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Re: Firefox Quantum?

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In my case, it seems not to be the add ons, as this was the first thing I tried. I think that Firefox can max out the processor core and cause nvda to miss the fact that page loading has finished.
Waterfox does not seem to do this, and its nothing to do with not being Quantum as it started happening before that at around version 45.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <@britechguy>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox Quantum?


On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 08:14 am, Danni wrote:


Is it supposed to work with NVDA and if so any idea why it takes so long
to load?
What add-ons are you using? This sounds like it could very well be an issue with an add-on. I would definitely try restarting Firefox in its safe mode (which is unrelated to Windows Safe Mode) and see if the issue persists. Take a look at: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/troubleshoot-firefox-issues-using-safe-mode

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Re: Firefox Quantum?

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Try waterfox and see if it works better, it can co-exist with firefox.
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From: "Danni" <luv2ride67@...>
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Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox Quantum?


Hmm wish I could say the same but it takes too long for me so maybe am gonna have to go back to an older version again sigh!
----- Original Message -----
From: Sarah k Alawami
To: nvda list list
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox Quantum?


It loads quite fast for me, as far as I know and I'm using firefox 60.x I think. All pages load quickly like they are supposed to.



On Jun 8, 2018, at 8:07 AM, Danni <luv2ride67@...> wrote:


Is it supposed to work with NVDA and if so any idea why it takes so long to load? my computre updated without my permission "I'd had it marked never update" and am getting the same problem I did in november when it updated! I go to a site and wait and wait for it to load or click start escape taskbar over to page I was waiting on to find it works why is it doing this? and is there a fix?


Re: Firefox Quantum?

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Yes well, I find that for some reason firefox never seems to tell nvda its finished loading the page since way back in version45, well sometimes it will but most times hitting alt and esc suddenly reveals the page is in fact there. I now am using waterfox64 and I have no issues at all, so it has something to do with firefox. I think it clogs up the processor core that is running nvda making it not see the signal that the has loaded.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Danni" <luv2ride67@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 4:07 PM
Subject: [nvda] Firefox Quantum?


Is it supposed to work with NVDA and if so any idea why it takes so long to load? my computre updated without my permission "I'd had it marked never update" and am getting the same problem I did in november when it updated! I go to a site and wait and wait for it to load or click start escape taskbar over to page I was waiting on to find it works why is it doing this? and is there a fix?


Re: More non reading problems in new dropbox on windows 7 with latest master snaps

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Yes I think it was also the same person who reported my occasional lock up on nvda updates too. I do agree with no way for everyone else tactually get the problem it is going to be difficult to troubleshoot these issues.
I cannot at the moment think what it might be that has been changed.
Recently had to uninstall Google drive due to it crashing on start up a lot, but there is nothing out of the ordinary running on either system from what I can tell looking at the start up programs or even using autorun.
I can only think that maybe some obscure dll has become unregistered, but the tool in the current snaps is supposed to cover all of those.
At the moment these issues are mostly annoying but not game stoppers, bas I have no intention of doing any reformats etc, and indeed have tried taking computer back and forward with no actual changes in behaviour.

I suppose some odd behaviour from a driver might account for it as apart from the ssd the two machines are hardware wise very similar.


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
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Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] More non reading problems in new dropbox on windows 7 with latest master snaps


I'm not talking about the new shared components window. I don't know anything about that and we haven't gotten responses from anyone else about whether they see it.

Concerning the preferences tabs, it sounds suspiciously likely that you have done something in both machines that makes these things not work. I don't know what, an add on to something, running some sort of maintanence program, something. Why haven't we seen one other report about either of these problems and why, even when you specifically asked about the preferences in Drop Box, didn't one person report the same problem?

Gene
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Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 6:39 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] More non reading problems in new dropbox on windows 7 with latest master snaps


Hi. In addition to the preferences tab being totally blank on my two
machines running windows 7, a new window for shared folders seems to have
been invented that asks permission to delete from all devices when you
delete a file. However it just looks like a blank empty window, but
sometimes I can hear the content but I seemingly cannot know for sure I have
clicked the button as it seems not to have any kind of way to know where it
is.
Now some people on here say the preferences work, but they do not for me,
so could somebody look into this issue as I know dropbox is often used by
us.
If I have two machines one with the pro and one with home of windows 7 not
reading these screens in nvda, there are probably going to be others.
I have not had time to try older versions as yet, but before I start
ticketing I'd like to know if its nvda or dropbox.
Ta muchly.
Brian

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Re: A security question about the dll tool

Mohamed
 

Are you referring to the COM registration fixing tool? If so, I'm pretty sure that all it does it write CLS IDs to the registry for accessibility related DLLs.

