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Re: Important notice about upcoming Windows 10 App Essentials 18.06/18.05.3: provisions to support NVDA 2018.2 RC

 

Ok Joseph thanks for the explanation.
Nikos

On Thu, 7 Jun 2018 at 09:03, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

Yes, it is the correct behavior. This is because the only thing configurable is add-on update facility with an update check button, which is out of place in a multi-category settings (for both aesthetic and technical reasons).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nikos Demetriou via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 11:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Important notice about upcoming Windows 10 App Essentials 18.06/18.05.3: provisions to support NVDA 2018.2 RC

 

Hi.

I am running 18.06 with the latest nvda master snapshot.

I am trying to make sure if things work as expected.

I had the impression that from now on we would find the addon settings, in the main settings dialogue of nvda.

But still windows 10 app essentials appear as a separate item in the preference menu.

Is this the correct behaviour?

Thanks

Nikos

 

On Wed, 6 Jun 2018 at 19:13, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

Snapshots are development builds released from time to time to let users test things here and there.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Darren Harris via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 9:11 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Important notice about upcoming Windows 10 App Essentials 18.06/18.05.3: provisions to support NVDA 2018.2 RC

 

Hi,

 

Thanks for your message. Consider me a newb for a moment, what is meant by snapshot and what are they for?

 

Many thanks.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: 06 June 2018 17:07
To: nvda-addons@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Important notice about upcoming Windows 10 App Essentials 18.06/18.05.3: provisions to support NVDA 2018.2 RC

 

Hi all,

 

Windows 10 App Essentials 18.05.3 and 18.06 are out. Make sure you go over a notice I posted a few hours ago regarding which version to use. Later today, a corresponding pilot development snapshot will hit the air.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: joseph.lee22590@... <joseph.lee22590@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 12:29 AM
To: 'nvda-addons@groups.io' <nvda-addons@groups.io>
Subject: Important notice about upcoming Windows 10 App Essentials 18.06/18.05.3: provisions to support NVDA 2018.2 RC

 

Hi everyone,

 

In a few hours I’ll release Windows 10 App Essentials 18.06 and 18.05.3. Due to vast differences in some code sections, both will be released at the same time, targeting different NVDA versions:

 

  • 18.05.3: NVDA 2018.1.1 and earlier.
  • 18.06: NVDA 2018.2 RC and later (including stable version).

 

Please follow the below procedure from start to finish:

 

  1. Windows 10 App Essentials 18.05.3 will hit the air first. Please use add-on update check facility to check for this version.
  2. Shortly afterwards (in a matter of minutes), version 18.06 will hit the air. If you happen to be using 18.05.3 and find that version 18.06 is offered: say “yes” if you are using NVDA 2018.2 RC or snapshot builds; say “no” if you need to keep 2018.1.1 or earlier around until 2018.2 hits the air.
  3. If you accidentally install 18.06 on a computer running NVDA 2018.1.1, or install 18.05.3 on systems with NVDA 2018.2, don’t worry – procedures are in place to help you upgrade/downgrade to appropriate release. I’ll provide direct links for those who need them.
  4. Once NVDA 2018.2 stable hits the air, add-on 18.06 will be offered to everyone.

 

The above procedure does not apply if you are using development snapshots of this add-on (both regular and pilot variants). However, due to code differences between regular and pilot snapshots, regular development snapshots will be paused for a while. Once NVDA 2018.2 hits the air, development snapshot variants will merge back into a single variant – regular builds until a new NVDA snapshot calls for separating the variants again.

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Important notice about upcoming Windows 10 App Essentials 18.06/18.05.3: provisions to support NVDA 2018.2 RC

 

Hi,

Yes, it is the correct behavior. This is because the only thing configurable is add-on update facility with an update check button, which is out of place in a multi-category settings (for both aesthetic and technical reasons).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nikos Demetriou via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 11:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Important notice about upcoming Windows 10 App Essentials 18.06/18.05.3: provisions to support NVDA 2018.2 RC

 

Hi.

I am running 18.06 with the latest nvda master snapshot.

I am trying to make sure if things work as expected.

I had the impression that from now on we would find the addon settings, in the main settings dialogue of nvda.

But still windows 10 app essentials appear as a separate item in the preference menu.

Is this the correct behaviour?

