Hi, everyone,


Thunderbird is marking all messages including the new ones as read.
How do I get it to recognize that new messages haven't been read?


Thanks for your help in advance.


Rosemarie

On Jul 11, 2018, at 6:14 AM, Matt Turner <meturner2214@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi folks.

Having this weird problem.

I can shift+tab in chrome, and see all of what ever links.

What I can't do is press up/ down erro, page up or down, home/ end, that doesn't work.

I'm using nvda beta, and Google Chrome Canary.

Windows 8.1, 64 bit.

I've restarted the computer.

BTW, I've had this laptop sent 2011.

That's why I'm thinking it could be the computer.

I just went to the NVDA site on groups.io and found the sublist about dev and clicked subscribe from there.

I had gone there to try and configure parameters for the nvda list and was surprised to see there were sub-lists available.

Let us know if you find the proper place.

Jonathan Cohn

Hi,

I’d like to look through the material on my own time created on the dev list for new developers. I thought I was connected to the dev list, but must have done something incorrectly. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Thanks.

Jim

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Hi, that is a really nice concept, so how do you put in the marks so you can select a block of audio? 

I won't discuss how you add sound to an already existing recording.  But deleting audio is the same in principle as in a word processor document, though the way you do it is different.  The concept is identical.

 

In a word processor document, if you want to delete a phrase in a sentence, you select the phrase and press delete.

 

In an audio editing program, if you want  to delete a block of audio, say ten seconds where you talked and a fire engine siren was recorded, you would mark the start of the bloc, move to the end, mark the end, and issue the delete command.  The bloc of audio is gone.  The start and end markers select the material between them and you delete it.  Just as in a word processor, material must be selected for you to do something with it, delete it, change its volume, whatever you want to do with it.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

I have a presentation that demonstrates removing audio in recording programs but if you get good instruction or good instructional materiaal, that will be described if you are working with a recording program that allows editing and the material teaches that program in any depth.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 4:43 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

 

Regarding mixing music or other audio with voice and having the volume of the other audio automatically go down when you talk, as far as I know Audacity doesn't have that feature.  that would be something to ask about on the Audacity list since I don't follow the program carefully these days.  It may be a factor in deciding what program to use.  I don't know how wwell this feature works. 

 

If it moves to volume down too quickly when you talk and then moves it up too quickly when you stop, it could be annoying.  If it moves the volume up too soon after you stop talking, it might raise and lower the volume between sentences where you want it to remain at a constant lower volume while you speak a number of sentences.   I've never heard this feature.  It might be useful to have someone send a demonstration.  If someone is thinking of taking time to learn something about using a demo that one might buy, finding out if this feature is worth having might be a good idea before putting time into learning the program as opposed to a free alternative.

 

As far as using a USB microphone is concerned, I don't know if either Gold Wave or Audacity has the ability to record the sound from one sound card with the sound from another sound card simultaneously.  You may find it much better to mix using a mixer and use a standard microphone that plugs into the mixer.  I expect that these days, getting a reasonable microphone wouldn't be expensive.  I don't use USB microphones because I see no advantage in them and I avoid the complications of working with two sound cards. 

 

However, these are my opinions and those who know a lot more about the subject may say I'm wrong about the points I'm making.  But I want to keep things simple and do things efficiently.  If I added music to podcasts, which I haven't done, I would seriously consider using a mixer if I did more than the most simple and small amount of using music.  Having just a music introduction and end which I talk over is something I wouldn't buy a mixer for.  Having music interspersed throughout a podcast and do ing so on a regular basis is something I would seriously consider having a mixer for.  I would think it would save a lot of time in preparation.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 4:23 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

 

You don't need Goldwave.  You may want to try or use it or you may prefer it but need means require.  In an earlier message, you, yourself said, that you use Gold Wave But Audacity is a good choice as well.  I don't know if one is easier or better to use.  Goldwave costs about 40 U.S. dollars, Audacity is free.  Gold Wave has a demo so you can try it. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

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Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 2:20 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

 

Yes Goldwave is what you need. its easy as editing a word document and
althou it needs to be registered, I've never regretted it.  See legality on
music though, you can get copyright free stuff often on  web sites
specialising in it.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Claire Potter" <claire.potter99@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA


> Hi Gene, you have totally confused me now, I just want to be able to
> remove bits of audio which do not need to be there, and add in the
> jingles and music at the appropriate times.
>
> Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website:
> http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
>
> On 10/07/2018 16:58, Gene wrote:
>> What is the next level? Are you editing an mp3 file and then saving
>> it again as an MP3 file? Every time you edit a file and then reencode
>> it while saving, you lose audio quality. Either do all your editing
>> in a lossless format such as wave, then save the final file as MP3, or
>> edit an existing mp3 file using a program like MP3 Direct Cut, which
>> edits existing MP3 files and saves the edited file without reencoding
>> it. If you edit and save an MP3 file reencoding it every time, after
>> three or four saves, you will start to hear significant audio
>> degredation.
>> There may be other things you should know as the discussion continues
>> about how to decide if you want to edit in a lossless format and save
>> the entire file as an MP3 as the last save or use a program like MP3
>> Direct Cut.
>> For now, basics such as just what you want to do would be the place to
>> begin.
>> If you edit an MP3 file using a program like MP3 Direct Cut, you may
>> introduce artifacts, depending on how the recording program recorded
>> it. You can use a recording program that eliminates this problem.
>> I'm saying that here so you know you have that option.
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Claire Potter <mailto:claire.potter99@...>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 10, 2018 10:45 AM
>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version
>> of NVDA
>>
>> Hi Joseph, I have used NVDA for about 6 months now, I would not by any
>> means call myself an expert yet but I am quite confident in using it,
>> so it is just Studio and editing programs that I am new to. My friend
>> did say that I can’t edit in Studio itself, so that is maybe where
>> something like Audacity or even Total recorder would come in. I do
>> have Total recorder and I really like using that for simple editing
>> tasks, so for example if I have a file that is 30 minutes long but I
>> wanted to select a section to remove it is really simple to do that,
>> that is about as far as I currently go with editing, but I would like
>> to take it to the next level! Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out
>> my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
>>
>> On 10/07/2018 16:37, Joseph Lee wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> > Yes, you can use StationPlaylist Studio for pre-recording shows (a
>> bit involved), but you may need a different program for editing the
>> file afterwards.
>> > Just so we can help you better: are you a new NVDA user, a new
>> Studio user, or both? If both, then I suggest learning NVDA first so
>> you can get an idea as to how to use the screen reader before using
>> Studio. Once you become comfortable with NVDA, then I suggest learning
>> how to use Studio so you can use its features efficiently.
>> > There is as NVDA add-on (similar to scripts for other screen
>> readers) that makes improvements to how NVDA interacts with Studio,
>> but that's getting way ahead of the broadcast.
>> > Cheers,
>> > Joseph
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Claire
>> Potter
>> > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 8:30 AM
>> > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> > Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version
>> of NVDA
>> >
>> > Hi Joseph, it was a friend who used to use it a little while ago, I
>> can’t remember what exactly she said but it was something like if it
>> was used to produce pre-recorded shows those are then saved as MP3
>> files which I can edit as if they were podcasts, like I said though, I
>> am quite new to the whole world of audio editing and production etc so
>> I can’t quite remember what she said.
>> >
>> > Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website:
>> http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
>> >
>> > On 10/07/2018 16:12, Joseph Lee wrote:
>> >> Hi Claire,
>> >> Welcome to NVDA list.
>> >> Sorry to say the following as a reply to your first post, but do
>> you have a source who told you StationPlaylist Studio can be used for
>> creating podcasts? Studio is mostly meant for producing pre-recorded
>> or live shows on air, not necessarily used for podcast production (for
>> that, there are programs such as Audacity, GoldWave, and many others).
>> >> I'll ask some folks I know who uses StationPlaylist Studio
>> regarding this possibility.
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Joseph
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Claire
>> >> Potter
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:31 AM
>> >> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> >> Subject: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA
>> >>
>> >> Hi, I am new to this list and I hope someone can help me. I would like
>> >> to learn how to use Station playlist as I am a complete novice and I
>> >> would like to use Station playlist studio to record my own podcasts, I
>> >> am however unable to find a clear tutorial which explains how to do
>> >> this. I am using the latest version of NVDA. Can you help? -- Warm
>> >> regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website:
>> >> http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

Regarding mixing music or other audio with voice and having the volume of the other audio automatically go down when you talk, as far as I know Audacity doesn't have that feature.  that would be something to ask about on the Audacity list since I don't follow the program carefully these days.  It may be a factor in deciding what program to use.  I don't know how wwell this feature works. 