On 6/8/2018 5:50 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I see in the new RC3 of nvda 2018.2 that the dll registration tool is run on install  now. However if one puts a portable version on a stick and takes it to another computer at a library, and uses it portably, what would running the registration tool do when run?
I mean it could well be that security would stop it working at all but if it were allowed this would be a security risk.

Just wondered as I cannot test this scenario.

Of course I guess they could just ban anything running at all from a stick without prior permission I supplose.
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Re: accessible money

Andy
 


We must remember that not everyone has a smart phone.
 
Andy
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money

Do we need it? Now that we have apps that can tell us what is what?  Just asking.
 
From: Andy
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money
 
In 2008 the Federal courts ruled that the U. S. Treasury Dept. had to make currency accessible. They have diddled around for years, with study after study, and still no accessible money. They just don't want to do it, and are hoping that people will use credit and devit cards, etc.
Andy
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Jaffar Sidek
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money
 

Hi.  I am in a rather unique position because i get to experience both sides of money, accessible and inaccessible.  Here in Singapore, we have currency notes of different sizes and made of different materials.  $2, $5 and $10 are of different sizes and are made of plastic, $2 being the smallest and $10 being the biggest size of this sub group.  Then there

is the group of $50, $100, $500 and $1000 currency notes.  These are made of tough paper, again of different sizes.  It is easy to tell the diference between one denomination from the other once you get use to it.  On the other hand, I am married to a Filipina, and The Philippines Peso notes are all of the same size, no matter which currency, so i need guidance on that score when I am back in the philippines with wife and family.  Cheers!
On 6/9/2018 11:03 AM, Gene wrote:
It isn't reasonable to ask that switching to coins be done. 
 
I'll use American denominations in examples since I don't know your denominations.  Who is going to be willing to carry nothing but coins?  If I pay for something with a ten dollar coin, I'm not going to want to get four coins for dollars and two quarters, a dime and a nickel back.  If I pay for something with a ten dollar coin and I'm owed eight dollars and twenty cents, I am not going to want to receive a five dollar coin, three one dollar coins and two dimes.  People aren't going to walk around with lots of heavy coins jingling in their pockets and wearing out the material in their clothes. 
 
and think of all the different coins you would have to learn.  The penny, nickel, dime, quarter, dollar, five dollar, ten, twenty, fifty, assuming you never have a higher denomination. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Canazzi
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money
 

Hi Kerryn,

 

If you can convince the powers that be in Trinidad to switch to all coinage rather than paper money, that would be the ideal thing to do.  Most blind people here in the United States have no difficulty with coinage.  The pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters are all differently rimmed and of different sizes and weights.  In the United States, we like our paper money.  There was great resistance to any change for large denominations than quarters.  However in a smaller country like Trinidad, you might have less resistance.  Good luck.

 


On 6/8/2018 8:29 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:
hi
we in trinidad would like to make our money accessible to our blind or visually  impaired persons
what guidelines we should work with as to approach the powers that be, in our meeting on tuesday 12th june, in having this done, in terms of technology, tack tile immages etc
thanks
 

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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: accessible money

Holger Fiallo <hfiallo@...>
 

Do we need it? Now that we have apps that can tell us what is what?  Just asking.
 

From: Andy
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 10:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money
 
In 2008 the Federal courts ruled that the U. S. Treasury Dept. had to make currency accessible. They have diddled around for years, with study after study, and still no accessible money. They just don't want to do it, and are hoping that people will use credit and devit cards, etc.
Andy
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Jaffar Sidek
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money
 

Hi.  I am in a rather unique position because i get to experience both sides of money, accessible and inaccessible.  Here in Singapore, we have currency notes of different sizes and made of different materials.  $2, $5 and $10 are of different sizes and are made of plastic, $2 being the smallest and $10 being the biggest size of this sub group.  Then there

is the group of $50, $100, $500 and $1000 currency notes.  These are made of tough paper, again of different sizes.  It is easy to tell the diference between one denomination from the other once you get use to it.  On the other hand, I am married to a Filipina, and The Philippines Peso notes are all of the same size, no matter which currency, so i need guidance on that score when I am back in the philippines with wife and family.  Cheers!
On 6/9/2018 11:03 AM, Gene wrote:
It isn't reasonable to ask that switching to coins be done. 
 
