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Re: Messenger Site and NVDA

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Agreed. I have finally given up on Google back up and sync. The google drive worked reliably and well, but the new system is quirky crashes on start up and sends emails saying an unknown device been on your account, and then every time you log in the log in screen is inaccessible forcing you in through a browser then it completely loses the log in in the desktop app and so after a bout a week of this stupidity. I deleted it completely and now only have dropbox. The thing is though, I would like a cloud system that could work well on a couple of old xp boxes but seemingly this is now no longer possible.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <@smeveriss>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Messenger Site and NVDA


Hmmm you should be able to change the password.

To be honest, when ms/ google says you have been hacked, just like windows flagging things, I don't know if it has or not.

I had the same issue with google sync, an update and reload had to be done.

The program crashed in the middle of signup.

Google then said I was hacked and needed to change my password.

It will also do that if you go to another location then signin from your home location, sometimes it puts up a security message sometimes not.

Either you don't get it or respond fast enough and boom.

A friend had this with an ms account.

Her system lost power in the middle of a feature windows update.

Nothing worked, eventually she had to reformat her pc, and windows mobile phone, change her passwords then create another account for it to work.

Some of that was her isp doing strange things but everything got out of sync, and then things got confused.

I had the same situation with a business system I was working on, the encripted drive crashed.

Some backups were made but not everything.

The system was reinstalled on a new box, but again, security was just crazy.

Eventually with some professional recovery technitions the drives were recovered, the accounts were updated, but it envolved a lot of mucking about.

I am more inclined to think if something says your account is hacked that your account is not in fact compromised its just windows or your previder telling you you are doing something outside their strict guidelines.




On 5/23/2018 8:42 AM, Abbie Taylor wrote:
Because my messenger account has been hacked, I'm trying to either delete the account or change the password, but I can't seem to do this on the messenger site so far with NVDA. https://www.messenger.comFor some reason, it's not reading the settings dialog box. I've tried some of the mouse commands but to no avail. Does anyone have any ideas?



Re: Messenger Site and NVDA

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I wonder if Webbie might be able to do it? Not been there for a while.
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Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Messenger Site and NVDA


****Hello,
First, sorry for writing in this mail instead of write in the main topic, I lost it.
Secondly and now talking about what's really interesting :)
Try to maximize the Messenger's window with alt+spacebar and X, if I'm not mistaken.
After you did it, go to the top of the page then navigate as on any other page.
Hope it can help you.
Cheers,
Marcio
Em 22/05/2018 18:18, Abbie Taylor escreveu:
No, I don't have Jaws. I do have System Access so may try it with that later. Thanks.


On 5/22/2018 2:43 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Maybe you can try it with Jaws if you have it.




On 5/22/2018 1:42 PM, Abbie Taylor wrote:
Because my messenger account has been hacked, I'm trying to either delete the account or change the password, but I can't seem to do this on the messenger site so far with NVDA. https://www.messenger.comFor some reason, it's not reading the settings dialog box. I've tried some of the mouse commands but to no avail. Does anyone have any ideas?




Re: Messenger Site and NVDA

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You could try the Jaws demo, but I have a feeling from memory that its not going to work either due to the site design.
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Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Messenger Site and NVDA


No, I don't have Jaws. I do have System Access so may try it with that later. Thanks.


On 5/22/2018 2:43 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Maybe you can try it with Jaws if you have it.




On 5/22/2018 1:42 PM, Abbie Taylor wrote:
Because my messenger account has been hacked, I'm trying to either delete the account or change the password, but I can't seem to do this on the messenger site so far with NVDA. https://www.messenger.comFor some reason, it's not reading the settings dialog box. I've tried some of the mouse commands but to no avail. Does anyone have any ideas?


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Re: firefox issue

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One of the common issues with firefox is that nvda seems to suggest that a button has focus, ie or to restart after an update for example. This is not the case. it needs you to use the shortcut to press it. I think somebody in the firefox dev team or maybe at nvda who writes the app module might like to apply their mind to this as it also affects alerts that say, we detect that this page is asking to be redirected or something similar and alt a makes this work, but its by no means always clear its not actually a button in focus.
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From: "Meet modi" <meetmodi2359@...>
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Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] firefox issue


Yes when remember password press Ault + R

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 8:39 AM, Richard Wells <richwels@...> wrote:

I believe it is ALT+R.