Yes Goldwave is what you need. its easy as editing a word document and
althou it needs to be registered, I've never regretted it.  See legality on
music though, you can get copyright free stuff often on  web sites
specialising in it.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Claire Potter" <claire.potter99@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA


> Hi Gene, you have totally confused me now, I just want to be able to
> remove bits of audio which do not need to be there, and add in the
> jingles and music at the appropriate times.
>
> Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website:
> http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
>
> On 10/07/2018 16:58, Gene wrote:
>> What is the next level? Are you editing an mp3 file and then saving
>> it again as an MP3 file? Every time you edit a file and then reencode
>> it while saving, you lose audio quality. Either do all your editing
>> in a lossless format such as wave, then save the final file as MP3, or
>> edit an existing mp3 file using a program like MP3 Direct Cut, which
>> edits existing MP3 files and saves the edited file without reencoding
>> it. If you edit and save an MP3 file reencoding it every time, after
>> three or four saves, you will start to hear significant audio
>> degredation.
>> There may be other things you should know as the discussion continues
>> about how to decide if you want to edit in a lossless format and save
>> the entire file as an MP3 as the last save or use a program like MP3
>> Direct Cut.
>> For now, basics such as just what you want to do would be the place to
>> begin.
>> If you edit an MP3 file using a program like MP3 Direct Cut, you may
>> introduce artifacts, depending on how the recording program recorded
>> it. You can use a recording program that eliminates this problem.
>> I'm saying that here so you know you have that option.
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Claire Potter <mailto:claire.potter99@...>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 10, 2018 10:45 AM
>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version
>> of NVDA
>>
>> Hi Joseph, I have used NVDA for about 6 months now, I would not by any
>> means call myself an expert yet but I am quite confident in using it,
>> so it is just Studio and editing programs that I am new to. My friend
>> did say that I can’t edit in Studio itself, so that is maybe where
>> something like Audacity or even Total recorder would come in. I do
>> have Total recorder and I really like using that for simple editing
>> tasks, so for example if I have a file that is 30 minutes long but I
>> wanted to select a section to remove it is really simple to do that,
>> that is about as far as I currently go with editing, but I would like
>> to take it to the next level! Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out
>> my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
>>
>> On 10/07/2018 16:37, Joseph Lee wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> > Yes, you can use StationPlaylist Studio for pre-recording shows (a
>> bit involved), but you may need a different program for editing the
>> file afterwards.
>> > Just so we can help you better: are you a new NVDA user, a new
>> Studio user, or both? If both, then I suggest learning NVDA first so
>> you can get an idea as to how to use the screen reader before using
>> Studio. Once you become comfortable with NVDA, then I suggest learning
>> how to use Studio so you can use its features efficiently.
>> > There is as NVDA add-on (similar to scripts for other screen
>> readers) that makes improvements to how NVDA interacts with Studio,
>> but that's getting way ahead of the broadcast.
>> > Cheers,
>> > Joseph
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Claire
>> Potter
>> > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 8:30 AM
>> > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> > Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version
>> of NVDA
>> >
>> > Hi Joseph, it was a friend who used to use it a little while ago, I
>> can’t remember what exactly she said but it was something like if it
>> was used to produce pre-recorded shows those are then saved as MP3
>> files which I can edit as if they were podcasts, like I said though, I
>> am quite new to the whole world of audio editing and production etc so
>> I can’t quite remember what she said.
>> >
>> > Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website:
>> http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
>> >
>> > On 10/07/2018 16:12, Joseph Lee wrote:
>> >> Hi Claire,
>> >> Welcome to NVDA list.
>> >> Sorry to say the following as a reply to your first post, but do
>> you have a source who told you StationPlaylist Studio can be used for
>> creating podcasts? Studio is mostly meant for producing pre-recorded
>> or live shows on air, not necessarily used for podcast production (for
>> that, there are programs such as Audacity, GoldWave, and many others).
>> >> I'll ask some folks I know who uses StationPlaylist Studio
>> regarding this possibility.
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Joseph
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Claire
>> >> Potter
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:31 AM
>> >> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> >> Subject: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA
>> >>
>> >> Hi, I am new to this list and I hope someone can help me. I would like
>> >> to learn how to use Station playlist as I am a complete novice and I
>> >> would like to use Station playlist studio to record my own podcasts, I
>> >> am however unable to find a clear tutorial which explains how to do
>> >> this. I am using the latest version of NVDA. Can you help? -- Warm
>> >> regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website:
>> >> http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

