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Re: Possible bug with NVDA and Notepad++

Luke Davis
 

On Tue, 14 Jul 2020, William Wong wrote:

I came across a bug:
This is not a bug. You have conflated (confused) two different kinds of selection.

1. open any txt file with Notepad ++
2. select a start position by nvda f9
That is selecting with review mode. You should then use review commands (number pad in desktop keyboard mode), and then NVDA+F10 when you're finished (possibly twice).

This should only be used when the windows selection commands don't work.

> 3. press ctrl end to move to end of document

You are now moving cursors and such, which changes the screen. That will make review mode commands unpredictable. You can not use cursor movement commands while using review commands, and expect the review commands to keep working.

4. press nvda f10 to mark as end position
The review mode is only intended to work on a static screen. When you start changing the screen out from under it, you can't expect the review mode copy method to work any more. It's not a bug, that's how it's supposed to work. In fact it can't be any other way.

In an environment like NotepadPlusPlus, you can just use normal Windows selection and copy commands. Control+A to select all; Shift and arrow keys to select by character or line; shift and control+arrow keys to select words; Shift and home/end to select to start/end of line; and shift+control+home/end to select to the beginning/end of the document.

You should leave NVDA+F9/F10 out of it in applications like this.

Luke


Re: Possible bug with NVDA and Notepad++

Gene
 

Holding shift and using any movement commands will select text. It isn't just the arrow keys. Control shift home will select the text from where you are to the top of the document. Control shift end will select text to the end of the document.
Shift home will select text from wherever you are on a line to the start of the line. Control end will select text to the end of the line.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: William Wong
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 4:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Possible bug with NVDA and Notepad++

Do you know the window way of selecting text?


Do you mean by ctrl shift up or down, left or right to select text?


Gene 於 14/7/2020 17:30 寫道:
The procedure you are using is intended for selecting and copying text when there is no cursor, such as in an error message. Do you know the Windows way of selecting text?

If this bug is a general one, it needs to be corrected but it appears many people use this method for selecting and copying text when the Windows method is available. The Windows method requires less key strokes and should be known because it is a part of Windows and is independent of any screen-reader.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: zahra
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 4:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Possible bug with NVDA and Notepad++

hello.
i reproduce cant selected text in firefox too.
its not specific for notepad plus plus.

On 7/14/20, William Wong <@WaiWilliam> wrote:
Hi,

For the sake of posting replicated issue on Github, I would like to
raise the issue here.


I came across a bug:

1. open any txt file with Notepad ++

2. select a start position by nvda f9

3. press ctrl end to move to end of document

4. press nvda f10 to mark as end position

5. sometimes nvda can perform selection, but will not automatically
speak the selected text, whereas sometimes nvda may say unable to select
text.

I am not sure if this is a bug, or any one can give me any feedback?
thanks.







Re: Automatic Column and Row Header Reading

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Tyler,

 

I normally keep Tables unchecked in the document formatting settings in NVDA because NVDA becomes extremely sluggish when it is set and frequently lapses into Unknown. When I leave Tables unchecked, I can still set the row and column headings and the NVDA response is much sharper.

 

Does this make sense?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Taylor via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 12:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Automatic Column and Row Header Reading

 

Thank you, Tyler. No, it wasn't, and this is precisely what I needed to do. I have this off for usual activity, and clearly I'm going to have to set up a trigger. If this isn't mentioned in the documentation along with the need for enabling row/column headers which I did know about, it may be worth including.

Thanks again.

Sam

 

On 14/07/2020 9:31 am, Tyler Spivey wrote:

Is Tables checked in NVDA, Preferences, Settings, Document Formatting?
If not, check it.
 
On 7/13/2020 3:46 PM, Sam Taylor via groups.io wrote:
Thanks Cearbhall,
 
I have constructed a test workbook without any blank lines. Still I
cannot get NVDA to read the coordinates as it should. I have tested with
NVDA 2019 and 2017 with the same result, so I am beginning to wonder
whether there is some type of setting in Excel itself which is causing
this to happen.
 
Thanks
 
Sam
 
 
On 13/07/2020 11:00 pm, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
 
Sam,
 
 
 
Have you any blank columns separating blocks of columns. If so, you
would need to set the column headings on the first cell in the heading
row of each block to make NVDA call out the column headings for that
block.
 
 
 
All the best,
 
 
 
Cearbhall
 
 
 
m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...
 
 
 
 
 
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Sam
Taylor via groups.io
*Sent:* Monday, July 13, 2020 11:08 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Automatic Column and Row Header Reading
 
 
 
Yep, I did that also, but still nothing appears to change. I followed
the example in the Excel with NVDA study material.
 
 
 
 
 
On 13/07/2020 6:00 pm, Quentin Christensen wrote:
 
    You need to tell NVDA where the headers are for it to read them. 
    Press NVDA+shift+c to set column headers and NVDA+shift+r to set
    row headers.  Note that you need to be in the first cell you want
    headers read.
 
