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Re: welcome screen on nvda

 

On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 07:35 PM, larry k wrote:
yes and it says a diolog about the modifyer keys and displaying this message upon startup.

On that one I have no idea, as I've never had NVDA show/say anything about modifier keys and/or display on startup.   There are, however, checkboxes for Automatically start NVDA when I log in to Windows and Use NVDA on the Windows Login screen in the General tab.
 
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Re: welcome screen on nvda

larry k
 

yes and it says a diolog about the modifyer keys and displaying this message upon startup.
it was once there, but she got rid of it, but wants it back.
 
 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 4:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] welcome screen on nvda
 
Are you referring to the opening xylophone tones, followed by, "Loading NVDA, please wait."?
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Re: welcome screen on nvda

 
Edited

Are you referring to the opening xylophone tones, followed by, "Loading NVDA, please wait."?

If so, open NVDA Settings, General Tab (the one that opens by default) and check the checkbox for Play sounds when starting or exiting NVDA.
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Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

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welcome screen on nvda

larry k
 

I'm helping someone with an existing copy of nvda. they want the welcome message back. where do I find the place to enable it?


NVDA and MathML, specifically for Chemistry Markup Language [Subscripts in Particular]

Andy Keyworth
 

Hello,

I'd like to find an answer about if NVDA can be configured to read MathML, WHERE the MathML is being used to represent chemistry. The main issue is that NVDA does not currently seem to read the subscripts in chemical equations.

Thank you,
Andy Keyworth


Using Google Actions console with NVDA

Patrick ZAJDA
 

Hello,


Does someone has succeeded in finding a project ID on Google Actions console?


In fact, what can we do with a screen reader on https://console.actions.google.com ? ;)


I tried  using Google Chrome.

The project ID looks like not existing, we have unusable menus.


Oh yes, I was able to create a project lol.


If someone has already used it I am really interested.

And who could I contact about accessibility related issues on this service? There are a lot of wirk ;)


Best regards,

--
Patrick ZAJDA


Re: seika6 display braille, why no driver?

 

Hi,
From what I can gather, part of the reason is that NVDA developers didn't
get updated bits from whoever was working on Seika display driver.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Simone Dal Maso
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 9:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] seika6 display braille, why no driver?

Hello Joseph and all,
For Seika6 or touchme6 or whatever that finish with 6, yes, we have
troubles.
But why NVDA doesn't support anymore the Seika5 display, and we should
install the external addon?
If this is a final decision, we should update documentation, because from
NVDA 2019.3 the normal situation is that described by Ollie, where you can
read 40 characters and then you can't scroll with dedicated keys.
Perhaps, Ollie the dedicated screen reader installed something magic on
your pc, some dll, some drivers, or some little creatures that make the
dirty work!




Il 18/06/2020 18:10, Joseph Lee ha scritto:
Hi,
I'm thinking it might have to do with DLL's, which suggests that there
is no pure Python driver for Seika 6 at the moment.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mallard
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] seika6 display braille, why no driver?

Hello simoneand all,


Funny, I was just going to report a strange experience I've just had
with my Touchme5.


The external add-on (or driver, or whatever it was) never worked for
meThe display was seen by NVDA in Automatic, but not if I selected it
from the Seika option. I got the "Unable to load display" error.


On automatic, though, I could read the first 40 characters, move down
or up by line, but not pan horizontally.


Last week I bought ZDSR, a Chinese screen reader for Windows, which
only supports Seika display brailles.


I installed it, and my Touchme5 sorked like a clock immediately.


the strangest thing, however, was that, when I treid using with NVDA,
it loaded regularly choosing the Seika option, and now it works
perfectly well with NVDAtoo.

I can scroll, pan, use touch cursors...


Don't know what did the trick; I can only think that ZDSR installed
some driver or other that now lets me use this display all along.


I hope the devs will find a way to make Seika displays work with NVDA
again, because the braillle is very good, and it's a pity they can't
be used at their best.


sorry for the partially OT, but I wanted to report this, just in case
someone understands what might have done the trick.

Ciao,

Ollie




On 16/06/2020 17:45, Simone Dal Maso wrote:
Hello,
the situation for Seika Display Braille is quite strange on my opinion.
Now, for Seika until version5, users should use an external addon,
since from 2019.3 NVDA is not able to recognize properly the display
braille.
For seika6, the situation is different because there are no addons
and NVDA is not able to initialize the display.
I think that NVDA should be able to manage Seika Display Braille...
do you have some hints or ideas about this?








Re: seika6 display braille, why no driver?

Simone Dal Maso
 

Hello Joseph and all,
For Seika6 or touchme6 or whatever that finish with 6, yes, we have troubles.
But why NVDA doesn't support anymore the Seika5 display, and we should install the external addon?
If this is a final decision, we should update documentation, because from NVDA 2019.3 the normal situation is that described by Ollie, where you can read 40 characters and then you can't scroll with dedicated keys.
Perhaps, Ollie the dedicated screen reader installed something magic on your pc, some dll, some drivers, or some little creatures that make the dirty work!

Il 18/06/2020 18:10, Joseph Lee ha scritto:
Hi,
I'm thinking it might have to do with DLL's, which suggests that there is no
pure Python driver for Seika 6 at the moment.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mallard
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] seika6 display braille, why no driver?
Hello simoneand all,
Funny, I was just going to report a strange experience I've just had with my
Touchme5.
The external add-on (or driver, or whatever it was) never worked for
meThe display was seen by NVDA in Automatic, but not if I selected it
from the Seika option. I got the "Unable to load display" error.
On automatic, though, I could read the first 40 characters, move down or
up by line, but not pan horizontally.
Last week I bought ZDSR, a Chinese screen reader for Windows, which only
supports Seika display brailles.
I installed it, and my Touchme5 sorked like a clock immediately.
the strangest thing, however, was that, when I treid using with NVDA, it
loaded regularly choosing the Seika option, and now it works perfectly
well with NVDAtoo.
I can scroll, pan, use touch cursors...
Don't know what did the trick; I can only think that ZDSR installed some
driver or other that now lets me use this display all along.
I hope the devs will find a way to make Seika displays work with NVDA
again, because the braillle is very good, and it's a pity they can't be
used at their best.
sorry for the partially OT, but I wanted to report this, just in case
someone understands what might have done the trick.
Ciao,
Ollie
On 16/06/2020 17:45, Simone Dal Maso wrote:
Hello,
the situation for Seika Display Braille is quite strange on my opinion.
Now, for Seika until version5, users should use an external addon,
since from 2019.3 NVDA is not able to recognize properly the display
braille.
For seika6, the situation is different because there are no addons and
NVDA is not able to initialize the display.
I think that NVDA should be able to manage Seika Display Braille... do
you have some hints or ideas about this?




Re: seika6 display braille, why no driver?

 

Hi,
I'm thinking it might have to do with DLL's, which suggests that there is no
pure Python driver for Seika 6 at the moment.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mallard
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] seika6 display braille, why no driver?

Hello simoneand all,


Funny, I was just going to report a strange experience I've just had with my
Touchme5.


The external add-on (or driver, or whatever it was) never worked for
meThe display was seen by NVDA in Automatic, but not if I selected it
from the Seika option. I got the "Unable to load display" error.


On automatic, though, I could read the first 40 characters, move down or
up by line, but not pan horizontally.


Last week I bought ZDSR, a Chinese screen reader for Windows, which only
supports Seika display brailles.


I installed it, and my Touchme5 sorked like a clock immediately.


the strangest thing, however, was that, when I treid using with NVDA, it
loaded regularly choosing the Seika option, and now it works perfectly
well with NVDAtoo.

I can scroll, pan, use touch cursors...


Don't know what did the trick; I can only think that ZDSR installed some
driver or other that now lets me use this display all along.


I hope the devs will find a way to make Seika displays work with NVDA
again, because the braillle is very good, and it's a pity they can't be
used at their best.


sorry for the partially OT, but I wanted to report this, just in case
someone understands what might have done the trick.

Ciao,

Ollie




On 16/06/2020 17:45, Simone Dal Maso wrote:
Hello,
the situation for Seika Display Braille is quite strange on my opinion.
Now, for Seika until version5, users should use an external addon,
since from 2019.3 NVDA is not able to recognize properly the display
braille.
For seika6, the situation is different because there are no addons and
NVDA is not able to initialize the display.
I think that NVDA should be able to manage Seika Display Braille... do
you have some hints or ideas about this?




Re: seika6 display braille, why no driver?

Mallard
 

Hello simoneand all,


Funny, I was just going to report a strange experience I've just had with my Touchme5.


The external add-on (or driver, or whatever it was) never worked for meThe display was seen by NVDA in Automatic, but not if I selected it from the Seika option. I got the "Unable to load display" error.


On automatic, though, I could read the first 40 characters, move down or up by line, but not pan horizontally.


Last week I bought ZDSR, a Chinese screen reader for Windows, which only supports Seika display brailles.


I installed it, and my Touchme5 sorked like a clock immediately.


the strangest thing, however, was that, when I treid using with NVDA, it loaded regularly choosing the Seika option, and now it works perfectly well with NVDAtoo.

I can scroll, pan, use touch cursors...


Don't know what did the trick; I can only think that ZDSR installed some driver or other that now lets me use this display all along.


I hope the devs will find a way to make Seika displays work with NVDA again, because the braillle is very good, and it's a pity they can't be used at their best.


sorry for the partially OT, but I wanted to report this, just in case someone understands what might have done the trick.

Ciao,

Ollie

On 16/06/2020 17:45, Simone Dal Maso wrote:
Hello,
the situation for Seika Display Braille is quite strange on my opinion.
Now, for Seika until version5, users should use an external addon, since from 2019.3 NVDA is not able to recognize properly the display braille.
For seika6, the situation is different because there are no addons and NVDA is not able to initialize the display.
I think that NVDA should be able to manage Seika Display Braille... do you have some hints or ideas about this?



Re: NVDA 2020.2 Beta 1

Rui Fontes
 

Here is working as expected.

Windows 10 2004

NVDA 2020.2 Beta1


Rui Fontes

NVDA portuguese team



Às 12:23 de 18/06/2020, Robert Mendoza escreveu:

Hi, Quentin.


I noticed after the update for this beta, is that the speech synth selection is not showing after pressing NVDA plus Control plus S, and the nvda stopped on the background. So, what I did is to restart again to reload. Can someone could replicate this error as well. Thanks.

On 6/18/2020 6:12 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi everyone,

NVDA 2020.2 Beta 1 is now available for testing.

For those interested in trying out what the next version of NVDA has before it is officially released.

Visit https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2020-2beta1/ to download the beta and provide feedback.

Regards

Quentin.

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Training and Support Manager


Re: NVDA 2020.2 Beta 1

Jacob Kruger
 

It also gives me the error sound, and, I need to alt+tab a bit to then find the dialogue, etc.


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2020-06-18 01:23 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

Hi, Quentin.


I noticed after the update for this beta, is that the speech synth selection is not showing after pressing NVDA plus Control plus S, and the nvda stopped on the background. So, what I did is to restart again to reload. Can someone could replicate this error as well. Thanks.

On 6/18/2020 6:12 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi everyone,

NVDA 2020.2 Beta 1 is now available for testing.

For those interested in trying out what the next version of NVDA has before it is officially released.

Visit https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2020-2beta1/ to download the beta and provide feedback.

Regards

Quentin.

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: NVDA 2020.2 Beta 1

Robert Mendoza
 

Hi, Quentin.


I noticed after the update for this beta, is that the speech synth selection is not showing after pressing NVDA plus Control plus S, and the nvda stopped on the background. So, what I did is to restart again to reload. Can someone could replicate this error as well. Thanks.

On 6/18/2020 6:12 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi everyone,

NVDA 2020.2 Beta 1 is now available for testing.

For those interested in trying out what the next version of NVDA has before it is officially released.

Visit https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2020-2beta1/ to download the beta and provide feedback.

Regards

Quentin.

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: Braille input focus 40 blue 5th gen and NVDA

Justin Harford
 

Greetings

Thank you for these helpful answers. I was mainly trying to figure out if you can type using the braille keyboard and grade 2 braille.

Have a great week.

Regards
Justin Harford (he/him/his)
Program Coordinator (NCDE)
Mobility International USA (MIUSA)
132 E Broadway Suite 343
Eugene OR 97401
541-343-1284 ext 1014 (voice)
jharford@... (email)




On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 7:45 PM Roberto Perez <rober555x@...> wrote:

I have successfully used a Focus 40 blue 5 generation with NVDA. It is necessary to install a driver that can be found in the following FS page: https://support.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/Focus/FocusBlueBrailleDisplayDriver.

It is possible to add commands to toggle the modifier keys using the input gestures dialog but I don’t think it is possible to emulate the function keys, so you may have to depend on an external keyboard up to some extent. There is an addon that extends NVDA braille support considerably called braille extender  which adds support for the functions keys but I don’t think it has been updated to support the latest versions of NVDA.


NVDA 2020.2 Beta 1

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

NVDA 2020.2 Beta 1 is now available for testing.

For those interested in trying out what the next version of NVDA has before it is officially released.

Visit https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2020-2beta1/ to download the beta and provide feedback.

Regards

Quentin.

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


MSI Installer not speaking buttons correctly in Windows 10 2004.

Jonathan COHN
 

                Well, I have an MSI installer, that has buttons like customize, and complete install. In Windows 1903 and 1909 these installers are working correctly with all screen readers. In Windows 2004, I am seeing NVDA say compeit for complete Installation on these buttons. I highly doubt that this is an NVDA issue, but has anybody seen this badly spoken buttons in installers with NVDA and Windows10 v 2004?

Thanks!

Jonathan

 


Re: Discrepancy Between NVDA and Youtube sounds

Gene
 

I should have said that as I recall, the original problem discussed is a volume level one. I was pointing out something else that may cause problems for people if they are unaware of it and how it is actually a good feature.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 4:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Discrepancy Between NVDA and Youtube sounds

Firefox hasn't used Flash to play videos for a good while, unless an HTML5
copy isn't available on a web site. As I recall, the problem is a volume
level one.

But whatever is causing that problem, its worth noting that Firefox won't
automatically play videos in more recent versions. There is a play button
Firefox places on the screen which you activate. I don't use Firefox much,
but I've seen more than one play button at times and the one at or near the
top of the screen does nothing. You have to find the one farther down.

That's actually a good feature for blind people, preventing sites from
playing unwanted audio when a screen-reader is being used.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Nevzat Adil
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 4:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Discrepancy Between NVDA and Youtube sounds

I tried all suggestions but nothing changed.
In the end I switched to Google Crome where the sound of Youtube
videos play well.
My guess is that the problem is Flash player which Firefox uses to
play videos.
Thanks.

On 6/15/20, Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jun 2020, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Why not just enter sndvol in the run dialogue. It is much quicker and has
less key strokes. You can even switch play back devices from there via a
tool bar
If you're good at remembering commands, that's fine. Heck, you can even
create a
desktop keyboard shortcut to launch it.

But not everyone is good at commands. Giving a solution that just involves
Finding this icon who's name you may not remember but you'll know it when
you
see it, can be more useful for less experienced users.

Different strokes.

Luke





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e-mail: @Nev
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Re: Discrepancy Between NVDA and Youtube sounds

Gene
 

Firefox hasn't used Flash to play videos for a good while, unless an HTML5 copy isn't available on a web site. As I recall, the problem is a volume level one.

But whatever is causing that problem, its worth noting that Firefox won't automatically play videos in more recent versions. There is a play button Firefox places on the screen which you activate. I don't use Firefox much, but I've seen more than one play button at times and the one at or near the top of the screen does nothing. You have to find the one farther down.

That's actually a good feature for blind people, preventing sites from playing unwanted audio when a screen-reader is being used.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Nevzat Adil
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 4:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Discrepancy Between NVDA and Youtube sounds

I tried all suggestions but nothing changed.
In the end I switched to Google Crome where the sound of Youtube
videos play well.
My guess is that the problem is Flash player which Firefox uses to
play videos.
Thanks.

On 6/15/20, Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jun 2020, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Why not just enter sndvol in the run dialogue. It is much quicker and has
less key strokes. You can even switch play back devices from there via a
tool bar
If you're good at remembering commands, that's fine. Heck, you can even
create a
desktop keyboard shortcut to launch it.

But not everyone is good at commands. Giving a solution that just involves
Finding this icon who's name you may not remember but you'll know it when
you
see it, can be more useful for less experienced users.

Different strokes.

Luke





--
Nevzat Adil
Library of Congress Certified
Literary Braille Proofreader
C: 512 502 4403
e-mail: @Nev
Facebook: m.facebook.com/LiteraryBrailleProofreader


Re: Discrepancy Between NVDA and Youtube sounds

 

I tried all suggestions but nothing changed.
In the end I switched to Google Crome where the sound of Youtube
videos play well.
My guess is that the problem is Flash player which Firefox uses to
play videos.
Thanks.

On 6/15/20, Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jun 2020, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Why not just enter sndvol in the run dialogue. It is much quicker and has
less key strokes. You can even switch play back devices from there via a
tool bar
If you're good at remembering commands, that's fine. Heck, you can even
create a
desktop keyboard shortcut to launch it.

But not everyone is good at commands. Giving a solution that just involves
Finding this icon who's name you may not remember but you'll know it when
you
see it, can be more useful for less experienced users.

Different strokes.

Luke




--
Nevzat Adil
Library of Congress Certified
Literary Braille Proofreader
C: 512 502 4403
e-mail: @Nev
Facebook: m.facebook.com/LiteraryBrailleProofreader


Re: remote servers

Luke Davis
 

On Wed, 17 Jun 2020, Brian Vogel wrote:

Larry,           I'm not sure whether attachments go out to e-mail participants, but they definitely get stripped from the archive, which makes me think
they're stripped via e-mail as well
They are stripped. We did not get Larry's attachment. If you can, Larry, please send me a copy at <luke@...>.

I'll start a public web based list of servers as soon as I collect a few to put on it.

Luke