On 5/22/2018 8:23 PM, Abbie Taylor wrote:

There is a short-cut key to have Firefox remember a password, but I've
forgotten what it is at the moment because I now just escape out of those
dialog boxes. Thanks.

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On May 22, 2018 6:59 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> <gsasner@...>
wrote:

I'll tell you how you may try to do this which may help you in this and in
other similar situations where messages come up. also, there may be a
short cut command to move to the message, but I don't know it.

It doesn't remember it because you aren't telling it to in the menu or
activating the button. When you hear the message, move to the address bar
with control l. the message is probably somewhere around it. Try tabbing
a few times and see if you find something relevant. If you don't, return
to the address bar again with control l and shift tab a few times to see if
you find anything relevant.

However, before you do any of that at all, I'm not sure having browsers
remember passwords is a good idea. Others with more technical knowledge
will, I hope, comment, but I've seen one or more computer advisors
recommend against it as a security risk.

Gene
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*Subject:* Re: [nvda] firefox issue

I think it's Firefox. Nowadays, whenever I try to have it remember a
particular password, the dialog asking me if I want Firefox to do this
keeps coming up, and I keep pressing the button to save the password, and
it comes up again. This happens for a while, and then when I just escape
out of that dialog, I lose speech altogether and have to re-start Firefox
before it will work properly. By the way, it never does remember the
password.

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On May 22, 2018 2:24 PM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:

Hello
can any one tell me if firefox freezes when you go to add a bookmark?
when ever I try to do that I loose speech for about 5 seconds
am trying to find out if it is me or if it is firefox
thanks
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Re: firefox issue

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Which version of Firefox, which version of nvda.
I have to say, I had some problems with this on Windows 7 with any version of Firefox after 56. I now am using Waterfox as the default browser and its much more stable. I am not saying it was nvda that was doing it, I suspect it has something to do with Firefox not actually reporting what its done very quickly to access software as alt tabbing away seems to show nvda still OK.
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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 9:24 PM
Subject: [nvda] firefox issue


Hello
can any one tell me if firefox freezes when you go to add a bookmark?
when ever I try to do that I loose speech for about 5 seconds
am trying to find out if it is me or if it is firefox
thanks
Hank
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Re: How do I run a portable copy of NVDA from a USB flash drive

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That very much depends how you copied it. I think most people prefer not to have nvda in the root of the ram drive. I would also add here that in Windows 10, the usability of a portable version of nvda is much reduced over using it in Windows 7, mainly due to many parts of windows only being given access to for an installed bit of software. Thus you might consider with the permission of the machines owner installing nvda on the machine but not making it auto start, so at least the next time you need to use it it has the best access it can.
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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 11:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How do I run a portable copy of NVDA from a USB flash drive


Just insert the USB Flash Drive, determine the drive letter Windows
gives it, press WIN-KEY+R, type DriveLetter:\NVDA and it will launch.


On 5/22/2018 2:57 PM, Don wrote:

I have successfully created a portable copy of NVDA on my flash drive.
How do I run it on another lap top computer?


Re: About Linux

Antony Stone
 

You do not have to use the command line on Linux unless you want to.

There are many distributions which provide a graphical environment from the
default installation, and although you can open a command shell to type things
if you want to, you can do this in MS Windows too - it doesn't mean that you
have to.

There are Linux distributions with accessible installers providing speech
output, and there is a screenreader (Orca) for working with both Braille and
speech for graphical applications.

You cannot install NVDA or other MS Windows applications under Linux, but you
can't install them under Mac OSX either. That doesn't mean a Mac is worse
than Windows - it just means they're different from each other.

It doesn't mean you can't install Firefox - you just have to install the Linux
or OSX version instead of the Windows version. It does mean you cannot use
NVDA, but you can use another screenreader instead (Orca for Linux, Voiceover
for Mac OSX).

Linux is different. Mac OSX is different. Some people prefer them; it's a
personal choice.

Please don't mislead people by suggesting that they are worse just because you
can't install the same applications as you can on Windows. You might just as
well say that Windows is worse than Linux because it doesn't support all the
Linux applications that are available.


Antony.

On Wednesday 23 May 2018 at 10:44:01, zahra wrote:

hello.
i wished to use linux,
but if it was exactly the same with windows!
i realy hate terminal,
i even cant use cmd on windows and prefer wizard and gui interface
that i can have my selection, rather than memorizing hundreds of
codes!
if i could install nvda and other softwares which i use on windows, in
linux, and i could do installation of softwares and other usual tasks
without terminal and command line,
certainly i said goodbye to windows and migrate to linux.
but unfortunately,
i believe that linux is not user friendly and becomes not, at least
for many years!

