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Re: Need to speed up Slow voice on Windows start-up

 

On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 04:53 PM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
It looks to me as though we are all caught at the same unexplained position!
I concur.   Until it's known what, exactly, is in control of the text to speech at that point in time we've got nowhere definite to start or look.

I know that there is free Microsoft Accessibility support available here in the USA.  If this is also available to you from Ireland I would definitely engage their services, given where in the start up process the issue is occurring.

Just as an aside, as I have seen some very weird problems occur secondary to the hibernation file used by Fast Startup developing corruption, do you have Fast Startup turned OFF?   If not, definitely turn it off or, if you prefer not to do so, do a Restart rather than a Shut Down as that should force Windows 10 to reload from scratch from disc.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: Need to speed up Slow voice on Windows start-up

Sarah k Alawami
 

Yeah that. I keep forgetting the setting. It’s odd and I just can’t get that to click. Anyway yeah, that. Lol
!

On 10 Aug 2018, at 11:40, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 01:24 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Try going to settings, then region and language , then the voice you want then adjust the rate of speech.
You mean Settings, Time & Language, then, depending on what you really intend to do:

1.  Region & Language Pane.   Use this pane if you wish to change the base speech rate for all voices in a given language pack.  You generally only need/want to do this if you have installed multiple languages or multiple dialects (e.g., US, UK, Australian, Canadian English) for a single language.  If this is the case, you then have to pick the Language under Preferred Languages for which you wish to change the default base speech rate used by Windows 10 itself, "activate it" [for me, a left mouse click] such that its Options button appears, then activate that.  Under the dialog that then pops up there is an area entitled "Speech" with a link Settings, which you have to activate.  Then there's a slider in that dialog for Rate.

2.  Speech Pane.  This allows you to tweak base rate for individual voices within a language pack or across language packs without changing them all.  There is a section entitled "Text to Speech" under which is a dropdown allowing you to pick the voice you want and once you have that there is a slider for Speed.  After you tweak the slider there is a "Preview" button to let you hear a sample of what your choice will sound like.

Of course, programs that use speech synthesis as part and parcel of their functioning generally allow rate tweaking from within their own settings, too.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: How to click on links when they won't click

Scott VanDeWalle
 

I know I do not have viruses, at least windows defender says things are fine.

So, who knows.

I’ll keep trying.

 

Scott

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 6:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

You said you are having increasing problems with links not working.  I'm not just pursuing the question for this site.  You may have a more general problem.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 5:30 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

Hi Gene, maybe I should just forget it.

Thank you very much for the help..

 

Scott

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 6:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

Are you using any popup blockers or ad blockers or noscript or anything that may be causing this problem?  If the site is coded so unconventionally, as Brian says, who knows what is causing the problem. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 5:25 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

Yes I tried turning off browse mode and then clicking, no luck, however I notice the links say visited link, so I find that strange also.

Take care

Scott

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 5:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

I'm beginning to wonder if there is a problem with your system, I don't know what it might be.  Did you do the test of turning off browse mode and clicking links?  We need to determine if this is a UIA problem or something else. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 4:50 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

Hmmm, that is strange.  I’ve used both chrome and firefox. 

Scott

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 4:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

What browser are you using?  I had no problem clicking on links, including that one and the FAQ link.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 3:25 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

Hello, I’m just trying to click on the get started link so I can sign up for an account.  I guess if all else fails, I will just have to sign up using a mobile app. 

Thank you

 

Scott

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 8:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

Scott,

        The site you list has another twist on the hover over theme but it's not hover over.   That page is, overall, one of the most complex I've encountered in a long time.

         It's difficult to know what to experiment with.  If you have a specific control you'd like for me to explore to start let me know what it is.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Need to speed up Slow voice on Windows start-up

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

`Brian,

 

It was good of you to take the time to reply. Actually, Sarah directed me to the same spot in settings. I followed your steps but, as I said in my original note, I already made the adjustment here and change the male voice to female - just to be sure that I had found the right setting. However, the voice is still a male speaking slowly. All the settings that I can find, including Narrator, had the speed much faster than the voice that is speaking in the password prompt during Start-up!

 

It looks to me as though we are all caught at the same unexplained position!

 

Would you agree?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 7:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need to speed up Slow voice on Windows start-up

 

On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 01:24 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Try going to settings, then region and language , then the voice you want then adjust the rate of speech.

