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Re: NVDA and Windows 7

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Cearbhall,

Probably redundant replying now, but I will anyway :)

The main issue that I'm aware of, is that you need to be running Windows 7 with Service Pack 1.  If you have an older version of Windows 7, you'll need to run NVDA 2017.3 until you update to SP1.

Otherwise, Windows 7 is certainly still supported, so if you do encounter anything else that doesn't work as expected, do please let us know.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 5:31 PM Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

Are there any known problems running NVDA 2018.3.2 on Windows 7 on a desktop PC?

 

I have heard of one case that is having difficulty and I am about to assist that person. It would help to know if there are any issues.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Re: Strange pronunciations

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Walmir,

Someone (possibly you?) reported this on Twitter as well and I created an issue on the eSpeak NG issue tracker here: https://github.com/espeak-ng/espeak-ng/issues/557

Feel free to subscribe to that or reply if you have more detail to add.

If you do subscribe to the issue, feel free to prompt me when they fix and close it, and we'll look at updating the version of eSpeak NG we use in NVDA.

NVDA doesn't automatically update eSpeak NG builds as new ones are released, but we'll make updating a priority when we know there are fixes in there that users are waiting on.

Regards

Quentin.


On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 5:42 AM Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io <wsautodidata=yahoo.com.br@groups.io> wrote:
Hi,

After upgrading to NVDA 2018.3, eSpeak is strangely pronouncing all
words with the letter "y" when in the Portuguese brazilian language.

For example, the word "system" is being pronounced as "zystem".

Can someone communicate this to the eSpeak team?






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Re: Using Macrium Reflect Version 7 to Take A Full System Image Backup

Tony Ballou
 

Howdy,


Thanks mate. I've had a copy of this program for a while now but have yet to use it.  Looks like from what I've been reading and hearing from numerous reputable sources, here on this list, in the wires, and in my personal network that this will definitely come in handy prior to and after upgrading from windows 1803 to 1809.


Tony

On 10/5/2018 11:13 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
There has been much discussion on several groups about an entirely accessible backup utility with regard to actually taking a full system image backup.  I have yet to find a backup and recovery utility that is 100% accessible in all respects, but Macrium Reflect, Version 7, is 100% accessible for creating a full system image backup for "the typical user" who keeps the typical disc arrangement under Windows where all OS files and user data files are on the C: drive.

Given what's been happening over the last several days with the Windows 10 Version 1809 feature update it is really critical to take a full system image backup before it is applied.

Here's the link to download the step-by-step instructions, along with notes about setting things up, in MS-Word format:

Using Macrium Reflect With a Screen Reader To Take a Full System Image Backup

You should be presented with a Save dialog shortly after activating the link. 

I went through this process from beginning to end using NVDA to control everything.  I cannot imagine that things should be different in JAWS and possibly even Narrator.  If there are any significant differences that you encounter please share them on this topic.
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Re: Nvda certification exam

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Claire,

Thanks for raising this.  I have recently updated the Basic Training material and I was working on the Word material.  I must admit, I had intended to look at the exam and it had slipped my mind so I will catch up on my correspondence and then start looking at the certification exam.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 7:10 AM Claire Potter <claire.potter99@...> wrote:
Hi all, I have a question regarding the current online certification exam which people can take for NVDA. I have noticed that the questions are about version 17.3, and I wanted to know if there are any plans to update the exam to make it more relevant to the current release of NVDA, as I try to prepare for the exam it is very diffcult to make sure I am revising with the right information, a classic example being the Basic Training book which is now revevant to newer versions of NVDA than what the exam covers, and although most of the information is the same, it is extremely confusing when it comes to taking the exam.  

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Re: Tutorials for hyper-v?

Quentin Christensen
 

I don't have any tutorials for Hyper-V, but did you end up finding any or getting any other responses?  I happen to have a query from someone elsewhere on Hyper-V and I don't have any experience with it myself.

Regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 7:17 AM luke scholey <l.scholey@...> wrote:
Hi all
Does anyone know of a good tutorial that can help me get started with using hyper-V with NVDA?
Thanks
Luke

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Re: closing the NVDA About window

Quentin Christensen
 

The Speech Viewer window stays visible on top of other Windows even when it does not have focus.  While you can focus it and then press ALT+F4, the other way would be to press NVDA+n to open the NVDA menu, then T for tools, then S to toggle Speech Viewer (or down arrow a couple of times to get to it then enter).

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 12:42 AM Clare Page <clare.page@...> wrote:

Hi!

You don’t need to use alt+F4 or Escape, or even the Tab key, to close the About dialogue in the Help menu of NVDA: the window closes with an OK button. All you need to do is to press the spacebar at any point during the reading of the About message: the OK button will be activated, and the window with the About message in it will close.

I hope this helps!

Bye for now!

From Clare

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Giles Turnbull
Sent: vendredi 28 septembre 2018 16:20
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] closing the NVDA About window

 

Hi All,

I was just looking in the About window to see which version of NVDA I have installed, and it is 2018.3.2 ... now I know that I am unable to close that About dialogue!

Presing Escape, Alt+F4 produce no results, and tabbing around finds no close button!

I think I remember something similar happning with configuration windows back in NVDA 2017, so wonder if it might be related ... is anybody else experienceing this?

Thanks,

Giles



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Re: Not able to read pdf file

farhan israk
 

It was a hard copy which I scannes through abby fine reader.


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Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2018 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Not able to read pdf file


Check this file.

On Sat, 6 Oct 2018, 9:32 pm Lino Morales, <linomorales001@...> wrote:

> Hi. Well we don’t know what type of file it is. Is it an image? Was it
> improperly formatted perhaps? We don’t know. What is it supposed to be
> sir?
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
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>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of farhan
> israk <fahim.net.2014@...>
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 6, 2018 11:30:17 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* [nvda] Not able to read pdf file
>
>
> I'm Fahim from Dhaka, Bangladesh. I habe a pdf file. But, I'm not able to
> read it. I used abby fine reader and open book. But, failed to read it.
> Screen readers reads as there are lots of simbles. How to read it!
>
>








Re: Are either LastPass or 1Password accessible with nvda on win7 and win10?

Hope Williamson <isepic@...>
 

I use LastPass as well without any trouble. I’m using NVDA as my primary screen reader these days, but I’ve used it with JAWS in the past and not had a problem.


Re: Are either LastPass or 1Password accessible with nvda on win7 and win10?

 

I use Bitwarden (https://www.bitwarden.com). It's free except for things like a gigabyte of extra storage for keeping files safe, and it's open-source, which I love.

On 10/7/2018 8:45 PM, Angelo Sonnesso wrote:
I use Lastpass all the time, with NVDA Jaws, and Narrator with no trouble.


73 N2DYN Angelo

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ejaz Shah
Sent: Sunday, October 7, 2018 6:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Are either lastpass or 1Password accessible with nvda on win7 and win10?

LastPass seems to be quite accessible to me. I have been using this with Firefox for many years.

On 07/10/2018 8:30 pm, Mike Sedmak wrote:
I am considering changing password managers and would welcome feedback
on the accessibility of lastpass and 1Password on windows.

Any recommendations for or against either based on accessibility?

Thanks,
Mike






Re: NVDA 2018.3rc1 espeak problem with Russian language.

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Alexander,

We have created a test build of NVDA using the latest build of eSpeak, which should address the Russian pronunciation problems.  Please try it and let me know whether it works or not.  The build starts similar to any other NVDA download - once you run it, you can either install it, or continue running (as a portable version) - either should be fine to test this.


Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 6:25 AM Александр Епанешников <aarnaarn2@...> wrote:
hello, i am from russia and i using espeak. in changelog i noticed that the synthesizer was updated. unfortunately because of the update, some words and prepositions were pronounced very strange. I can not explain it to people who do not know Russian, but it sounds unpleasant.
is it possible to not update the synthesizer in the release, or to find the source of the problem?
Sincerely, Alexander.



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Re: Are either LastPass or 1Password accessible with nvda on win7 and win10?

Angelo Sonnesso
 

I use Lastpass all the time, with NVDA Jaws, and Narrator with no trouble.


73 N2DYN Angelo

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ejaz Shah
Sent: Sunday, October 7, 2018 6:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Are either lastpass or 1Password accessible with nvda on win7 and win10?

LastPass seems to be quite accessible to me. I have been using this with Firefox for many years.

On 07/10/2018 8:30 pm, Mike Sedmak wrote:
I am considering changing password managers and would welcome feedback
on the accessibility of lastpass and 1Password on windows.

Any recommendations for or against either based on accessibility?

Thanks,
Mike



Re: Are either lastpass or 1Password accessible with nvda on win7 and win10?

Ejaz Shah
 

LastPass seems to be quite accessible to me. I have been using this with Firefox for many years.

On 07/10/2018 8:30 pm, Mike Sedmak wrote:
I am considering changing password managers and would welcome feedback
on the accessibility of lastpass and 1Password on windows.

Any recommendations for or against either based on accessibility?

Thanks,
Mike


Re: Are either lastpass or 1Password accessible with nvda on win7 and win10?

E.T.
 

I have 1Password 7 on Mac and Windows. I find the Mac easier but once its all set up, Windows too is ok though I still am not used to NVDA. 1Password 7 looks to be able to handle today's schemes used for passwords. I still need to move the data from Dropbox to my account at 1Password.com. Had some assistance from Sylvie. :)

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On 10/7/2018 8:50 AM, Cohn, Jonathan wrote:
Hello,
I have not used either of these on the Windows platform, however One Password's developer was responsive to requests to make there application accessible on IOS and MacOS. I believe there was another query about 1Password on the NVDA mailing list in the last week, so you might want to review the archives.
Take care,
Jonathan Cohn
On 10/7/18, 11:34 AM, "nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of Mike Sedmak" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of mcsedmak@gmail.com> wrote:
I am considering changing password managers and would welcome feedback
on the accessibility of lastpass and 1Password on windows.

Any recommendations for or against either based on accessibility?

Thanks,
Mike





Re: Windows10 Screen Reader in Word #NVAccess

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Have you at some time set up a profile for say all to use the sappi 5 voice? Or in your case just for Word. I tend to use a speech platform voice for long documents but I'm fine with espeak on shorter ones.
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Subject: [nvda] Windows10 Screen Reader in Word #NVAccess


I‘ve got a strange problem in Word under Win10. The system is setup to use the NVDA eSpeak NG as screen reader now, because it is the only screen reader with multi-language support for Word, so it can read texts in English and German without problems. I‘ve used Microsoft Speech API v5 before, because the voice is very natural.
All Windows commands (etc.) are using eSpeak NG, but Word is still using the Microsoft Speech API v5! Only if I open the NVDA speech settings, eSpeak NG is also used as screen reader for Word. As soon as I close the settings dialog, Word switches back to the MS API! I can even confirm that when looking into the NVDA log. It also shows the switching. Is there a way to prevent this? Or is there another way to get multi-language-support?


Re: Are either lastpass or 1Password accessible with nvda on win7 and win10?

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I'm thinking of it also as I find so many restrictions on passwords nowadays that the only true way is something totally random which of course if you lose it is impossible most of the time to remember.
So how would one import already signed in services without a reset password request on every single one.
Brian

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Are either lastpass or 1Password accessible with nvda on win7 and win10?


Actually, I've been using Keepass for years & didn't even know there
was a screen reader setting till Alexander was kind & astute enough to
point that out. I don't know if it actually makes much difference, as
I just set it. I'll just have to work w/it & see if I think it really
does optimize screen reader experience, as I was certainly very
satisfied w/o the setting. I do think that absolutely everyone should
use a password manager unless they just don't go online at all, & then
they likely wouldn't be on this list :).

On 10/7/18, Alexander Epaneshnikov <aarnaarn2@gmail.com> wrote:
i recommend KeePass. ( https://keepass.info/ ) i use it. it's totally
accessible. u mast enable screen reader support in advanced settings.
and you can import your database from another manager.




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Re: NVDAPR, ISSUE big collection

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Well if you know of any programmers who work for nothing willing to get busy, I'm sure Mick will love you for ever... Note this is meant as a joke.
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Subject: [nvda] NVDAPR, ISSUE big collection


Hi Recently I watched GitHubPR for nvaccess/nvda, and ISSUE. It is found that there are still 54 PRs, and 2,317 ISSUEs have not yet been resolved. The earliest can be traced back to 2016, and the latest is now 2018. The following is a PR New speech framework including callbacks, beeps, sounds, profile switches and prioritized queuing https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/pull/7599 #4273: Report numbers as single digits, double digits , Tripple digits, or words. https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/pull/5930 Finally, sending this post is to hope that NVACCESS can solve some problems left over from history.


Re: Problems with tables in Adobe reader

Desert Moon
 

Hello Marco and Else,

My PC is running Windows 10 with the latest NVDA (2018.3.2) and Adobe Reader DC 19. Don't have problems reading tables in PDF files using NVDA or Read Out Loud. Suggest you walk through the accessibility setup in Adobe:

https://helpx.adobe.com/ca/reader/using/accessibility-features.html






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Re: Using Macrium Reflect Version 7 to Take A Full System Image Backup

 

If a restore is due to something like a hard disc failure, then the Macrium Reflect Recovery Media, which uses Windows PE as its basis, must be booted from since there is no longer any functioning disc with the OS to boot from.  You then restore to the replacement disc.

If a restore is because your system has become "hosed" but still remains bootable and you're able to start Macrium under Windows, you can restore from within Macrium.

Personally, I have never done a restore in the second circumstance.   All of my restores (and there have been 3 in about 30 years on my own machines - I'm not counting client machines, which still makes the total under 10) were due to hardware failure where I needed to get a new primary disc drive.  Definitely booting from external media in that circumstance.

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Windows10 Screen Reader in Word #NVAccess

sven.zoephel@...
 

I‘ve got a strange problem in Word under Win10. The system is setup to use the NVDA eSpeak NG as screen reader now, because it is the only screen reader with multi-language support for Word, so it can read texts in English and German without problems. I‘ve used Microsoft Speech API v5 before, because the voice is very natural. 
All Windows commands (etc.) are using eSpeak NG, but Word is still using the Microsoft Speech API v5! Only if I open the NVDA speech settings, eSpeak NG is also used as screen reader for Word. As soon as I close the settings dialog, Word switches back to the MS API! I can even confirm that when looking into the NVDA log. It also shows the switching. Is there a way to prevent this? Or is there another way to get multi-language-support?


Re: Are either lastpass or 1Password accessible with nvda on win7 and win10?

Jackie
 

Actually, I've been using Keepass for years & didn't even know there
was a screen reader setting till Alexander was kind & astute enough to
point that out. I don't know if it actually makes much difference, as
I just set it. I'll just have to work w/it & see if I think it really
does optimize screen reader experience, as I was certainly very
satisfied w/o the setting. I do think that absolutely everyone should
use a password manager unless they just don't go online at all, & then
they likely wouldn't be on this list :).

On 10/7/18, Alexander Epaneshnikov <aarnaarn2@gmail.com> wrote:
i recommend KeePass. ( https://keepass.info/ ) i use it. it's totally
accessible. u mast enable screen reader support in advanced settings.
and you can import your database from another manager.



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