Thanks

Nikos

 

On Wed, 6 Jun 2018 at 19:13, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

Snapshots are development builds released from time to time to let users test things here and there.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Darren Harris via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 9:11 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Important notice about upcoming Windows 10 App Essentials 18.06/18.05.3: provisions to support NVDA 2018.2 RC

 

Hi,

 

Thanks for your message. Consider me a newb for a moment, what is meant by snapshot and what are they for?

 

Many thanks.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: 06 June 2018 17:07
To: nvda-addons@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Important notice about upcoming Windows 10 App Essentials 18.06/18.05.3: provisions to support NVDA 2018.2 RC

 

Hi all,

 

Windows 10 App Essentials 18.05.3 and 18.06 are out. Make sure you go over a notice I posted a few hours ago regarding which version to use. Later today, a corresponding pilot development snapshot will hit the air.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: joseph.lee22590@... <joseph.lee22590@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 12:29 AM
To: 'nvda-addons@groups.io' <nvda-addons@groups.io>
Subject: Important notice about upcoming Windows 10 App Essentials 18.06/18.05.3: provisions to support NVDA 2018.2 RC

 

Hi everyone,

 

In a few hours I’ll release Windows 10 App Essentials 18.06 and 18.05.3. Due to vast differences in some code sections, both will be released at the same time, targeting different NVDA versions:

 

  • 18.05.3: NVDA 2018.1.1 and earlier.
  • 18.06: NVDA 2018.2 RC and later (including stable version).

 

Please follow the below procedure from start to finish:

 

  1. Windows 10 App Essentials 18.05.3 will hit the air first. Please use add-on update check facility to check for this version.
  2. Shortly afterwards (in a matter of minutes), version 18.06 will hit the air. If you happen to be using 18.05.3 and find that version 18.06 is offered: say “yes” if you are using NVDA 2018.2 RC or snapshot builds; say “no” if you need to keep 2018.1.1 or earlier around until 2018.2 hits the air.
  3. If you accidentally install 18.06 on a computer running NVDA 2018.1.1, or install 18.05.3 on systems with NVDA 2018.2, don’t worry – procedures are in place to help you upgrade/downgrade to appropriate release. I’ll provide direct links for those who need them.
  4. Once NVDA 2018.2 stable hits the air, add-on 18.06 will be offered to everyone.

 

The above procedure does not apply if you are using development snapshots of this add-on (both regular and pilot variants). However, due to code differences between regular and pilot snapshots, regular development snapshots will be paused for a while. Once NVDA 2018.2 hits the air, development snapshot variants will merge back into a single variant – regular builds until a new NVDA snapshot calls for separating the variants again.

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Important notice about upcoming Windows 10 App Essentials 18.06/18.05.3: provisions to support NVDA 2018.2 RC

 

Hi.
I am running 18.06 with the latest nvda master snapshot.
I am trying to make sure if things work as expected.
I had the impression that from now on we would find the addon settings, in the main settings dialogue of nvda.
But still windows 10 app essentials appear as a separate item in the preference menu.
Is this the correct behaviour?
Thanks
Nikos

On Wed, 6 Jun 2018 at 19:13, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

Snapshots are development builds released from time to time to let users test things here and there.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Darren Harris via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 9:11 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Important notice about upcoming Windows 10 App Essentials 18.06/18.05.3: provisions to support NVDA 2018.2 RC

 

Hi,

 

Thanks for your message. Consider me a newb for a moment, what is meant by snapshot and what are they for?

 

Many thanks.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: 06 June 2018 17:07
To: nvda-addons@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Important notice about upcoming Windows 10 App Essentials 18.06/18.05.3: provisions to support NVDA 2018.2 RC

 

Hi all,

 

Windows 10 App Essentials 18.05.3 and 18.06 are out. Make sure you go over a notice I posted a few hours ago regarding which version to use. Later today, a corresponding pilot development snapshot will hit the air.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: joseph.lee22590@... <joseph.lee22590@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 12:29 AM
To: 'nvda-addons@groups.io' <nvda-addons@groups.io>
Subject: Important notice about upcoming Windows 10 App Essentials 18.06/18.05.3: provisions to support NVDA 2018.2 RC

 

Hi everyone,

 

In a few hours I’ll release Windows 10 App Essentials 18.06 and 18.05.3. Due to vast differences in some code sections, both will be released at the same time, targeting different NVDA versions:

 

  • 18.05.3: NVDA 2018.1.1 and earlier.
  • 18.06: NVDA 2018.2 RC and later (including stable version).

 

Please follow the below procedure from start to finish:

 

  1. Windows 10 App Essentials 18.05.3 will hit the air first. Please use add-on update check facility to check for this version.
  2. Shortly afterwards (in a matter of minutes), version 18.06 will hit the air. If you happen to be using 18.05.3 and find that version 18.06 is offered: say “yes” if you are using NVDA 2018.2 RC or snapshot builds; say “no” if you need to keep 2018.1.1 or earlier around until 2018.2 hits the air.
  3. If you accidentally install 18.06 on a computer running NVDA 2018.1.1, or install 18.05.3 on systems with NVDA 2018.2, don’t worry – procedures are in place to help you upgrade/downgrade to appropriate release. I’ll provide direct links for those who need them.
  4. Once NVDA 2018.2 stable hits the air, add-on 18.06 will be offered to everyone.

 

The above procedure does not apply if you are using development snapshots of this add-on (both regular and pilot variants). However, due to code differences between regular and pilot snapshots, regular development snapshots will be paused for a while. Once NVDA 2018.2 hits the air, development snapshot variants will merge back into a single variant – regular builds until a new NVDA snapshot calls for separating the variants again.

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: nvda freezes when doings ping test in the comands prompt

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Thanks, that did the trick...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Mittwoch, 6. Juni 2018 22:48
To: nvda list list <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda freezes when doings ping test in the comands prompt

Can you turn off keyboard echo and see if that will work , I know that was
the fix for me last year.

On Jun 6, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Ralf Kefferpuetz
<ralf.kefferpuetz@...> wrote:

For me it spells most of the ping results, but is never stops, it just
drives me crazy, lol

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of brian
Sent: Mittwoch, 6. Juni 2018 22:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] nvda freezes when doings ping test in the comands
prompt

somthing that I have noticed is that if I ping a web site in the comand
prompt it will read the numbers very slowly then I will not have any nvda at
all not even control alt n will always restart my nvda. Somtimes it will but
other times it will not. It occures every time I try to do a ping test on
any web site it causes nvda to stop working. I will have to do a hard shut
down and restart my pc to get my nvda back.

Brian Sackrider








Re: transfor q using file zilla with nvda?

Gene
 

I forgot to give the link:
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] transfor q using file zilla with nvda?

See this page.  It doesn't list the old versions as supporting recent versions of Windows but I don't think that means anything, unless, perhaps the versions are really old, and I still don't know if it matters.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: The Wolf
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] transfor q using file zilla with nvda?

is there a way you could send me the older version?

is there betters one to use that is blind friendly

ftp clients that is
thanks
Hank

On 6/6/2018 5:39 PM, Gene wrote:
It appears to me that the status line doesn't reflect progress properly.  I don't recall what it doesn't do, at least in my version, but I stopped using it shortly after I tried because the information didn't match that in the other places where download information can be seen.
 
I'm using an older version and that may not be true in newer versions. 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Mohamed
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] transfor q using file zilla with nvda?

Actually, you can partially view it by reading the FileZilla status bar
with NVDA+end (desktop) or NVDA+shift+end (laptop).


On 6/5/2018 4:04 PM, Roger Stewart wrote:
> I know of no way to do this.  Maybe an add on could be made with a hot
> key to announce this information. However, NVDA will announce when all
> transfers are complete.
>
> Roger
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 6/4/2018 11:14 PM, The Wolf wrote:
>> Hello how do I find out how much I got left of a download with nvda
>> and file zilla?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Hank
>>
>>
>
>
>
>




-- 
check out my song on youtube
https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y


Re: transfor q using file zilla with nvda?

Gene
 

See this page.  It doesn't list the old versions as supporting recent versions of Windows but I don't think that means anything, unless, perhaps the versions are really old, and I still don't know if it matters.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: The Wolf
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] transfor q using file zilla with nvda?

is there a way you could send me the older version?

is there betters one to use that is blind friendly

ftp clients that is
thanks
Hank

On 6/6/2018 5:39 PM, Gene wrote:
It appears to me that the status line doesn't reflect progress properly.  I don't recall what it doesn't do, at least in my version, but I stopped using it shortly after I tried because the information didn't match that in the other places where download information can be seen.
 
I'm using an older version and that may not be true in newer versions. 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Mohamed
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] transfor q using file zilla with nvda?

Actually, you can partially view it by reading the FileZilla status bar
with NVDA+end (desktop) or NVDA+shift+end (laptop).


On 6/5/2018 4:04 PM, Roger Stewart wrote:
> I know of no way to do this.  Maybe an add on could be made with a hot
> key to announce this information. However, NVDA will announce when all
> transfers are complete.
>
> Roger
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 6/4/2018 11:14 PM, The Wolf wrote:
>> Hello how do I find out how much I got left of a download with nvda
>> and file zilla?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Hank
>>
>>
>
>
>
>




-- 
check out my song on youtube
https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y


Re: NVDA and Java Access Bridge

David Tanner
 

Mike,

 

I believe I have seen comments that it does.

 

HTH

David Tanner

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Fratkin, Mike via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 8:02 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Java Access Bridge

 

Does NVDA work with the Java Access Bridge in Windows 10?  Thanks.

 

Mike


Re: transfor q using file zilla with nvda?

 

is there a way you could send me the older version?

is there betters one to use that is blind friendly

ftp clients that is
thanks
Hank

On 6/6/2018 5:39 PM, Gene wrote:
It appears to me that the status line doesn't reflect progress properly.  I don't recall what it doesn't do, at least in my version, but I stopped using it shortly after I tried because the information didn't match that in the other places where download information can be seen.
 
I'm using an older version and that may not be true in newer versions. 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Mohamed
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] transfor q using file zilla with nvda?

Actually, you can partially view it by reading the FileZilla status bar
with NVDA+end (desktop) or NVDA+shift+end (laptop).


On 6/5/2018 4:04 PM, Roger Stewart wrote:
> I know of no way to do this.  Maybe an add on could be made with a hot
> key to announce this information. However, NVDA will announce when all
> transfers are complete.
>
> Roger
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 6/4/2018 11:14 PM, The Wolf wrote:
>> Hello how do I find out how much I got left of a download with nvda
>> and file zilla?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Hank
>>
>>
>
>
>
>




-- 
check out my song on youtube
https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y


Re: Addint a Desktop Shortcut for Programs or Apps under Windows 10

 

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 05:23 pm, Rui Fontes wrote:
And, by the way, all commands given are Windows commands, and not specific of any screen reader!
I wasn't certain about CTRL+SPACE to deselect a selected item with focus, and that's all it does.  All that were selected that do not have focus when CTRL+SPACE is hit remain selected.

CTRL+SHIFT+SPACE deselects everything in a multi-select group except the item that has focus.  So if you think you might have a multi-select situation at hand the safe way to know that everything is deselected is to hit CTRL+SPACE followed by CTRL+SHIFT+SPACE or vice versa.

I learn something new if not every day, quite frequently on these groups.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

          ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

 

 


Re: Addint a Desktop Shortcut for Programs or Apps under Windows 10

Gene
 

I expect to see such commands documented when moving threw menus and submenus.  It should not be necessary for a skilled user, who learns a lot about Windows and programs by looking through menus and dialogs to have to look at a commands sheet when it is expected that accelerator or shortcut commands will be shown in menus. 
 
Also, material that I consider to be among the best produced doesn't mention this command.  I doubt that more than perhaps ten or twenty percent of blind users know this command.
 
Gene
----- Oreiginal Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Addint a Desktop Shortcut for Programs or Apps under Windows 10

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 05:32 pm, Gene wrote:
I'm not surprised. 
Well, I still am.   CTRL+SHIFT+N has been on Microsoft issued keyboard shortcuts lists for a very long time now.

If you go to the Keyboard Shortcuts in Windows webpage, as it exists today, it shows up whether you choose All Products, Windows 7, Windows 8.1, or Windows 10 from the dropdown for Product Version at the top of the page.

They've also been calling these keyboard shortcuts for as long as I can remember now, but I do recall the "accelerator command" terminology in the mists of memory.  I think that went out as of Windows XP, but can't be certain.  It may have been with the introduction of Windows 7.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

          ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

 

 


Re: Addint a Desktop Shortcut for Programs or Apps under Windows 10

 

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 05:32 pm, Gene wrote:
I'm not surprised. 
Well, I still am.   CTRL+SHIFT+N has been on Microsoft issued keyboard shortcuts lists for a very long time now.

If you go to the Keyboard Shortcuts in Windows webpage, as it exists today, it shows up whether you choose All Products, Windows 7, Windows 8.1, or Windows 10 from the dropdown for Product Version at the top of the page.

They've also been calling these keyboard shortcuts for as long as I can remember now, but I do recall the "accelerator command" terminology in the mists of memory.  I think that went out as of Windows XP, but can't be certain.  It may have been with the introduction of Windows 7.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

          ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

 

 


Re: Addint a Desktop Shortcut for Programs or Apps under Windows 10

 

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 03:10 pm, Chris Mullins wrote:

13. ARROW down to Create Shortcut, then press ENTER.

 

Should read ...

 

13. Press applications key or shift+f10, arrow down to Create Shortcut, then press ENTER.

You are indeed correct.  I didn't do very much clean up at all on the source material, and certainly didn't catch this, and it's important.

Thank You.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

          ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

 

 


Re: transfor q using file zilla with nvda?

Gene
 

It appears to me that the status line doesn't reflect progress properly.  I don't recall what it doesn't do, at least in my version, but I stopped using it shortly after I tried because the information didn't match that in the other places where download information can be seen.
 
I'm using an older version and that may not be true in newer versions. 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Mohamed
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] transfor q using file zilla with nvda?

Actually, you can partially view it by reading the FileZilla status bar
with NVDA+end (desktop) or NVDA+shift+end (laptop).


On 6/5/2018 4:04 PM, Roger Stewart wrote:
> I know of no way to do this.  Maybe an add on could be made with a hot
> key to announce this information. However, NVDA will announce when all
> transfers are complete.
>
> Roger
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 6/4/2018 11:14 PM, The Wolf wrote:
>> Hello how do I find out how much I got left of a download with nvda
>> and file zilla?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Hank
>>
>>
>
>
>
>




Re: Addint a Desktop Shortcut for Programs or Apps under Windows 10

Gene
 

I'm not surprised.  I've used Windows since about 1998 and I've done a good deal of learning using instructional materials.  I never saw that shortcut even in the very good material I used.  I heard about the command on an e-mail list a number of months ago for the first time. 
 
And the shortcut, or actually accellerator command, isn't announced when you move to the item in the file explorer menu.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Addint a Desktop Shortcut for Programs or Apps under Windows 10

There are extra steps required in Win10 for built in apps unlike anything in Win7, but otherwise it's the same.

CTRL+SHIFT+N for new folder is as old as Windows itself.

There are scads of keyboard shortcuts that any individual won't know about.  I must admit,  though,  that this one is so frequently useful for a keyboard driven user that I'm shocked you hadn't been acquainted with it ages ago.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

          ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

 

 


Re: Addint a Desktop Shortcut for Programs or Apps under Windows 10

Rui Fontes
 

And, by the way, all commands given are Windows commands, and not specific of any screen reader!

Rui Fontes


Às 23:10 de 06/06/2018, Chris Mullins escreveu:

Hi
There is an important bit missing in the instructions  for creating shortcuts...
13. ARROW down to Create Shortcut, then press ENTER.
Should read ...
13. Press applications key or shift+f10, arrow down to Create Shortcut, then press ENTER.
Cheers
Chris
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Rosemarie Chavarria
*Sent:* 6 June 2018 19:01
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Addint a Desktop Shortcut for Programs or Apps under Windows 10
Hi, Brian,
Wow, this is good to know! With all the computer training I've had, I wasn't taught this. Thanks so much for this info.
Rosemarie
On 6/6/2018 10:09 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
The following uses JAWS commands for a couple of things, but any
NVDA user should be able to "translate" to NVDA with relative ease.*/
//Creating a Desktop Shortcut for a Program/App Under Windows 10///*
             by Bill White
1. Go to your desktop and make sure nothing is selected. To do this:
press CONTROL plus SPACE, then JAWS (or other screen reader) should
say, “Not Selected.”  If you need to, hit CTRL+SPACE again.
2. Press Applications/Menu Key or SHIFT plus F10, and Arrow down to
the New Submenu, then press ENTER.
3. ARROW down to Shortcut then press ENTER.
4. When it asks you to type the location of the shortcut, type: %windir%\explorer.exe shell:Appsfolder
5. TAB to the Next button then press ENTER.
6. When it asks for a name for the shortcut, press the DELETE key
then type:  AppsFolder
7. TAB to the Finish button, then press ENTER.
8. Now, on your desktop, you will have a shortcut that reads: AppsFolder
9. If you press ENTER on this shortcut, a special Windows system
folder will open containing all of your apps.
10. Now, create any shortcut for an app as follows:
11. Press ENTER on the AppsFolder icon.
12. Use First-letter Navigation to find and select the app for which
you want the shortcut on your desktop.
13. ARROW down to Create Shortcut, then press ENTER.
14. When it tells you that a shortcut can’t be created here, and it
asks if you want a shortcut on the desktop, press ENTER on Yes.
15. That’s it. Now you will have a shortcut for your desired app on
the desktop, along with the AppsFolder shortcut, which you can use
later when you need to create another desktop shortcut.
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Re: Unable to read basic word document wit NVDA 2018.2RC2

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Jessica,

Can you please clarify exactly what is happening?  IE, does Microsoft Word open?  does it read anything about the file (the name in the Word titlebar for instance).  Is there an error, or is NVDA totally silent, and if so, does using ALT+TAB to move to a different program do anything?

Also, are you running an insider build of Office (or Windows?)  And which version of NVDA are you running?

Finally, while the answers to those questions may or may not give a clue, a copy of your NVDA log might help, particularly if you can restart NVDA with debug logging, then replicate the issue before sending me your log.

Oh, and if you have recently updated NVDA or Windows, please try restarting the computer first as sometimes odd things creep in in-between updating and restarting.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 3:29 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:
Well it seems to work in all the various permutations I've tried. One assumes new docs work so maybe there is something odd about the one you are opening?


Can you toggle browse and focus mode on it?
Brian

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Hi,
Word 2016, under office 365


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Which version of word do you use?

Brian

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Hi,
I’m trying to update my resume, and am having a serious issue.

NVDA will not read it.

What can I do?

I’m using NVDA 2018.2RC2

Thanks,
Jessica


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Re: Addint a Desktop Shortcut for Programs or Apps under Windows 10

Chris Mullins
 

Hi Brian

Agreed, but you can also add many of the commands listed in the ribbons to the QAT as well.  Press the applications key when located on a ribbon item and the first item in the context menu is add to Quick Access Toolbar.  Because the QAT is so configurable, I didn’t want users to think that alt+numrow 2 was a File Explorer shortcut, particularly as I didn’t see anyone mention the actual file explorer shortcut for new folder which is alt+h, n.    

 

Cheers

Chris

 

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Sent: 6 June 2018 22:44
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Addint a Desktop Shortcut for Programs or Apps under Windows 10

 

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 02:27 pm, Chris Mullins wrote:

The alt+numrow 2 is not a file explorer shortcut to create a new folder.  It’s a shortcut to the second item on the QAT (Quick Access Toolbar) and as this is user configurable, it could be anything.

You are definitely correct that ALT+number row 2 is for the second item in the QAT, but every instance of Windows 10 I've dealt with, as shipped, has only two items in the quick access toolbar for file explorer:  Properties (1), New Folder (2).

There are six functions one can check or uncheck to include on the Quick Access Toolbar:  Undo, Redo, Delete, Properties, New Folder, Rename in that order from top to bottom.  The order in which one checks the various items if all are unchecked determines which position number each will have, 1 through 6 [or whatever number you have checked] on the QAT visually and their invocation via ALT+number row 1 through 6.

But, by default, and unless the system has been customized, ALT+2 should be New Folder.
 
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Re: Addint a Desktop Shortcut for Programs or Apps under Windows 10

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

 

There is an important bit missing in the instructions  for creating shortcuts...

 

13. ARROW down to Create Shortcut, then press ENTER.

 

Should read ...

 

13. Press applications key or shift+f10, arrow down to Create Shortcut, then press ENTER.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: 6 June 2018 19:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Addint a Desktop Shortcut for Programs or Apps under Windows 10

 

Hi, Brian,

 

Wow, this is good to know! With all the computer training I've had, I wasn't taught this. Thanks so much for this info.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

On 6/6/2018 10:09 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

The following uses JAWS commands for a couple of things, but any NVDA user should be able to "translate" to NVDA with relative ease.


Creating a Desktop Shortcut for a Program/App Under Windows 10

             by Bill White

1. Go to your desktop and make sure nothing is selected. To do this: press CONTROL plus SPACE, then JAWS (or other screen reader) should say, “Not Selected.”  If you need to, hit CTRL+SPACE again.

2. Press Applications/Menu Key or SHIFT plus F10, and Arrow down to the New Submenu, then press ENTER.

3. ARROW down to Shortcut then press ENTER.

4. When it asks you to type the location of the shortcut, type:  %windir%\explorer.exe shell:Appsfolder

5. TAB to the Next button then press ENTER.

6. When it asks for a name for the shortcut, press the DELETE key then type:  AppsFolder

7. TAB to the Finish button, then press ENTER.

8. Now, on your desktop, you will have a shortcut that reads:  AppsFolder

9. If you press ENTER on this shortcut, a special Windows system folder will open containing all of your apps.

10. Now, create any shortcut for an app as follows:

11. Press ENTER on the AppsFolder icon.

12. Use First-letter Navigation to find and select the app for which you want the shortcut on your desktop.

13. ARROW down to Create Shortcut, then press ENTER.

14. When it tells you that a shortcut can’t be created here, and it asks if you want a shortcut on the desktop, press ENTER on Yes.

15. That’s it. Now you will have a shortcut for your desired app on the desktop, along with the AppsFolder shortcut, which you can use later when you need to create another desktop shortcut.

 

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Re: Path On Portable Copy

Kevin Cussick
 

this would be a good idea. a warning saying that this will extract all files to the root of the said drive. but I would rather it created a folder buy default called nvda.

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Yes but its the start of the process that is the problem. I think it could default to creating a folder on whatever drive called nvda. and there is nothing to stop you renaming the folder later if you like.
However to the uninitiated, the installer makes a folder in the program files areas but create the portable from it and its  got to be done manually. the least they could do after you select the drive is warn you that it will go into the root if you continue in my view.
Brian
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Hi
For as long as i have been using a portable version it has never made a directory called nvda. If the usb stick has no other files it will put all the files needed splattered on the stick as you found out.
I have always made a directory called nvda usually on the usb stick.
But lets say at the moment i have 3 copies of nvda.
the stable version makes it own directory.
The other 2 i made a directory called master snap shots and another directory called next snap shots of which i test them when those files for those snapshots have been put into them.
this way it is not confusing for me to tell which is which in the folders.
It would be a pane  if it done nvda for each directory on the c: drive it would either over write it or one would be called nvda 2 or some thing.
It is much tidier making a directory called nvda on a usb stick and then you can have other directories for other files and keep them tidy.
the new process in the up coming release for updating the portable is much nicer 2 basically when you go to update it from off the usb stick you are using it will download it to your usb stick then update over the top of it which it did not do before. it is in the next release coming out unless you have 2018.2 rc2 you can try it now.
Gene nz
On 6/6/2018 4:41 AM, Ervin, Glenn wrote:
Hi,
I just tried to make a portable copy of NVDA, after updating my local copy.
I gave it the right drive path, but I did not specify \NVDA
This made a mess in my drive and I hope I only deleted the NVDA files in order to re-do it.
I have made portable copies of NVDA many times before.
I thought that it automatically made the NVDA directory.
Did this change?
I would think that by default, it should create a folder called \NVDA.
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Re: Addint a Desktop Shortcut for Programs or Apps under Windows 10

 

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 02:27 pm, Chris Mullins wrote:
The alt+numrow 2 is not a file explorer shortcut to create a new folder.  It’s a shortcut to the second item on the QAT (Quick Access Toolbar) and as this is user configurable, it could be anything.
You are definitely correct that ALT+number row 2 is for the second item in the QAT, but every instance of Windows 10 I've dealt with, as shipped, has only two items in the quick access toolbar for file explorer:  Properties (1), New Folder (2).

There are six functions one can check or uncheck to include on the Quick Access Toolbar:  Undo, Redo, Delete, Properties, New Folder, Rename in that order from top to bottom.  The order in which one checks the various items if all are unchecked determines which position number each will have, 1 through 6 [or whatever number you have checked] on the QAT visually and their invocation via ALT+number row 1 through 6.

But, by default, and unless the system has been customized, ALT+2 should be New Folder.
 
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