You mean Settings, Time & Language, then, depending on what you really intend to do:

1.  Region & Language Pane.   Use this pane if you wish to change the base speech rate for all voices in a given language pack.  You generally only need/want to do this if you have installed multiple languages or multiple dialects (e.g., US, UK, Australian, Canadian English) for a single language.  If this is the case, you then have to pick the Language under Preferred Languages for which you wish to change the default base speech rate used by Windows 10 itself, "activate it" [for me, a left mouse click] such that its Options button appears, then activate that.  Under the dialog that then pops up there is an area entitled "Speech" with a link Settings, which you have to activate.  Then there's a slider in that dialog for Rate.

2.  Speech Pane.  This allows you to tweak base rate for individual voices within a language pack or across language packs without changing them all.  There is a section entitled "Text to Speech" under which is a dropdown allowing you to pick the voice you want and once you have that there is a slider for Speed.  After you tweak the slider there is a "Preview" button to let you hear a sample of what your choice will sound like.

Of course, programs that use speech synthesis as part and parcel of their functioning generally allow rate tweaking from within their own settings, too.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: Need to speed up Slow voice on Windows start-up

Chris
 

Its a button under nvda general settings

Its labelled as copy my saved settings to login and other secure screens

Just need to press enter on it

 

This is for a installed copy of nvda, if you are using a portable copy of nvda then this option may not be available

 

 

From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: 10 August 2018 19:44
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need to speed up Slow voice on Windows start-up

 

Chris,

 

Thanks for getting back so quickly!

 

I cannot find any command to copy my saved settings to login and other secure screens in settings>general within NVDA. I dont know if I am using NVDA at startup but if so, why is the voice different from Eloquence, which is the only voice that I use in NVDA? To answer this definitively, I would like to complete the action you describe abut I cannot see how to do it since this command does not appear in my settings

 

Can you help?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 5:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need to speed up Slow voice on Windows start-up

 

If you are using nvda on login screen it may well may be that you need to copy the saved settings to the login and other secure screens

 

To copy your currently saved settings over try opening nvda menu then preferences then under general press the button  copy my saved settings to login and other secure screens

 

Let nvda do its thing and then see how is then

 

 

From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: 10 August 2018 17:18
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Need to speed up Slow voice on Windows start-up

 

Hi,

 

Ive been unable to find an answer to this anywhere on the web for some time now, so, I hope someone on the list can advise me what to do.

 

I am running Windows10 Version 1803 (OS Build 17134.165)

with NVDA Version: 2018.2.1

I have Windows speaking the password prompt at bootup. The system is using a completely different voice from the Eloquence that I use in NVDA. That makes me think this is a Windows setting rather than an NVDA setting. I cannot find where the system voice is located or how it is managed so that I can adjust the speaking rate. Any ideas where I can find it and how to adjust the rate?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 

 


Re: Need to speed up Slow voice on Windows start-up

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Sarah,

 

Thank you for coming back so quickly. I did think of this, too! However, the voice being used in settings is not the one that speaks in the password prompt. I changed the voice from male to female to make this completely obvious and still the password prompt was in a male voice! I then tried to see if I am invoking Narrator to cover the start-up prompt but, again, no joy. In fact, the narrator voice is set to full speed so could not be the voice that is operating in the start-up window.

 

Any other thoughts?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 6:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need to speed up Slow voice on Windows start-up

 

Try going to settings, then region and language , then the voice you want then adjust the rate of speech.

On 10 Aug 2018, at 9:18, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Hi,

 

Ive been unable to find an answer to this anywhere on the web for some time now, so, I hope someone on the list can advise me what to do.

 

I am running Windows10 Version 1803 (OS Build 17134.165)

with NVDA Version: 2018.2.1

I have Windows speaking the password prompt at bootup. The system is using a completely different voice from the Eloquence that I use in NVDA. That makes me think this is a Windows setting rather than an NVDA setting. I cannot find where the system voice is located or how it is managed so that I can adjust the speaking rate. Any ideas where I can find it and how to adjust the rate?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 


Re: Need to speed up Slow voice on Windows start-up

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Chris,

 

Thanks for getting back so quickly!