On 5/23/18, Brandon Cross <bcross3286@...> wrote:
I'm sorry, but if that's the impression you have, you are much mistaken.
This is not only advisable, it can be dangerous. Stop and think about it
for a second. Why would they make an operating system where you had to
type one command before any other command you type? Doesn't make sense,
does it? Also, remember that you are authenticating each time you do
this, even though it may be set up so that you don't need to use your
password each and every time, which ever command you use with sudo gets
elevated to root status. A little reading will tell you all you need to
know. I don't like it when people spread information that could harm
other people's machines or harm them in some way, accidentally is one
thing, but if you just say oh its ok, you're being intentionally
ignorant. Then, what happens if someone inexperienced comes along and
sees this and tries it, maybe nothing, maybe they type sudo rm -rf *
from the root directory, then bye bye machine.
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Re: Cloning drives

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I agree, but of course the original query was for a windows user. I'm not convinced anyone would want to run and install the Linux system and its screenreader merely to clone a drive.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ervin, Glenn" <glenn.ervin@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Cloning drives


The talking WinPE has programs for this, but I usually do this in Linux, since I think it does a better job.
Linux has a command-line tool built in for this, called DD.
Linux command-line is much like DOS.
If the drive you want to copy is called:
/dev/sda
And the drive you want to copy it to is
/dev/sdc
You would type:
Dd /dev/sda /dev/sdc
If you want to clone a partition into a single file, the command would be:
Dd /dev/sda dev/sdb/myfile.iso
You would not clone a drive onto itself, so you would have to direct it to another drive that is why you might direct it to something like /dev/sdb in that example.
But that is just an example of using the command-line in Linux, it works much like DOS.
But I use the GUI for things like web browsing, and eMail and text editing and manipulating files.
Glenn

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To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Cloning drives

It is but the ones I've used drop into a kind of temporary dos version so
you hear nothing, even errors if you run it.
Some do allow the cloning script to be written in windows and then it runs
in its own Os as neither drive can have a running windows on it during the
process as there is a swap file and other files locked and hence they will
not be faithfully copied unless you exit windows.
I've not tried it lately but it would be nice to know what works for those
with no sight at all.
Brian

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Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Cloning drives


Would acronis work for that? I'm actually not sure if that's available on
PC. Good luck.


On May 22, 2018 6:10:39 AM "juan gonzalez" <jgonzalezh614@...>
wrote:

Good day all!
I am looking for software that works with NVDA to clone a hard disk to a
smaller SSD drive. Free would be preferred but if there isn't any than
any
works.


Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [nvda] About Linux

Simone Dal Maso
 

Hello,
using linux without command line is quite a nonsense, and perhaps a bit stupid.
If you want a really friendly operative system with gui, you have 2 choices: Windows, or MacOs.
NVDA *never* will run on linux.
Or perhaps with an emulator called Wine it can run, but it is quite unuseful since there are no windows operative system to read.
Linux has its screen reader that is Orca, but is not on my opinion robust like NVDA.

Il 23/05/2018 10:44, zahra ha scritto:
hello.
i wished to use linux,
but if it was exactly the same with windows!
i realy hate terminal,
i even cant use cmd on windows and prefer wizard and gui interface
that i can have my selection, rather than memorizing hundreds of
codes!
if i could install nvda and other softwares which i use on windows, in linux,
and i could do installation of softwares and other usual tasks without
terminal and command line,
certainly i said goodbye to windows and migrate to linux.
but unfortunately,
i believe that linux is not user friendly and becomes not, at least
for many years!
On 5/23/18, Brandon Cross <bcross3286@...> wrote:
I'm sorry, but if that's the impression you have, you are much mistaken.
This is not only advisable, it can be dangerous. Stop and think about it
for a second. Why would they make an operating system where you had to type
one command before any other command you type? Doesn't make sense, does it?
Also, remember that you are authenticating each time you do this, even
though it may be set up so that you don't need to use your password each
and every time, which ever command you use with sudo gets elevated to root
status. A little reading will tell you all you need to know. I don't like
it when people spread information that could harm other people's machines
or harm them in some way, accidentally is one thing, but if you just say oh
its ok, you're being intentionally ignorant. Then, what happens if someone
inexperienced comes along and sees this and tries it, maybe nothing, maybe
they type sudo rm -rf * from the root directory, then bye bye machine.


