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Re: FireFox Issues Discussion

John Isige
 

Noscript works fine in quantum now. You pick it and have to wait like a second because the stuff that used to be in a submenu comes up kind of as part of the web page. So you right click, pick noscript, then I usually just arrow up or do ctrl-home, and you get to stuff that shows up as links and radio buttons and the like.

On 9/7/2018 18:24, Shaun Everiss wrote:
To be honest quantom took away a lot of the accessible menus you > could click to, its why I still use noscript 5x on waterfox. > >
There are new constraints such that a lot of standard windows things > like registry access just can't be used, sadly I think that means > context menus to. > > > > On 9/8/2018 2:45 AM, Roger Stewart wrote: >> On a related topic, I've been using the No Script add on for >> Firefox for several years now. It used to be very accessible in >> that all you need do is hit the context key and then you find the >> No Script submenue and choose your option of block the site, >> temporarily allow the site or trust it. I noticed the other day I >> needed to unblock a site but the interface to No Script has changed >> so radically that I can't understand it at all. Seems to be some >> kind of table or something with lots of weird sounding items in >> there and I have no idea of how to use it with NVDA now. Can anyone >> help? >> >> Thanks.
Roger >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 9/7/2018 7:17
AM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote: >>> thanks all, but when i go to tools then options in ff i am not >>> seeing the option to turn off updates could u all tell me whare >>> it is found? thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian's >>> Mail list account via Groups.Io" >>> <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> >>> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 2:29 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] >>> FireFox Issues Discussion >>> >>> >>>> Yes that is exactly why I am still using windows 7 and have >>>> waterfox on it. I do still have firefox 52, but as of the end >>>> of August no security updates are being offered for that >>>> version. >>>> >>>> Waterfox is 64 bit only, so no good on 32 bit versions of >>>> windows. >>>> >>>> To me as long as you do not have anyone is click happy on your >>>> machine and scan it regularly and do not visited dodgy sites >>>> anything more threatening than tracking cookies or maybe >>>> bundled rubbishware are unlikely. Be mindful of the discussion >>>> about Ccleaner only being safe in its portable guise though. >>>> You may find that soon many web sites may not work well with >>>> the older Firefox, needing Chrome based, Edge based or Quantum
based browsers. This might affect Waterfox, but may not if they spoof the data it sends to the web site to pretend to be a >>>>
later version of firefox. Brian >>>> >>>> bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address >>>> personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian >>>> Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "David Russell" <david.sonofhashem@gmail.com> To: "nvda" >>>> <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 10:26 >>>> PM Subject: [nvda] FireFox Issues Discussion >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hello Group, >>>>> >>>>> OK, I have learned a couple things since posting eight or so >>>>> hours ago. >>>>>
- I have FF 52. I now get one of those Do you want to allow >>>>>
FireFox to install .... when going into use Mozilla FireFox, >>>>> tab to the no answer and it allows me to conduct business as >>>>> usual. I can live with that. >>>>> >>>>> - I also saw Davy's notice about what the update concerns, >>>>> but am reluctant to accept it because of what occurred before >>>>> and was generally described in previous posts. - I was able >>>>> to do my work and other ordinary routine today without too >>>>> much hassle. - I have three versions of NVDA on my computer,
but not sure how to tell which is the latest working one. I >>>>>
use a desktop not a laptop computer. - I set Security >>>>> Essentials to do a full scan and spyware check during my >>>>> breakfast time Friday and the computer does not have to be on >>>>> for that to occur. Thus for now, going to leave things as >>>>> they are until a better doable resolution comes along. I have >>>>> some major projects forthcoming, and cannot afford to have my >>>>> computer disabled. >>>>>
-- David Russell david.sonofhashem@gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>
. >>> >> >> >> >> >> . >> > >


Re: Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to use the programme?