 

I cannot find any command to copy my saved settings to login and other secure screens in settings>general within NVDA. I dont know if I am using NVDA at startup but if so, why is the voice different from Eloquence, which is the only voice that I use in NVDA? To answer this definitively, I would like to complete the action you describe abut I cannot see how to do it since this command does not appear in my settings

 

Can you help?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 5:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need to speed up Slow voice on Windows start-up

 

If you are using nvda on login screen it may well may be that you need to copy the saved settings to the login and other secure screens

 

To copy your currently saved settings over try opening nvda menu then preferences then under general press the button  copy my saved settings to login and other secure screens

 

Let nvda do its thing and then see how is then

 

 

From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: 10 August 2018 17:18
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Need to speed up Slow voice on Windows start-up

 

Hi,

 

Ive been unable to find an answer to this anywhere on the web for some time now, so, I hope someone on the list can advise me what to do.

 

I am running Windows10 Version 1803 (OS Build 17134.165)

with NVDA Version: 2018.2.1

I have Windows speaking the password prompt at bootup. The system is using a completely different voice from the Eloquence that I use in NVDA. That makes me think this is a Windows setting rather than an NVDA setting. I cannot find where the system voice is located or how it is managed so that I can adjust the speaking rate. Any ideas where I can find it and how to adjust the rate?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 


Re: Need to speed up Slow voice on Windows start-up

 

On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 01:24 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Try going to settings, then region and language , then the voice you want then adjust the rate of speech.
You mean Settings, Time & Language, then, depending on what you really intend to do:

1.  Region & Language Pane.   Use this pane if you wish to change the base speech rate for all voices in a given language pack.  You generally only need/want to do this if you have installed multiple languages or multiple dialects (e.g., US, UK, Australian, Canadian English) for a single language.  If this is the case, you then have to pick the Language under Preferred Languages for which you wish to change the default base speech rate used by Windows 10 itself, "activate it" [for me, a left mouse click] such that its Options button appears, then activate that.  Under the dialog that then pops up there is an area entitled "Speech" with a link Settings, which you have to activate.  Then there's a slider in that dialog for Rate.

2.  Speech Pane.  This allows you to tweak base rate for individual voices within a language pack or across language packs without changing them all.  There is a section entitled "Text to Speech" under which is a dropdown allowing you to pick the voice you want and once you have that there is a slider for Speed.  After you tweak the slider there is a "Preview" button to let you hear a sample of what your choice will sound like.

Of course, programs that use speech synthesis as part and parcel of their functioning generally allow rate tweaking from within their own settings, too.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: Screen Curtain

 

Hi,
I'm sorry to say that this add-on won't support Windows XP.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 11:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Screen Curtain

hi.
i wish that it supports windows xp too.

On 8/10/18, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
The API this add-on uses is available on Windows 8 and later. The
person who is in charge of the overall framework (not me) for which
this add-on is a part of is investigating how to bring this feature to Windows 7 users too.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis
Zwicker
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 8:45 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Screen Curtain

Hi!

Why does Screen Curtain only work on win8 and later?

would be cool if it could be made to work under 7.


Greetings


Dennis








--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Screen Curtain

 

hi.
i wish that it supports windows xp too.

On 8/10/18, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
The API this add-on uses is available on Windows 8 and later. The person who
is in charge of the overall framework (not me) for which this add-on is a
part of is investigating how to bring this feature to Windows 7 users too.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis Zwicker
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 8:45 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Screen Curtain

Hi!

Why does Screen Curtain only work on win8 and later?

would be cool if it could be made to work under 7.


Greetings


Dennis







--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Need to speed up Slow voice on Windows start-up

Sarah k Alawami
 

Try going to settings, then region and language , then the voice you want then adjust the rate of speech.

On 10 Aug 2018, at 9:18, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Hi,

 

Ive been unable to find an answer to this anywhere on the web for some time now, so, I hope someone on the list can advise me what to do.

 

I am running Windows10 Version 1803 (OS Build 17134.165)

with NVDA Version: 2018.2.1

I have Windows speaking the password prompt at bootup. The system is using a completely different voice from the Eloquence that I use in NVDA. That makes me think this is a Windows setting rather than an NVDA setting. I cannot find where the system voice is located or how it is managed so that I can adjust the speaking rate. Any ideas where I can find it and how to adjust the rate?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 


Re: Need to speed up Slow voice on Windows start-up

Chris
 

If you are using nvda on login screen it may well may be that you need to copy the saved settings to the login and other secure screens

 

To copy your currently saved settings over try opening nvda menu then preferences then under general press the button  copy my saved settings to login and other secure screens

 

Let nvda do its thing and then see how is then

 

 

From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: 10 August 2018 17:18
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Need to speed up Slow voice on Windows start-up

 

Hi,

 

Ive been unable to find an answer to this anywhere on the web for some time now, so, I hope someone on the list can advise me what to do.

