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Problem with last "NVDA next" and "Remote Support
Ângelo Abrantes
Hi,
Here's a part of my log file: "DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.__init__ (16:33:01.305): Using manifest translation from C:\Users\Angelo\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\systrayList\locale\pt_PT\manifest.ini ERROR - globalPluginHandler.initialize (16:33:01.361): Error initializing global plugin <class 'globalPlugins.remoteClient.GlobalPlugin'> Traceback (most recent call last): File "globalPluginHandler.pyc", line 32, in initialize File "C:\Users\Angelo\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\remote\globalPlugins\remoteClient\__init__.py", line 56, in __init__ File "C:\Users\Angelo\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\remote\globalPlugins\remoteClient\__init__.py", line 104, in create_menu AttributeError: 'MenuItem' object has no attribute 'SetCheckable' DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.__init__ (16:33:01.382): Using manifest translation from C:\Users\Angelo\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\poeditMadeEasy\locale\en\manifest.ini DEBUG - core.main (16:33:01.413): Initializing core pump DEBUG - core.main (16:33:01.413): Initializing watchdog DEBUG - core.main (16:33:01.414): initializing updateCheck INFO - core.main (16:33:01.414): NVDA initialized" Thanks Ângelo Abrantes --- Este e-mail foi verificado em termos de vírus pelo software antivírus Avast. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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NVDA and Google Play?
David Russell
Hi NVDA Group,
In April, I signed up for, and purchased two books to read from my desktop on Google Play. All was well until last evening when I could not access either title. It had been a couple weeks since I had read one of the two titles there. Everything appears "collapsed" contents, navigation, and any other identified links when using the up or down arrow keys when in Google Play itself. When going to previous or next page in the document, NVDA reads, Oops page cannot be opened - or something like that. Of course, getting help from Google is near impossible. Trying to refresh FireFox with the f5 key from both the address bar, and in Google Play itself, does not change things. Any ideas on how to make reading once again accessible? Thanks in advance. -- David Russell david.sonofhashem@gmail.com
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Re: Addint a Desktop Shortcut for Programs or Apps under Windows 10
Ervin, Glenn
I don’t make folders often enough to have known that command. We have so many things to remember as it is in our daily lives including all the passwords and changing systems that we have to draw the line sometimes. On the desktop and elsewhere, I just found it easier to unselect anything and use the applications key to go to “new” and then enter on “Folder”.
Glenn
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 7:54 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Addint a Desktop Shortcut for Programs or Apps under Windows 10
I expect to see such commands documented when moving threw menus and submenus. It should not be necessary for a skilled user, who learns a lot about Windows and programs by looking through menus and dialogs to have to look at a commands sheet when it is expected that accelerator or shortcut commands will be shown in menus.
Also, material that I consider to be among the best produced doesn't mention this command. I doubt that more than perhaps ten or twenty percent of blind users know this command.