I won't discuss how you add sound to an already existing recording.  But deleting audio is the same in principle as in a word processor document, though the way you do it is different.  The concept is identical.

 

In a word processor document, if you want to delete a phrase in a sentence, you select the phrase and press delete.

 

In an audio editing program, if you want  to delete a block of audio, say ten seconds where you talked and a fire engine siren was recorded, you would mark the start of the bloc, move to the end, mark the end, and issue the delete command.  The bloc of audio is gone.  The start and end markers select the material between them and you delete it.  Just as in a word processor, material must be selected for you to do something with it, delete it, change its volume, whatever you want to do with it.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

I have a presentation that demonstrates removing audio in recording programs but if you get good instruction or good instructional materiaal, that will be described if you are working with a recording program that allows editing and the material teaches that program in any depth.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 4:43 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Regarding mixing music or other audio with voice and having the volume of the other audio automatically go down when you talk, as far as I know Audacity doesn't have that feature.  that would be something to ask about on the Audacity list since I don't follow the program carefully these days.  It may be a factor in deciding what program to use.  I don't know how wwell this feature works. 

 

If it moves to volume down too quickly when you talk and then moves it up too quickly when you stop, it could be annoying.  If it moves the volume up too soon after you stop talking, it might raise and lower the volume between sentences where you want it to remain at a constant lower volume while you speak a number of sentences.   I've never heard this feature.  It might be useful to have someone send a demonstration.  If someone is thinking of taking time to learn something about using a demo that one might buy, finding out if this feature is worth having might be a good idea before putting time into learning the program as opposed to a free alternative.

 

As far as using a USB microphone is concerned, I don't know if either Gold Wave or Audacity has the ability to record the sound from one sound card with the sound from another sound card simultaneously.  You may find it much better to mix using a mixer and use a standard microphone that plugs into the mixer.  I expect that these days, getting a reasonable microphone wouldn't be expensive.  I don't use USB microphones because I see no advantage in them and I avoid the complications of working with two sound cards. 

 

However, these are my opinions and those who know a lot more about the subject may say I'm wrong about the points I'm making.  But I want to keep things simple and do things efficiently.  If I added music to podcasts, which I haven't done, I would seriously consider using a mixer if I did more than the most simple and small amount of using music.  Having just a music introduction and end which I talk over is something I wouldn't buy a mixer for.  Having music interspersed throughout a podcast and do ing so on a regular basis is something I would seriously consider having a mixer for.  I would think it would save a lot of time in preparation.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 4:23 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

You don't need Goldwave.  You may want to try or use it or you may prefer it but need means require.  In an earlier message, you, yourself said, that you use Gold Wave But Audacity is a good choice as well.  I don't know if one is easier or better to use.  Goldwave costs about 40 U.S. dollars, Audacity is free.  Gold Wave has a demo so you can try it. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io

Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 2:20 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Yes Goldwave is what you need. its easy as editing a word document and
althou it needs to be registered, I've never regretted it.  See legality on
music though, you can get copyright free stuff often on  web sites
specialising in it.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Claire Potter" <claire.potter99@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA


> Hi Gene, you have totally confused me now, I just want to be able to
> remove bits of audio which do not need to be there, and add in the
> jingles and music at the appropriate times.
>
> Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website:
> http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
>
> On 10/07/2018 16:58, Gene wrote:
>> What is the next level? Are you editing an mp3 file and then saving
>> it again as an MP3 file? Every time you edit a file and then reencode
>> it while saving, you lose audio quality. Either do all your editing
>> in a lossless format such as wave, then save the final file as MP3, or
>> edit an existing mp3 file using a program like MP3 Direct Cut, which
>> edits existing MP3 files and saves the edited file without reencoding
>> it. If you edit and save an MP3 file reencoding it every time, after
>> three or four saves, you will start to hear significant audio
>> degredation.
>> There may be other things you should know as the discussion continues
>> about how to decide if you want to edit in a lossless format and save
>> the entire file as an MP3 as the last save or use a program like MP3
>> Direct Cut.
>> For now, basics such as just what you want to do would be the place to
>> begin.
>> If you edit an MP3 file using a program like MP3 Direct Cut, you may
>> introduce artifacts, depending on how the recording program recorded
>> it. You can use a recording program that eliminates this problem.
>> I'm saying that here so you know you have that option.
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Claire Potter <mailto:claire.potter99@...>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 10, 2018 10:45 AM
>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version
>> of NVDA
>>
>> Hi Joseph, I have used NVDA for about 6 months now, I would not by any
>> means call myself an expert yet but I am quite confident in using it,
>> so it is just Studio and editing programs that I am new to. My friend
>> did say that I can’t edit in Studio itself, so that is maybe where
>> something like Audacity or even Total recorder would come in. I do
>> have Total recorder and I really like using that for simple editing
>> tasks, so for example if I have a file that is 30 minutes long but I
>> wanted to select a section to remove it is really simple to do that,
>> that is about as far as I currently go with editing, but I would like
>> to take it to the next level! Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out
>> my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
>>
>> On 10/07/2018 16:37, Joseph Lee wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> > Yes, you can use StationPlaylist Studio for pre-recording shows (a
>> bit involved), but you may need a different program for editing the
>> file afterwards.
>> > Just so we can help you better: are you a new NVDA user, a new
>> Studio user, or both? If both, then I suggest learning NVDA first so
>> you can get an idea as to how to use the screen reader before using
>> Studio. Once you become comfortable with NVDA, then I suggest learning
>> how to use Studio so you can use its features efficiently.
>> > There is as NVDA add-on (similar to scripts for other screen
>> readers) that makes improvements to how NVDA interacts with Studio,
>> but that's getting way ahead of the broadcast.
>> > Cheers,
>> > Joseph
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Claire
>> Potter
>> > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 8:30 AM
>> > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> > Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version
>> of NVDA
>> >
>> > Hi Joseph, it was a friend who used to use it a little while ago, I
>> can’t remember what exactly she said but it was something like if it
>> was used to produce pre-recorded shows those are then saved as MP3
>> files which I can edit as if they were podcasts, like I said though, I
>> am quite new to the whole world of audio editing and production etc so
>> I can’t quite remember what she said.
>> >
>> > Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website:
>> http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
>> >
>> > On 10/07/2018 16:12, Joseph Lee wrote:
>> >> Hi Claire,
>> >> Welcome to NVDA list.
>> >> Sorry to say the following as a reply to your first post, but do
>> you have a source who told you StationPlaylist Studio can be used for
>> creating podcasts? Studio is mostly meant for producing pre-recorded
>> or live shows on air, not necessarily used for podcast production (for
>> that, there are programs such as Audacity, GoldWave, and many others).
>> >> I'll ask some folks I know who uses StationPlaylist Studio
>> regarding this possibility.
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Joseph
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Claire
>> >> Potter
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:31 AM
>> >> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> >> Subject: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA
>> >>
>> >> Hi, I am new to this list and I hope someone can help me. I would like
>> >> to learn how to use Station playlist as I am a complete novice and I
>> >> would like to use Station playlist studio to record my own podcasts, I
>> >> am however unable to find a clear tutorial which explains how to do
>> >> this. I am using the latest version of NVDA. Can you help? -- Warm
>> >> regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website:
>> >> http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
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Windows 10 1803 has a “focus assist” feature that will enable you to suppress notifications while you’re engaged in work from which you don’t want to be distracted.

Hi All,

I am running the latest win10 and nvda.  I just had outlook 2016 re installed and when I receive a new message it says notification and then  starts reading the message.  Is there a  setting I need to change that will stop this behavior?  Thanks for any help with this.   

Regards, Gary KN4Ox

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Hi,

RE: Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

I have added the following to all NVDA related pages - For a variety of NVDA related resources from around the world,
please visit the NVDA screen reader related resources page at the following link NVDA screen reader related resources

Regards,
Gene NZ

On 5/6/2018 12:43 PM, Adriani Botez wrote:

Dear Gene,

 

this is grat idea. It will be helpful for many people. Now I hope google translate will improve more in the near future.

