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Re: NVDA and Win 10 1809

Robert Mendoza
 

Hi, I got the same result from here. Kinda strange to hearing those on the background.


Robert Mendoza

On 10/3/2018 8:36 AM, Don H wrote:
NVDA seems to be running great with Win 10 1809.  There is one strange thing that NVDA is voicing when entering the settings app. NVDA says
C equals Microsoft Windows O equals Microsoft Corporation L equals readman  S equals washington and one more that I can't understand.s
Sighted help says there is nothing like this on the screen.
Not a game changer just a little annoying



Resource Monitor 18.10.1 #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

 

In a few minutes Resource Monitor 18.10.1 will hit the air. In addition to localization updates, this build will now recognize stable build of Windows Server 2019 (build 17763).

Cheers,

Joseph


Index of /tts

Michael Munn
 

http://www.grossgang.com/tts/
Hi all, This is the proper link that I mentioned before.
Please tell me if the link is safe or not.
This is where I got the Eloquence TTS from.
Thanks I really appreciate it.
Best Regards
michael Munn


Re: Go all, another question

 

site is giving me a 404

On 10/2/2018 5:33 PM, Michael Munn wrote:
Hi This is Michael Munn. I have a question about the Grossgan's website.
In Grossgan.com there are some very good speech sinthesizers that a user can use with their NVDA Screen reader. I want to know is that a safe sight to download Those oices?
I don't want to break the rule.
Pbease respond if you can.
Best Regards
Michael Munn

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NVDA and Win 10 1809

Don H
 

NVDA seems to be running great with Win 10 1809.  There is one strange thing that NVDA is voicing when entering the settings app. NVDA says
C equals Microsoft Windows O equals Microsoft Corporation L equals readman  S equals washington and one more that I can't understand.s
Sighted help says there is nothing like this on the screen.
Not a game changer just a little annoying


Go all, another question

Michael Munn
 

Hi This is Michael Munn. I have a question about the Grossgan's website.
In Grossgan.com there are some very good speech sinthesizers that a user can use with their NVDA Screen reader. I want to know is that a safe sight to download Those oices?
I don't want to break the rule.
Pbease respond if you can.
Best Regards
Michael Munn


Captchas Revisited

E.T.
 

I am not wanting to create a new flood on this one. (smiles) I could not keep up with the last thread on this topic so I may have missed any discussion about the object captchas (pictures) in particular.

Is there a way to solve this type of captchas? Usually I can get around captchas by contacting someone by email. But in one case, I must solve the captcha in order to contact support.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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in the past. What if it were true?


Re: Anyone use Visual Studio 2017?

Dave Grossoehme
 

Good Afternoon:  It has been sometime since I've done anything with VB.  So I'm not sure what version of the program or Jaws, but there was a toolbox to work with Visual Basic.  In which case I don't know if it it was updated to today's program.  However, it might be something you might wish to look into.

Dave

On 9/20/2018 7:35 AM, Dave wrote:
Hello,

I am teaching myself Python, and C Sharp, and have just downloaded and installed the Free Microsoft Visual Studio 2017.

NVDA and Jaws 2018 will read some things in Visual Studio, and was wondering if any here use Visual Studio to do your programing?

I am either using it wrong, or not enough is getting read by either Screen Reader. So am asking if any here use this program to do your programing.


Thanks again, for any reply,

Dave






Re: How to use the new Web Console in Firefox Quantum to read Object properties?

 

Hello,
The video has NVDA talking what is there.
Thanks,


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Many of the developers are not sighted, so you may wait a while for anyone
to view it. I strongly suspect Firefox though. as you rightly point out, it
all used to work before.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonkeithbiggs@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2018 9:49 AM
Subject: [nvda] How to use the new Web Console in Firefox Quantum to read
Object properties?


> Hello,
> Before Firefox Quantum, I could easily read anything written to the
> console. Now though, I can't read properties of objects. I am just
> presented with a line that says "tree view".
> Here is a video of me trying to read the properties:
> https://youtu.be/2_YUL2WHFuE
>
> What is the way to read this information? Is this a bug? If so, with who?
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>
>
>
>
>





Re: NVDA and Windows 7

Andy
 

i'm running that combo with no issues.
 
Andy
 

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Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2018 12:30 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Windows 7

Hi,

 

Are there any known problems running NVDA 2018.3.2 on Windows 7 on a desktop PC?

 

I have heard of one case that is having difficulty and I am about to assist that person. It would help to know if there are any issues.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Re: Adobe reader

Mike Sedmak
 

You didn't say what method you were trying to use to change pages. I
have found that control+page-down/page-up is required to change pages,
not just pageup/pagedown by themselves.

Thanks,
Mike

On 10/2/18, farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm using latest windows 10 and latest adobe reader dc. If I select read
only currently visible page, I can read pdf file but cant change page. Same
with for large document read only currently visible page. If i select read
entire document I cant open pdf file. How to fix it?




Adobe reader

farhan israk
 

I'm using latest windows 10 and latest adobe reader dc. If I select read only currently visible page, I can read pdf file but cant change page. Same with for large document read only currently visible page. If i select read entire document I cant open pdf file. How to fix it?


Re: adnormal reaction

 

Msaa never had all the issues uia has now.

On 10/3/2018 4:56 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Even then, there are times when UIA may get involved in this problem, holding up NVDA for some reason. NV Access tried one solution, but had to back out due to that solution causing crashes in Windows 7. A subsequent solution is now available in alpha snapshots.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Subject: Re: [nvda] adnormal reaction

If this was the case Joseph, the number of things I have open in 7 and lots of buffering files should slow it down, but its not. Obviously there are occasional glitches where a core maxes out if you go too mad, but in 7, I've yet to see the slow down. About the only time I've noticed anything like it is when typing in a file name for a file over the top of an old one, but that is it really.
Windows 7 was always more secure and faster than the ten I used on similar hardware, which is another reason I've still not got a permanent 10 system here.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2018 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] adnormal reaction


Hi,

Short answer: hopefully this should be mitigated somewhat very soon.

Long explanation: this sort of slow down is caused by an app that raises so
many events to a point where UI Automation subsystem doesn’t have time to
catch up, slowing down NVDA in the process. This is partly NVDA’s fault, and
this has been addressed to some degree in NVDA 2018.4 for Windows 7, 8.x,
and Windows 10 releases prior to Version 1809; Microsoft addressed this in
Version 1809 and NVDA 2018.3 includes mitigations for Windows 10 Version
1809.

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc
Wright godfearer
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 3:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] adnormal reaction



i am using winrar. I have noticed something similar when I am saving a file
in Goldwave. things seem to slow down in file explorer.I cannot do anything
until the task is finished.this includes copying a file from one folder to
another.

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Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 4:30 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] adnormal reaction



I guess you could use a 3rd party extracting program like 7zip or WinRAR



From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer <mailto:godfearer@comcast.net>
Sent: 02 October 2018 09:56
To: NVDA <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] adnormal reaction



when i extract a zipped file I can do nothing else in file explorer until
the zipped file is fully unpacked. Is this normal? this only happens in a
file explorer window.

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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials on Windows 10Ver1703 (64-bit) build 15063.296

 

To be honest, I actually agree from a user point of view.

99.9% of my software is actually old software.

Bar my ocr software, my web brouser, email program, ccleaner, 7zip, and a few games most of the software I have bar those like goldwave and cdbxp which I update and my torrent sync, most of that came from xp days.

Out of that about 10 programs are true 64 bit and mostly its because I can not that I must.

Ok with the exception with waterfox maybe.

now with windows 7, its stable for the most part.

I have not found a reason from a user point of view especially since all I do mostly is gaming, audio and a little web testing work to really think of moving to win10.

One thing I really dislike from win10 is when switching networks.

In 7 I can connect to a list of networks but only have 1 up at a time.

To connect to one on 10 I log off one, then log to another one.

Thats fine, however if I then link back to my network I used especially on a home one I need to make sure it wil automatically connect on startup by hitting the right box in the right place.

I also don't care about bits of the copy dialog and file explorer.

If I have more than 1 or 2 windows open, maybe notepad and explorer for example even if its minimised, all my files do not show though I know if I fiddle around they will work just fine.

There is also the fact issues I have in win10 don't happen on 7.

The only 2 reasons I would never go back to xp are 1,  64 bit programs, xp64 drivers support sucked and 2.  windows update intergration.

I also don't care for the miriad places one needs to go to get extras for win10 things, store, updates settings optional features the list goes on.

The only reason other than the fact I use a lot more 64 bit now is that a lot of games, and a lot of codecs and things like java have moved on so I  could never go back for general things.

On the other hand, I am tempted to downgrade to xp if only for especially the older games, all my dos stuff, maybe, and a few other things.

I would never serf with it online as such but I would keep it updated.

I also have a few things that are not 64 bit compatible.

On 10/3/2018 4:29 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Well I disagree most strongly. Its making far too much work for system admins, and potentially breaking working software as well. I think we as a breed also should have access to longer support times as we have the excuse of finding newer third party software is inaccessible whereas older ones are, All that will happen if Window carries on this way is home users will block all updates to achieve a stable working system leaving themselves open to malware as with xp, though I has to be said that although having windows xp machines here, I've yet to encounter any virus.


Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials on Windows 10Ver1703 (64-bit) build 15063.296


On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 10:27 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:


To Brian V: I bet Noah’s school uses Windows 10 Education, which will
receive support until October 2019. I’ll make that clear on Win10 Forum
once Version 1809 era kicks in.
Yes, I'm aware that both Education and Enterprise (and even S, I think) have end-of-life dates that are longer than those for the same versions of Home and Pro.

That being said, and also realizing that institutions of all sorts are notoriously loath to update, they need to be coming into the Windows as a service era as well. It would be one thing to be on 1709 at this juncture, but 1703 is jaw-dropping.

Whether anyone likes it or not the WAAS model is here to stay, and trying to maintain glacially slow update protocols is ridiculous. I worked for many years with several different state agencies and the resistance to updating was both stupid and appalling. Organizations were still running on Windows XP years, plural, into the Windows 7 era. I'm sure the same is true for Windows 7 in the Windows 10 era. But if you, as an institution, decide to go with Windows 10 you had better realize that you simply cannot hang on for nearly as long as you used to get away with. The goal should carefully controlled and post-bleeding-edge updates preferably no more than one version cycle behind the most current (and preferably with a small, in-house test bed that goes to the next version almost at the same time as "the rest of the world" so that any issues specific to the venue can be worked out on a small scale first).

--

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NVDA not reading slides in Presentation mode "slide show complete"

Joshua Crary <JCrary@...>
 

Hello

 

I am running the latest NVDA and PPT 2016.  The files are not in protected mode.  In edit view, I can read the slides. However, in presentation mode (after pressing F5), and all NVDA reads out loud is “slide show complete”.  I hit space bar twice, and it exits the slide show.

 

Any thoughts on what the issue is?  I have not had this issue before with NVDA until the last 3 months or so.  Before then, it has always worked well with PPT.

 

 

 

Joshh Crary

Director of Student Accessibility Services

Roxbury Community College

Roxbury, MA 02120

857.701.1410

jcrary@...

 


question beta testing

Afik Suffir <afik.sofir@...>
 

 

How can I do beta test to NVDA, and how can I report bugs?

 


Re: adnormal reaction

 

Hi,
Even then, there are times when UIA may get involved in this problem, holding up NVDA for some reason. NV Access tried one solution, but had to back out due to that solution causing crashes in Windows 7. A subsequent solution is now available in alpha snapshots.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 8:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] adnormal reaction

If this was the case Joseph, the number of things I have open in 7 and lots of buffering files should slow it down, but its not. Obviously there are occasional glitches where a core maxes out if you go too mad, but in 7, I've yet to see the slow down. About the only time I've noticed anything like it is when typing in a file name for a file over the top of an old one, but that is it really.
Windows 7 was always more secure and faster than the ten I used on similar hardware, which is another reason I've still not got a permanent 10 system here.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2018 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] adnormal reaction


Hi,

Short answer: hopefully this should be mitigated somewhat very soon.

Long explanation: this sort of slow down is caused by an app that raises so
many events to a point where UI Automation subsystem doesn’t have time to
catch up, slowing down NVDA in the process. This is partly NVDA’s fault, and
this has been addressed to some degree in NVDA 2018.4 for Windows 7, 8.x,
and Windows 10 releases prior to Version 1809; Microsoft addressed this in
Version 1809 and NVDA 2018.3 includes mitigations for Windows 10 Version
1809.

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc
Wright godfearer
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 3:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] adnormal reaction



i am using winrar. I have noticed something similar when I am saving a file
in Goldwave. things seem to slow down in file explorer.I cannot do anything
until the task is finished.this includes copying a file from one folder to
another.

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To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 4:30 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] adnormal reaction



I guess you could use a 3rd party extracting program like 7zip or WinRAR



From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer <mailto:godfearer@comcast.net>
Sent: 02 October 2018 09:56
To: NVDA <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] adnormal reaction



when i extract a zipped file I can do nothing else in file explorer until
the zipped file is fully unpacked. Is this normal? this only happens in a
file explorer window.

***
Something to think about, Since God has forgiven it, who are you to keep
picking it back up!


Re: adnormal reaction

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

If this was the case Joseph, the number of things I have open in 7 and lots of buffering files should slow it down, but its not. Obviously there are occasional glitches where a core maxes out if you go too mad, but in 7, I've yet to see the slow down. About the only time I've noticed anything like it is when typing in a file name for a file over the top of an old one, but that is it really.
Windows 7 was always more secure and faster than the ten I used on similar hardware, which is another reason I've still not got a permanent 10 system here.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2018 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] adnormal reaction


Hi,

Short answer: hopefully this should be mitigated somewhat very soon.

Long explanation: this sort of slow down is caused by an app that raises so many events to a point where UI Automation subsystem doesn’t have time to catch up, slowing down NVDA in the process. This is partly NVDA’s fault, and this has been addressed to some degree in NVDA 2018.4 for Windows 7, 8.x, and Windows 10 releases prior to Version 1809; Microsoft addressed this in Version 1809 and NVDA 2018.3 includes mitigations for Windows 10 Version 1809.

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 3:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] adnormal reaction



i am using winrar. I have noticed something similar when I am saving a file in Goldwave. things seem to slow down in file explorer.I cannot do anything until the task is finished.this includes copying a file from one folder to another.

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To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 4:30 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] adnormal reaction



I guess you could use a 3rd party extracting program like 7zip or WinRAR



From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer <mailto:godfearer@comcast.net>
Sent: 02 October 2018 09:56
To: NVDA <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] adnormal reaction



when i extract a zipped file I can do nothing else in file explorer until the zipped file is fully unpacked. Is this normal? this only happens in a file explorer window.

***
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Re: adnormal reaction

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In that case maybe we need to know more about the hardware of the machine and whether its processor is being throttled back to save power as on some laptops.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Doc Wright godfearer" <godfearer@comcast.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2018 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] adnormal reaction


i am using winrar. I have noticed something similar when I am saving a file in Goldwave. things seem to slow down in file explorer.I cannot do anything until the task is finished.this includes copying a file from one folder to another.
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris via Groups.Io
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 4:30 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] adnormal reaction


I guess you could use a 3rd party extracting program like 7zip or WinRAR



From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: 02 October 2018 09:56
To: NVDA
Subject: [nvda] adnormal reaction



when i extract a zipped file I can do nothing else in file explorer until the zipped file is fully unpacked. Is this normal? this only happens in a file explorer window.

***
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Re: How to use the new Web Console in Firefox Quantum to read Object properties?

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Many of the developers are not sighted, so you may wait a while for anyone to view it. I strongly suspect Firefox though. as you rightly point out, it all used to work before.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2018 9:49 AM
Subject: [nvda] How to use the new Web Console in Firefox Quantum to read Object properties?


Hello,
Before Firefox Quantum, I could easily read anything written to the
console. Now though, I can't read properties of objects. I am just
presented with a line that says "tree view".
Here is a video of me trying to read the properties:
https://youtu.be/2_YUL2WHFuE

What is the way to read this information? Is this a bug? If so, with who?
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>