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Re: Windows 10 Essentials Error on Stable Channel

 

Hi,
I see. Which version of Windows 10 App Essentials do you have?
Technical: the regular expression used to locate version metadata isn't working for this user. If one is using 18.05.x series, chances are that the URL for the add-on download package isn't recognized. I'll do something about this for 18.09 release (around Labor Day weekend in the United States). Prior to that, one workaround is to visit the add-ons website and download the latest stable version (18.08.1).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Wells
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 12:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Essentials Error on Stable Channel

Here ya go Joseph!


INFO - __main__ (13:48:23.391):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (13:48:23.642):
Config dir: C:\Users\richw\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (13:48:23.642):
Loading config: C:\Users\richw\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (13:48:23.674):
NVDA version 2018.2.1
INFO - core.main (13:48:23.674):
Using Windows version 10.0.17134 workstation INFO - core.main (13:48:23.674):
Using Python version 2.7.15 (v2.7.15:ca079a3ea3, Apr 30 2018, 16:22:17) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (13:48:23.674):
Using comtypes version 1.1.3
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (13:48:24.676):
Loaded synthDriver eloquence
INFO - core.main (13:48:24.676):
Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (13:48:24.676):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (13:48:24.676):
Using liblouis version 3.5.0
ERROR - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (13:48:24.686):
Error initializing display driver
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "braille.pyo", line 1595, in setDisplayByName
File "brailleDisplayDrivers\baum.pyo", line 223, in __init__
RuntimeError: No Baum display found
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (13:48:24.686):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (13:48:24.776):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation5
INFO - core.main (13:48:25.671):
NVDA initialized
ERROR - external:globalPlugins.wintenObjs.w10config.addonUpdateCheck
(13:48:36.786):
Error checking for update
Traceback (most recent call last):
File
"C:\Users\richw\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\wintenApps\globalPlugins\wintenObjs\w10config.py",
line 111, in addonUpdateCheck
File
"C:\Users\richw\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\wintenApps\globalPlugins\wintenObjs\w10config.py",
line 101, in checkForAddonUpdate
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'groupdict'
ERROR - external:globalPlugins.wintenObjs.w10config.addonUpdateCheck
(14:37:44.476):
Error checking for update
Traceback (most recent call last):
File
"C:\Users\richw\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\wintenApps\globalPlugins\wintenObjs\w10config.py",
line 111, in addonUpdateCheck
File
"C:\Users\richw\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\wintenApps\globalPlugins\wintenObjs\w10config.py",
line 101, in checkForAddonUpdate
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'groupdict'
INFO - inputCore.InputManager._handleInputHelp (14:37:52.584):
Input help: gesture kb(desktop):NVDA
INFO - inputCore.InputManager._handleInputHelp (14:37:52.740):
Input help: gesture kb(desktop):NVDA+1, bound to script toggleInputHelp on globalCommands.GlobalCommands INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo
(14:37:54.292):
Developer info for navigator object:
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role: ROLE_DOCUMENT
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On 8/13/2018 9:55 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
When the failure occurs, press NVDA+F1 to open the log viewer. Then copy and paste either the last error traceback paragraph or the entire content (in this case, full content might be helpful).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Wells
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 6:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Essentials Error on Stable Channel

Joseph: It fails reliably. Where do I get the log? I know this has been covered on this list, but I can't find the thread.


On 8/12/2018 9:54 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
If a second check for update fails, send me a log so we can find out what's happening.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Wells
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2018 6:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Essentials Error on Stable Channel

I meant to write Windows 10 App Essentials.


On 8/12/2018 6:23 PM, Isaac wrote:
what is Windows 10 Essentials?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Wells"
<richwels@gmx.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2018 6:18 PM
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 Essentials Error on Stable Channel


When I check for updates from preferences on Windows 10 Essentials,
I get the following: Error checking for update. This is running
NonVisual Desktop Access (NVDA)Version: 2018.2.1 and checking on
the stable channel combo box.











Re: Windows 10 Essentials Error on Stable Channel

Richard Wells
 

Here ya go Joseph!


INFO - __main__ (13:48:23.391):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (13:48:23.642):
Config dir: C:\Users\richw\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (13:48:23.642):
Loading config: C:\Users\richw\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (13:48:23.674):
NVDA version 2018.2.1
INFO - core.main (13:48:23.674):
Using Windows version 10.0.17134 workstation
INFO - core.main (13:48:23.674):
Using Python version 2.7.15 (v2.7.15:ca079a3ea3, Apr 30 2018, 16:22:17) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (13:48:23.674):
Using comtypes version 1.1.3
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (13:48:24.676):
Loaded synthDriver eloquence
INFO - core.main (13:48:24.676):
Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (13:48:24.676):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (13:48:24.676):
Using liblouis version 3.5.0
ERROR - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (13:48:24.686):
Error initializing display driver
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "braille.pyo", line 1595, in setDisplayByName
  File "brailleDisplayDrivers\baum.pyo", line 223, in __init__
RuntimeError: No Baum display found
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (13:48:24.686):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (13:48:24.776):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation5
INFO - core.main (13:48:25.671):
NVDA initialized
ERROR - external:globalPlugins.wintenObjs.w10config.addonUpdateCheck (13:48:36.786):
Error checking for update
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Users\richw\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\wintenApps\globalPlugins\wintenObjs\w10config.py", line 111, in addonUpdateCheck
  File "C:\Users\richw\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\wintenApps\globalPlugins\wintenObjs\w10config.py", line 101, in checkForAddonUpdate
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'groupdict'
ERROR - external:globalPlugins.wintenObjs.w10config.addonUpdateCheck (14:37:44.476):
Error checking for update
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Users\richw\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\wintenApps\globalPlugins\wintenObjs\w10config.py", line 111, in addonUpdateCheck
  File "C:\Users\richw\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\wintenApps\globalPlugins\wintenObjs\w10config.py", line 101, in checkForAddonUpdate
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'groupdict'
INFO - inputCore.InputManager._handleInputHelp (14:37:52.584):
Input help: gesture kb(desktop):NVDA
INFO - inputCore.InputManager._handleInputHelp (14:37:52.740):
Input help: gesture kb(desktop):NVDA+1, bound to script toggleInputHelp on globalCommands.GlobalCommands
INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo (14:37:54.292):
Developer info for navigator object:
name: u'Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Essentials Error on Stable Channel'
role: ROLE_DOCUMENT
states: STATE_READONLY, STATE_FOCUSABLE, STATE_FOCUSED
isFocusable: True
hasFocus: True
Python object: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_BrokenFocusedStateDocumentMozillaIAccessible object at 0x051A48B0>
Python class mro: (<class 'NVDAObjects.Dynamic_BrokenFocusedStateDocumentMozillaIAccessible'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.mozilla.BrokenFocusedState'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.mozilla.Document'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.mozilla.Mozilla'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.ia2Web.Document'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.ia2Web.Ia2Web'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class 'documentBase.TextContainerObject'>, <class 'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)
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location: (0, 195, 1894, 792)
value: None
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appModule.productName: u'Thunderbird'
appModule.productVersion: u'52.9.1'
TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IA2TextTextInfo'>
windowHandle: 1704946L
windowClassName: u'MozillaWindowClass'
windowControlID: 0
windowStyle: 399441920
windowThreadID: 10832
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displayText: u''
IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible2) ptr=0x6c105c at 52a14e0>
IAccessibleChildID: 0
IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=1704946, objectID=-4, childID=-2012
IAccessible accName: u'Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Essentials Error on Stable Channel'
IAccessible accRole: ROLE_SYSTEM_DOCUMENT
IAccessible accState: STATE_SYSTEM_READONLY, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSED, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_VALID (1048644)
IAccessible accDescription: u''
IAccessible accValue: u'imap://richwels%40gmx%2Ecom@imap.gmx.com:993/fetch%3EUID%3E/INBOX%3E6006'
IAccessible2 windowHandle: 1704946
IAccessible2 uniqueID: -2012
IAccessible2 role: ROLE_SYSTEM_DOCUMENT
IAccessible2 states: IA2_STATE_OPAQUE (1024)
IAccessible2 attributes: u'margin-left:8px;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;margin-right:8px;tag:body;margin-top:8px;margin-bottom:8px;display:block;explicit-name:true;'

On 8/13/2018 9:55 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
When the failure occurs, press NVDA+F1 to open the log viewer. Then copy and paste either the last error traceback paragraph or the entire content (in this case, full content might be helpful).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Wells
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 6:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Essentials Error on Stable Channel

Joseph: It fails reliably. Where do I get the log? I know this has been covered on this list, but I can't find the thread.


On 8/12/2018 9:54 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
If a second check for update fails, send me a log so we can find out what's happening.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Wells
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2018 6:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Essentials Error on Stable Channel

I meant to write Windows 10 App Essentials.


On 8/12/2018 6:23 PM, Isaac wrote:
what is Windows 10 Essentials?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Wells" <richwels@gmx.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2018 6:18 PM
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 Essentials Error on Stable Channel


When I check for updates from preferences on Windows 10 Essentials, I
get the following: Error checking for update. This is running
NonVisual Desktop Access (NVDA)Version: 2018.2.1 and checking on the
stable channel combo box.










Re: [SUSPECT URL!]Re: [nvda] Need to speed up Slow voice on Windows start-up

Gene
 

Testing using Narrator might not tell you useful information in this case.  I'm sure you can turn off Narrator's start at bootup option if it is on, but aside from that, my point is that you can test this problem and still have speech.  Test with JAWS and then test with NVDA or in reverse order if you wish.  Or make sure you can, in fact, log in without speech first by trying it with the screen-reader running and making sure you know the exact procedure.
 
Specifics aside, my general point is that you shouldn't test without speech unless such testing is necessary and that, if you do so, you should be sure you know how to do necessary actions without speech, such as in this case, log in.  Or you should make sure you can run Narrator if necessary on the login screen.  In other words, something to make sure you aren't locked out of your computer because you can't log in.  When testing something else, if you need to take a critical action without speech, you should know exactly how.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: [SUSPECT URL!]Re: [nvda] Need to speed up Slow voice on Windows start-up

I would have been worried that invoking Narrator at the login screen would have left Narrator going at subsequent logins, thus causing the same problem.

Glenn

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 12:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [SUSPECT URL!]Re: [nvda] Need to speed up Slow voice on Windows start-up

 

I'll look at the original message again.  but I commented because of this passage in your original message:

When I restarted I was then blind” audially! However, I took a chance and typed my password in in the usual way and got back to the desktop in silence.

 

This sounds as though you didn't know if you could enter your password without speech.  for that reason, I tried to think of other ways to test what you were testing.  At this point, without looking at the original message again, I'm not sure if my suggestion of how to test fit what you were doing.  But my whole point is that if there is a way to test without losing accessibility, unless you are sure you can do something without speech, it is far better to keep accessibility if that means you may not be able to do something critical such as sign in.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 11:54 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Need to speed up Slow voice on Windows start-up

 

Gene,

 

You are mistaken, if you read my description again, you will see that indeed both the JAWS and the NVDA settings were on. This duplication is what was being tested.  The loss of accessibility was a risk, as you rightly say.  However, my experience has demonstrated that there is only one edit box in the start-up screen and it was only necessary to put the password in in the usual way that it had been done before to get into the full Windows session.

 

This could not have been tested if the NVDA switch was left active. The silence itself was the test.

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 4:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need to speed up Slow voice on Windows start-up

 

The point is that the speech on bootup setting in the Ease of Access Center was turned off and the effect of that was being tested.  The person booted up without speech and he said that, luckily, he was able to enter his password.  What if he hadn't been able to, something he didn't know.  If you trouble shoot, if you are testing something that doesn't require a loss of accessibility, you should take steps to retain accessibility.  In this case, NVDA could have been told to run at boot up and nothing would have been lost in the trouble shooting that was being done.

 

The NVDA setting wasn't being tested, it hadn't been on.  the incorrect setting for what was desired had been on in the Ease of Access Center.  The desired setting could have been turned on with no loss of accessibility and no impairment of the test being done.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Vogel

Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 9:57 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Need to speed up Slow voice on Windows start-up

 

On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 08:45 AM, Gene wrote:

Why not enable NVdA before rebooting after turning the setting off in the ease of access center?

It strikes me that troubleshooting steps were being described in detail, not the final and permanent state of affairs.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: How to configure Switch Synth?

Diana Kwok
 

Thanks Larry J.  I don’t think we’ll go for Vocalizer Expressive just yet…

Best,

Diana.

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Larry Wang <larry.wang.801@...>
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 4:42:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to configure Switch Synth?

 

Hi Diana,

If you use vocalizer expressive , just enable Detect text language based on unicode characters (experimental)  check box  in  Vocalizer Expressive  sub Menu  -> Automatic Language Switching Settings. Then set voices for English and Chinese ..

 

On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 5:16 PM, Diana Kwok <dkwok2017@...> wrote:

Hi Larry & Jacob,

Thanks for your instructions and patience.

 

Still no luck unfortunately. I do have Automatic-language-switching turned on. I tried to set-up 3 voices for 3 different slots. This works fine each time. However, after each voice set-up, everything is read out in that new voice and in English (including the desktop). Webpages in English are read by the new voice but no Chinese text on webpages in Chinese are read. It seems that only 1 voice is ‘active’ each time.

 

My Mum may have to do with NVDA reading in English only. Plus I live a long way away and have less than 48 hours left here…

 

Best wishes,

 

Diana.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 6:21 PM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to configure Switch Synth?

 

Bear in mind that you will want to do something like activate a speech slot, then make changes to voice output settings, before then saving those settings for later use.

 

For example, I would press NVDA + ctrl + shift + 1, then use nvda + ctrl + s to bring up synthesizer dialogue, make a choice, and then use nvda + ctrl + v to bring up the voice settings, make a choice, and voice setting changes, and then hit nvda + ctrl + shift + v to save the current settings to the previously selected slot.

 

You would then repeat these steps, choosing a different slot each time, to have multiple switch synth combinations available/configured.

 

And, while it may suit some people, I will mention that one of the reasons I leave any form of automatic language switching turned off is since web developers don't always pay attention to what they should have set a web-page's underlying language to, and, that's one of the triggers that something like that would react to...<smile>

 

Stay well

 

Jacob Kruger
082 413 4791
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 8/10/2018 12:02 PM, Larry Wang wrote:

Hi Diana,

Preferred settings means the synth settings you need to switch between.To configure speech settings, open NVDA menu and go to Preferences -> Settings... -> Speech. If your mum needs automatic switching between English and Mandarin ,try vocalizer expressive on https://vocalizer-nvda.com/

As for OCR ,add a Chinese keyboard layout in Windows language settings and Windows will download data for Chinese OCR and install it. It may take a few minutes.

 

On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 12:46 AM, Diana Kwok <dkwok2017@...> wrote:

Hi Larry,

Yes, the add-on is loaded and enabled ok. And I hear “three” with Ctrl+Shift+NVDA+3, “four” with Ctrl+Shift+NVDA+4, “five” and “six”. I don’t see where to configure Preferred setting though.

 

BTW in Settings / Windows 10 OCR, the Recognition language is English but there’s an option for Chinese.

 

Thanks for your help!

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Wang
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 7:13 PM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to configure Switch Synth?

 

Hi Diana,

Is this addon enabled and loaded successfully? If so.

After pressing NVDA+Ctrl+Shift+3  if the slot is empty ,you will hear three. Then you can config a preferd setting.Press NVDA+Ctrl+Shift+V ,you will hear "Saved".Repeat this procedure on other slots  then  synth setting will be switched to corresponding slot after press certain hotkey.

 

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Diana Kwok <dkwok2017@...> wrote:

Hi Larry,

Thanks for your reply.

 

I can’t switch to a slot to configure synth settings. Ctrl+Shift+NVDA+1 does nothing, nor Ctrl+Shift+NVDA+2 to Ctrl+Shift+NVDA+6. I tried this in the Add-ons Manager, same thing. Any other suggestions?

 

Will bookmark nvdacn.com for my mum (I don’t read Chinese).

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Wang
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 9:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to configure Switch Synth?

 

Hi Diana,

Its documentation is quite straightforward.Switch to a slot.Configure synth settings. Press NVDA+Ctrl+Shift+V to save. 

You can also go to nvdacn.com for more Mandarin related contents.

 

 

On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 9:42 PM, Diana Kwok <dkwok2017@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

I am new to NVDA. It looks like a great tool for my mum who is in her 70s and losing her sight. She is bilingual (English-Mandarin) and I have installed Switch Synth 1.02 (https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/switchSynth.en.html) together with NVDA on her pc.

 

Can anyone help with configuration instructions?

 

Thank you.

 

Diana Kwok.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: [SUSPECT URL!]Re: [nvda] Need to speed up Slow voice on Windows start-up

Ervin, Glenn
 

I would have been worried that invoking Narrator at the login screen would have left Narrator going at subsequent logins, thus causing the same problem.

Glenn

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 12:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [SUSPECT URL!]Re: [nvda] Need to speed up Slow voice on Windows start-up

 

I'll look at the original message again.  but I commented because of this passage in your original message:

When I restarted I was then blind” audially! However, I took a chance and typed my password in in the usual way and got back to the desktop in silence.

 

This sounds as though you didn't know if you could enter your password without speech.  for that reason, I tried to think of other ways to test what you were testing.  At this point, without looking at the original message again, I'm not sure if my suggestion of how to test fit what you were doing.  But my whole point is that if there is a way to test without losing accessibility, unless you are sure you can do something without speech, it is far better to keep accessibility if that means you may not be able to do something critical such as sign in.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 11:54 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Need to speed up Slow voice on Windows start-up

 

Gene,

 

You are mistaken, if you read my description again, you will see that indeed both the JAWS and the NVDA settings were on. This duplication is what was being tested.  The loss of accessibility was a risk, as you rightly say.  However, my experience has demonstrated that there is only one edit box in the start-up screen and it was only necessary to put the password in in the usual way that it had been done before to get into the full Windows session.

 

This could not have been tested if the NVDA switch was left active. The silence itself was the test.

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 4:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need to speed up Slow voice on Windows start-up

 

The point is that the speech on bootup setting in the Ease of Access Center was turned off and the effect of that was being tested.  The person booted up without speech and he said that, luckily, he was able to enter his password.  What if he hadn't been able to, something he didn't know.  If you trouble shoot, if you are testing something that doesn't require a loss of accessibility, you should take steps to retain accessibility.  In this case, NVDA could have been told to run at boot up and nothing would have been lost in the trouble shooting that was being done.

 

The NVDA setting wasn't being tested, it hadn't been on.  the incorrect setting for what was desired had been on in the Ease of Access Center.  The desired setting could have been turned on with no loss of accessibility and no impairment of the test being done.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Vogel

Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 9:57 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Need to speed up Slow voice on Windows start-up

 

On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 08:45 AM, Gene wrote:

Why not enable NVdA before rebooting after turning the setting off in the ease of access center?

It strikes me that troubleshooting steps were being described in detail, not the final and permanent state of affairs.
 
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Re: [nvda-addons] Ping Joseph.

 

Hi,
I'm thinking the add-on update state file used by this add-on might have
become corrupt. I'll try my best to come up with a fix as part of the next
release.
Cheers,
Joseph

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On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 1:40 AM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io; nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda-addons] Ping Joseph.

Hi a number of people on the nvda list myself included have had problems
with putting the add on updater on installed copies of the latest beta of
nvda. The eof error happens and its as if the add on is not there.
However I just set up a portable version of the same snap and it installs
there with no issues, likewise on portable versions of alpha and the stable
release of nvda.
Is there something different about an installed copy, or do we all have
some kind of corruption that causes this effect. I've tried changing add ons
around but the effect remains the same, so I'm reasonably sure its not an
add on that is causing the issue, as now my alpha portable and the beta
installed have exactly the same add ons and versions but the installed beta
still has the error at start up or install and is thus not working.

Brian

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Re: Windows 10 Essentials Error on Stable Channel

 

Hi,
When the failure occurs, press NVDA+F1 to open the log viewer. Then copy and paste either the last error traceback paragraph or the entire content (in this case, full content might be helpful).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Wells
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 6:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Essentials Error on Stable Channel

Joseph: It fails reliably. Where do I get the log? I know this has been covered on this list, but I can't find the thread.


On 8/12/2018 9:54 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
If a second check for update fails, send me a log so we can find out what's happening.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Wells
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2018 6:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Essentials Error on Stable Channel

I meant to write Windows 10 App Essentials.


On 8/12/2018 6:23 PM, Isaac wrote:
what is Windows 10 Essentials?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Wells" <richwels@gmx.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2018 6:18 PM
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 Essentials Error on Stable Channel


When I check for updates from preferences on Windows 10 Essentials, I
get the following: Error checking for update. This is running
NonVisual Desktop Access (NVDA)Version: 2018.2.1 and checking on the
stable channel combo box.









Re: [SUSPECT URL!]Re: [nvda] Need to speed up Slow voice on Windows start-up

Ervin, Glenn
 

Thanks for notifying the list.

It will possibly help someone in the future, when searching for a solution.

Messages from a list show up on web searches, which is how I often resolve computer conundrums.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 5:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [SUSPECT URL!]Re: [nvda] Need to speed up Slow voice on Windows start-up

 

Chris, Brian, Sarah,

 

I found the source of the problem!

 

In the Ease of Access settings I had enabled both Jaws and NVDA to speak on the sign-in screen. JAWS was first, so I suppose it took control of the dialog. I found the miserable voice in the JAWS voice settings where MS SAPI 5 was set to a rate of 50 using David, which turned out to be the very voice that I was searching for. Anyway, there was no point in having two screen readers speak on the sign-in screen so I turned them both off. When I restarted I was then blind audially! However, I took a chance and typed my password in in the usual way and got back to the desktop in silence. I then went to NVDA and found that the start NVDA in the start-up window was now turned off I presume that this was as a result of changing the setting in the Ease of Access setting. I enabled NVDA alone at sign-up and now NVDA has control of the start-up screen with Eloquence speaking!

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 7:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need to speed up Slow voice on Windows start-up

 

On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 01:24 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Try going to settings, then region and language , then the voice you want then adjust the rate of speech.

You mean Settings, Time & Language, then, depending on what you really intend to do:

1.  Region & Language Pane.   Use this pane if you wish to change the base speech rate for all voices in a given language pack.  You generally only need/want to do this if you have installed multiple languages or multiple dialects (e.g., US, UK, Australian, Canadian English) for a single language.  If this is the case, you then have to pick the Language under Preferred Languages for which you wish to change the default base speech rate used by Windows 10 itself, "activate it" [for me, a left mouse click] such that its Options button appears, then activate that.  Under the dialog that then pops up there is an area entitled "Speech" with a link Settings, which you have to activate.  Then there's a slider in that dialog for Rate.

2.  Speech Pane.  This allows you to tweak base rate for individual voices within a language pack or across language packs without changing them all.  There is a section entitled "Text to Speech" under which is a dropdown allowing you to pick the voice you want and once you have that there is a slider for Speed.  After you tweak the slider there is a "Preview" button to let you hear a sample of what your choice will sound like.

Of course, programs that use speech synthesis as part and parcel of their functioning generally allow rate tweaking from within their own settings, too.
 
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Re: The Way NVDA Announces Punctuation As I Type

Gene
 

You have been talking about what happens when you type.  Now, you appear to be talking about how punctuation is being read when you actually read text.  Aside from differences in typing echo, are you talking about other differences?
 
Gene
----- Original Messsage -----

From: Wilco
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] The Way NVDA Announces Punctuation As I Type

Hi All. Thanks for all your help on this. I have a decent understanding of the situation now. As a writer by profession, the way my screenreader speaks to me as I type is really important, so things like the apostrophe issue can really interrupt my workflow and make the sentence I am putting together sound really odd. Likewise, the way the screenreader reads documents in Say All is also pretty crucial since it can make my copy sound really fluid if read well, or conversely, it can make good prose sound terrible if not read properly. I’m trying to get used to how NVDA handles commas at the moment for example, because it does make my work sound completely different to how it does when read with JAWS.

 

Thanks for all your help though.


Re: Windows 10 Essentials Error on Stable Channel

Richard Wells
 

Joseph: It fails reliably. Where do I get the log? I know this has been covered on this list, but I can't find the thread.

On 8/12/2018 9:54 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
If a second check for update fails, send me a log so we can find out what's happening.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Wells
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2018 6:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Essentials Error on Stable Channel

I meant to write Windows 10 App Essentials.


On 8/12/2018 6:23 PM, Isaac wrote:
what is Windows 10 Essentials?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Wells" <richwels@gmx.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2018 6:18 PM
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 Essentials Error on Stable Channel


When I check for updates from preferences on Windows 10 Essentials, I
get the following: Error checking for update. This is running
NonVisual Desktop Access (NVDA)Version: 2018.2.1 and checking on the
stable channel combo box.








Re: The Way NVDA Announces Punctuation As I Type

Wilco
 

Hi All. Thanks for all your help on this. I have a decent understanding of the situation now. As a writer by profession, the way my screenreader speaks to me as I type is really important, so things like the apostrophe issue can really interrupt my workflow and make the sentence I am putting together sound really odd. Likewise, the way the screenreader reads documents in Say All is also pretty crucial since it can make my copy sound really fluid if read well, or conversely, it can make good prose sound terrible if not read properly. I’m trying to get used to how NVDA handles commas at the moment for example, because it does make my work sound completely different to how it does when read with JAWS.

 

Thanks for all your help though.


Re: List of Annotations in Word

Rick
 

Hello Quentin:

 

Thanks for your explanation. I was trying to find a common thread before mentioning this problem. Has it been considered to split the annotations into 2 separate panes, one for only comments and another for insertions and deletions (my preference)? This might make each faster. I think this is how WindowEyes did it in the past. Also, what about producing the partial results after the 20 seconds. Something is often better than nothing. The only issue here is how to announce that the results are incomplete.

 

Whatever you do, don’t go to the separate keystrokes for each type like in Jaws. I can never remember all the different keystrokes. I like the single dialog with multiple choices.

 

Also, is there a way to select the default view. While some people might prefer links as the default, since I mainly work with reviewing, I much prefer annotations as the default when first invoking the elements dialog.

 

Rick

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 9:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] List of Annotations in Word

 

Hi Kelby,

 

It is an issue we are aware of.  The issue and associated conversation are at: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6297

 

Basically NVDA gives the process 20 seconds to run and if it hasn't finished in that time, it cancels it so that the user isn't left with an unresponsive system for too long.  We're looking into how we can improve that.

 

Word's reviewing pane lists all the track changes etc.  You can get to that from the reviewing pane, and the easy, quick and logical shortcut* to get to it is alt+r, z, t, t, p, enter

 

If you want to "clear" track changes so you can just see comments etc, you can press ALT+r, a, 2, s to accept all tracked changes and turn off tracking.

 

*Shortcut may or may not be easy, quick or logical

 

Quentin.

 

On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 7:09 AM, kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@...> wrote:

When I am in a Word document with a lot of annotations and press NVDA+F7, then check the radio buttons for "annotations" nothing shows up in the list. Is there a way to fix this?





 

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Re: how to start a connectgion with remote Addon?

Chris Mullins
 

Hi
Download and install the remote add-on on both your own and your client's machines, then view the attached help file via theManage add-ons dialog. The different methods of connecting are described there.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Sent: 13 August 2018 01:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] how to start a connectgion with remote Addon?

Hi all. I need to be connecting to a client's desktop with NVDA soon.
How can I establish the address of the client's computer for me to
connect to? Should I ask him to ping his IP address and use that as the
cooection or is there another way? Cheers!


Re: Screen Curtain August 7th build: to go live in halfanhour, website entry will return at the same time

Nika Tsiklauri
 

Hello! How to assign the gesture to the screen curtain?
thanks,
Nick.


Re: problem with addon updater

Clare Page <clare.page@...>
 

Hi !

It isn’t just in alpha and beta snapshots of NVDA that this problem with Add-On Updater occurs: I have had it twice using the latest full version of NVDA, 2018.2.1, on a Windows 7 computer.

I had already had that problem when I installed Add-On Updater 18.08.4, but at the time, having read that it was a patch to get rid of a bug in 18.08.3 which I had never installed, I thought maybe skipping versions might be to blame; When I read on this list about the release of Add-On Updater 18.08.5, I did a clean install of that version, and I still don’t have Check For Updates in my NVDA Tools menu, nor anything to do with the add-on updater in my NVDA settings.

It’s interesting that only a few of us have this bug. Does this add-on only work for Windows 8 or Windows 10? Or is there something else causing this problem, Thanks in advance for any possible theories in answer to these questions.

Bye for now!

From Clare

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: dimanche 12 août 2018 10:18
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with addon updater

 

Yes, I am getting the same results!

Updater works great with alpha snapshots, but not with beta!

David Moore

 

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From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2018 3:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with addon updater

 

I'm in the same position with it on the beta 2 version installed, yet alpha

snaps are working as portable and the add on is OK there. Look at the errors

I posted on the add ons list. It seems to be the eof error that is doing it.

I cannot see any difference between the add ons on both systems, so unless

the beta of nvda latest version is somehow different. I have had to turn it

off as all I get otherwise is an error on nvda start up and no menu option.

Could there be some remnant of something left that its seeing as a file it

needs to scan?

Brian

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 10:46 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with addon updater

 

 

> Hi,

> Which NVDA version do you have? If it is 2018.2, chances are that it might

> be something going wrong when the add-on starts, or somehow the

> installation

> has become corrupt.

> Cheers,

> Joseph

> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Darren Harris

> via Groups.Io

> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 2:29 PM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: [nvda] problem with addon updater

> Hi,

> I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling addon updater. I can't get the

> check for updates option to show up at all.

>

>

 

 

 

 


Ping Joseph.

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Hi a number of people on the nvda list myself included have had problems with putting the add on updater on installed copies of the latest beta of nvda. The eof error happens and its as if the add on is not there.
However I just set up a portable version of the same snap and it installs there with no issues, likewise on portable versions of alpha and the stable release of nvda.
Is there something different about an installed copy, or do we all have some kind of corruption that causes this effect. I've tried changing add ons around but the effect remains the same, so I'm reasonably sure its not an add on that is causing the issue, as now my alpha portable and the beta installed have exactly the same add ons and versions but the installed beta still has the error at start up or install and is thus not working.

Brian

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Re: how to start a connectgion with remote Addon?

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They are talking about the add on for nvda called nvda remote which is directly for the purpose of interconnecting two computers with nvda on them.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Diana Kwok" <dkwok2017@outlook.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 6:43 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to start a connectgion with remote Addon?


Hi,
How about TeamViewer? However, I'm not sure how it would work with NVDA.
Cheers,
Diana.

________________________________
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Richard Wells <richwels@gmx.com>
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 9:18:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to start a connectgion with remote Addon?

It is better for both of you to connect to nvdaremote.com and choose
your pass key either manually or letting the server choose one.


On 8/12/2018 7:38 PM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:
Hi all. I need to be connecting to a client's desktop with NVDA soon.
How can I establish the address of the client's computer for me to
connect to? Should I ask him to ping his IP address and use that as
the cooection or is there another way? Cheers!




Re: how to start a connectgion with remote Addon?

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Yes its secure this way. Not done it lately myself though.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 2:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to start a connectgion with remote Addon?


It is better for both of you to connect to nvdaremote.com and choose your pass key either manually or letting the server choose one.


On 8/12/2018 7:38 PM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:
Hi all. I need to be connecting to a client's desktop with NVDA soon. How can I establish the address of the client's computer for me to connect to? Should I ask him to ping his IP address and use that as the cooection or is there another way? Cheers!




Re: Help w/a log fragment, please

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OK since we do not know what the actual effect of this was other than a slugging of the nvda operation, and do not know hat it was, its a bit hard to comment, but that has never stopped me before!
Seriously, though, in case others do have this, it would be nice if you told the masses for anyone else in the future to learn from.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jackie" <abletec@gmail.com>
To: "nvda" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2018 11:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Help w/a log fragment, please


Well, never mind. I think I see what the problem is, though I'm not
sure how it happened.

On 8/12/18, Jackie <abletec@gmail.com> wrote:
I know something's amiss here, but I am uncertain as to what. Any
hints apreciated. W/much thanks, as always.

www.holenews.orgINFO - __main__ (16:20:19.257):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (16:20:20.038):
Config dir: C:\Users\LLOYDM~1\AppData\Local\Temp\nslA4CD.tmp\app\userConfig
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (16:20:20.039):
Loading config: .\userConfig\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (16:20:20.250):
NVDA version 2018.2.1
INFO - core.main (16:20:20.250):
Using Windows version 10.0.17134 workstation
INFO - core.main (16:20:20.250):
Using Python version 2.7.15 (v2.7.15:ca079a3ea3, Apr 30 2018,
16:22:17) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (16:20:20.250):
Using comtypes version 1.1.3
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (16:20:23.543):
Loaded synthDriver oneCore
INFO - core.main (16:20:23.545):
Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (16:20:23.558):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (16:20:23.559):
Using liblouis version 3.5.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (16:20:23.561):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
WARNING - core.main (16:20:23.709):
Java Access Bridge not available
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (16:20:23.732):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation5
INFO - core.main (16:20:25.966):
NVDA initialized
WARNING - watchdog._watcher (16:21:01.581):
Core frozen in stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 212, in <module>
File "core.pyo", line 473, in main
File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop
File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop
File "core.pyo", line 445, in Notify
File "mouseHandler.pyo", line 219, in pumpAll
File "mouseHandler.pyo", line 175, in executeMouseMoveEvent
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 262, in objectFromPoint
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 202, in findBestAPIClass
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 201, in findBestAPIClass
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 340, in kwargsFromSuper
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 347, in accessibleObjectFromPoint
File "oleacc.pyo", line 275, in AccessibleObjectFromPoint
File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 524, in onActivate
File "wx\_windows.pyo", line 2849, in PopupMenu


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Re: Microsoft Word 2016 stop working.

Daniele Casarola
 

Thank you Pranav for your reply.

It was a test tried together with Microsoft Office support, but both hardware acceleration active or not, the problem appears anyway.
This is the graphic card installed on the desktop pc:
MSI GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB aero Itx Ocv1