     
 
    Quentin
 
     
 
    On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 5:30 PM Sam Taylor via groups.io
    <http://groups.io> <samtaylor9@...
    <mailto:me.com@groups.io>> wrote:
 
        Hi all,
 
        11.2.1 of the NVDA user guide mentions that NVDA is able to
        automatically announce appropriate row and column headers when
        navigating around Excel worksheets.
 
        I used to be able to achieve this but it doesn't appear to
        work for me any more, and indeed as of NVDA 2019.3.
 
        The cell coordinates just appear to read as usual, rather than
        reading any additional cell references.
 
        I have enabled the Report Table row / column headers option in
        NVDA's Document Formatting settings.
 
        y duCan anybodyplicate or suggest anything? This is highly
        likely to be user error.
 
        Cheers
 
        Sam
 
         
 
 
     
 
    -- 
 
    Quentin Christensen
    Training and Support Manager
 
     
 
    Web: www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/> 
 
    Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
 
    Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
 
    User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
 
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    Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>
 
 
 
 
 


Re: Possible bug with NVDA and Notepad++

William Wong
 

Do you know the window way of selecting text?


Do you mean by ctrl shift up or down, left or right to select text?


Gene 於 14/7/2020 17:30 寫道:

The procedure you are using is intended for selecting and copying text when there is no cursor, such as in an error message.  Do you know the Windows way of selecting text?

If this bug is a general one, it needs to be corrected but it appears many people use this method for selecting and copying text when the Windows method is available.  The Windows method requires less key strokes and should be known because it is a part of Windows and is independent of any screen-reader.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: zahra
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 4:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Possible bug with NVDA and Notepad++

hello.
i reproduce cant selected text in firefox too.
its not specific for notepad plus plus.

On 7/14/20, William Wong <@WaiWilliam> wrote:
Hi,

For the sake of posting replicated issue on Github, I would like to
raise the issue here.


I came across a bug:

1. open any txt file with Notepad ++

2. select a start position by nvda f9

3. press ctrl end to move to end of document

4. press nvda f10 to mark as end position

5. sometimes nvda can perform selection, but will not automatically
speak the selected text, whereas sometimes nvda may say unable to select
text.

I am not sure if this is a bug, or any one can give me any feedback?
thanks.







Re: Possible bug with NVDA and Notepad++

Gene
 

The procedure you are using is intended for selecting and copying text when there is no cursor, such as in an error message. Do you know the Windows way of selecting text?

If this bug is a general one, it needs to be corrected but it appears many people use this method for selecting and copying text when the Windows method is available. The Windows method requires less key strokes and should be known because it is a part of Windows and is independent of any screen-reader.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: zahra
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 4:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Possible bug with NVDA and Notepad++

hello.
i reproduce cant selected text in firefox too.
its not specific for notepad plus plus.

On 7/14/20, William Wong <@WaiWilliam> wrote:
Hi,

For the sake of posting replicated issue on Github, I would like to
raise the issue here.


I came across a bug:

1. open any txt file with Notepad ++

2. select a start position by nvda f9

3. press ctrl end to move to end of document

4. press nvda f10 to mark as end position

5. sometimes nvda can perform selection, but will not automatically
speak the selected text, whereas sometimes nvda may say unable to select
text.

I am not sure if this is a bug, or any one can give me any feedback?
thanks.







--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Automatic Column and Row Header Reading

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Sam,

 

Are you able to edit text in each individual cell? If not, that might be a pointer to an Excel option that need to be set

 

We used to have to make sure that Allow editing in cells under the advanced tab in Excel > Options in order to make NVDA work while editing, for example.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Taylor via groups.io
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2020 11:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Automatic Column and Row Header Reading

 

Thanks Cearbhall,

I have constructed a test workbook without any blank lines. Still I cannot get NVDA to read the coordinates as it should. I have tested with NVDA 2019 and 2017 with the same result, so I am beginning to wonder whether there is some type of setting in Excel itself which is causing this to happen.

Thanks

Sam

 

On 13/07/2020 11:00 pm, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Sam,

 

Have you any blank columns separating blocks of columns. If so, you would need to set the column headings on the first cell in the heading row of each block to make NVDA call out the column headings for that block.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Taylor via groups.io
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2020 11:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Automatic Column and Row Header Reading

 

Yep, I did that also, but still nothing appears to change. I followed the example in the Excel with NVDA study material.

 

 

On 13/07/2020 6:00 pm, Quentin Christensen wrote:

You need to tell NVDA where the headers are for it to read them.  Press NVDA+shift+c to set column headers and NVDA+shift+r to set row headers.  Note that you need to be in the first cell you want headers read.

 

Quentin

 

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 5:30 PM Sam Taylor via groups.io <samtaylor9=me.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi all,

11.2.1 of the NVDA user guide mentions that NVDA is able to automatically announce appropriate row and column headers when navigating around Excel worksheets.

I used to be able to achieve this but it doesn't appear to work for me any more, and indeed as of NVDA 2019.3.

The cell coordinates just appear to read as usual, rather than reading any additional cell references.

I have enabled the Report Table row / column headers option in NVDA's Document Formatting settings.

y duCan anybodyplicate or suggest anything? This is highly likely to be user error.

Cheers

Sam

 


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 


Re: Possible bug with NVDA and Notepad++

 

hello.
i reproduce cant selected text in firefox too.
its not specific for notepad plus plus.

On 7/14/20, William Wong <@WaiWilliam> wrote:
Hi,

For the sake of posting replicated issue on Github, I would like to
raise the issue here.


I came across a bug:

1. open any txt file with Notepad ++

2. select a start position by nvda f9

3. press ctrl end to move to end of document

4. press nvda f10 to mark as end position

5. sometimes nvda can perform selection, but will not automatically
speak the selected text, whereas sometimes nvda may say unable to select
text.

I am not sure if this is a bug, or any one can give me any feedback?
thanks.






--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Possible bug with NVDA and Notepad++

William Wong
 

Hi,

For the sake of posting replicated issue on Github, I would like to raise the issue here.


I came across a bug:

1. open any txt file with Notepad ++

2. select a start position by nvda f9

3. press ctrl end to move to end of document

4. press nvda f10 to mark as end position

5. sometimes nvda can perform selection, but will not automatically speak the selected text, whereas sometimes nvda may say unable to select text.

I am not sure if this is a bug, or any one can give me any feedback? thanks.


Re: Current status of Tiflotecnia voices?

Socheat Muth
 

Hi all,

Sorry for reviving this topic. But will the new voices be added in the future? I'm asking this because it seems that some new voices are missing. Like, Nathan, and some more new voices that I couldn't remember off the top of my head. They are all in vocalizer expressive V2.2. Again, will the Tiflotecnia's vocalizer gets these voices in the future? If these more voices added, will the customer require to pay for the upgrade?

Many thanks.


Re: Automatic Column and Row Header Reading

Sam Taylor
 

Many thanks Quentin. Works perfectly.


On 14/07/2020 10:11 am, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Good pickup, yes you need to have NVDA set to report "tables", as well as column and row headers in NVDA's document formatting for this to work.  It's not well documented so I will ensure this is updated and noted in the User Guiide and Excel module.

If you otherwise prefer to have reporting of tables off, you can setup a configuration profile for Excel which has this setting enabled:

1) Open Excel
2) Press NVDA+control+p to open the configuration profiles dialog
3) press alt+n to create a new profile
4) Leave the name and press tab once to "use this profile for".
5) press the right arrow to move to "Current application (Excel)
6) Press Enter.

That creates the profile and now any change you make to NVDA's settings while in Excel will be saved in this profile rather than the "normal" profile.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 9:48 AM Sam Taylor via groups.io <samtaylor9=me.com@groups.io> wrote:

Thank you, Tyler. No, it wasn't, and this is precisely what I needed to do. I have this off for usual activity, and clearly I'm going to have to set up a trigger. If this isn't mentioned in the documentation along with the need for enabling row/column headers which I did know about, it may be worth including.

Thanks again.

Sam


On 14/07/2020 9:31 am, Tyler Spivey wrote:
Is Tables checked in NVDA, Preferences, Settings, Document Formatting?
If not, check it.

On 7/13/2020 3:46 PM, Sam Taylor via groups.io wrote:
Thanks Cearbhall,

I have constructed a test workbook without any blank lines. Still I
cannot get NVDA to read the coordinates as it should. I have tested with
NVDA 2019 and 2017 with the same result, so I am beginning to wonder
whether there is some type of setting in Excel itself which is causing
this to happen.

Thanks

Sam


On 13/07/2020 11:00 pm, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
Sam,

 

Have you any blank columns separating blocks of columns. If so, you
would need to set the column headings on the first cell in the heading
row of each block to make NVDA call out the column headings for that
block.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Sam
Taylor via groups.io
*Sent:* Monday, July 13, 2020 11:08 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Automatic Column and Row Header Reading

 

Yep, I did that also, but still nothing appears to change. I followed
the example in the Excel with NVDA study material.

 

 

On 13/07/2020 6:00 pm, Quentin Christensen wrote:

    You need to tell NVDA where the headers are for it to read them. 
    Press NVDA+shift+c to set column headers and NVDA+shift+r to set
    row headers.  Note that you need to be in the first cell you want
    headers read.

     

    Quentin

     

    On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 5:30 PM Sam Taylor via groups.io
    <http://groups.io> <samtaylor9@...
    <mailto:me.com@groups.io>> wrote:

        Hi all,

        11.2.1 of the NVDA user guide mentions that NVDA is able to
        automatically announce appropriate row and column headers when
        navigating around Excel worksheets.

        I used to be able to achieve this but it doesn't appear to
        work for me any more, and indeed as of NVDA 2019.3.

        The cell coordinates just appear to read as usual, rather than
        reading any additional cell references.

        I have enabled the Report Table row / column headers option in
        NVDA's Document Formatting settings.

        y duCan anybodyplicate or suggest anything? This is highly
        likely to be user error.

        Cheers

        Sam

         


     

    -- 

    Quentin Christensen
    Training and Support Manager

     

    Web: www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/> 

    Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

    Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

    User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

    Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
    Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: Automatic Column and Row Header Reading

Quentin Christensen
 

Good pickup, yes you need to have NVDA set to report "tables", as well as column and row headers in NVDA's document formatting for this to work.  It's not well documented so I will ensure this is updated and noted in the User Guiide and Excel module.