Gene
 

You don't have to use it on the dark web nor with any unscrupulous sites.  It's intended use is to allow people who want to browse and make it vary hard to be tracked to do so.  You can open any site you wish.  It is especially useful, from what I've read, for people living in countries where the Internet is censored.  You can see sites that are censored because you are using the server Tor provides and not using your Internet provider's server.  It is also much harder to track you.
 
Don't be frightened by the negative comments in this thread.  Read the information on the web site and of course, if you want more information or to verify what you have read, there are all sorts of places to find information.  I'm sure Wikipedia has a comprehensive article about the Tor browser.
 
Also, I'll put the version in my Drop box account that I was talking about earlier today.  I'll do so either tonight or tomorrow.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: 特種兵
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to use the programme?


   It gave me a bad impression, because the first time I saw him was
because my friend had a virus, and the file "readme" said that it would
use this browser to open a web page and pay them.
because The virus encoding your file.
   I hope that you will not encounter this situation, and don't be
stupid enough to pay, because you can't guarantee that they will return
the decoding file to you.
   I have seen this virus two or three times, so I don't like this
browser very much. It always makes me think that it is also an accomplice.

thank you for much
Logo Kuo from Taiwan

tim 於 2018/09/08 7:41 寫道:
> take it from someone that uses that browser. Don’t use it on windows you do not have enough protection to be safe.
> It is used for dark web browser and every site will track you. If you do want to use it on any op use a VPN.
> I would check it on youtube search for dark web or deep web. You will find stuff that is past real and is not tv.
> Also don’t use any credit cards they mostly use crept coin.
>
>> On Sep 7, 2018, at 5:48 PM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
>>
>> When I used it as a proxy, it was very slow. That is the nature of the browser, and it is just something we will have to deal with. No matter how many prophecies are online, it will still be slow. I was only getting maybe about 128kbps down and up. It was beautiful.
>>
>>
>> On September 7, 2018 11:13:18 "Mallard" <mallard@...> wrote:
>>
>>> Ciao Lino,
>>>
>>>
>>> I tried a few years ago, but it slowed my machine down so much, that I
>>> gave up. I thought it was me doing something wrong, but then I had a
>>> much slower computer, with only a couple gb of ram...
>>>
>>> Quack-Quadk,
>>>
>>> Ollie The Duck
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Il 07/09/2018 19:57, Lino Morales ha scritto:
>>>> What up Duck. From what I’ve been told Tore works like Firefox or
>>>> Waterfox. I’ve thought about using it myself a while. Have fun and
>>>> happy downloading.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
>>>> Windows 10
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> *From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Mallard
>>>> <mallard@...>
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, September 7, 2018 4:26:10 AM
>>>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>>> *Subject:* [nvda] Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to use the
>>>> programme?
>>>> Hello list,
>>>>
>>>> I've been wanting to use Tor for a whle, more out of curiosity than of
>>>> real need, but have never found anyone to give me clues.
>>>>
>>>> Is there any tutorial available, possibly in text, but also in audio for
>>>> lack of text?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
>>>> Ciao,
>>>> Ollie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>




Re: Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to use the programme?

特種兵
 

It gave me a bad impression, because the first time I saw him was because my friend had a virus, and the file "readme" said that it would use this browser to open a web page and pay them.
because The virus encoding your file.
  I hope that you will not encounter this situation, and don't be stupid enough to pay, because you can't guarantee that they will return the decoding file to you.
  I have seen this virus two or three times, so I don't like this browser very much. It always makes me think that it is also an accomplice.

thank you for much
Logo Kuo from Taiwan

tim 於 2018/09/08 7:41 寫道:

take it from someone that uses that browser. Don’t use it on windows you do not have enough protection to be safe.
It is used for dark web browser and every site will track you. If you do want to use it on any op use a VPN.
I would check it on youtube search for dark web or deep web. You will find stuff that is past real and is not tv.
Also don’t use any credit cards they mostly use crept coin.

On Sep 7, 2018, at 5:48 PM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:

When I used it as a proxy, it was very slow. That is the nature of the browser, and it is just something we will have to deal with. No matter how many prophecies are online, it will still be slow. I was only getting maybe about 128kbps down and up. It was beautiful.


