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Re: NVDA and Windows 7

Andy
 

i'm running that combo with no issues.
 
Andy
 

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Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Windows 7

Hi,

 

Are there any known problems running NVDA 2018.3.2 on Windows 7 on a desktop PC?

 

I have heard of one case that is having difficulty and I am about to assist that person. It would help to know if there are any issues.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Re: Adobe reader

Mike Sedmak
 

You didn't say what method you were trying to use to change pages. I
have found that control+page-down/page-up is required to change pages,
not just pageup/pagedown by themselves.

Thanks,
Mike

On 10/2/18, farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm using latest windows 10 and latest adobe reader dc. If I select read
only currently visible page, I can read pdf file but cant change page. Same
with for large document read only currently visible page. If i select read
entire document I cant open pdf file. How to fix it?




Adobe reader

farhan israk
 

I'm using latest windows 10 and latest adobe reader dc. If I select read only currently visible page, I can read pdf file but cant change page. Same with for large document read only currently visible page. If i select read entire document I cant open pdf file. How to fix it?


Re: adnormal reaction

 

Msaa never had all the issues uia has now.

On 10/3/2018 4:56 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Even then, there are times when UIA may get involved in this problem, holding up NVDA for some reason. NV Access tried one solution, but had to back out due to that solution causing crashes in Windows 7. A subsequent solution is now available in alpha snapshots.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Subject: Re: [nvda] adnormal reaction

If this was the case Joseph, the number of things I have open in 7 and lots of buffering files should slow it down, but its not. Obviously there are occasional glitches where a core maxes out if you go too mad, but in 7, I've yet to see the slow down. About the only time I've noticed anything like it is when typing in a file name for a file over the top of an old one, but that is it really.
Windows 7 was always more secure and faster than the ten I used on similar hardware, which is another reason I've still not got a permanent 10 system here.
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2018 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] adnormal reaction


Hi,

Short answer: hopefully this should be mitigated somewhat very soon.

Long explanation: this sort of slow down is caused by an app that raises so
many events to a point where UI Automation subsystem doesn’t have time to
catch up, slowing down NVDA in the process. This is partly NVDA’s fault, and
this has been addressed to some degree in NVDA 2018.4 for Windows 7, 8.x,
and Windows 10 releases prior to Version 1809; Microsoft addressed this in
Version 1809 and NVDA 2018.3 includes mitigations for Windows 10 Version
1809.

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc
Wright godfearer
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 3:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] adnormal reaction



i am using winrar. I have noticed something similar when I am saving a file
in Goldwave. things seem to slow down in file explorer.I cannot do anything
until the task is finished.this includes copying a file from one folder to
another.

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Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 4:30 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] adnormal reaction



I guess you could use a 3rd party extracting program like 7zip or WinRAR



From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer <mailto:godfearer@comcast.net>
Sent: 02 October 2018 09:56
To: NVDA <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] adnormal reaction



when i extract a zipped file I can do nothing else in file explorer until
the zipped file is fully unpacked. Is this normal? this only happens in a
file explorer window.

***
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picking it back up!















Re: Windows 10 App Essentials on Windows 10Ver1703 (64-bit) build 15063.296

 

To be honest, I actually agree from a user point of view.

99.9% of my software is actually old software.

Bar my ocr software, my web brouser, email program, ccleaner, 7zip, and a few games most of the software I have bar those like goldwave and cdbxp which I update and my torrent sync, most of that came from xp days.

Out of that about 10 programs are true 64 bit and mostly its because I can not that I must.

Ok with the exception with waterfox maybe.

now with windows 7, its stable for the most part.

I have not found a reason from a user point of view especially since all I do mostly is gaming, audio and a little web testing work to really think of moving to win10.

One thing I really dislike from win10 is when switching networks.

In 7 I can connect to a list of networks but only have 1 up at a time.

To connect to one on 10 I log off one, then log to another one.

Thats fine, however if I then link back to my network I used especially on a home one I need to make sure it wil automatically connect on startup by hitting the right box in the right place.

I also don't care about bits of the copy dialog and file explorer.

If I have more than 1 or 2 windows open, maybe notepad and explorer for example even if its minimised, all my files do not show though I know if I fiddle around they will work just fine.

