 ----- Original Message

-----

 

 From: Ron

Canazzi

 Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2018 7:02 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

 Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible

money

 

 Well, we wouldn't have to learn any more than 5 more

coins.  They could

 be differently shaped for ease of accessibility.  As far as

the jingling,

 to be honest, less and less people use real money any

more.  So this may

 become a moot point anyway.  For example, we are getting a

group of

 Starbucks's restaurants locally in the Buffalo, New York

area that will accept

 nothing but credit or debit cards. So I wonder how long

there will actually be

 any so called legal tender any more anyway.

 

 

 On 6/8/2018 11:03

PM, Gene wrote:

 

   It isn't

reasonable to ask that switching to coins be done. 

    

   I'll use American denominations in examples since

I don't know your

   denominations.  Who is going to be willing to carry

nothing but

   coins?  If I pay for something with a ten dollar coin,

I'm not going to

   want to get four coins for dollars and two quarters, a

dime and a nickel

   back.  If I pay for something with a ten dollar coin and

I'm owed eight

   dollars and twenty cents, I am not going to want to

receive a five dollar

   coin, three one dollar coins and two dimes.  People

aren't going to walk

   around with lots of heavy coins jingling in their pockets

and wearing out the

   material in their clothes. 

    

   and think of all the different coins you would have

to learn.  The

   penny, nickel, dime, quarter, dollar, five dollar, ten,

twenty, fifty,

   assuming you never have a higher denomination. 

    

   Gene

  

   ----- Original Message -----

   

   From: Ron

Canazzi

   

   Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:05 PM

   To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

   Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible

money

  

 

   Hi Kerryn,

  

 

   If you can convince the powers that be in Trinidad to

switch to all coinage

   rather than paper money, that would be the ideal thing to

do.  Most blind

   people here in the United States have no difficulty with

coinage.  The

   pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters are all differently

rimmed and of

   different sizes and weights.  In the United States, we

like our paper

   money.  There was great resistance to any change for

large denominations

   than quarters.  However in a smaller country like

Trinidad, you might

   have less resistance.  Good luck.

  

 

 

   On 6/8/2018 8:29

PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io

   wrote:

   

     

     hi

     we in trinidad would like to make our money

accessible to our blind or

     visually  impaired persons

     what guidelines we should work with as to approach

the powers that be,

     in our meeting on tuesday 12th june, in having this

done, in terms of

     technology, tack tile immages etc

     thanks

      

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