 

 

Best

Adriani

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New Zealand
Gesendet: Samstag, 28. April 2018 07:56
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

 

Hi Adriani

 

I have just added a link to the google translate page for other languages on the main web page.

You can jump down by letter H to its heading then go down to the link then press the enter key where it will take you to another page.

 

For some reason i could not put in a plug in to do it and it wanted it on every page so have gone down this other route. There is a heading that says some thing like translate this website to another language and a link to the translate page. The default language is english and the website main page is already in the edit section to translate. it is then a matter of changing it to another language then having it translate to it. Just after the language combo box you want it to go to is where you can read it in another language. it also seems if you click on one of the links the next page is also translated but only on that page i have it pointing to off my website.

You will see what i mean when it is translated.

 

 

 

it may help? for people where english is not there first language like mine.

 

Not sure if the steps on what to do is enough or should i add a little more or hopefully it is clear enough on what to do.

 

Gene nz

 

 

 

On 4/13/2018 5:41 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:

Dear Gene,

 

thank you for your great job. This is very important for the whole community. I have forwarded your links to the german community and in the translations group.

 

I hope I will find some time during next week to provide you some suggestions.

 

I propose to split the related sources in “development sources” and “user specific sources”. In this way we could add links to github and bitbucket as well.

 

Best

Adriani

 

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New Zealand
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. April 2018 10:10
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

 

Hi Adriani

There is a under construction page that went up tonight for nvda screen reader related resources off the main website at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
When more resources get added there may be links off the nvda related web pages on my website that point to that page.

I have a rough idea of categories for the resources.
These can be changed  or added to.

Gene nz
 

On 3/25/2018 5:02 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi Adriani

 

Yep I am looking at doing a page for nvda screen reader related resources  which i will add it into which will be a separate web page. In that page I will break it down into say audio resources, video resources maybe nvda blogs? about using nvda? Not quite sure of other sections if i do and would be more a point to page but not jeffs one.

Even though he had a good site.

 

I am guessing we do  have links to other nvda resources like on you tube etc but not in the one place.

 

Gene nz

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 3/5/2018 9:22 PM, Adriani Botez wrote:

Gene,

 

thanks for including that. I wonder if Joseph’s new tutorials set “welcome to NVDA 2018” can be included as well?

 

Best

Adriani

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New Zealand
Gesendet: Montag, 5. März 2018 03:21
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

 

Hi Adriani

 

I was not sure if it worked on XP as when the directions went up i think at that time it had been tested on 7,8 and 10.

 

Would the directions from 10 also work on XP? to get into it as i used to do it the other way that was posted.

 

I have not any XP machines here now to test with.

 

The directions you gave are on the nvda audio tutorials page under trouble shooting.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 3/4/2018 11:45 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:

Hello,

 

we had this conversation some months ago, here is a gegistry file which activates your sound driver in safe mode. It has been tested with XP as well and it works perfectly. NVDA can be used in safe mode after activating this file:

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ebkqst6n393i6jk/Activate_Sound_in_Win10_Safe_Mode.zip?dl=1

 

 

Best

Adriani

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New Zealand
Gesendet: Samstag, 3. März 2018 19:47
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

 

Hi

 

the old way to get into safe mode in windows 10 can be found here at https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-boot-to-safe-mode-with-command-prompt-2624541

 

You will need a pair of eyes to do this plus you might not even have sound.

 

So am guessing you will need to burrow some eyes and give them directions to fix the problem.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 3/4/2018 2:58 AM, zahra wrote:

hi gene thanks so much for your great work of you and other members.

how can i access safe mode in windows xp with nvda?

does it have solution for users of xp?

thanks so much every one and God bless you all!

On 3/3/18, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

HI guys

Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

RECENTLY UPDATED:

Added a link to all NVDA related pages for the new NVDA promotional video.

Added a link to the addons page for the NVDA Add-on developers guide which

has been updated for 2018.1

Added a review of the Samsung UA50MU6100SXNZ television to the podcasts and

product reviews page

http://accessibilitycentral.net/podcasts%20and%20product%20reviews.html

NEW:

Added a page called Skype Trusted Microsoft Store App (off the NVDA

tutorials for other programs page)

http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

as well as a page called Using Windows Media Player with NVDA.

Gene NZ

On 12/13/2017 12:59 PM, David Moore wrote:

Hi Gene NZ!

Thanks so much for what you do for us!

God bless!

David Moore

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From: Gene New Zealand<mailto:hurrikennyandopo@...>

Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 3:01 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

Hi guys

Pages recently updated

Recently updated: Added links to NVDA Guides on all NVDA related pages

New: Added a tutorial How to access safe mode in Windows and exit it with

the NVDA screen reader by Hareth  and co to the NVDA audio tutorials page

under the troubleshooting section

http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html Added a

tutorial (by Gene Asner) called Navigating ribbons in WordPad (to the NVDA

tutorials learning the basics page)

http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20learning%20the%20basics.html

Added a tutorial called Using the Ribbon interface in Windows via the

keyboard (by Brian Vogel) to the NVDA tutorials for Windows 10 page.

http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20windows%2010.html

Gene NZ

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I won't discuss how you add sound to an already existing recording.  But deleting audio is the same in principle as in a word processor document, though the way you do it is different.  The concept is identical.

 

In a word processor document, if you want to delete a phrase in a sentence, you select the phrase and press delete.

 

In an audio editing program, if you want  to delete a block of audio, say ten seconds where you talked and a fire engine siren was recorded, you would mark the start of the bloc, move to the end, mark the end, and issue the delete command.  The bloc of audio is gone.  The start and end markers select the material between them and you delete it.  Just as in a word processor, material must be selected for you to do something with it, delete it, change its volume, whatever you want to do with it.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

I have a presentation that demonstrates removing audio in recording programs but if you get good instruction or good instructional materiaal, that will be described if you are working with a recording program that allows editing and the material teaches that program in any depth.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 4:43 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Regarding mixing music or other audio with voice and having the volume of the other audio automatically go down when you talk, as far as I know Audacity doesn't have that feature.  that would be something to ask about on the Audacity list since I don't follow the program carefully these days.  It may be a factor in deciding what program to use.  I don't know how wwell this feature works. 

 

If it moves to volume down too quickly when you talk and then moves it up too quickly when you stop, it could be annoying.  If it moves the volume up too soon after you stop talking, it might raise and lower the volume between sentences where you want it to remain at a constant lower volume while you speak a number of sentences.   I've never heard this feature.  It might be useful to have someone send a demonstration.  If someone is thinking of taking time to learn something about using a demo that one might buy, finding out if this feature is worth having might be a good idea before putting time into learning the program as opposed to a free alternative.

 

As far as using a USB microphone is concerned, I don't know if either Gold Wave or Audacity has the ability to record the sound from one sound card with the sound from another sound card simultaneously.  You may find it much better to mix using a mixer and use a standard microphone that plugs into the mixer.  I expect that these days, getting a reasonable microphone wouldn't be expensive.  I don't use USB microphones because I see no advantage in them and I avoid the complications of working with two sound cards. 

 

However, these are my opinions and those who know a lot more about the subject may say I'm wrong about the points I'm making.  But I want to keep things simple and do things efficiently.  If I added music to podcasts, which I haven't done, I would seriously consider using a mixer if I did more than the most simple and small amount of using music.  Having just a music introduction and end which I talk over is something I wouldn't buy a mixer for.  Having music interspersed throughout a podcast and do ing so on a regular basis is something I would seriously consider having a mixer for.  I would think it would save a lot of time in preparation.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 4:23 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

You don't need Goldwave.  You may want to try or use it or you may prefer it but need means require.  In an earlier message, you, yourself said, that you use Gold Wave But Audacity is a good choice as well.  I don't know if one is easier or better to use.  Goldwave costs about 40 U.S. dollars, Audacity is free.  Gold Wave has a demo so you can try it. 

 

Gene

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Yes Goldwave is what you need. its easy as editing a word document and
althou it needs to be registered, I've never regretted it.  See legality on
music though, you can get copyright free stuff often on  web sites
specialising in it.
 Brian

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From: "Claire Potter" <claire.potter99@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA


> Hi Gene, you have totally confused me now, I just want to be able to
> remove bits of audio which do not need to be there, and add in the
> jingles and music at the appropriate times.
>
> Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website:
> http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
>
> On 10/07/2018 16:58, Gene wrote:
>> What is the next level? Are you editing an mp3 file and then saving
>> it again as an MP3 file? Every time you edit a file and then reencode
>> it while saving, you lose audio quality. Either do all your editing
>> in a lossless format such as wave, then save the final file as MP3, or
>> edit an existing mp3 file using a program like MP3 Direct Cut, which
>> edits existing MP3 files and saves the edited file without reencoding
>> it. If you edit and save an MP3 file reencoding it every time, after
>> three or four saves, you will start to hear significant audio
>> degredation.
>> There may be other things you should know as the discussion continues
>> about how to decide if you want to edit in a lossless format and save
>> the entire file as an MP3 as the last save or use a program like MP3
>> Direct Cut.
>> For now, basics such as just what you want to do would be the place to
>> begin.
>> If you edit an MP3 file using a program like MP3 Direct Cut, you may
>> introduce artifacts, depending on how the recording program recorded
>> it. You can use a recording program that eliminates this problem.
>> I'm saying that here so you know you have that option.
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Claire Potter <mailto:claire.potter99@...>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 10, 2018 10:45 AM
>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version
>> of NVDA
>>
>> Hi Joseph, I have used NVDA for about 6 months now, I would not by any
>> means call myself an expert yet but I am quite confident in using it,
>> so it is just Studio and editing programs that I am new to. My friend
>> did say that I can’t edit in Studio itself, so that is maybe where
>> something like Audacity or even Total recorder would come in. I do
>> have Total recorder and I really like using that for simple editing
>> tasks, so for example if I have a file that is 30 minutes long but I
>> wanted to select a section to remove it is really simple to do that,
>> that is about as far as I currently go with editing, but I would like
>> to take it to the next level! Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out
>> my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
>>
>> On 10/07/2018 16:37, Joseph Lee wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> > Yes, you can use StationPlaylist Studio for pre-recording shows (a
>> bit involved), but you may need a different program for editing the
>> file afterwards.
>> > Just so we can help you better: are you a new NVDA user, a new
>> Studio user, or both? If both, then I suggest learning NVDA first so
>> you can get an idea as to how to use the screen reader before using
>> Studio. Once you become comfortable with NVDA, then I suggest learning
>> how to use Studio so you can use its features efficiently.
>> > There is as NVDA add-on (similar to scripts for other screen
>> readers) that makes improvements to how NVDA interacts with Studio,
>> but that's getting way ahead of the broadcast.
>> > Cheers,
>> > Joseph
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Claire
>> Potter
>> > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 8:30 AM
>> > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> > Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version
>> of NVDA
>> >
>> > Hi Joseph, it was a friend who used to use it a little while ago, I
>> can’t remember what exactly she said but it was something like if it
>> was used to produce pre-recorded shows those are then saved as MP3
>> files which I can edit as if they were podcasts, like I said though, I
>> am quite new to the whole world of audio editing and production etc so
>> I can’t quite remember what she said.
>> >
>> > Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website:
>> http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
>> >
>> > On 10/07/2018 16:12, Joseph Lee wrote:
>> >> Hi Claire,
>> >> Welcome to NVDA list.
>> >> Sorry to say the following as a reply to your first post, but do
>> you have a source who told you StationPlaylist Studio can be used for
>> creating podcasts? Studio is mostly meant for producing pre-recorded
>> or live shows on air, not necessarily used for podcast production (for
>> that, there are programs such as Audacity, GoldWave, and many others).
>> >> I'll ask some folks I know who uses StationPlaylist Studio
>> regarding this possibility.
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Joseph
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Claire
>> >> Potter
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:31 AM
>> >> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> >> Subject: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA
>> >>
>> >> Hi, I am new to this list and I hope someone can help me. I would like
>> >> to learn how to use Station playlist as I am a complete novice and I
>> >> would like to use Station playlist studio to record my own podcasts, I
>> >> am however unable to find a clear tutorial which explains how to do
>> >> this. I am using the latest version of NVDA. Can you help? -- Warm
>> >> regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website:
>> >> http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
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