I'll use American denominations in examples since I don't know your denominations.  Who is going to be willing to carry nothing but coins?  If I pay for something with a ten dollar coin, I'm not going to want to get four coins for dollars and two quarters, a dime and a nickel back.  If I pay for something with a ten dollar coin and I'm owed eight dollars and twenty cents, I am not going to want to receive a five dollar coin, three one dollar coins and two dimes.  People aren't going to walk around with lots of heavy coins jingling in their pockets and wearing out the material in their clothes. 
 
and think of all the different coins you would have to learn.  The penny, nickel, dime, quarter, dollar, five dollar, ten, twenty, fifty, assuming you never have a higher denomination. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Canazzi
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money
 

Hi Kerryn,

 

If you can convince the powers that be in Trinidad to switch to all coinage rather than paper money, that would be the ideal thing to do.  Most blind people here in the United States have no difficulty with coinage.  The pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters are all differently rimmed and of different sizes and weights.  In the United States, we like our paper money.  There was great resistance to any change for large denominations than quarters.  However in a smaller country like Trinidad, you might have less resistance.  Good luck.

 


On 6/8/2018 8:29 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:
hi
we in trinidad would like to make our money accessible to our blind or visually  impaired persons
what guidelines we should work with as to approach the powers that be, in our meeting on tuesday 12th june, in having this done, in terms of technology, tack tile immages etc
thanks
 

-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: accessible money

Andy
 


In 2008 the Federal courts ruled that the U. S. Treasury Dept. had to make currency accessible. They have diddled around for years, with study after study, and still no accessible money. They just don't want to do it, and are hoping that people will use credit and devit cards, etc.
Andy
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money

Hi.  I am in a rather unique position because i get to experience both sides of money, accessible and inaccessible.  Here in Singapore, we have currency notes of different sizes and made of different materials.  $2, $5 and $10 are of different sizes and are made of plastic, $2 being the smallest and $10 being the biggest size of this sub group.  Then there

is the group of $50, $100, $500 and $1000 currency notes.  These are made of tough paper, again of different sizes.  It is easy to tell the diference between one denomination from the other once you get use to it.  On the other hand, I am married to a Filipina, and The Philippines Peso notes are all of the same size, no matter which currency, so i need guidance on that score when I am back in the philippines with wife and family.  Cheers!
On 6/9/2018 11:03 AM, Gene wrote:
It isn't reasonable to ask that switching to coins be done. 
 
I'll use American denominations in examples since I don't know your denominations.  Who is going to be willing to carry nothing but coins?  If I pay for something with a ten dollar coin, I'm not going to want to get four coins for dollars and two quarters, a dime and a nickel back.  If I pay for something with a ten dollar coin and I'm owed eight dollars and twenty cents, I am not going to want to receive a five dollar coin, three one dollar coins and two dimes.  People aren't going to walk around with lots of heavy coins jingling in their pockets and wearing out the material in their clothes. 
 
and think of all the different coins you would have to learn.  The penny, nickel, dime, quarter, dollar, five dollar, ten, twenty, fifty, assuming you never have a higher denomination. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money

Hi Kerryn,


If you can convince the powers that be in Trinidad to switch to all coinage rather than paper money, that would be the ideal thing to do.  Most blind people here in the United States have no difficulty with coinage.  The pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters are all differently rimmed and of different sizes and weights.  In the United States, we like our paper money.  There was great resistance to any change for large denominations than quarters.  However in a smaller country like Trinidad, you might have less resistance.  Good luck.