Gene ----- Oreiginal Message ----- From: Brian Vogel Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Addint a Desktop Shortcut for Programs or Apps under Windows 10
On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 05:32 pm, Gene wrote: I'm not surprised. Well, I still am. CTRL+SHIFT+N has been on Microsoft issued keyboard shortcuts lists for a very long time now. Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Re: Path On Portable Copy
Ervin, Glenn
What I had to do was to group the folder by date, and at the bottom of the list was:
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"today" And I just deleted that, since the only thing I put in that folder that day was NVDA. That was scary, not knowing all the things you are deleting, because on a portable drive, the way my computer is set up, there is no recycle bin. Glenn
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 11:48 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Path On Portable Copy No it never did this, it was a bit of an argument about whether it should or not but it seems the result was inconclusive. personally I'd have preferred that it defaulted to nvda, and gave the option to change it much like zip does for extracting files, but I never did see this done. Basically you can normally tell the files by their dates and times, so one can easily remove them or more usefully copy them to a new folder called nvda. At least then if it won't work you know you missed some! Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ervin, Glenn" <glenn.ervin@nebraska.gov> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2018 5:41 PM Subject: [nvda] Path On Portable Copy Hi, I just tried to make a portable copy of NVDA, after updating my local copy. I gave it the right drive path, but I did not specify \NVDA This made a mess in my drive and I hope I only deleted the NVDA files in order to re-do it. I have made portable copies of NVDA many times before. I thought that it automatically made the NVDA directory. Did this change? I would think that by default, it should create a folder called \NVDA. Glenn Glenn Ervin Orientation Counselor II Norfolk Nebraska 402 370 3436 Cell: 402 992 0325 [NCBVI"AJC Email Logo]<../../../../Documents/NCBVI%22AJC%20Email%20Logo.png> Welcome | NCBVI<https://ncbvi.nebraska.gov/>;
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Re: end of the line for nvda skype group
On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 02:00 am, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
So what else is out there for desktop machines for good quality audio over the internet free?Not quite certain as to what you mean by "for good quality audio," but if you mean for conducting video and/or audio calls Google Hangouts is great if you have a Google Account. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Re: transfor q using file zilla with nvda?
Gene
I checked. it's on the page but I would
certainly start with a much newer version.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2018 6:22 AM
To: Gene ; nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] transfor q using file zilla with
nvda? I should add that the version I'm using is very
old. It's version 2.2.28. I don't know if it will support the
version of Windows you are using.
I believe you will find it on
the page I linked to. If not, if you specifically want that version, I can
put it in my Drop Box account.
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] transfor q using file zilla with
nvda? I forgot to give the link:
Gene
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From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] transfor q using file zilla with
nvda? See this page. It doesn't list the old
versions as supporting recent versions of Windows but I don't think that means
anything, unless, perhaps the versions are really old, and I still don't know if
it matters.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: The Wolf
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] transfor q using file zilla with
nvda? is there a way you could send me the older version? is there betters one to use that is blind friendly thanks Hank On 6/6/2018 5:39 PM, Gene wrote:
-- check out my song on youtube https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y
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Re: transfor q using file zilla with nvda?
Gene
Also, I found out that the address, as shown in the
address bar of my browser, doesn't work to get to the page. Here is the
corrected address:
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] transfor q using file zilla with
nvda? I forgot to give the link:
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] transfor q using file zilla with
nvda? See this page. It doesn't list the old
versions as supporting recent versions of Windows but I don't think that means
anything, unless, perhaps the versions are really old, and I still don't know if
it matters.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: The Wolf
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] transfor q using file zilla with
nvda? is there a way you could send me the older version? is there betters one to use that is blind friendly thanks Hank On 6/6/2018 5:39 PM, Gene wrote:
-- check out my song on youtube https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y
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Re: transfor q using file zilla with nvda?
Gene
I should add that the version I'm using is very
old. It's version 2.2.28. I don't know if it will support the
version of Windows you are using.
I believe you will find it on
the page I linked to. If not, if you specifically want that version, I can
put it in my Drop Box account.
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] transfor q using file zilla with
nvda? I forgot to give the link:
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] transfor q using file zilla with
nvda? See this page. It doesn't list the old
versions as supporting recent versions of Windows but I don't think that means
anything, unless, perhaps the versions are really old, and I still don't know if
it matters.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: The Wolf
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] transfor q using file zilla with
nvda? is there a way you could send me the older version? is there betters one to use that is blind friendly thanks Hank On 6/6/2018 5:39 PM, Gene wrote:
-- check out my song on youtube https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y
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hmph one skype alternitive down
Hi.
Miranda ng and skype web don't work, tried and failed to signin. The plugin hasn't been updated in ages. The only thing I got was several attempts from microsoft on my account asking if I had in deed signed in from new zealand on an unknown brouser. I confirmed it was me, since well it was me, my country was listed in all attempts. I will not be retrying this again. The last thing I want is my account to be put as hacked which will report my google as hacked and a lot of other stuff. It took me changing a lot of passwords and reloading a lot of programs to get things to work. A friend had this among other issues, and she simply had to reformat and reinstall windows and reformat all her windows mobile phones and reinstall apps and everything. She got it fixed but it wasn't really worth it. I rechecked with normal skype and it still works which is fine by me. As an alternit, a few have used google hangouts, and I know jabber can be used for chat in miranda ng however I really don't know if I should bother as such. Maybe hangouts will have to be the new skype if it ever gets to that.
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Re: Addint a Desktop Shortcut for Programs or Apps under Windows 10
Well windows 7 is not a piece of utter crap just like xp is now total crap.
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Its got at least 2.5 years before it becomes rubbish for all time. Its still a good os till the wrecking ball hits it and thats not for a bit yet. I will keep using it either till it becomes to insecure to use it or my cpu explodes. This is a 6 year old 3rd generation intel so any of those things could happen.
On 6/7/2018 9:07 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Well its windows 7. I will say no more.
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Re: its beginning
The thing is that the skype7 powerfull features like keys, etc just didn't make it in other versions.
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With the death of skype kit its not like someone could port skype over and convert it to a windows app. Thats a thought, I do wander if people could ask microsoft to at least port the classic skype interface over for us if not the entire thing, menus, shortcut keys, sound, accessibility, and a few other things like lists of things and the windows and panels as well as boxes. I do wander what is needed to convert something like skype with the classic app converter to a windows store app, that at least for us on 10 would fix things. It would be better if ms well ported things over. Skype does face stiff competition from other previders. Just about everyone I work for and with uses whatsapp. Bar family recordings and the like most of my stuff is handled with sightling help via whats app or standard phone calls.
On 6/7/2018 9:05 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
The chatter is that Skype has lots of security holes and Microsoft are actively looking for a better way to go. when and if that does occur, I imagine the servers will no longer work with older protocols. It has for some time also had far worse drop outs and ducking issues sounding like a very badly set up vox system, which is annoying if you need to interview some luminary over it as bits of speech vanish.
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Re: end of the line for nvda skype group
It looks like its not completely the end.
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It appears for 7 and 8 users we will have to just not install the skype classic update. For 10 users, it appears microsoft have left us alone. Previded we can get the skype classic program, ms doesn't ask us to switch over to the universal. So at least for the moment they are leaving us alone who knows how long that is but still. I have not as yet tried this. The nvda skype group didn't have much traffic and I was thinking of pulling out anyway. Skype isnot a real issue for me as I hardly use it. Skype web via miranda works for text, now if I can use it to call skype then fine I guess. There is zello but I have never figured it out as such. On the other side those of us on android and ios devices will still be able to use skype,. This seems to effect desktops, that is windows, mac and linux only. For group chats there is teamtalk, and tthub.org are offering competitive rates right now. I am interested though in some kind of voip or sip app that is easy to use, accessible and can use as a protocol skype calls, messages, groups and file shares which are the only things I ever use. If that can be done and if I can login with my skype account then fine. Right now skype classic still works. Eventually that may die but who knows. The skype interface with miranda ng is a bit different, I will have to get used to it but right now well. I don't use skype enough to justify upgrading to anything new, I barely use that much of skype's power as it is.
On 6/7/2018 9:00 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I have to say its not been used here for almost a year now.
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Re: nvda freezes when doings ping test in the comands prompt
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Not in windows 7 it does not. i just tested it.
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Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "brian" <sackriderbrian45@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 9:26 PM Subject: [nvda] nvda freezes when doings ping test in the comands prompt somthing that I have noticed is that if I ping a web site in the comand prompt it will read the numbers very slowly then I will not have any nvda at all not even control alt n will always restart my nvda. Somtimes it will but other times it will not. It occures every time I try to do a ping test on any web site it causes nvda to stop working. I will have to do a hard shut down and restart my pc to get my nvda back.
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Re: Addint a Desktop Shortcut for Programs or Apps under Windows 10
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
One also has to say that my shortcut for create a new folder will work on windows 7 as well, and is why I remember it. Not much good learning it on ten then when you get on a 7 machine it won't work!
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Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 10:44 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Addint a Desktop Shortcut for Programs or Apps under Windows 10 On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 02:27 pm, Chris Mullins wrote: You are definitely correct that ALT+number row 2 is for the second item in the QAT, but every instance of Windows 10 I've dealt with, as shipped, has only two items in the quick access toolbar for file explorer: Properties (1), New Folder (2). There are six functions one can check or uncheck to include on the Quick Access Toolbar: Undo, Redo, Delete, Properties, New Folder, Rename in that order from top to bottom. The order in which one checks the various items if all are unchecked determines which position number each will have, 1 through 6 [or whatever number you have checked] on the QAT visually and their invocation via ALT+number row 1 through 6. But, by default, and unless the system has been customized, ALT+2 should be New Folder. -- *Brian* *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken , AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Re: Addint a Desktop Shortcut for Programs or Apps under Windows 10
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
One of the reasons for the many roads ethos is in case of clashes in apps orf course.
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I mean I doubt if the Windows cannot create a shortcut here, would you like it on the desktop was actually invented, more like it happened as a development of windows not being able to make a shortcut when in a certain folder in a certain mode, ie maybe having opened the file internally and locked the folder its in. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@gmail.com> To: "nvda list list" <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 9:48 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Addint a Desktop Shortcut for Programs or Apps under Windows 10 Not for me, actually I think that switches list views or something. I'll have to trythat again. On Jun 6, 2018, at 10:50 AM, Jackie <abletec@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: Addint a Desktop Shortcut for Programs or Apps under Windows 10
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Well its windows 7. I will say no more.
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Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@gmail.com> To: "nvda list list" <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Addint a Desktop Shortcut for Programs or Apps under Windows 10 There's a keyboard shortcut for making a new folder? Wow. I've ben using computers since 2002and none of my trainers have taught me this. How long as this little gem ben around. On Jun 6, 2018, at 10:27 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: its beginning
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
The chatter is that Skype has lots of security holes and Microsoft are actively looking for a better way to go. when and if that does occur, I imagine the servers will no longer work with older protocols. It has for some time also had far worse drop outs and ducking issues sounding like a very badly set up vox system, which is annoying if you need to interview some luminary over it as bits of speech vanish.
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Team talk does the same, incidentally, but I was very impressed by a friends Face time system, its a pity Apple does not make this system work on other platforms. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 8:24 PM Subject: [nvda] its beginning Hi.
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Re: end of the line for nvda skype group
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
I have to say its not been used here for almost a year now.
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I find it irritating that such a simple system is not being made available in a basic form for low tech users and without the flashy front end changes every fortnight. Skype always had a reputation of bringing out improvements that broke it, and it seems this has not stopped with Microsoft owning it, sadly. So what else is out there for desktop machines for good quality audio over the internet free? Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 8:31 PM Subject: [nvda] end of the line for nvda skype group Hi all of you.
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Re: Important notice about upcoming Windows 10 App Essentials 18.06/18.05.3: provisions to support NVDA 2018.2 RC
Ok Joseph thanks for the explanation. Nikos
On Thu, 7 Jun 2018 at 09:03, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
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Re: Important notice about upcoming Windows 10 App Essentials 18.06/18.05.3: provisions to support NVDA 2018.2 RC
Hi, Yes, it is the correct behavior. This is because the only thing configurable is add-on update facility with an update check button, which is out of place in a multi-category settings (for both aesthetic and technical reasons). Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nikos Demetriou via Groups.Io
Hi. I am running 18.06 with the latest nvda master snapshot. I am trying to make sure if things work as expected. I had the impression that from now on we would find the addon settings, in the main settings dialogue of nvda. But still windows 10 app essentials appear as a separate item in the preference menu. Is this the correct behaviour? Thanks Nikos
On Wed, 6 Jun 2018 at 19:13, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
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