On September 7, 2018 11:13:18 "Mallard" <mallard@kimabe.eu> wrote:

Ciao Lino,


I tried a few years ago, but it slowed my machine down so much, that I
gave up. I thought it was me doing something wrong, but then I had a
much slower computer, with only a couple gb of ram...

Quack-Quadk,

Ollie The Duck





Il 07/09/2018 19:57, Lino Morales ha scritto:
What up Duck. From what I’ve been told Tore works like Firefox or
Waterfox. I’ve thought about using it myself a while. Have fun and
happy downloading.

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

------------------------------------------------------------------------
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Mallard
<mallard@kimabe.eu>
*Sent:* Friday, September 7, 2018 4:26:10 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to use the
programme?
Hello list,

I've been wanting to use Tor for a whle, more out of curiosity than of
real need, but have never found anyone to give me clues.

Is there any tutorial available, possibly in text, but also in audio for
lack of text?

Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
Ciao,
Ollie






Re: Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to use the programme?

tim
 

take it from someone that uses that browser. Don’t use it on windows you do not have enough protection to be safe.
It is used for dark web browser and every site will track you. If you do want to use it on any op use a VPN.
I would check it on youtube search for dark web or deep web. You will find stuff that is past real and is not tv.
Also don’t use any credit cards they mostly use crept coin.

On Sep 7, 2018, at 5:48 PM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:

When I used it as a proxy, it was very slow. That is the nature of the browser, and it is just something we will have to deal with. No matter how many prophecies are online, it will still be slow. I was only getting maybe about 128kbps down and up. It was beautiful.


On September 7, 2018 11:13:18 "Mallard" <mallard@kimabe.eu> wrote:

Ciao Lino,


I tried a few years ago, but it slowed my machine down so much, that I
gave up. I thought it was me doing something wrong, but then I had a
much slower computer, with only a couple gb of ram...

Quack-Quadk,

Ollie The Duck





Il 07/09/2018 19:57, Lino Morales ha scritto:

What up Duck. From what I’ve been told Tore works like Firefox or
Waterfox. I’ve thought about using it myself a while. Have fun and
happy downloading.

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

------------------------------------------------------------------------
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Mallard
<mallard@kimabe.eu>
*Sent:* Friday, September 7, 2018 4:26:10 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to use the
programme?
Hello list,

I've been wanting to use Tor for a whle, more out of curiosity than of
real need, but have never found anyone to give me clues.

Is there any tutorial available, possibly in text, but also in audio for
lack of text?

Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
Ciao,
Ollie








Re: FireFox Issues Discussion

 

To be honest quantom took away a lot of the accessible menus you could click to, its why I still use noscript 5x on waterfox.

There are new constraints such that a lot of standard windows things like registry access just can't be used, sadly I think that means context menus to.

On 9/8/2018 2:45 AM, Roger Stewart wrote:
On a related topic, I've been using the No Script add on for Firefox for several years now. It used to be very accessible in that all you need do is hit the context key and then you find the No Script submenue and choose your option of block the site, temporarily allow the site or trust it.  I noticed the other day I needed to unblock a site but the interface to No Script has changed so radically that I can't understand it at all.  Seems to be some kind of table or something with lots of weird sounding items in there and I have no idea of how to use it with NVDA now. Can anyone help?

Thanks.

Roger













On 9/7/2018 7:17 AM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:
thanks all, but when i go to tools then options in ff
i am not seeing the option to turn off updates
could u all tell me whare it is found?
thanks
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io" <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 2:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] FireFox Issues Discussion


Yes that is exactly why I am still using windows 7 and have waterfox on it. I do still have firefox 52, but as of the end of August no security updates are being offered for that version.

Waterfox is 64 bit only, so no good on 32 bit versions of windows.