There is also the fact issues I have in win10 don't happen on 7.

The only 2 reasons I would never go back to xp are 1,  64 bit programs, xp64 drivers support sucked and 2.  windows update intergration.

I also don't care for the miriad places one needs to go to get extras for win10 things, store, updates settings optional features the list goes on.

The only reason other than the fact I use a lot more 64 bit now is that a lot of games, and a lot of codecs and things like java have moved on so I  could never go back for general things.

On the other hand, I am tempted to downgrade to xp if only for especially the older games, all my dos stuff, maybe, and a few other things.

I would never serf with it online as such but I would keep it updated.

I also have a few things that are not 64 bit compatible.

On 10/3/2018 4:29 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Well I disagree most strongly. Its making far too much work for system admins, and potentially breaking working software as well. I think we as a breed also should have access to longer support times as we have the excuse of finding newer third party software is inaccessible whereas older ones are, All that will happen if Window carries on this way is home users will block all updates to achieve a stable working system leaving themselves open to malware as with xp, though I has to be said that although having windows xp machines here, I've yet to encounter any virus.


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----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials on Windows 10Ver1703 (64-bit) build 15063.296


On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 10:27 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:


To Brian V: I bet Noah’s school uses Windows 10 Education, which will
receive support until October 2019. I’ll make that clear on Win10 Forum
once Version 1809 era kicks in.
Yes, I'm aware that both Education and Enterprise (and even S, I think) have end-of-life dates that are longer than those for the same versions of Home and Pro.

That being said, and also realizing that institutions of all sorts are notoriously loath to update, they need to be coming into the Windows as a service era as well. It would be one thing to be on 1709 at this juncture, but 1703 is jaw-dropping.

Whether anyone likes it or not the WAAS model is here to stay, and trying to maintain glacially slow update protocols is ridiculous. I worked for many years with several different state agencies and the resistance to updating was both stupid and appalling. Organizations were still running on Windows XP years, plural, into the Windows 7 era. I'm sure the same is true for Windows 7 in the Windows 10 era. But if you, as an institution, decide to go with Windows 10 you had better realize that you simply cannot hang on for nearly as long as you used to get away with. The goal should carefully controlled and post-bleeding-edge updates preferably no more than one version cycle behind the most current (and preferably with a small, in-house test bed that goes to the next version almost at the same time as "the rest of the world" so that any issues specific to the venue can be worked out on a small scale first).

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NVDA not reading slides in Presentation mode "slide show complete"

Joshua Crary <JCrary@...>
 

Hello

 

I am running the latest NVDA and PPT 2016.  The files are not in protected mode.  In edit view, I can read the slides. However, in presentation mode (after pressing F5), and all NVDA reads out loud is “slide show complete”.  I hit space bar twice, and it exits the slide show.

 

Any thoughts on what the issue is?  I have not had this issue before with NVDA until the last 3 months or so.  Before then, it has always worked well with PPT.

 

 

 

Joshh Crary

Director of Student Accessibility Services

Roxbury Community College

Roxbury, MA 02120

857.701.1410

jcrary@...

 


question beta testing

Afik Suffir <afik.sofir@...>
 

 

How can I do beta test to NVDA, and how can I report bugs?

 


Re: adnormal reaction

 

Hi,
Even then, there are times when UIA may get involved in this problem, holding up NVDA for some reason. NV Access tried one solution, but had to back out due to that solution causing crashes in Windows 7. A subsequent solution is now available in alpha snapshots.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Subject: Re: [nvda] adnormal reaction

If this was the case Joseph, the number of things I have open in 7 and lots of buffering files should slow it down, but its not. Obviously there are occasional glitches where a core maxes out if you go too mad, but in 7, I've yet to see the slow down. About the only time I've noticed anything like it is when typing in a file name for a file over the top of an old one, but that is it really.
Windows 7 was always more secure and faster than the ten I used on similar hardware, which is another reason I've still not got a permanent 10 system here.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2018 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] adnormal reaction


Hi,

Short answer: hopefully this should be mitigated somewhat very soon.