 

I am running Windows10 Version 1803 (OS Build 17134.165)

with NVDA Version: 2018.2.1

I have Windows speaking the password prompt at bootup. The system is using a completely different voice from the Eloquence that I use in NVDA. That makes me think this is a Windows setting rather than an NVDA setting. I cannot find where the system voice is located or how it is managed so that I can adjust the speaking rate. Any ideas where I can find it and how to adjust the rate?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 


Need to speed up Slow voice on Windows start-up

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Hi,

 

Ive been unable to find an answer to this anywhere on the web for some time now, so, I hope someone on the list can advise me what to do.

 

I am running Windows10 Version 1803 (OS Build 17134.165)

with NVDA Version: 2018.2.1

I have Windows speaking the password prompt at bootup. The system is using a completely different voice from the Eloquence that I use in NVDA. That makes me think this is a Windows setting rather than an NVDA setting. I cannot find where the system voice is located or how it is managed so that I can adjust the speaking rate. Any ideas where I can find it and how to adjust the rate?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 


Re: rude braille

Brian Tew
 

Johnathan wrote:
After reading your further messages, perhaps turning off Braille messages by setting the timeout to zero in the NVDA Braille settings panel will give you the results you want.

That is an improvement, thanks. The good news is that new braille messages
don't snatch me away before I can finish reading.
The bad news is that braille messages no longer appear in the "tnpe a message here" window.
I have to flip back and forth between two windows--one to read and one to type.
Maybe there are keyboard commands for this that will make it quicker.
I type on the pc which is way faster than using my braille keyboard.
The other big problem of extra unnecessary repetitious words in each braille message remains.
I guess this is about the best It can be with current software.
We sure need a braille filtering system to eliminate excess verbiage.

To a sighted user or even an audio user this all will seem picayune no doubt, but braille is just slower.
Message arrives. I take my hands off the typing keys and grope the braille;
then I scroll up or down to find the message because it is not usually right on the display;
then I pan left or right to find the actual words among the clutter of padding from the skype program.
Hurray--I have read one message. When nou have six or eight people jabbering away every small speedup helps.
I can keep up in irc on linux, but not really in skype yet.


Re: Screen Curtain

 

Hi,
The API this add-on uses is available on Windows 8 and later. The person who is in charge of the overall framework (not me) for which this add-on is a part of is investigating how to bring this feature to Windows 7 users too.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis Zwicker
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 8:45 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Screen Curtain

Hi!

Why does Screen Curtain only work on win8 and later?

would be cool if it could be made to work under 7.


Greetings


Dennis


Screen Curtain

Dennis Zwicker
 

Hi!

Why does Screen Curtain only work on win8 and later?

would be cool if it could be made to work under 7.


Greetings


Dennis


Re: Win10 startup and NVDA

Gene
 

If you ask questions that aren't answered, that's probably because no one knows the answer.  It may happen that a question may be overlooked by someone so some people send a question again after a day or in case someone sees it who didn't see it before.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Win10 startup and NVDA

Thanks Brian.  At least you take the time to answer.  I asked several questions on this forum that remained unanswered.
Blessings
Pascal
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 9:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Win10 startup and NVDA

Its not just windows 10. I use 7, and sometimes I get the long period when nothing will work. sometimes it says unknown, then start, then a pause then desktop and sometimes landscape too. I have discovered that most of this silliness is due to a driver Jaws added onto my machine. although I do not have jaws set to come on at start, I recently took advantage of a very cheap licence for it and it seems to have added a video driver without asking. I thought these  display drivers all went away after Windows XP, but it seems not. I think the loading of this slugs te machine and causes stuff to be spoken not previously seen.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Pascal Lambert" <rambeau68@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 11:48 PM
Subject: [nvda] Win10 startup and NVDA


Hi All,

Does anyone experience this:

After I turn on my laptop, enter my password, it goes to the desktop and
NVDA voice comes up;

Then a long silence during which no key works;

then a message announcing the size of the window;

then long silence; and finally the desktop is working.

Is there anyone to disable the announcing of the window size?  Any other
suggestion?