Re: What will be with Espeak NG?

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If you, like myself use Windows 7, then espeak is still the default. I think its only a change of preferences at the start if windows 10 is in as the Microsoft voices are supposedly better. I have to say this is debatable depending on what you want to use them for.

I hope that Espeak NG will continue to be built in as for me at least quick and dirty digital voices are much better than nice sounding ones that do not work at speed very well for my ears at any rate.

I would also suggest if its English uk people want then get the add on speech player in Espeak and use it with the old variants as the dodgy for, newsletter and other words have not yet been sorted in the version of ng in nvda it seems. I guess you can download the sapi 5 version of Espeak but I do not like that system as it enables all that is bad about Microsoft's abbreviation expanding system, which to my mind is far too USA centred.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Marco Oros" <marco.oros93@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 8:57 AM
Subject: [nvda] What will be with Espeak NG?


I have heard, that default synthesizer will be Windows Onecore and not Espeak NG. I have a question.
NVDA team will stop implement new versions of Espeak? Or, why this thing were happened?
Thank You.
Marco Oros


Re: What will be with Espeak NG?

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Marco,

Actually we don't develop eSpeak to begin with.  We use eSpeak NG which has a GitHub repository and is open source, just like NVDA: https://github.com/espeak-ng/espeak-ng

We are still including eSpeak NG with NVDA.  We are just changing the default synthesizer when you install it on Windows 10, to the Windows OneCore voices.  From talking with users, and importantly, with people who don't use NVDA (and why), we found that a lot of people "Like NVDA, but the voice is very robotic".  As much as we would encourage people to explore the settings and find a setup that works for them, the truth is, people, particularly when testing something new, will first try the default setup, and if something is too jarring (as eSpeak NG is for some users), they may stop using it and not come back, even though if they were using Windows 10, there are more human sounding voices available on their system.

So, for NVDA 2018.2, we are making Windows OneCore voice the default on Windows 10, but we will still bundle eSpeak with NVDA, and we know many advanced users will switch back to it, and that is fine.  Note if you already have NVDA installed and upgrade to NVDA 2018.2, it won't change what you have setup.

I hope that answers your question, but if you have any more questions, please don't hesitate to ask!

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 5:57 PM, Marco Oros <marco.oros93@...> wrote:
I have heard, that default synthesizer will be Windows Onecore and not Espeak NG. I have a question.
NVDA team will stop implement new versions of Espeak? Or, why this thing were happened?
Thank You.
Marco Oros






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Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [nvda] About Linux

 

hello.
i wished to use linux,
but if it was exactly the same with windows!
i realy hate terminal,
i even cant use cmd on windows and prefer wizard and gui interface
that i can have my selection, rather than memorizing hundreds of
codes!
if i could install nvda and other softwares which i use on windows, in linux,
and i could do installation of softwares and other usual tasks without
terminal and command line,
certainly i said goodbye to windows and migrate to linux.
but unfortunately,
i believe that linux is not user friendly and becomes not, at least
for many years!

On 5/23/18, Brandon Cross <bcross3286@...> wrote:
I'm sorry, but if that's the impression you have, you are much mistaken.
This is not only advisable, it can be dangerous. Stop and think about it
for a second. Why would they make an operating system where you had to type
one command before any other command you type? Doesn't make sense, does it?
Also, remember that you are authenticating each time you do this, even
though it may be set up so that you don't need to use your password each
and every time, which ever command you use with sudo gets elevated to root
status. A little reading will tell you all you need to know. I don't like
it when people spread information that could harm other people's machines
or harm them in some way, accidentally is one thing, but if you just say oh
its ok, you're being intentionally ignorant. Then, what happens if someone
inexperienced comes along and sees this and tries it, maybe nothing, maybe
they type sudo rm -rf * from the root directory, then bye bye machine.
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with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
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Re: looking for add on for firefox60 that does what navigational sound and sound on click does for chrome

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No I was castigated when I asked, being told not to worry about sound. I'm now using Waterfox instead which is still based on the old Mozilla code
It is 64 bit only but so far so good and navigational sounds will work on it.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 8:14 AM
Subject: [nvda] looking for add on for firefox60 that does what navigational sound and sound on click does for chrome


Hi, is there a add on for Firefox 60 that will accomplish what these two add
ons that are in the subject line do? Why Firefox 60 don't support add ons
that worked in Firefox older versions I have no idea


What will be with Espeak NG?