Long explanation: this sort of slow down is caused by an app that raises so
many events to a point where UI Automation subsystem doesn’t have time to
catch up, slowing down NVDA in the process. This is partly NVDA’s fault, and
this has been addressed to some degree in NVDA 2018.4 for Windows 7, 8.x,
and Windows 10 releases prior to Version 1809; Microsoft addressed this in
Version 1809 and NVDA 2018.3 includes mitigations for Windows 10 Version
1809.

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc
Wright godfearer
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 3:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] adnormal reaction



i am using winrar. I have noticed something similar when I am saving a file
in Goldwave. things seem to slow down in file explorer.I cannot do anything
until the task is finished.this includes copying a file from one folder to
another.

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To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 4:30 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] adnormal reaction



I guess you could use a 3rd party extracting program like 7zip or WinRAR



From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer <mailto:godfearer@comcast.net>
Sent: 02 October 2018 09:56
To: NVDA <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] adnormal reaction



when i extract a zipped file I can do nothing else in file explorer until
the zipped file is fully unpacked. Is this normal? this only happens in a
file explorer window.

***
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picking it back up!


Re: adnormal reaction

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If this was the case Joseph, the number of things I have open in 7 and lots of buffering files should slow it down, but its not. Obviously there are occasional glitches where a core maxes out if you go too mad, but in 7, I've yet to see the slow down. About the only time I've noticed anything like it is when typing in a file name for a file over the top of an old one, but that is it really.
Windows 7 was always more secure and faster than the ten I used on similar hardware, which is another reason I've still not got a permanent 10 system here.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2018 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] adnormal reaction


Hi,

Short answer: hopefully this should be mitigated somewhat very soon.

Long explanation: this sort of slow down is caused by an app that raises so many events to a point where UI Automation subsystem doesn’t have time to catch up, slowing down NVDA in the process. This is partly NVDA’s fault, and this has been addressed to some degree in NVDA 2018.4 for Windows 7, 8.x, and Windows 10 releases prior to Version 1809; Microsoft addressed this in Version 1809 and NVDA 2018.3 includes mitigations for Windows 10 Version 1809.

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 3:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] adnormal reaction



i am using winrar. I have noticed something similar when I am saving a file in Goldwave. things seem to slow down in file explorer.I cannot do anything until the task is finished.this includes copying a file from one folder to another.

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To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

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Subject: Re: [nvda] adnormal reaction



I guess you could use a 3rd party extracting program like 7zip or WinRAR



From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer <mailto:godfearer@comcast.net>
Sent: 02 October 2018 09:56
To: NVDA <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] adnormal reaction



when i extract a zipped file I can do nothing else in file explorer until the zipped file is fully unpacked. Is this normal? this only happens in a file explorer window.

***
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Re: adnormal reaction

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In that case maybe we need to know more about the hardware of the machine and whether its processor is being throttled back to save power as on some laptops.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Doc Wright godfearer" <godfearer@comcast.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2018 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] adnormal reaction


i am using winrar. I have noticed something similar when I am saving a file in Goldwave. things seem to slow down in file explorer.I cannot do anything until the task is finished.this includes copying a file from one folder to another.
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 4:30 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] adnormal reaction


I guess you could use a 3rd party extracting program like 7zip or WinRAR



From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: 02 October 2018 09:56
To: NVDA
Subject: [nvda] adnormal reaction



when i extract a zipped file I can do nothing else in file explorer until the zipped file is fully unpacked. Is this normal? this only happens in a file explorer window.

***
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Re: How to use the new Web Console in Firefox Quantum to read Object properties?

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Many of the developers are not sighted, so you may wait a while for anyone to view it. I strongly suspect Firefox though. as you rightly point out, it all used to work before.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2018 9:49 AM
Subject: [nvda] How to use the new Web Console in Firefox Quantum to read Object properties?


Hello,
Before Firefox Quantum, I could easily read anything written to the
console. Now though, I can't read properties of objects. I am just
presented with a line that says "tree view".
Here is a video of me trying to read the properties:
https://youtu.be/2_YUL2WHFuE

What is the way to read this information? Is this a bug? If so, with who?
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>



Re: adnormal reaction

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Depends what you mean really, while stuff is extracting that window is busy. However if you install 7zip and use that instead then the old explorer window is there via alt/tab.
Brian

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From: "Robert Doc Wright godfearer" <godfearer@comcast.net>
To: "NVDA" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2018 9:56 AM
Subject: [nvda] adnormal reaction


when i extract a zipped file I can do nothing else in file explorer until the zipped file is fully unpacked. Is this normal? this only happens in a file explorer window.
***
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Re: NVDA and Windows 7

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Nothing much. I cannot run 32 bit Firefox after version 56, but 64 bit versions seem to work. When I say cannot run, I mean it runs as far as a sighted user is concerned, but the web page content is unknown.

The only other issue I have and I'm not convinced its windows 7 or nvda, is that Dropbox prefs, share and log in dialogues no longer work for me. My feeling is that when Avast got on the machine, removing it has messed something up, and the fixer tool or sfc cannot fix it.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Cearbhall O'Meadhra" <cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2018 8:30 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Windows 7


Hi,



Are there any known problems running NVDA 2018.3.2 on Windows 7 on a desktop
PC?



I have heard of one case that is having difficulty and I am about to assist
that person. It would help to know if there are any issues.



All the best,



Cearbhall



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Re: Streamlining speech in NVDA

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I've noticed this on other web content as well. I suspect that nvda is responding correctly but the page is changing underneath probably not that fast due to javascript or whatever and the result is snapshots of the information nvda sees at that time.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Felix G." <constantlyvariable@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2018 7:31 AM
Subject: [nvda] Streamlining speech in NVDA


Hi everyone!
I just noticed that when archiving a message in Gmail using Firefox
and NVDA, I get the following rather redundant message:
Undo link undo undo link button.
It's probably referring to the undo button which one could click in
order to undo the last command given, in this case, archive.
Also, when composing a message in Gmail, the window title was
repeatedly announced, liberally interspersed with the word "unknown,"
while I was trying to find a contact in the auto-suggestions with the
arrow keys. This was seriously slowing me down.
This made me wonder just how much redundancy in speech we are
currently getting from screen readers and to what extent this might
hamper our efficiency. So I thought I'd ask around if anyone knows of
any actual studies conducted on this subject. Is there such a field as
screen reader user experience design? I consider myself moderately
knowledgeable in the area of screen readers but I haven't found it
yet.
Are the current designs based on scientific principles, or on wild
guesses as to what people need, based on personal experience of power
users?
Best,
Felix


Re: bugs with addon PlaceMarker

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There has been some discussion about the Chinese issues on the issues tracker mailing list, but I did not actually read them. I think you are right, some add ons seem not to be aware, and this also adds on to imogees too I think, not knowing Chinese, I can say no more here.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William" <cwwong.pro@gmail.com>
To: "NVDA Groups.io mailing list email" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2018 4:59 AM
Subject: [nvda] bugs with addon PlaceMarker


Hi, me again.

I came across some bugs with PlaceMarker would like to report it here.

Situation 1:
I visited https://www.hkbu.org.hk/b5_services4.php and I selected "輔助工具介紹及下載區" (this is traditional Chinese) and then press ctrl shift nvda k to create a marker.
then, if I press alt nvda k to bring up the note window, nvda crash and force restart.
After restart, I try to open the note window again, and it crash again and restart again.
Then if I press nvda k to move to the marker position and press nvda shift ctrl delete to remove the marker, then, pressing alt nvda k can bring up the note window again.

situation 2:
I visited another website in Simplified Chinese and selected text "1042楼2018-10-01 23:46" to create a marker.
This time, pressing alt nvda k can bring up the note window, but the display of the note became something like "30937 - 1042?2018-10-01 23:46" where the Simplified Chinese was replaced with ?

I thought the above bugs were something relating to Unicode? or something relating to multi language handling?
May you please help to look it out.
Thanks,
William



Re: Add on updator and portible copy?

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Just tried this and it worked fine here, as to where it put it, I suspect the temp folder.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Stewart" <paganus2@gmail.com>
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Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 10:33 PM
Subject: [nvda] Add on updator and portible copy?