On 6/8/2018 8:29 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:
hi
we in trinidad would like to make our money accessible to our blind or visually  impaired persons
what guidelines we should work with as to approach the powers that be, in our meeting on tuesday 12th june, in having this done, in terms of technology, tack tile immages etc
thanks
 

-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: accessible money

Jaffar Sidek
 

Hi.  I am in a rather unique position because i get to experience both sides of money, accessible and inaccessible.  Here in Singapore, we have currency notes of different sizes and made of different materials.  $2, $5 and $10 are of different sizes and are made of plastic, $2 being the smallest and $10 being the biggest size of this sub group.  Then there

is the group of $50, $100, $500 and $1000 currency notes.  These are made of tough paper, again of different sizes.  It is easy to tell the diference between one denomination from the other once you get use to it.  On the other hand, I am married to a Filipina, and The Philippines Peso notes are all of the same size, no matter which currency, so i need guidance on that score when I am back in the philippines with wife and family.  Cheers!

On 6/9/2018 11:03 AM, Gene wrote:
It isn't reasonable to ask that switching to coins be done. 
 
I'll use American denominations in examples since I don't know your denominations.  Who is going to be willing to carry nothing but coins?  If I pay for something with a ten dollar coin, I'm not going to want to get four coins for dollars and two quarters, a dime and a nickel back.  If I pay for something with a ten dollar coin and I'm owed eight dollars and twenty cents, I am not going to want to receive a five dollar coin, three one dollar coins and two dimes.  People aren't going to walk around with lots of heavy coins jingling in their pockets and wearing out the material in their clothes. 
 
and think of all the different coins you would have to learn.  The penny, nickel, dime, quarter, dollar, five dollar, ten, twenty, fifty, assuming you never have a higher denomination. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money

Hi Kerryn,


If you can convince the powers that be in Trinidad to switch to all coinage rather than paper money, that would be the ideal thing to do.  Most blind people here in the United States have no difficulty with coinage.  The pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters are all differently rimmed and of different sizes and weights.  In the United States, we like our paper money.  There was great resistance to any change for large denominations than quarters.  However in a smaller country like Trinidad, you might have less resistance.  Good luck.



On 6/8/2018 8:29 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:
hi
we in trinidad would like to make our money accessible to our blind or visually  impaired persons
what guidelines we should work with as to approach the powers that be, in our meeting on tuesday 12th june, in having this done, in terms of technology, tack tile immages etc
thanks
 

-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: accessible money

Gene
 

It isn't reasonable to ask that switching to coins be done. 
 
I'll use American denominations in examples since I don't know your denominations.  Who is going to be willing to carry nothing but coins?  If I pay for something with a ten dollar coin, I'm not going to want to get four coins for dollars and two quarters, a dime and a nickel back.  If I pay for something with a ten dollar coin and I'm owed eight dollars and twenty cents, I am not going to want to receive a five dollar coin, three one dollar coins and two dimes.  People aren't going to walk around with lots of heavy coins jingling in their pockets and wearing out the material in their clothes. 
 
and think of all the different coins you would have to learn.  The penny, nickel, dime, quarter, dollar, five dollar, ten, twenty, fifty, assuming you never have a higher denomination. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money

Hi Kerryn,


If you can convince the powers that be in Trinidad to switch to all coinage rather than paper money, that would be the ideal thing to do.  Most blind people here in the United States have no difficulty with coinage.  The pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters are all differently rimmed and of different sizes and weights.  In the United States, we like our paper money.  There was great resistance to any change for large denominations than quarters.  However in a smaller country like Trinidad, you might have less resistance.  Good luck.



On 6/8/2018 8:29 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:
hi
we in trinidad would like to make our money accessible to our blind or visually  impaired persons
what guidelines we should work with as to approach the powers that be, in our meeting on tuesday 12th june, in having this done, in terms of technology, tack tile immages etc
thanks
 

-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: end of the line for nvda skype group

 

AAh ok, I will look at hangouts, at least for part of an alternit.

Skype classic still exists for now but yeah I will look at hangouts to.

On 6/9/2018 2:14 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 12:05 am, Shaun Everiss wrote:

I don't need skype, and to be honest I may end up abandoning it and
calling the expensive but accessible way over the phone
For those who have Google accounts, it's worth looking at Google Hangouts.  However, in order to be able to send/receive text messages to phones you also need to get a phone number from Google Voice, which is available only within the USA.  You can, however, make calls with Hangouts no matter where you are, I believe.
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Re: end of the line for nvda skype group

 

On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 12:05 am, Shaun Everiss wrote:
I don't need skype, and to be honest I may end up abandoning it and calling the expensive but accessible way over the phone
For those who have Google accounts, it's worth looking at Google Hangouts.  However, in order to be able to send/receive text messages to phones you also need to get a phone number from Google Voice, which is available only within the USA.  You can, however, make calls with Hangouts no matter where you are, I believe.
 
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          ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

 

 


URL links

Brennen Kinch
 

hi does anyone know if there’s a way to take a URL link and convert it into an HTML file


Re: accessible money

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

We have what I think is a really good system here in Canada. Coins for small denominations (up to two dollars), and $5, $10, $20, $50 and $100 bills. The new bills are made of a kind of plasticised paper that can still tear but doesn’t wrinkle easily and is somewhat water-resistant. The bills have tactile markings on them, that resemble full braille cells. You can detect the denomination by counting the number of cells on the bill. This works better, I think, than putting braille numbers on bills, because a single dot could easily be rubbed out, but the impression of a full cell usually remains intact.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: June 8, 2018 9:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money

 

Hi Kerryn,

 

If you can convince the powers that be in Trinidad to switch to all coinage rather than paper money, that would be the ideal thing to do.  Most blind people here in the United States have no difficulty with coinage.  The pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters are all differently rimmed and of different sizes and weights.  In the United States, we like our paper money.  There was great resistance to any change for large denominations than quarters.  However in a smaller country like Trinidad, you might have less resistance.  Good luck.

 

 

On 6/8/2018 8:29 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:

hi

we in trinidad would like to make our money accessible to our blind or visually  impaired persons

what guidelines we should work with as to approach the powers that be, in our meeting on tuesday 12th june, in having this done, in terms of technology, tack tile immages etc

thanks

 



-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: accessible money

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Kerryn,


If you can convince the powers that be in Trinidad to switch to all coinage rather than paper money, that would be the ideal thing to do.  Most blind people here in the United States have no difficulty with coinage.  The pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters are all differently rimmed and of different sizes and weights.  In the United States, we like our paper money.  There was great resistance to any change for large denominations than quarters.  However in a smaller country like Trinidad, you might have less resistance.  Good luck.



On 6/8/2018 8:29 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:
hi
we in trinidad would like to make our money accessible to our blind or visually  impaired persons
what guidelines we should work with as to approach the powers that be, in our meeting on tuesday 12th june, in having this done, in terms of technology, tack tile immages etc
thanks
 

-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: end of the line for nvda skype group

 

Thats the skype 8 program, the program I will want to avoid, skype 7 is simple enough.

I have used electron apps with speech and unless you handle one key press at a time they can be slow, you can't type quickly at all.

On 6/9/2018 3:25 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Google for and use skype electron. I heard that is a simpler version of skype. It by the way only works on windows 7 so that won't help most of us.

On Jun 8, 2018, at 12:05 AM, Shaun Everiss <@smeveriss> wrote:

I havn't found a way to stop it updating, however you can continue to download and use classic for now.

On win10 it has no updates so it doesn't ask you to do that.

I have pulled out of the nvda descussion group, and I don't need skype to be active right now.

There should be update settings under advanced but I have not found this at all.

As for the future, eventually everyone will have to use the universal app, maybe but who knows.

I don't need skype, and to be honest I may end up abandoning it and calling the expensive but accessible way over the phone or using email.




On 6/8/2018 6:38 PM, zahra wrote:
hi shaun and all.
is it possible to use classic version and ban updating it that never
updates to version 8?
is there any solution for skype?
i just need voice call and reading and sending messages, if it can
supports sending files is good, but the most important priority for me
is voice call and text message.
i dont need group call at this time and it was not be useful for me
until now, not sure about my future needs.

On 6/8/18, Shaun Everiss <@smeveriss> wrote:
What about groups and personal things.

One idea for me when skype classic finally dies is to try google
hangouts as coolblindtech guys did use it for one of the reviews and the
quality of the recording was top notch.




On 6/8/2018 6:03 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Check out zoom. I use it for all of my business meetings and I have not
touched team talk since. You can do screen sharing (yes that is
accessible) ) and moe with it. Other users can call in by phone if they
want to or need to. I really love it.

On Jun 7, 2018, at 2:56 AM, Shaun Everiss <@smeveriss> wrote:

It looks like its not completely the end.

It appears for 7 and 8 users we will have to just not install the skype
classic update.

For 10 users, it appears microsoft have left us alone.

Previded we can get the skype classic program, ms doesn't ask us to
switch over to the universal.

So at least for the moment they are leaving us alone who knows how long
that is but still.

I have not as yet tried this.

The nvda skype group didn't have much traffic and I was thinking of
pulling out anyway.

Skype isnot a real issue for me as I hardly use it.

Skype web via miranda works for text, now if I can use it to call skype
then fine I guess.

There is zello but I have never figured it out as such.

On the other side those of us on android and ios devices will still be
able to use skype,.

This seems to effect desktops, that is windows, mac and linux only.

For group chats there is teamtalk, and tthub.org <http://tthub.org/> are
offering competitive rates right now.

I am interested though in some kind of voip or sip app that is easy to
use, accessible and can use as a protocol skype calls, messages, groups
and file shares which are the only things I ever use.

If that can be done and if I can login with my skype account then fine.

Right now skype classic still works.

Eventually that may die but who knows.

The skype interface with miranda ng is a bit different, I will have to
get used to it but right now well.

I don't use skype enough to justify upgrading to anything new, I barely
use that much of skype's power as it is.




On 6/7/2018 9:00 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I have to say its not been used here for almost a year now.
I find it irritating that such a simple system is not being made
available in a basic form for low tech users and without the flashy
front end changes every fortnight. Skype always had a reputation of
bringing out improvements that broke it, and it seems this has not
stopped with Microsoft owning it, sadly.
So what else is out there for desktop machines for good quality audio
over the internet free?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss"
<@smeveriss>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 8:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] end of the line for nvda skype group


Hi all of you.

Pulling out of nvda skype group now because of 1, skypes uncertain
future and 2. the fact I hardly contribute to it, I will shift all my
conversational contributions to this list from now on if I havn't
allready.

I will still use skype classic for family, but due to things as they
stand I may have to remove skype from my contact and other info, it
will be email for internationals only, skype if they need, but I will
no longer advertise.

Microsoft has lost another user, skype classic interface is easy to
understand, the new one I just don't care for.

Its a pitty its got to end this way but I may as well cut my losses
right now rather than having to bother with things going bang.

I will have to either search for another solution or start paying high
charges for international calls because skype new versions are
inaccessible.

Way to go ms.

Can't skype classic just be pulled from the update loop and still be
kept active?







accessible money

Kerryn Gunness
 


hi
we in trinidad would like to make our money accessible to our blind or visually  impaired persons
what guidelines we should work with as to approach the powers that be, in our meeting on tuesday 12th june, in having this done, in terms of technology, tack tile immages etc
thanks
 


Re: NvDA Remote Support add-on: emergency hotfix for wxPython 4 users posted

Jonathan Milam
 

Thanks very much, Joseph. I absolutely depend on this add-on to do my job, and without it, I would really be in an impossible jam. Thanks again for helping keep this add-on up-to-date.

Jonathan


On Jun 8, 2018, at 2:11 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

I created an emergency hotfix version of Remote add-on 2.1 that makes it compatible with wxPython 4 (NVDA next snapshots at the moment). Until this hotfix is part of official Remote add-on package, please consider this as a third-party hotfix.

 

Download link:

http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvdaaddons/remote-2.1wxPy4.nvda-addon

 

Cheers,

Jsoeph


Re: conversion info

Kerryn Gunness
 


not a problem brian
no worries
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] conversion info

On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 12:04 pm, Kerryn Gunness wrote:
i got through
i copied the text from ms word and pasted it into paint,
then in  paint, i saved the file as jpg
I misinterpreted your original question entirely.  I thought you were somehow trying to take a file of text and run some sort of converter on it to make an image, which you can't really do.

You used one of the easiest ways to take text and insert it into an image file, even if that image is strictly of the text.
 
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Re: conversion info

Kerryn Gunness
 


thanks

----- Original Message -----
From: JM Casey
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] conversion info

Nice job. I wouldn’t have thought so, but apparently, this works.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
Sent: June 8, 2018 3:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] conversion info

 

i got through

i copied the text from ms word and pasted it into paint,

then in  paint, i saved the file as jpg

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Vogel

Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 2:13 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] conversion info

 

On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 10:26 am, Kerryn Gunness wrote:

can one convert text into jpg immages?

No.
 
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     Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

          ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore