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Re: get old label tag innerHTML message when I use js to change edit box's label

Jonathan COHN
 

Did you try with a different browser? I have been having some issues with aria-current attribute not updating in current Chrome versions on Windows 7. One of my sighted peers was trying to see if the AOM was not being updated.



On 6/8/18, 11:07 AM, "nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of 特種兵" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of afreettears@...> wrote:

hi all:

yesterday, I use js changed a edit box label innerHTML and press tab
key got old label innerHTML message with NVDA.
example the label innerHTML is "username", when I change "personal"
combo box to "company",
the label innerHTML be changed to "company name".
my braille display show correct new innerHTML "company name" and use
up or down arrow key get new message too.
but when I use tab key, the voice message is old "username" until I
press nvda + F5 reflashed screen.
I checked "Report dynamic content changes", still has this question.
How can I do something let nvda get new innerHTML message when press
tab key?
or NVDA will fix this bug.



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Re: Firefox Quantum?

Gene
 

Perhaps different users have different experiences after the changes and improvements on the initial changes.
 
I've probably written about this here before.  Use a portable version of Firefox to avoid the problem of the program updating.  It isn't supposed to but if you use a portable version, even if it updates, you can have a copy of the program as a backup.  just by copying the folder to another location.  Then all you have to do is delete the folder with the updated version and copy the backup folder to the same location.  Export book marks over time so you can import them into the backup verxsion after you've copied it to the location where you want it. 
 
You can get portable versions of Firefox here:
ESR versions are on this page as well as not ESR versions.
 
And I think it’s a good idea to use the portable version even if you don't have this kind of problem.  If it ever becomes corrupted, you can replace it, as I described above.  You don't have to know how to troubleshoot the program.  Just replace it with the backed up version.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox Quantum?

It loads quite fast for me, as far as I know and I'm using firefox 60.x I think. All pages load quickly like they are supposed to.

On Jun 8, 2018, at 8:07 AM, Danni <luv2ride67@...> wrote:

Is it supposed to work with NVDA and if so any idea why it takes so long to load? my computre updated without my permission "I'd had it marked never update" and am getting the same problem I did in november when it updated! I go to a site and wait and wait for it to load or click start escape taskbar over to page I was waiting on to find it works why is it doing this? and is there a fix?
 


Re: Firefox Quantum?

Danni
 

Hmm wish I could say the same but it takes too long for me so maybe am gonna have to go back to an older version again sigh!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox Quantum?

It loads quite fast for me, as far as I know and I'm using firefox 60.x I think. All pages load quickly like they are supposed to.

On Jun 8, 2018, at 8:07 AM, Danni <luv2ride67@...> wrote:

Is it supposed to work with NVDA and if so any idea why it takes so long to load? my computre updated without my permission "I'd had it marked never update" and am getting the same problem I did in november when it updated! I go to a site and wait and wait for it to load or click start escape taskbar over to page I was waiting on to find it works why is it doing this? and is there a fix?
 


Re: end of the line for nvda skype group

 

does skype electron needs to update or it can works forever?

On 6/8/18, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
Google for and use skype electron. I heard that is a simpler version of
skype. It by the way only works on windows 7 so that won't help most of us.

On Jun 8, 2018, at 12:05 AM, Shaun Everiss <@smeveriss> wrote:

I havn't found a way to stop it updating, however you can continue to
download and use classic for now.

On win10 it has no updates so it doesn't ask you to do that.

I have pulled out of the nvda descussion group, and I don't need skype to
be active right now.

There should be update settings under advanced but I have not found this
at all.

As for the future, eventually everyone will have to use the universal app,
maybe but who knows.

I don't need skype, and to be honest I may end up abandoning it and
calling the expensive but accessible way over the phone or using email.




On 6/8/2018 6:38 PM, zahra wrote:
hi shaun and all.
is it possible to use classic version and ban updating it that never
updates to version 8?
is there any solution for skype?
i just need voice call and reading and sending messages, if it can
supports sending files is good, but the most important priority for me
is voice call and text message.
i dont need group call at this time and it was not be useful for me
until now, not sure about my future needs.

On 6/8/18, Shaun Everiss <@smeveriss> wrote:
What about groups and personal things.

One idea for me when skype classic finally dies is to try google
hangouts as coolblindtech guys did use it for one of the reviews and
the
quality of the recording was top notch.




On 6/8/2018 6:03 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Check out zoom. I use it for all of my business meetings and I have
not
touched team talk since. You can do screen sharing (yes that is
accessible) ) and moe with it. Other users can call in by phone if
they
want to or need to. I really love it.

On Jun 7, 2018, at 2:56 AM, Shaun Everiss <@smeveriss>
wrote:

It looks like its not completely the end.

It appears for 7 and 8 users we will have to just not install the
skype
classic update.

For 10 users, it appears microsoft have left us alone.

Previded we can get the skype classic program, ms doesn't ask us to
switch over to the universal.

So at least for the moment they are leaving us alone who knows how
long
that is but still.

I have not as yet tried this.

The nvda skype group didn't have much traffic and I was thinking of
pulling out anyway.

Skype isnot a real issue for me as I hardly use it.

Skype web via miranda works for text, now if I can use it to call
skype
then fine I guess.

There is zello but I have never figured it out as such.

On the other side those of us on android and ios devices will still
be
able to use skype,.

This seems to effect desktops, that is windows, mac and linux only.

For group chats there is teamtalk, and tthub.org <http://tthub.org/>
are
offering competitive rates right now.

I am interested though in some kind of voip or sip app that is easy
to
use, accessible and can use as a protocol skype calls, messages,
groups
and file shares which are the only things I ever use.

If that can be done and if I can login with my skype account then
fine.

Right now skype classic still works.

Eventually that may die but who knows.

The skype interface with miranda ng is a bit different, I will have
to
get used to it but right now well.

I don't use skype enough to justify upgrading to anything new, I
barely
use that much of skype's power as it is.




On 6/7/2018 9:00 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I have to say its not been used here for almost a year now.
I find it irritating that such a simple system is not being made
available in a basic form for low tech users and without the flashy
front end changes every fortnight. Skype always had a reputation of
bringing out improvements that broke it, and it seems this has not
stopped with Microsoft owning it, sadly.
So what else is out there for desktop machines for good quality
audio
over the internet free?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss"
<@smeveriss>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 8:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] end of the line for nvda skype group


Hi all of you.

Pulling out of nvda skype group now because of 1, skypes uncertain
future and 2. the fact I hardly contribute to it, I will shift all
my
conversational contributions to this list from now on if I havn't
allready.

I will still use skype classic for family, but due to things as
they
stand I may have to remove skype from my contact and other info, it
will be email for internationals only, skype if they need, but I
will
no longer advertise.

Microsoft has lost another user, skype classic interface is easy to
understand, the new one I just don't care for.

Its a pitty its got to end this way but I may as well cut my losses
right now rather than having to bother with things going bang.

I will have to either search for another solution or start paying
high
charges for international calls because skype new versions are
inaccessible.

Way to go ms.

Can't skype classic just be pulled from the update loop and still
be
kept active?










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Re: end of the line for nvda skype group

Sarah k Alawami
 

Google for and use skype electron. I heard that is a simpler version of skype. It by the way only works on windows 7 so that won't help most of us.

On Jun 8, 2018, at 12:05 AM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:

I havn't found a way to stop it updating, however you can continue to download and use classic for now.

On win10 it has no updates so it doesn't ask you to do that.

I have pulled out of the nvda descussion group, and I don't need skype to be active right now.

There should be update settings under advanced but I have not found this at all.

As for the future, eventually everyone will have to use the universal app, maybe but who knows.

I don't need skype, and to be honest I may end up abandoning it and calling the expensive but accessible way over the phone or using email.




On 6/8/2018 6:38 PM, zahra wrote:
hi shaun and all.
is it possible to use classic version and ban updating it that never
updates to version 8?
is there any solution for skype?
i just need voice call and reading and sending messages, if it can
supports sending files is good, but the most important priority for me
is voice call and text message.
i dont need group call at this time and it was not be useful for me
until now, not sure about my future needs.

On 6/8/18, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
What about groups and personal things.

One idea for me when skype classic finally dies is to try google
hangouts as coolblindtech guys did use it for one of the reviews and the
quality of the recording was top notch.




On 6/8/2018 6:03 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Check out zoom. I use it for all of my business meetings and I have not
touched team talk since. You can do screen sharing (yes  that is
accessible) ) and moe with it. Other  users can call in by phone if they
want to or need to. I really love it.

On Jun 7, 2018, at 2:56 AM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:

It looks like its not completely the end.

It appears for 7 and 8 users we will have to just not install the skype
classic update.

For 10 users, it appears microsoft have left us alone.

Previded we can get the skype classic program, ms doesn't ask us to
switch over to the universal.

So at least for the moment they are leaving us alone who knows how long
that is but still.

I have not as yet tried this.

The nvda skype group didn't have much traffic and I was thinking of
pulling out anyway.

Skype isnot a real issue for me as I hardly use it.

Skype web via miranda works for text, now if I can use it to call skype
then fine I guess.

There is zello but I have never figured it out as such.

On the other side those of us on android and ios devices will still be
able to use skype,.

This seems to effect desktops, that is windows, mac and linux only.

For group chats there is teamtalk, and tthub.org <http://tthub.org/> are
offering competitive rates right now.

I am interested though in some kind of voip or sip app that is easy to
use, accessible and can use as a protocol skype calls, messages, groups
and file shares which are the only things I ever use.

If that can be done and if I can login with my skype account then fine.

Right now skype classic still works.

Eventually that may die but who knows.

The skype interface with miranda ng is a bit different, I will have to
get used to it but right now well.

I don't use skype enough to justify upgrading to anything new, I barely
use that much of skype's power as it is.




On 6/7/2018 9:00 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I have to say its not been used here for almost a year now.
I find it irritating that such a simple system is not being made
available in a basic form for low tech users and without the flashy
front end changes every fortnight. Skype always had a reputation of
bringing out improvements that broke it, and it seems this has not
stopped with Microsoft owning it, sadly.
So what else is out there for desktop machines for good quality audio
over the internet free?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss"
<sm.everiss@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 8:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] end of the line for nvda skype group


Hi all of you.

Pulling out of nvda skype group now because of 1, skypes uncertain
future and 2. the fact I hardly contribute to it, I will shift all my
conversational contributions to this list from now on if I havn't
allready.

I will still use skype classic for family, but due to things as they
stand I may have to remove skype from my contact and other info, it
will be email for internationals only, skype if they need, but I will
no longer advertise.

Microsoft has lost another user, skype classic interface is easy to
understand, the new one I just don't care for.

Its a pitty its got to end this way but I may as well cut my losses
right now rather than having to bother with things going bang.

I will have to either search for another solution or start paying high
charges for international calls because skype new versions are
inaccessible.

Way to go ms.

Can't skype classic just be pulled from the update loop and still be
kept active?

















Re: Firefox Quantum?

Sarah k Alawami
 

It loads quite fast for me, as far as I know and I'm using firefox 60.x I think. All pages load quickly like they are supposed to.

On Jun 8, 2018, at 8:07 AM, Danni <luv2ride67@...> wrote:

Is it supposed to work with NVDA and if so any idea why it takes so long to load? my computre updated without my permission "I'd had it marked never update" and am getting the same problem I did in november when it updated! I go to a site and wait and wait for it to load or click start escape taskbar over to page I was waiting on to find it works why is it doing this? and is there a fix?
 


Re: Sound Forge 12.5

 

hi arno.
thanks so much for the explanation!
can you please tell me how can i make smplayer more accessible?
some shortcuts dont work properly
and also nvda says qt before and after the discriptions of its preferences.

On 6/8/18, Lenron <lenron93@...> wrote:
That link should really help them.

On 6/8/18, Arno Schuh <@menschomat> wrote:
Hi,

in QT there are accessibility features available:
https://doc.qt.io/archives/qt-5.10/accessible.html
If I remember correctly when VLC changed to QT it wasn't accessible until
these features are switched on. Same with Rockbox Utility.
So probably Magix only have to turn on the accessibility features in QT.

Yours sincerely

Arno






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Firefox Quantum?

Danni
 

Is it supposed to work with NVDA and if so any idea why it takes so long to load? my computre updated without my permission "I'd had it marked never update" and am getting the same problem I did in november when it updated! I go to a site and wait and wait for it to load or click start escape taskbar over to page I was waiting on to find it works why is it doing this? and is there a fix?
 


Re: Sound Forge 12.5

Lenron
 

That link should really help them.

On 6/8/18, Arno Schuh <@menschomat> wrote:
Hi,

in QT there are accessibility features available:
https://doc.qt.io/archives/qt-5.10/accessible.html
If I remember correctly when VLC changed to QT it wasn't accessible until
these features are switched on. Same with Rockbox Utility.
So probably Magix only have to turn on the accessibility features in QT.

Yours sincerely

Arno





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get old label tag innerHTML message when I use js to change edit box's label

特種兵
 

hi all:

  yesterday, I use js changed a edit box label innerHTML and press tab key got old label innerHTML message with NVDA.
  example the label innerHTML is "username", when I change "personal" combo box to "company",
the label innerHTML be changed to "company name".
  my braille display show correct new innerHTML "company name" and use up or down arrow key get new message too.
  but when I use tab key, the voice message is old "username" until I press nvda + F5 reflashed screen.
  I checked "Report dynamic content changes", still has this question.
  How can I do something let nvda get new innerHTML message when press tab key?
  or NVDA will fix this bug.



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Re: Sound Forge 12.5

Arno Schuh
 

Hi,

in QT there are accessibility features available:
https://doc.qt.io/archives/qt-5.10/accessible.html
If I remember correctly when VLC changed to QT it wasn't accessible until these features are switched on. Same with Rockbox Utility.
So probably Magix only have to turn on the accessibility features in QT.

Yours sincerely

Arno


Re: Sound Forge 12.5

 

Hi,
Glad to see the below message. Please have the developer contact NV Access via info@....
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Christopher Gray
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 7:36 AM
To: NVDA Mailing List <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Sound Forge 12.5

Hi:

I did figure out how to contact Magix and got the following response, actually a pretty good response.

Does anybody know about NVDA and this QT Framework? Is this something that is being addressed in NVDA at all?

It sounds to me like these guys could be interested in helping.

Chris

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 12:21:29 +0200
From: MAGIX Support <support@...>
To: chris@...
Subject: Re: [Ticket#2018051617008471] Ihre Anfrage an den Kundendienst

Greetings Chris,

Thank you for contacting us. I have discussed it with our developers, and I have also researched the NVDA and Cobra screen readers, and it is our opinion that the problem is caused by the new interface for SFAS 12. The new version uses QT framework, and from what I have found, there are many, many complaints from seeing impaired users about difficulties with screen readers interacting with QT framework. I would recommend writing the makers of the screen readers and ask them if they know of an incompatibility issue with QT framework. Of course, if there is, we would be happy to refund your purchase. If you would like, I could send you a trial version of Sound Forge Audio Studio 10...I know it's a bit older, but it uses a different framework, and should work much better with screen reading software. If you want to try that, let me know, and I'll be happy to set it up.

??e apologize to you for the inconvenience of that. I personally see it as a big problem, and I will talk with our developers about what we can do in the future to change this--it should be our goal as a company to make sure all of our programs can function properly when used with a screen reading interface.
??e thank you for your time, and we will await your response. In the meantime, have a great day!

Best regards,
Craig Dickerson

MAGIX Software GmbH
Supportmanager

Postfach 500109
01067 Dresden
Germany

Managing Director: Klaus Schmidt, Jörg Stüber, Aishvarya Agarwal Commercial Register: Berlin Charlottenburg, HRB 127205

*****************************************************************
* Please make sure to include your original correspondence when *
* replying and leave the subject line unaltered. Changing the *
* subject line may cause your mail to be improperly assigned *
* and result in a delayed response. *
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05/16/2018 21:35 - chris@... wrote: [METADATA_START]
Interview: Do you wish to contact Technical Support? -> Music -> My enquiry is about SOUND FORGE Audio Studio 12

Processor:
- Intel 7g
Operating system:
- Windows 7
Memory:
- 16g
Sound Card:
- Onboard HD and Audiobox
Graphics Card:
- Don't Know, worked fine with Sound forge 10
Browser:
- Internet Explorer

[METADATA_END]
I use the NVDA screen reader for the blind and Cobra screen reader for the blind.
Soundforge 12.5 will not allow me to highlight portions of an audio file and skips around randomly in the file as well. I need somebody to assist me in working directly with the screen reader manufacturer to try and see what is going on.

Thank you.

Chris
[METADATA_START]

Weitere registrierte Produkte:
Audio Cleaning Lab
Sound Forge Audio Studio
iZotope Ozone 8 Elements
[METADATA_END]


Sound Forge 12.5

Christopher Gray
 

Hi:

I did figure out how to contact Magix and got the following response, actually a pretty good response.

Does anybody know about NVDA and this QT Framework? Is this something that is being addressed in NVDA at all?

It sounds to me like these guys could be interested in helping.

Chris

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 12:21:29 +0200
From: MAGIX Support <support@...>
To: chris@...
Subject: Re: [Ticket#2018051617008471] Ihre Anfrage an den Kundendienst

Greetings Chris,

Thank you for contacting us.  I have discussed it with our developers, and I
have also researched the NVDA and Cobra screen readers, and it is our opinion
that the problem is caused by the new interface for SFAS 12.  The new version
uses QT framework, and from what I have found, there are many, many complaints
from seeing impaired users about difficulties with screen readers interacting
with QT framework.  I would recommend writing the makers of the screen readers
and ask them if they know of an incompatibility issue with QT framework.  Of
course, if there is, we would be happy to refund your purchase.  If you would
like, I could send you a trial version of Sound Forge Audio Studio 10...I know
it's a bit older, but it uses a different framework, and should work much
better with screen reading software.  If you want to try that, let me know,
and I'll be happy to set it up.

??e apologize to you for the inconvenience of that.  I personally see it as a
big problem, and I will talk with our developers about what we can do in the
future to change this--it should be our goal as a company to make sure all of
our programs can function properly when used with a screen reading interface.
??e thank you for your time, and we will await your response.  In the meantime,
have a great day!

Best regards,
Craig Dickerson

MAGIX Software GmbH
Supportmanager

Postfach 500109
01067 Dresden
Germany

Managing Director: Klaus Schmidt, Jörg Stüber, Aishvarya Agarwal
Commercial Register: Berlin Charlottenburg, HRB 127205

*****************************************************************
* Please make sure to include your original correspondence when *
* replying and leave the subject line unaltered. Changing the   *
* subject line may cause your mail to be improperly assigned    *
* and result in a delayed response.                             *
*****************************************************************

05/16/2018 21:35 - chris@... wrote: [METADATA_START]
Interview: Do you wish to contact Technical Support? -> Music -> My enquiry is
about SOUND FORGE Audio Studio 12

Processor:
- Intel 7g
Operating system:
- Windows 7
Memory:
- 16g
Sound Card:
- Onboard HD and Audiobox
Graphics Card:
- Don't Know, worked fine with Sound forge 10
Browser:
- Internet Explorer

[METADATA_END]
I use the NVDA screen reader for the blind and Cobra screen reader for the
blind.
Soundforge 12.5 will not allow me to highlight portions of an audio file and
skips
around randomly in the file as well.  I need somebody to assist me in working
directly with the screen reader manufacturer to try and see what is going on.

Thank you.

Chris
[METADATA_START]

Weitere registrierte Produkte:
Audio Cleaning Lab
Sound Forge Audio Studio
iZotope Ozone 8 Elements
[METADATA_END]


Re: More non reading problems in new dropbox on windows 7 with latest master snaps

Gene
 

I'm not talking about the new shared components window.  I don't know anything about that and we haven't gotten responses from anyone else about whether they see it. 
 
Concerning the preferences tabs, it sounds suspiciously likely that you have done something in both machines that makes these things not work.  I don't know what, an add on to something, running some sort of maintanence program, something.  Why haven't we seen one other report about either of these problems and why, even when you specifically asked about the preferences in Drop Box, didn't one person report the same problem? 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 6:39 AM
Subject: [nvda] More non reading problems in new dropbox on windows 7 with latest master snaps

Hi. In addition to the preferences tab being totally blank on my two
machines running windows 7, a new window for shared folders seems to have
been invented that asks permission to delete from all devices when you
delete a file. However it just looks like a blank empty window, but
sometimes I can hear the content but I seemingly cannot know for sure I have
clicked the button as it seems not to have any kind of  way to know where it
is.
 Now some people on here say the preferences work, but they do not for me,
so could somebody look into this issue as I know dropbox is often used by
us.
 If I have two machines one with the pro and one with home of windows 7 not
reading these screens in nvda, there are probably going to be others.
 I have not had time to try older versions as yet, but before I start
ticketing I'd like to know if its nvda or dropbox.
 Ta muchly.
 Brian

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Re: Turning text to speech

Jacob Kruger
 

http://www.cross-plus-a.com/balabolka.htm


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On 6/8/2018 1:20 PM, Kevin wrote:

I’ve used an online program, don’t remember the name!  But it really sucks.  Non of the audio gets transferred to the original it just like prints out talk talk talk.

 

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

 

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 2:44 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Turning text to speech

 

What is the currently suggested nvda friendly program for this task? Ie are

there some that work with voices that one can add dictionary corrections to,

as many Microsoft synths like speech platform seem to have massive issues

with the letter no and even sappi 5 does odd stuff.

I've been using  dspeech myself, for ages, but it is restricted to sappi 5

32 bit voices and one has to alter the  words in the file itself to correct

the  pronunciation. I guess some kind of add on to do a say all to file

might be nice but to me this is a stand alone program function.

What do you use?

Brian

 

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More non reading problems in new dropbox on windows 7 with latest master snaps

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Hi. In addition to the preferences tab being totally blank on my two machines running windows 7, a new window for shared folders seems to have been invented that asks permission to delete from all devices when you delete a file. However it just looks like a blank empty window, but sometimes I can hear the content but I seemingly cannot know for sure I have clicked the button as it seems not to have any kind of way to know where it is.
Now some people on here say the preferences work, but they do not for me, so could somebody look into this issue as I know dropbox is often used by us.
If I have two machines one with the pro and one with home of windows 7 not reading these screens in nvda, there are probably going to be others.
I have not had time to try older versions as yet, but before I start ticketing I'd like to know if its nvda or dropbox.
Ta muchly.
Brian

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Re: Turning text to speech

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I’ve used an online program, don’t remember the name!  But it really sucks.  Non of the audio gets transferred to the original it just like prints out talk talk talk.

 

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

 

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Subject: [nvda] Turning text to speech

 

What is the currently suggested nvda friendly program for this task? Ie are

there some that work with voices that one can add dictionary corrections to,

as many Microsoft synths like speech platform seem to have massive issues

with the letter no and even sappi 5 does odd stuff.

I've been using  dspeech myself, for ages, but it is restricted to sappi 5

32 bit voices and one has to alter the  words in the file itself to correct

the  pronunciation. I guess some kind of add on to do a say all to file

might be nice but to me this is a stand alone program function.

What do you use?

Brian

 

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A security question about the dll tool

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I see in the new RC3 of nvda 2018.2 that the dll registration tool is run on install now. However if one puts a portable version on a stick and takes it to another computer at a library, and uses it portably, what would running the registration tool do when run?
I mean it could well be that security would stop it working at all but if it were allowed this would be a security risk.

Just wondered as I cannot test this scenario.

Of course I guess they could just ban anything running at all from a stick without prior permission I supplose.
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Turning text to speech

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What is the currently suggested nvda friendly program for this task? Ie are there some that work with voices that one can add dictionary corrections to, as many Microsoft synths like speech platform seem to have massive issues with the letter no and even sappi 5 does odd stuff.
I've been using dspeech myself, for ages, but it is restricted to sappi 5 32 bit voices and one has to alter the words in the file itself to correct the pronunciation. I guess some kind of add on to do a say all to file might be nice but to me this is a stand alone program function.
What do you use?
Brian

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Re: i need list of accessible browsers

 

chromium is a browser that google chrome is based on.
because chromium is an opensource program that different companies
made different browsers based on it.

On 6/8/18, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
I think cromium is a operating system and not a browser?

can some one correct me on this?

Hank



On 6/7/2018 11:48 PM, zahra wrote:
hi again gene nz.
i searched in google and found this link.
it has very basic explanations for browsers and i encourage you that
in general, update this page freequently, because of the rapid changes
in the softwares.

http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda_road_tested_programs.html
by the way, it not mentioned chromium.
is chromium realy accessible?
and which one is better in terms of accessibility, google chrome or
chromium?

On 6/8/18, zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
hi brian.
thanks so much for your explanations and guide.
firefox 52.6 and later are very slow on my system when starting time
or openning dynamic websites (i believe its because of the spectre
patch!
but i even i tested firefox 45.9, it was faster, but not very much.
i have a problem recently using firefox esr (any esr version that
tested)
nvda reads this message for me when openning many https websites.


The connection was interrupted while the page was loading.
The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the
authenticity of the received data could not be verified. Please
contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.

yesterday, i reinstalled firefox 51 and fixed both the error issue and
slowness on xp.
i think that it even open websites faster, so, i believe that i should
use firefox 51 forever and never update it!
hi rosemarie.
thanks for your suggestion, but i use 32bit windows, and dont need and
dont like 64bit windows and 64bit browsers!

On 6/8/18, zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
hi gene nz.
can you please send me direct link of your tutorial?
i did not find it in your website now.
hi shaun.
thanks so much for your explanation.
but between google chrome and chromium, which one is better for
accessibility with nvda?
did you test chromium to explane for me about diffrences between
google chrome and chromium?

On 6/6/18, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
If you're looking for a perfect browser, you won't find one. You could
try waterfox and see if that works for you.




On 6/4/2018 3:46 AM, zahra wrote:
but many people experienced different browsers and i wish that know
your experience as well as other users observation and test with
other
browsers.
which of the browsers that i mentioned did you test?
chromium, vivaldi, slimjet and opera.
i need chrome based browsers for reading pdfs and there is not any
perfect and accessible free program that can supports farsi pdf files
for me.
also, between chromium and google chrome, which one is the best
program for accessibility using with nvda?

On 6/4/18, Antony Stone <antony.stone@...> wrote:
If you're looking for a list which is tuned to your personal
criteria,
then

you are the best person to create such a list, based on your own
assessment
of
what works well and what doesn't.

If you're looking for a general list which may be applicable to
people
other

than yourself, then I think I've already given reasons why it
doesn't
exist.


Antony.

On Monday 04 June 2018 at 12:21:27, zahra wrote:

hi antony,
for number 2, as you know, i only have nvda on windows and dont
know
and dont have any operating systems and screen reader except
windows
and nvda.
i dont use video websites, online shopp, games, messengers, etc.
so, i need the information for general usage of browsers in
accessibility with nvda,
the browsers that are based on gecko and chrome,
and also specially about the browsers that i mentioned there names
in
my previous comment.
please help, thanks so much, God bless you!

On 6/4/18, Antony Stone <antony.stone@...> wrote:
I do not think you will find such a list, because:

1. browsers change too quickly, with new releases, bug fixes,
extra
features etc, so it would be a lot of work to keep any list up to
date
with these changes

2. there isn't a single measure of "accessibility" because some
browser
features work better with NVDA than with JAWS, some work better
with
JAWS
than with Voiceover, some work better with Braille than with
speech
output, so there isn't a single way of measuring the accessibility
of
a
browser that is meaningful to everyone

3. it also depends on what sort of websites you visit and what you
want
to do with your browser, so for some purposes and users one
browser
/
screenreader combination may be best, but for other uses and users
that
may not be the best choice.


Regards,


Antony.

On Monday 04 June 2018 at 11:31:32, zahra wrote:
hello every one.
i wish that find list of browsers based on chrome and based on
firefox
and level of there accessibility.
how can i find such list?
can someone please send me the link?
also, did someone test opera recently to see its accessibility?
how about chromium, slimjet and vivaldi?
i appreciate any help, God bless you all!
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