Just wondering if the add on updator add on will work with a portable copy of nvda? I'm thinking it won't because only an installed copy of nvda can install an add on automatically. A portable copy makes it necessary to point to the location where the add on file is located in order to install it.. However, it may still be able to let the user know that updates are available and which ones they are.


Roger




Re: NVDA & NVDA Add-On Archive Pages - Has there been consideration to creating these?

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I agree and have said as much many times, I suspect its a work load issue, not a reticence to doing it though.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 8:59 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA & NVDA Add-On Archive Pages - Has there been consideration to creating these?


I have always found it a bit odd that NVAccess does not have, at least that I know of, an "Older Versions" page much like JAWS and many other software houses do.

It has become abundantly clear that there will be times when NVDA, or an NVDA Add-On, ends up being updated but that causes a lot of other stuff to break for an individual user for a wide variety of reasons. It would be really nice if it were possible for the end user to have quick and ready access to, say, the immediately previous two or three releases of NVDA and the same for the Add-Ons.

Right now the roll-back process, unless one has created one's own personal archive of installers, is a cyclic one-off effort where someone "on the inside" has to dig out a link that can be used to get an older release. Since these do not change after they are released (at least not typically) and certainly don't change once the next release is out in their prior release form, having archival access with ease just makes sense.

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Re: turning off the "sent with mail" signature

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When it gets newsgroups, identities and mail sorting rules is the day I'll use it.
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Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] turning off the "sent with mail" signature


Hello Rosemarie, you can turn off e-mail signatures following the steps bellow:
1. Open Mail for Windows 10 app, navigate with Tab until you get focused on a button called settings, then press it.
2. After that, press Tab and, after you reach the button called signature, press it.
3. Then, search a checkbox called use an e-mail signature. Uncheck it and press eskape to close the pop-up window.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,
Florian

La 01.10.2018 19:15, Rosemarie Chavarria a scris:
Hi, everyone,

I’m using the mail app now and I do really like it. How do I turn off the “sent with mail” part of the signature? I don’t want to always hear that after signing a message.

Thanks in advance.

Rosemarie



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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials on Windows 10Ver1703 (64-bit) build 15063.296

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Well I disagree most strongly. Its making far too much work for system admins, and potentially breaking working software as well. I think we as a breed also should have access to longer support times as we have the excuse of finding newer third party software is inaccessible whereas older ones are, All that will happen if Window carries on this way is home users will block all updates to achieve a stable working system leaving themselves open to malware as with xp, though I has to be said that although having windows xp machines here, I've yet to encounter any virus.


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From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials on Windows 10Ver1703 (64-bit) build 15063.296


On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 10:27 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:


To Brian V: I bet Noah’s school uses Windows 10 Education, which will
receive support until October 2019. I’ll make that clear on Win10 Forum
once Version 1809 era kicks in.
Yes, I'm aware that both Education and Enterprise (and even S, I think) have end-of-life dates that are longer than those for the same versions of Home and Pro.

That being said, and also realizing that institutions of all sorts are notoriously loath to update, they need to be coming into the Windows as a service era as well. It would be one thing to be on 1709 at this juncture, but 1703 is jaw-dropping.

Whether anyone likes it or not the WAAS model is here to stay, and trying to maintain glacially slow update protocols is ridiculous. I worked for many years with several different state agencies and the resistance to updating was both stupid and appalling. Organizations were still running on Windows XP years, plural, into the Windows 7 era. I'm sure the same is true for Windows 7 in the Windows 10 era. But if you, as an institution, decide to go with Windows 10 you had better realize that you simply cannot hang on for nearly as long as you used to get away with. The goal should carefully controlled and post-bleeding-edge updates preferably no more than one version cycle behind the most current (and preferably with a small, in-house test bed that goes to the next version almost at the same time as "the rest of the world" so that any issues specific to the venue can be worked out on a small scale first).

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Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

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Re: windows 10 mail

 

Hi,

Here, “these” mean suggestions about commands in Mail.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 7:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows 10 mail

 

Hi,

In this case, the add-on won’t cover these, as this is something that should be done by Microsoft.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 7:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows 10 mail

 

Checking the Add-Ons Page answers this question.

Specifically, the Windows 10 App Essentials add-on covers many of them.
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell