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another puzzling seting - this time Winamp

Giles Turnbull
 

Hi all,

I have another puzzling program issue, this time with Winamp.

I'm sure I've experienced this before,but I can't for the life of me remember how I sorted it out!

It relates to the Winamp 5.666 edition. I use it on my home laptop, my tablet computer and this new Dell laptop that I've got for university work.

For some reason I cannot navigate the playlist with NVDA. I suspect there is a setting that relates to how tracks are displayed, but I can't spot it in the preferences. The playlist window is definitely active.

If I move into the playlist I simply cannot navigate up and down the list. All NVDA says is “List.” I have a good 30 mp3s in the playlist and, even if I start a new playlist and then enqueue a further set of mp3s, I remain unable to navigate the playlist.

I didn't bring the Winamp 5.666 installer with me, unfortunately.

I installed the NVDA extended Winamp addon last night but that doesn't seem to have changed anything.

Any suggestions very welcome.

Giles


Re: CAPTCHA Be Gone abandoned also?

Darren Harris
 

I’m glad it’s gone. Why should anybody have to pay to solve captures? It was nothing more than exploitation!


On 24 Sep 2018, at 16:07, Ervin, Glenn <glenn.ervin@...> wrote:

The only trouble with this solution is that I use a “headless” computer.

I could hook it up to a TV, but I would have to unplug some stuff and find an extra HDMI cable.

But I have used that app on other computers that I had a monitor connected to, when I was setting up the BIOS.

So for most folks, that is a good solution.

 

Glenn

It is a NUC PPYH, a small portable desktop, and I don’t normally have a monitor connected to it.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Desert Moon
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 6:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] CAPTCHA Be Gone abandoned also?

 

Hello All,

When I am faced with a CAPCHA challenge, I will make use of the Be My Eyes iPhone app. Just ask the volunteer to tall me what's on the screen. Safer than using an unknown add-on.
--
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Re: stopping DropBox from importing photos from removable media

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How odd. That was definitely an option before. Surely one can turn it off somewhere. I certainly do not get bothered. However one recent annoying thing is a message that opens behind the window I'm in when I try to delete from dropbox in the offline folder which after much alt tabbing asks if I want to delete from all registered devices. I'd love to make this default to off as it freezes the deletion of anything else till its entered on even though it has no button. It obviously is some kind of transparent alert that nvda has trouble seeing, only the ting noise alerts me.
However if you delete stuff via a batch file it fails to work grin.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Giles Turnbull" <giles.turnbull@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] stopping DropBox from importing photos from removable media


Hi Brian,

No, I can't find the checkbox that relates to not wanting DropBox to import media on either the app or in my account on the DropBox website.

Giles


Re: CAPTCHA Be Gone abandoned also?

Ervin, Glenn
 

The only trouble with this solution is that I use a “headless” computer.

I could hook it up to a TV, but I would have to unplug some stuff and find an extra HDMI cable.

But I have used that app on other computers that I had a monitor connected to, when I was setting up the BIOS.

So for most folks, that is a good solution.

 

Glenn

It is a NUC PPYH, a small portable desktop, and I don’t normally have a monitor connected to it.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Desert Moon
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 6:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] CAPTCHA Be Gone abandoned also?

 

Hello All,

When I am faced with a CAPCHA challenge, I will make use of the Be My Eyes iPhone app. Just ask the volunteer to tall me what's on the screen. Safer than using an unknown add-on.
--
Desert


Re: stopping DropBox from importing photos from removable media

Giles Turnbull
 

Hi Brian,

No, I can't find the checkbox that relates to not wanting DropBox to import media on either the app or in my account on the DropBox website.

Giles


Re: CAPTCHA Be Gone abandoned also?

Ervin, Glenn
 

Sounds like CAPTCHA Be Gone CAPTCHA Be Gone.
LOL, someone had to say it.

Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Damien Garwood
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 6:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] CAPTCHA Be Gone abandoned also?

Hi,
Again, unfortunately I have no firm evidence on this, but it does appear that CaptchaBeGone has also been abandoned. The following points lead me to this conclusion.
1. Out-of-date software (no support for Firefox above 57, no support for Edge etc).
2. Captchas never end up getting solved in the first place (though to be fair that could be caused by a number of different variable factors, including point 3 below).
3. Customers no longer seem to be billed (billing system comes up with
"500 internal server error" and has done so for a number of months now).
4. Last tweeted 18th September 2016.
5. No reply when contacted.
I won't go starting a rant about the developer involved, however let's just say that these signs come as no big surprise to me, hence the reason I never donated to the NVDA Remote crowdfunding campaign.
That having been said, CBG was a good service while it lasted, and NVDA Remote will still work with NVDA 2018.2 (I just have a portable copy lying around with that installed so that I can still use it when necessary).
Also let's not forget that the Firefox addon interface has been completely rewritten. One of the biggest reasons I'm still stuck on ESR
v52 is the fact that another addon I rely on doesn't work on versions later than 57, and the author has explicitly told me that it isn't physically possible to rewrite his addon with the new interface. So I guess this could also be a possibility with CBG. I just wish we'd been told, one way or the other.
Cheers,
Damien.

On 23/09/2018 12:09 PM, Patrick ZAJDA via Groups.Io wrote:
Hello,

Sorry for the off-topic but I contacted CAPTCHA Be Gone last week
without any answer.

It looks like this addon doesn't work with last FireFox version nor
with WaterFox, in fact same as Webvisum (which is free).
Is it like NVDARemote fore which we have no idea of its future?
Strange, it is another project from one of NVDARemote authors which is abandoned...

And to come back more to the list topic, what captcha solver can we
use with NVDA and WaterFox or last FireFox now the two best solutions
are gone out to date?

Thanks and best regards,

Patrick




Re: CAPTCHA Be Gone abandoned also?

 

On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 02:55 AM, Richard Bartholomew wrote:
Also, you are placing a lot of faith in someone who will probably be able to see your logon details as well as the captcha!
Well, for myself, as a volunteer for Be My Eyes, I know very well both what the formal rules are (which would forbid such unethical behavior) and the informal rules are (which would forbid such unethical behavior).

Also, as has been pointed out, passwords themselves are virtually never shown by default, and I can't imagine there's any blind individual who would frequently wish to turn on the show password feature where it is available.

It is one thing to be cautious and another to be paranoid.  There is no reason to believe that people volunteering to assist in this way are doing so to do you harm.
 
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Re: stopping DropBox from importing photos from removable media

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Can you open the dropbox preferences from the tray and see it on there? It used to be in there, but now my machine will not read the text in the preferences log in or share dialogues, I cannot say for sure.
I seem to recall though, that its off by default as it used to keep asking me with a pop up about whether I wanted to use photo sharing and back up. Odd as I have no photos to share or back up!


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Giles Turnbull" <giles.turnbull@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 9:49 AM
Subject: [nvda] stopping DropBox from importing photos from removable media


Hi all,

I've recently installed DropBox onto a new laptop. On my other devices I've obviously managed to turn off importing photos but on this new laptop I need to make the required change in my account preferences.

First of all I searched the net for instructions on doing this but it said I should look for a chekcbox by the import photos or import photos and videos ... obviously the checkbox should be checked to allow importing and unchecked to disable it. I could find no such checkbox using NVDA.

SO I asked in the DropBox community and was told essentially the same advice ... use the checkbox.

Is there a reason I'm not finding the checkboxes with NVDA 2018.3.1 using browse mode or object navigation?

Any advice on turning this setting off would be very welcome!

thanks,

Giles


stopping DropBox from importing photos from removable media

Giles Turnbull
 

Hi all,

I've recently installed DropBox onto a new laptop. On my other devices I've obviously managed to turn off importing photos but on this new laptop I need to make the required change in my account preferences.

First of all I searched the net for instructions on doing this but it said I should look for a chekcbox by the import photos or import photos and videos ... obviously the checkbox should be checked to allow importing and unchecked to disable it. I could find no such checkbox using NVDA.

SO I asked in the DropBox community and was told essentially the same advice ... use the checkbox.

Is there a reason I'm not finding the checkboxes with NVDA 2018.3.1 using browse mode or object navigation?

Any advice on turning this setting off would be very welcome!

thanks,

Giles


Re: NVDA remote

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This discussion seems to be flaring up a lot on here. It would save a lot of this if people in charge of add ons pointed people at Josephs patched version for now.
What one has to remember is that the original was written by a team, who collaborated under crowd funding to get the work done. Having done it, the team was broken up. Now we are trying to get some of that team to fix it to match new versions of nvda. Looking forward, this problem is only going to get worse as Python 3 looms larger.

What is done about add ons where the authors have moved on is a much bigger problem, which includes remote. That is what NV Access need to solve. Admittedly the add ons are outside of their realm of influence in the main, but the changes that cause them to fail are their responsibility so some effort by them needs to be made, in my view ahead of the next major change in NVDA or people will not be able to use new versions productively any more.
it is also unfair to rely on Josephs good offices in this as he has work to do and a life to live and people can easily burn out through trying to do the right thing without support.
I wish I could help but do not have the skills.
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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 4:55 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA remote


Absolutely right. Their should have been a new version of it now. If a new version isn’t created, there is going to be an upwar for sure. I’m wondering if these offers are truly loyal to NVDA enough to create a new version of it?



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Inam Uddin via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 8:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA remote



Respected friend, as far as new remote addon is concern, it is not available!

Thanks to Joseph Lee who patched old remote addon so it will work with NVDA 2018.3.1

If you need it,

Please Click Here <https://www.josephsl.net/files/nvdaaddons/remote-2.1wxPy4-1807.nvda-addon>

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From: Tyler Wood <mailto:tcwood12@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 1:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA remote



Is the new remote out yet?

thanks





On 23-Sep-2018 5:03 PM, Mark wrote:

Hi all,

Can someone tell me if someone has the old remote with the old NVDA and I have the new remote with the latest NVdA will this work

Or do you both have to use the new remote

Mark.

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Re: edge and web shortcuts

Gary Metzler
 

Hi Quentin,

 

Here is the url in question:

http://www.liveprayer.com/devo.cfm

 

Thanks,

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 9:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] edge and web shortcuts

 

What does the "Target" field in your shortcut have in it?  If I have a desktop shortcut with the target set to:

etc, it loads the page in the default browser - Edge in this case.

 

On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 6:21 AM Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...> wrote:

Hi Brian,

My default browser is edge.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 4:16 PM
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Subject: Re: [nvda] edge and web shortcuts

What is the default browser set as?

 It sounds a bit like a windows issue. I've seen something similar in
windows 7 if a browser is launched with different syntax for the page you
wanted to go to so to speak.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Metzler" <gmtravel@...>
To: "nvda" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 9:06 PM
Subject: [nvda] edge and web shortcuts


> Hi All,
>
>
>
> I am using the latest win10 and nvda.  Whenever I start my facebook
> shortcut
> and it loads I get the message invalid entry.  But, when I do this within
> edge it doesn't happen.  It only happens with edge and desktop shortcuts.
> Has anyone else noticed this?  Can this be fixed?  Thanks for any help.
>
>
>
> Regards, Gary KN4Ox
>
> Send to: gmtravel@...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>








 

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Re: NVDA remote

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Yes the big challenge for writers comes when nvda moves to Python 3. At the moment most of the errors seem to be in the display of menues and property sheets, or non display of them !!
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Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 4:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA remote


Respected friend, as far as new remote addon is concern, it is not available!
Thanks to Joseph Lee who patched old remote addon so it will work with NVDA 2018.3.1
If you need it,
Please Click Here
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
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From: Tyler Wood
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 1:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA remote

Is the new remote out yet?
thanks


On 23-Sep-2018 5:03 PM, Mark wrote:
Hi all,
Can someone tell me if someone has the old remote with the old NVDA and I have the new remote with the latest NVdA will this work
Or do you both have to use the new remote
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weird symbols

Brian Tew
 

Is there a way to make windojs 10 and/or nvda output nothing but ascii <= 127 characters?
that is plain text. thanks.


Re: NVDA remote

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I think its fine to mix them, but not actually tried it. Its mainly the gui that is the issue and each is local to that copy so really should not affect things unless I'm misreading the data.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark" <mark@tafn.org.uk>
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Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 9:03 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA remote


Hi all,
Can someone tell me if someone has the old remote with the old NVDA and I have the new remote with the latest NVdA will this work
Or do you both have to use the new remote
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Re: Speech synth used on them cool Fire tablits and Fire TV

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You need to ask Amazon. I suspect they paid a lot of money to get exclusivity on the voices.
Brian

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Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 8:30 PM
Subject: [nvda] Speech synth used on them cool Fire tablits and Fire TV


Hi. If anyone could contact me off list at:
Lino.jr@twc.com<mailto:Lino.jr@twc.com>
I’d like to know if I could get said synth and want to know if it can work with NVDDA. Thanks.

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Re: has anybody seen this using windows 1803

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Not always. I had this on soundcloud the other day as obviously the sender had no idea they were using a corporate account and that any recipient needed their log in details.
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Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] has anybody seen this using windows 1803


Based on how you describe it, this is probably a tech support scam. Just close the tab.

On 9/23/2018 11:42 AM, Tony Ballou wrote:
howdy folks,

Has anyone seen the following message when trying to download content
from the web using windows 1803, (Authentication Required, your computer
is blocked) the dialog box also has edit fields for a user name and
password. One of my musician friends is trying to send me a set of jazz
Mp3's for our next upcoming rehearsal. Is this some sort of windows
security thing or what? Never seen it before.

Tony


Re: has anybody seen this using windows 1803

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How are they sending it to you? If its a cloud service the person the other end has maybe password protected it. However I think we will start to see this more if the EU get their way on making services vet uploaded content.

I use dropbox, which at the moment at least allows you to send a public link to a recipient via email.
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----- Original Message -----
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 4:42 PM
Subject: [nvda] has anybody seen this using windows 1803


howdy folks,

Has anyone seen the following message when trying to download content
from the web using windows 1803, (Authentication Required, your computer
is blocked) the dialog box also has edit fields for a user name and
password. One of my musician friends is trying to send me a set of jazz
Mp3's for our next upcoming rehearsal. Is this some sort of windows
security thing or what? Never seen it before.

Tony



Re: clifboard

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Open notepad and paste it with control v as normal then save the file.

Same goes for word or other software.
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 4:15 PM
Subject: [nvda] clifboard


How do we paste the clipboard info into a file?



Re: weird symbols

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It depends. Obviously they're are many character sets and if the one used is different it will either be another character or if the language is not loaded or the conversion table not there, then you tend to get the control char and some number that represents the character.
I used to see this a lot when Apple machines quoted or pasted text.
=20 and other numbers inserted randomly and no line breaks. Its been an issue for many years.
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Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 4:07 PM
Subject: [nvda] weird symbols


I use braille. some symbols come out weird, e.g. in skype apostrophe looks like
backslash x 2019

Is there a way to make these symbols become dormal text?
And whadaya call these things, hex or unicode?


Re: CAPTCHA Be Gone abandoned also?

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Not really if you hide the password.
Brian

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From: "Richard Bartholomew" <rlbart53@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] CAPTCHA Be Gone abandoned also?


Also, you are placing a lot of faith in someone who will probably be able to see your logon details as well as the captcha!



Regards

Richard Bartholomew





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 24 September 2018 03:09
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] CAPTCHA Be Gone abandoned also?



Have you tried this? I'm not sure it will work well. Captchas use distorted letters and numbers and I don't know how well a camera picture of a screen will show the distorted characters. Some captchas use other methods but a lot still use distorted characters.



Gene

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From: Desert Moon <mailto:desert.moon@hotmail.ca>

Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 6:31 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] CAPTCHA Be Gone abandoned also?



Hello All,

When I am faced with a CAPCHA challenge, I will make use of the Be My Eyes iPhone app. Just ask the volunteer to tall me what's on the screen. Safer than using an unknown add-on.
--
Desert