Marco Oros
 

I have heard, that default synthesizer will be Windows Onecore and not Espeak NG. I have a question.
NVDA team will stop implement new versions of Espeak? Or, why this thing were happened?
Thank You.
Marco Oros


looking for add on for firefox60 that does what navigational sound and sound on click does for chrome

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

Hi, is there a add on for Firefox 60 that will accomplish what these two add ons that are in the subject line do?  Why Firefox 60 don’t support add ons that worked in Firefox older versions I have no idea


Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [nvda] About Linux

Brandon Cross <bcross3286@...>
 

I'm sorry, but if that's the impression you have, you are much mistaken. This is not only advisable, it can be dangerous. Stop and think about it for a second. Why would they make an operating system where you had to type one command before any other command you type? Doesn't make sense, does it? Also, remember that you are authenticating each time you do this, even though it may be set up so that you don't need to use your password each and every time, which ever command you use with sudo gets elevated to root status. A little reading will tell you all you need to know. I don't like it when people spread information that could harm other people's machines or harm them in some way, accidentally is one thing, but if you just say oh its ok, you're being intentionally ignorant. Then, what happens if someone inexperienced comes along and sees this and tries it, maybe nothing, maybe they type sudo rm -rf * from the root directory, then bye bye machine.


Re: firefox issue

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I don't have my passwpords saved.




On 5/22/2018 6:23 PM, Abbie Taylor wrote:

There is a short-cut key to have Firefox remember a password, but I've forgotten what it is at the moment because I now just escape out of those dialog boxes. Thanks.

Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
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Order my new memoir at http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com/memoir.htm

On May 22, 2018 6:59 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I'll tell you how you may try to do this which may help you in this and in other similar situations where messages come up.  also, there may be a short cut command to move to the message, but I don't know it.
 
It doesn't remember it because you aren't telling it to in the menu or activating the button.  When you hear the message, move to the address bar with control l.  the message is probably somewhere around it.  Try tabbing a few times and see if you find something relevant.  If you don't, return to the address bar again with control l and shift tab a few times to see if you find anything relevant. 
 
However, before you do any of that at all, I'm not sure having browsers remember passwords is a good idea.  Others with more technical knowledge will, I hope, comment, but I've seen one or more computer advisors recommend against it as a security risk.
 
Gene
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Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] firefox issue

I think it's Firefox. Nowadays, whenever I try to have it remember a particular password, the dialog asking me if I want Firefox to do this keeps coming up, and I keep pressing the button to save the password, and it comes up again. This happens for a while, and then when I just escape out of that dialog, I lose speech altogether and have to re-start Firefox before it will work properly. By the way, it never does remember the password.

Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
abbietaylor945@...
Order my new memoir at http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com/memoir.htm

On May 22, 2018 2:24 PM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
>
> Hello
> can any one tell me if firefox freezes when you go to add a bookmark?
> when ever I  try to do that I loose speech for about 5 seconds
> am trying to find out if it is me or if it is firefox
> thanks
> Hank
> --
> check out my song on youtube
> https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y
>
>
>

>





Re: firefox issue

Lino Morales
 

Bonk. You are incorrect. It is alt plus S I’ll send you all a parting gift later.

 

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From: Meet modi
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 12:02 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] firefox issue

 

Yes when remember password press Ault + R

 

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 8:39 AM, Richard Wells <richwels@...> wrote:

I believe it is ALT+R.

 

On 5/22/2018 8:23 PM, Abbie Taylor wrote:

There is a short-cut key to have Firefox remember a password, but I've forgotten what it is at the moment because I now just escape out of those dialog boxes. Thanks.

Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
abbietaylor945@...
Order my new memoir at http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com/memoir.htm

On May 22, 2018 6:59 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

I'll tell you how you may try to do this which may help you in this and in other similar situations where messages come up.  also, there may be a short cut command to move to the message, but I don't know it.

 

It doesn't remember it because you aren't telling it to in the menu or activating the button.  When you hear the message, move to the address bar with control l.  the message is probably somewhere around it.  Try tabbing a few times and see if you find something relevant.  If you don't, return to the address bar again with control l and shift tab a few times to see if you find anything relevant. 

 

However, before you do any of that at all, I'm not sure having browsers remember passwords is a good idea.  Others with more technical knowledge will, I hope, comment, but I've seen one or more computer advisors recommend against it as a security risk.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 7:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] firefox issue

 

I think it's Firefox. Nowadays, whenever I try to have it remember a particular password, the dialog asking me if I want Firefox to do this keeps coming up, and I keep pressing the button to save the password, and it comes up again. This happens for a while, and then when I just escape out of that dialog, I lose speech altogether and have to re-start Firefox before it will work properly. By the way, it never does remember the password.

Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
abbietaylor945@...
Order my new memoir at http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com/memoir.htm

On May 22, 2018 2:24 PM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
>
> Hello
> can any one tell me if firefox freezes when you go to add a bookmark?
> when ever I  try to do that I loose speech for about 5 seconds
> am trying to find out if it is me or if it is firefox
> thanks
> Hank
> --
> check out my song on youtube
> https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y
>
>
>

>


 

 

 


Re: firefox issue

Meet modi
 

Yes when remember password press Ault + R

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 8:39 AM, Richard Wells <richwels@...> wrote:

I believe it is ALT+R.


On 5/22/2018 8:23 PM, Abbie Taylor wrote:

There is a short-cut key to have Firefox remember a password, but I've forgotten what it is at the moment because I now just escape out of those dialog boxes. Thanks.

Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
abbietaylor945@...
Order my new memoir at http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com/memoir.htm

On May 22, 2018 6:59 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I'll tell you how you may try to do this which may help you in this and in other similar situations where messages come up.  also, there may be a short cut command to move to the message, but I don't know it.
 
It doesn't remember it because you aren't telling it to in the menu or activating the button.  When you hear the message, move to the address bar with control l.  the message is probably somewhere around it.  Try tabbing a few times and see if you find something relevant.  If you don't, return to the address bar again with control l and shift tab a few times to see if you find anything relevant. 
 
However, before you do any of that at all, I'm not sure having browsers remember passwords is a good idea.  Others with more technical knowledge will, I hope, comment, but I've seen one or more computer advisors recommend against it as a security risk.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] firefox issue

I think it's Firefox. Nowadays, whenever I try to have it remember a particular password, the dialog asking me if I want Firefox to do this keeps coming up, and I keep pressing the button to save the password, and it comes up again. This happens for a while, and then when I just escape out of that dialog, I lose speech altogether and have to re-start Firefox before it will work properly. By the way, it never does remember the password.

Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
abbietaylor945@...
Order my new memoir at http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com/memoir.htm

On May 22, 2018 2:24 PM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
>
> Hello
> can any one tell me if firefox freezes when you go to add a bookmark?
> when ever I  try to do that I loose speech for about 5 seconds
> am trying to find out if it is me or if it is firefox
> thanks
> Hank
> --
> check out my song on youtube
> https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y
>
>
>

>






Re: firefox issue

Richard Wells
 

I believe it is ALT+R.


On 5/22/2018 8:23 PM, Abbie Taylor wrote:

There is a short-cut key to have Firefox remember a password, but I've forgotten what it is at the moment because I now just escape out of those dialog boxes. Thanks.

Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
abbietaylor945@...
Order my new memoir at http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com/memoir.htm

On May 22, 2018 6:59 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I'll tell you how you may try to do this which may help you in this and in other similar situations where messages come up.  also, there may be a short cut command to move to the message, but I don't know it.
 
It doesn't remember it because you aren't telling it to in the menu or activating the button.  When you hear the message, move to the address bar with control l.  the message is probably somewhere around it.  Try tabbing a few times and see if you find something relevant.  If you don't, return to the address bar again with control l and shift tab a few times to see if you find anything relevant. 
 
However, before you do any of that at all, I'm not sure having browsers remember passwords is a good idea.  Others with more technical knowledge will, I hope, comment, but I've seen one or more computer advisors recommend against it as a security risk.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] firefox issue

I think it's Firefox. Nowadays, whenever I try to have it remember a particular password, the dialog asking me if I want Firefox to do this keeps coming up, and I keep pressing the button to save the password, and it comes up again. This happens for a while, and then when I just escape out of that dialog, I lose speech altogether and have to re-start Firefox before it will work properly. By the way, it never does remember the password.

Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
abbietaylor945@...
Order my new memoir at http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com/memoir.htm

On May 22, 2018 2:24 PM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
>
> Hello
> can any one tell me if firefox freezes when you go to add a bookmark?
> when ever I  try to do that I loose speech for about 5 seconds
> am trying to find out if it is me or if it is firefox
> thanks
> Hank
> --
> check out my song on youtube
> https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y
>
>
>

>