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian
Vogel
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 6:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click



On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 06:27 PM, Gene wrote:

If the site is coded so unconventionally, as Brian says, who knows what is
causing the problem.

               Gene, what happens when you activate that link?   When I
activate it, whether by regular mouse click or in a screen reader, the end
result is dead silence and, in the case of a screen reader, with no object
having focus anywhere in the visible area where the link activation makes
the page scroll to.

                If I were not able to see exactly what's happening, and what
NVDA "sees" as happening via the Focus Highlight add-on, I'd definitely
think that activating that link "did nothing" and repeated space bar presses
or hits of enter after activating it initially do nothing more since
nothing's got focus where they clearly intend for the user to begin picking
from two dropdown lists.

                It's just plain weird, weird, weird.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for
all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel



















Re: Win10 startup and NVDA

Pascal Lambert
 

Thanks Brian. At least you take the time to answer. I asked several questions on this forum that remained unanswered.
Blessings
Pascal

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Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 9:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Win10 startup and NVDA

Its not just windows 10. I use 7, and sometimes I get the long period when nothing will work. sometimes it says unknown, then start, then a pause then desktop and sometimes landscape too. I have discovered that most of this silliness is due to a driver Jaws added onto my machine. although I do not have jaws set to come on at start, I recently took advantage of a very cheap licence for it and it seems to have added a video driver without asking. I thought these display drivers all went away after Windows XP, but it seems not. I think the loading of this slugs te machine and causes stuff to be spoken not previously seen.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Pascal Lambert" <rambeau68@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 11:48 PM
Subject: [nvda] Win10 startup and NVDA


Hi All,

Does anyone experience this:

After I turn on my laptop, enter my password, it goes to the desktop and
NVDA voice comes up;

Then a long silence during which no key works;

then a message announcing the size of the window;

then long silence; and finally the desktop is working.

Is there anyone to disable the announcing of the window size? Any other
suggestion?

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian
Vogel
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 6:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click



On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 06:27 PM, Gene wrote:

If the site is coded so unconventionally, as Brian says, who knows what is
causing the problem.

Gene, what happens when you activate that link? When I
activate it, whether by regular mouse click or in a screen reader, the end
result is dead silence and, in the case of a screen reader, with no object
having focus anywhere in the visible area where the link activation makes
the page scroll to.

If I were not able to see exactly what's happening, and what
NVDA "sees" as happening via the Focus Highlight add-on, I'd definitely
think that activating that link "did nothing" and repeated space bar presses
or hits of enter after activating it initially do nothing more since
nothing's got focus where they clearly intend for the user to begin picking
from two dropdown lists.

It's just plain weird, weird, weird.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for
all humankind.

~ Richard Dehmel


Re: Does anyone here use EaseUS To Do Backup?

 

I do not typically do "bump posts," but I'm making an exception as complete radio silence is quite atypical and I'm wondering if my original query, pasted below, might have landed in the cyber bitbucket the first time around.

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. . . if so, can you explain to me how you navigate the main controls for setting up a system image backup, file backup, or disk partition backup (among the other options there).

I have no problem once a backup is actually set up navigating all of the controls to either recover from it, run the backup again, or control advanced options for said backup, but I cannot seem to navigate the main control column to the left side of the screen where one selects the kind of backup one wishes to set up.

-------------------------------

I guess if it's radio silence again I can safely presume the answer to the question posed by the topic itself is, "No."

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: screen curtain not working here -- suggestions?

Rusty Perez
 

Thanks Joseph. I've got it working.
I thought my nvda was up to date, but I was running 18.1.1. Now it
works since I've updated.

On 8/10/18, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Which NVDA version do you have? And from Add-ons Manager, is Screen Curtain
shown as "enabled", not "installed"? If you see that Screen Curtain is shown
as "installed", then looks like the add-on install file has become corrupt.
If it is shown as "enabled", chances are that something went wrong when NVDA
was preparing to load this add-on.
First, try restarting your computer. For most cases, this should resolve the
problem. If it does not, please send me a log so I can find out what's up.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rusty Perez
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 5:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] screen curtain not working here -- suggestions?

Hi folks,
I've installed screen curtain on my win10 laptop.
When I go in to the addons manager, it says screen curtain is installed, but
screen curtain doesn't appear in any other menues. It's not in the tools
menu where I would turn it on, and it's not in the gestures sections where I
can set a keyboard shortcut to turn it on.

Any thoughts?

Thanks!
Rusty