If you otherwise prefer to have reporting of tables off, you can setup a configuration profile for Excel which has this setting enabled:

1) Open Excel
2) Press NVDA+control+p to open the configuration profiles dialog
3) press alt+n to create a new profile
4) Leave the name and press tab once to "use this profile for".
5) press the right arrow to move to "Current application (Excel)
6) Press Enter.

That creates the profile and now any change you make to NVDA's settings while in Excel will be saved in this profile rather than the "normal" profile.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 9:48 AM Sam Taylor via groups.io <samtaylor9=me.com@groups.io> wrote:

Thank you, Tyler. No, it wasn't, and this is precisely what I needed to do. I have this off for usual activity, and clearly I'm going to have to set up a trigger. If this isn't mentioned in the documentation along with the need for enabling row/column headers which I did know about, it may be worth including.

Thanks again.

Sam


On 14/07/2020 9:31 am, Tyler Spivey wrote:
Is Tables checked in NVDA, Preferences, Settings, Document Formatting?
If not, check it.

On 7/13/2020 3:46 PM, Sam Taylor via groups.io wrote:
Thanks Cearbhall,

I have constructed a test workbook without any blank lines. Still I
cannot get NVDA to read the coordinates as it should. I have tested with
NVDA 2019 and 2017 with the same result, so I am beginning to wonder
whether there is some type of setting in Excel itself which is causing
this to happen.

Thanks

Sam


On 13/07/2020 11:00 pm, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
Sam,

 

Have you any blank columns separating blocks of columns. If so, you
would need to set the column headings on the first cell in the heading
row of each block to make NVDA call out the column headings for that
block.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Sam
Taylor via groups.io
*Sent:* Monday, July 13, 2020 11:08 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Automatic Column and Row Header Reading

 

Yep, I did that also, but still nothing appears to change. I followed
the example in the Excel with NVDA study material.

 

 

On 13/07/2020 6:00 pm, Quentin Christensen wrote:

    You need to tell NVDA where the headers are for it to read them. 
    Press NVDA+shift+c to set column headers and NVDA+shift+r to set
    row headers.  Note that you need to be in the first cell you want
    headers read.

     

    Quentin

     

    On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 5:30 PM Sam Taylor via groups.io
    <http://groups.io> <samtaylor9@...
    <mailto:me.com@groups.io>> wrote:

        Hi all,

        11.2.1 of the NVDA user guide mentions that NVDA is able to
        automatically announce appropriate row and column headers when
        navigating around Excel worksheets.

        I used to be able to achieve this but it doesn't appear to
        work for me any more, and indeed as of NVDA 2019.3.

        The cell coordinates just appear to read as usual, rather than
        reading any additional cell references.

        I have enabled the Report Table row / column headers option in
        NVDA's Document Formatting settings.

        y duCan anybodyplicate or suggest anything? This is highly
        likely to be user error.

        Cheers

        Sam

         


     

    -- 

    Quentin Christensen
    Training and Support Manager

     

    Web: www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/> 

    Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

    Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

    User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

    Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
    Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>


      

    



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: Automatic Column and Row Header Reading

Sam Taylor
 

Thank you, Tyler. No, it wasn't, and this is precisely what I needed to do. I have this off for usual activity, and clearly I'm going to have to set up a trigger. If this isn't mentioned in the documentation along with the need for enabling row/column headers which I did know about, it may be worth including.

Thanks again.

Sam


On 14/07/2020 9:31 am, Tyler Spivey wrote:
Is Tables checked in NVDA, Preferences, Settings, Document Formatting?
If not, check it.

On 7/13/2020 3:46 PM, Sam Taylor via groups.io wrote:
Thanks Cearbhall,

I have constructed a test workbook without any blank lines. Still I
cannot get NVDA to read the coordinates as it should. I have tested with
NVDA 2019 and 2017 with the same result, so I am beginning to wonder
whether there is some type of setting in Excel itself which is causing
this to happen.

Thanks

Sam


On 13/07/2020 11:00 pm, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
Sam,

 

Have you any blank columns separating blocks of columns. If so, you
would need to set the column headings on the first cell in the heading
row of each block to make NVDA call out the column headings for that
block.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Sam
Taylor via groups.io
*Sent:* Monday, July 13, 2020 11:08 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Automatic Column and Row Header Reading

 

Yep, I did that also, but still nothing appears to change. I followed
the example in the Excel with NVDA study material.

 

 

On 13/07/2020 6:00 pm, Quentin Christensen wrote:

    You need to tell NVDA where the headers are for it to read them. 
    Press NVDA+shift+c to set column headers and NVDA+shift+r to set
    row headers.  Note that you need to be in the first cell you want
    headers read.

     

    Quentin

     

    On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 5:30 PM Sam Taylor via groups.io
    <http://groups.io> <samtaylor9@...
    <mailto:me.com@groups.io>> wrote:

        Hi all,

        11.2.1 of the NVDA user guide mentions that NVDA is able to
        automatically announce appropriate row and column headers when
        navigating around Excel worksheets.

        I used to be able to achieve this but it doesn't appear to
        work for me any more, and indeed as of NVDA 2019.3.

        The cell coordinates just appear to read as usual, rather than
        reading any additional cell references.

        I have enabled the Report Table row / column headers option in
        NVDA's Document Formatting settings.

        y duCan anybodyplicate or suggest anything? This is highly
        likely to be user error.

        Cheers

        Sam

         


     

    -- 

    Quentin Christensen
    Training and Support Manager

     

    Web: www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/> 

    Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

    Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

    User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

    Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
    Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>


      



Re: Automatic Column and Row Header Reading

Tyler Spivey
 

Is Tables checked in NVDA, Preferences, Settings, Document Formatting?
If not, check it.

On 7/13/2020 3:46 PM, Sam Taylor via groups.io wrote:
Thanks Cearbhall,

I have constructed a test workbook without any blank lines. Still I
cannot get NVDA to read the coordinates as it should. I have tested with
NVDA 2019 and 2017 with the same result, so I am beginning to wonder
whether there is some type of setting in Excel itself which is causing
this to happen.

Thanks

Sam


On 13/07/2020 11:00 pm, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Sam,

 

Have you any blank columns separating blocks of columns. If so, you
would need to set the column headings on the first cell in the heading
row of each block to make NVDA call out the column headings for that
block.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Sam
Taylor via groups.io
*Sent:* Monday, July 13, 2020 11:08 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Automatic Column and Row Header Reading

 

Yep, I did that also, but still nothing appears to change. I followed
the example in the Excel with NVDA study material.

 

 

On 13/07/2020 6:00 pm, Quentin Christensen wrote:

You need to tell NVDA where the headers are for it to read them. 
Press NVDA+shift+c to set column headers and NVDA+shift+r to set
row headers.  Note that you need to be in the first cell you want
headers read.

 

Quentin

 

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 5:30 PM Sam Taylor via groups.io
<http://groups.io> <samtaylor9=me.com@groups.io
<mailto:me.com@groups.io>> wrote:

Hi all,

11.2.1 of the NVDA user guide mentions that NVDA is able to
automatically announce appropriate row and column headers when
navigating around Excel worksheets.

I used to be able to achieve this but it doesn't appear to
work for me any more, and indeed as of NVDA 2019.3.

The cell coordinates just appear to read as usual, rather than
reading any additional cell references.

I have enabled the Report Table row / column headers option in
NVDA's Document Formatting settings.

y duCan anybodyplicate or suggest anything? This is highly
likely to be user error.

Cheers

Sam

 


 

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Re: Automatic Column and Row Header Reading

 

Sam,

          Have you tried setting a heading row (for the columns beneath it) and/or a heading column (for the row to the right of it) in Excel itself?  I have found that this tends to work, and across screen readers, better than doing said definition via the screen reader itself.

           This can be done whether or not one is using an actual table in a spreadsheet or not.

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Re: Automatic Column and Row Header Reading

Sam Taylor
 

Thanks Cearbhall,

I have constructed a test workbook without any blank lines. Still I cannot get NVDA to read the coordinates as it should. I have tested with NVDA 2019 and 2017 with the same result, so I am beginning to wonder whether there is some type of setting in Excel itself which is causing this to happen.

Thanks

Sam


On 13/07/2020 11:00 pm, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Sam,

 

Have you any blank columns separating blocks of columns. If so, you would need to set the column headings on the first cell in the heading row of each block to make NVDA call out the column headings for that block.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Taylor via groups.io
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2020 11:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Automatic Column and Row Header Reading

 

Yep, I did that also, but still nothing appears to change. I followed the example in the Excel with NVDA study material.

 

 

On 13/07/2020 6:00 pm, Quentin Christensen wrote:

You need to tell NVDA where the headers are for it to read them.  Press NVDA+shift+c to set column headers and NVDA+shift+r to set row headers.  Note that you need to be in the first cell you want headers read.

 

Quentin

 

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 5:30 PM Sam Taylor via groups.io <samtaylor9=me.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi all,

11.2.1 of the NVDA user guide mentions that NVDA is able to automatically announce appropriate row and column headers when navigating around Excel worksheets.

I used to be able to achieve this but it doesn't appear to work for me any more, and indeed as of NVDA 2019.3.

The cell coordinates just appear to read as usual, rather than reading any additional cell references.

I have enabled the Report Table row / column headers option in NVDA's Document Formatting settings.

y duCan anybodyplicate or suggest anything? This is highly likely to be user error.

Cheers

Sam

 


 

--

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Training and Support Manager

 


Re: nvda not speaking program/icon on the desktop when pressing first letter

Gene
 

Object review is the default. You should still be on it. I doubt being in object review will help your problem, but if you are in it and use read current line, the location will be read correctly.

If you are using the desktop layout, issue the command NVDA key numpad 1. If you hear no previous review mode, you are in object navigation. If you don't know, numpad 1 is the farthest key to the left on the numpad on the row above the numpad NVDA key.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Fresh Start
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2020 4:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda not speaking program/icon on the desktop when pressing first letter

Sorry to sound silly, but how do I change between object and screen review.
I haven't made any changes from the default.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2020 4:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda not speaking program/icon on the desktop when
pressing first letter

Did you try reading current line after moving? You may get a solution to
the problem but if it works, you can move as you wish whether the problem is
solved or not.

Also,, and I doubt this will help but you never know, make sure you are in
object review, not screen review. You should be in object review whether
you use read current line or move without using it.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Fresh Start
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2020 4:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda not speaking program/icon on the desktop when
pressing first letter

Hi everyone, I did disable the one addon, clipspeak most current version.
There isn't any change concerning first letter navigation on the desktop or
in a list of files.
Speech other than that is working fine. But it would be nice to move by the
first letter navigation. So if anyone has any ideas how to get it back I
would appreciate them. I have NVDA on two three computers and all works
fine. Thanks for responding to my questions.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 3:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda not speaking program/icon on the desktop when
pressing first letter

Hi,
I suspect NVDA is not being notified about selection changes, sometimes
caused by an add-on or a setting interfering with what NVDA is supposed to
do. To test, try restarting with all add-ons disabled, and if that solves
the issue, we can move onto isolating individual add-ons.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 1:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda not speaking program/icon on the desktop when
pressing first letter

The original message doesn't say there is no speech. It gives one specific
condition where there is no speech, when you use first letter navigation in
a list. Since there is speech, the possible solutions don't apply.

I have no reason why no speech occurs at that one specific time. Using read
current line should easily solve the problem and the command takes almost no
time to execute. It may be possible to find the reason by examining the log
but there are some problems that are so minor and so easily worked around
that they aren't worth solving, though you may, if you wish to, pursue it,
of course.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 2:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda not speaking program/icon on the desktop when
pressing first letter



Hi




I am sure you would of checked the following on the computer.




One that his speakers are plugged into the right whole and turned on.




On the computer the sound is not muted.




Press the windows key + letter R to bring up the run dialogue then type in
sndvol then press the enter key.




The next screen that comes up will have the master volume make sure it is
right up so you can hear it and not down on zero.




There is a box under it if checked it will mute the sound so make sure it is

un checked.




If you can see nvda is running but not talking under that section I think
there is a slider to make it louder there.




Also check when nvda is running that under the synth settings in nvda you
press the nvda key + ctrl key + the letter S to bring it up.




Make sure under the synth section that it has a synth there and not set to
no speech if it is set to that change it to e speak or another synth
package.




Gene nz




On 13/07/2020 2:25 am, Fresh Start wrote:


Hi All, I am using NVDA 20.1 on a client's windows ten pro laptop. When on
the desktop or in a list of programs or files, NVDA doesn't speak the name
of a program or file when pressing it's first letter. However, the cursor
does go to the location. I know this by arrowing up and then down. I tried

maximizing but didn't cause any change in behavior. Any ideas to resolve
the problem? Thanks in advance.

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Re: nvda not speaking program/icon on the desktop when pressing first letter

 

Hi,

Do the following as exactly as I tell you:

  1. Press NVDA key and Q to open Exit NVDA dialog.
  2. From Exit NVDA dialog, select “restart with debug logging enabled” and press Enter.
  3. Use NVDA as you would, including from files and folders list.
  4. After the problem is reproduced, press NVDA key and F1, copy everything, and paste it as a private email to me (private email is required to protect privacy and to comply with debug log data policy on this forum). After I get the log and do some work, I’ll come back here and let folks know what might be happening.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Fresh Start
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2020 2:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda not speaking program/icon on the desktop when pressing first letter

 

Yes it still did so I should send a log.  Please explain how to do that please.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2020 4:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda not speaking program/icon on the desktop when pressing first letter

 

Did you restart with all add ons disabled per someone's instructions and see if it happens then? If it does, send a log to the nvda support folks.

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On 13 Jul 2020, at 14:13, Fresh Start wrote:

Hi everyone, I did disable the one addon, clipspeak most current version.
There isn't any change concerning first letter navigation on the desktop or
in a list of files.
Speech other than that is working fine. But it would be nice to move by the
first letter navigation. So if anyone has any ideas how to get it back I
would appreciate them. I have NVDA on two three computers and all works
fine. Thanks for responding to my questions.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 3:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda not speaking program/icon on the desktop when
pressing first letter

Hi,
I suspect NVDA is not being notified about selection changes, sometimes
caused by an add-on or a setting interfering with what NVDA is supposed to
do. To test, try restarting with all add-ons disabled, and if that solves
the issue, we can move onto isolating individual add-ons.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 1:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda not speaking program/icon on the desktop when
pressing first letter

The original message doesn't say there is no speech. It gives one specific
condition where there is no speech, when you use first letter navigation in
a list. Since there is speech, the possible solutions don't apply.

I have no reason why no speech occurs at that one specific time. Using read
current line should easily solve the problem and the command takes almost no
time to execute. It may be possible to find the reason by examining the log
but there are some problems that are so minor and so easily worked around
that they aren't worth solving, though you may, if you wish to, pursue it,
of course.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 2:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda not speaking program/icon on the desktop when
pressing first letter

Hi

I am sure you would of checked the following on the computer.

One that his speakers are plugged into the right whole and turned on.

On the computer the sound is not muted.

Press the windows key + letter R to bring up the run dialogue then type in
sndvol then press the enter key.

The next screen that comes up will have the master volume make sure it is
right up so you can hear it and not down on zero.

There is a box under it if checked it will mute the sound so make sure it is

un checked.

If you can see nvda is running but not talking under that section I think
there is a slider to make it louder there.

Also check when nvda is running that under the synth settings in nvda you
press the nvda key + ctrl key + the letter S to bring it up.

Make sure under the synth section that it has a synth there and not set to
no speech if it is set to that change it to e speak or another synth
package.

Gene nz

On 13/07/2020 2:25 am, Fresh Start wrote:

Hi All, I am using NVDA 20.1 on a client's windows ten pro laptop. When on
the desktop or in a list of programs or files, NVDA doesn't speak the name
of a program or file when pressing it's first letter. However, the cursor
does go to the location. I know this by arrowing up and then down. I tried

maximizing but didn't cause any change in behavior. Any ideas to resolve
the problem? Thanks in advance.

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Re: nvda not speaking program/icon on the desktop when pressing first letter

 

Hi,
Don't worry about object and screen review modes for now because it isn't
related to this issue (for those wondering: review modes are reset when NVDA
restarts, so this has nothing to do with this issue).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Fresh Start
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2020 2:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda not speaking program/icon on the desktop when
pressing first letter

Sorry to sound silly, but how do I change between object and screen review.
I haven't made any changes from the default.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2020 4:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda not speaking program/icon on the desktop when
pressing first letter

Did you try reading current line after moving? You may get a solution to
the problem but if it works, you can move as you wish whether the problem is
solved or not.

Also,, and I doubt this will help but you never know, make sure you are in
object review, not screen review. You should be in object review whether
you use read current line or move without using it.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Fresh Start
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2020 4:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda not speaking program/icon on the desktop when
pressing first letter

Hi everyone, I did disable the one addon, clipspeak most current version.
There isn't any change concerning first letter navigation on the desktop or
in a list of files.
Speech other than that is working fine. But it would be nice to move by the
first letter navigation. So if anyone has any ideas how to get it back I
would appreciate them. I have NVDA on two three computers and all works
fine. Thanks for responding to my questions.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 3:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda not speaking program/icon on the desktop when
pressing first letter

Hi,
I suspect NVDA is not being notified about selection changes, sometimes
caused by an add-on or a setting interfering with what NVDA is supposed to
do. To test, try restarting with all add-ons disabled, and if that solves
the issue, we can move onto isolating individual add-ons.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 1:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda not speaking program/icon on the desktop when
pressing first letter

The original message doesn't say there is no speech. It gives one specific
condition where there is no speech, when you use first letter navigation in
a list. Since there is speech, the possible solutions don't apply.

I have no reason why no speech occurs at that one specific time. Using read
current line should easily solve the problem and the command takes almost no
time to execute. It may be possible to find the reason by examining the log
but there are some problems that are so minor and so easily worked around
that they aren't worth solving, though you may, if you wish to, pursue it,
of course.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 2:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda not speaking program/icon on the desktop when
pressing first letter



Hi




I am sure you would of checked the following on the computer.




One that his speakers are plugged into the right whole and turned on.




On the computer the sound is not muted.




Press the windows key + letter R to bring up the run dialogue then type in
sndvol then press the enter key.




The next screen that comes up will have the master volume make sure it is
right up so you can hear it and not down on zero.




There is a box under it if checked it will mute the sound so make sure it is

un checked.




If you can see nvda is running but not talking under that section I think
there is a slider to make it louder there.




Also check when nvda is running that under the synth settings in nvda you
press the nvda key + ctrl key + the letter S to bring it up.




Make sure under the synth section that it has a synth there and not set to
no speech if it is set to that change it to e speak or another synth
package.




Gene nz




On 13/07/2020 2:25 am, Fresh Start wrote:


Hi All, I am using NVDA 20.1 on a client's windows ten pro laptop. When on
the desktop or in a list of programs or files, NVDA doesn't speak the name
of a program or file when pressing it's first letter. However, the cursor
does go to the location. I know this by arrowing up and then down. I tried

maximizing but didn't cause any change in behavior. Any ideas to resolve
the problem? Thanks in advance.

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Re: nvda not speaking program/icon on the desktop when pressing first letter

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Out of curiosity do you have your computer connected to a tv via a hdmi cable? or is it computer to monitor or a lap top.


I have a pc connected to a tv via hdmi from the pc and it done weird stuff like you said.


It would do some thing weird like that and might only say the first letter not the word on the pc some stuff it would speak correctly and others not.


I think for it to work correctly I have to update the drivers for the hdmi audio or what ever it is called.

It seemed laggy to at present I have not updated it so do not know if it would fix it.


But I went back and done it from the speaker out on the pc to speakers and it worked properly.



I thought it might of been a sound driver problem which I think it was wither either the tv causing it which I would most probably have to update on the pc.


if it is not connected to a tv like I mentioned then you could cross this one off 2.



gene nz

On 14/07/2020 9:13 am, Fresh Start wrote:
Hi everyone, I did disable the one addon, clipspeak most current version.
There isn't any change concerning first letter navigation on the desktop or
in a list of files.
Speech other than that is working fine. But it would be nice to move by the
first letter navigation. So if anyone has any ideas how to get it back I
would appreciate them. I have NVDA on two three computers and all works
fine. Thanks for responding to my questions.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 3:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda not speaking program/icon on the desktop when
pressing first letter

Hi,
I suspect NVDA is not being notified about selection changes, sometimes
caused by an add-on or a setting interfering with what NVDA is supposed to
do. To test, try restarting with all add-ons disabled, and if that solves
the issue, we can move onto isolating individual add-ons.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 1:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda not speaking program/icon on the desktop when
pressing first letter

The original message doesn't say there is no speech. It gives one specific
condition where there is no speech, when you use first letter navigation in
a list. Since there is speech, the possible solutions don't apply.

I have no reason why no speech occurs at that one specific time. Using read
current line should easily solve the problem and the command takes almost no
time to execute. It may be possible to find the reason by examining the log
but there are some problems that are so minor and so easily worked around
that they aren't worth solving, though you may, if you wish to, pursue it,
of course.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 2:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda not speaking program/icon on the desktop when
pressing first letter



Hi




I am sure you would of checked the following on the computer.




One that his speakers are plugged into the right whole and turned on.




On the computer the sound is not muted.




Press the windows key + letter R to bring up the run dialogue then type in
sndvol then press the enter key.




The next screen that comes up will have the master volume make sure it is
right up so you can hear it and not down on zero.




There is a box under it if checked it will mute the sound so make sure it is

un checked.




If you can see nvda is running but not talking under that section I think
there is a slider to make it louder there.




Also check when nvda is running that under the synth settings in nvda you
press the nvda key + ctrl key + the letter S to bring it up.




Make sure under the synth section that it has a synth there and not set to
no speech if it is set to that change it to e speak or another synth
package.




Gene nz




On 13/07/2020 2:25 am, Fresh Start wrote:


Hi All, I am using NVDA 20.1 on a client's windows ten pro laptop. When on
the desktop or in a list of programs or files, NVDA doesn't speak the name
of a program or file when pressing it's first letter. However, the cursor
does go to the location. I know this by arrowing up and then down. I tried

maximizing but didn't cause any change in behavior. Any ideas to resolve
the problem? Thanks in advance.

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Re: nvda not speaking program/icon on the desktop when pressing first letter

Fresh Start
 

Yes it still did so I should send a log.  Please explain how to do that please.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2020 4:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda not speaking program/icon on the desktop when pressing first letter

 

Did you restart with all add ons disabled per someone's instructions and see if it happens then? If it does, send a log to the nvda support folks.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

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Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 13 Jul 2020, at 14:13, Fresh Start wrote:

Hi everyone, I did disable the one addon, clipspeak most current version.
There isn't any change concerning first letter navigation on the desktop or
in a list of files.
Speech other than that is working fine. But it would be nice to move by the
first letter navigation. So if anyone has any ideas how to get it back I
would appreciate them. I have NVDA on two three computers and all works
fine. Thanks for responding to my questions.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 3:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda not speaking program/icon on the desktop when
pressing first letter

Hi,
I suspect NVDA is not being notified about selection changes, sometimes
caused by an add-on or a setting interfering with what NVDA is supposed to
do. To test, try restarting with all add-ons disabled, and if that solves
the issue, we can move onto isolating individual add-ons.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 1:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda not speaking program/icon on the desktop when
pressing first letter

The original message doesn't say there is no speech. It gives one specific
condition where there is no speech, when you use first letter navigation in
a list. Since there is speech, the possible solutions don't apply.

I have no reason why no speech occurs at that one specific time. Using read
current line should easily solve the problem and the command takes almost no
time to execute. It may be possible to find the reason by examining the log
but there are some problems that are so minor and so easily worked around
that they aren't worth solving, though you may, if you wish to, pursue it,
of course.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 2:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda not speaking program/icon on the desktop when
pressing first letter

Hi

I am sure you would of checked the following on the computer.

One that his speakers are plugged into the right whole and turned on.

On the computer the sound is not muted.

Press the windows key + letter R to bring up the run dialogue then type in
sndvol then press the enter key.

The next screen that comes up will have the master volume make sure it is
right up so you can hear it and not down on zero.

There is a box under it if checked it will mute the sound so make sure it is

un checked.

If you can see nvda is running but not talking under that section I think
there is a slider to make it louder there.

Also check when nvda is running that under the synth settings in nvda you
press the nvda key + ctrl key + the letter S to bring it up.

Make sure under the synth section that it has a synth there and not set to
no speech if it is set to that change it to e speak or another synth
package.

Gene nz

On 13/07/2020 2:25 am, Fresh Start wrote:

Hi All, I am using NVDA 20.1 on a client's windows ten pro laptop. When on
the desktop or in a list of programs or files, NVDA doesn't speak the name
of a program or file when pressing it's first letter. However, the cursor
does go to the location. I know this by arrowing up and then down. I tried

maximizing but didn't cause any change in behavior. Any ideas to resolve
the problem? Thanks in advance.

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