To me as long as you do not have anyone is click happy on your machine and scan it regularly and do not visited dodgy sites anything more threatening than tracking cookies or maybe bundled rubbishware are unlikely.
Be mindful of the discussion about Ccleaner only being safe in its portable guise though.
You may find that soon many web sites may not work well with the older Firefox, needing Chrome based, Edge based or Quantum based browsers. This might affect Waterfox, but may not if they spoof the data it sends to the web site to pretend to be a later version of firefox.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Russell" <david.sonofhashem@gmail.com>
To: "nvda" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 10:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] FireFox Issues Discussion


Hello Group,

OK, I have learned a couple things since posting eight or so hours ago.

- I have FF 52. I now get one of those Do you want to allow FireFox to
install .... when going into use Mozilla FireFox, tab to the no answer
and it allows me to conduct business as usual. I can live with that.

- I also saw Davy's notice about what the update concerns, but am
reluctant to accept it because of what occurred before and was
generally described in previous posts.
- I was able to do my work and other ordinary routine today without
too much hassle.
- I have three versions of NVDA on my computer, but not sure how to
tell which is the latest working one. I use a desktop not a laptop
computer.
- I set Security Essentials to do a full scan and spyware check during
my breakfast time Friday and the computer does not have to be on for
that to occur.
Thus for now, going to leave things as they are until a better doable
resolution comes along. I have some major projects forthcoming, and
cannot afford to have my computer disabled.

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@gmail.com







.


.


Re: Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to use the programme?

Sarah k Alawami
 

When I used it as a proxy, it was very slow. That is the nature of the browser, and it is just something we will have to deal with. No matter how many prophecies are online, it will still be slow. I was only getting maybe about 128kbps down and up. It was beautiful.

On September 7, 2018 11:13:18 "Mallard" <mallard@kimabe.eu> wrote:

Ciao Lino,


I tried a few years ago, but it slowed my machine down so much, that I
gave up. I thought it was me doing something wrong, but then I had a
much slower computer, with only a couple gb of ram...

Quack-Quadk,

Ollie The Duck





Il 07/09/2018 19:57, Lino Morales ha scritto:

What up Duck. From what I’ve been told Tore works like Firefox or
Waterfox. I’ve thought about using it myself a while. Have fun and
happy downloading.

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

------------------------------------------------------------------------
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Mallard
<mallard@kimabe.eu>
*Sent:* Friday, September 7, 2018 4:26:10 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to use the
programme?
Hello list,

I've been wanting to use Tor for a whle, more out of curiosity than of
real need, but have never found anyone to give me clues.

Is there any tutorial available, possibly in text, but also in audio for
lack of text?

Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
Ciao,
Ollie





Re: FireFox Discussion

Kerryn Gunness <k_gunness@...>
 

thanks david

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Russell" <david.sonofhashem@gmail.com>
To: "nvda" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 12:32 PM
Subject: [nvda] FireFox Discussion


Hi NVDA Group,

- To the person requesting where to find the update settings in
FireFox, FF, I concur with the answer in the previous digest, Advance
Settings.

- What Roger describes and what someone else described concerning a
Google error message is similar to the type of thing that was
occurring when this update installed on my desktop computer two days
ago. NVDA would not announce hyphen, comma, period or other
punctuation keys when pressed, read my auto-signature in email, or
announce letters backspaced over. It would read words as I typed them
though. Other things changed as well until I did system restore going
back to the pre-update status. Not being that tech savvy, frankly, I
don't really know what the h..l to do. Gene's articles may be a good
place to start though, thanks.

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@gmail.com
"chilah phanim" Make G-d smile!


Re: FireFox Issues Discussion

Kerryn Gunness <k_gunness@...>
 


thank you
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] FireFox Issues Discussion

What version of Firefox are you asking about?  The options dialog was changed when Quantum was released.  if you are still using version 52ESR, the instructions are very different. 
 
If you are using version 52.ESR, open tools, then options.
Tab once to get into a list of categories 
Down arrow seven or eight times to advanced.  If you get stuck and can't move beyond a certain category, up arrow once then start down arrowing again.
Once you are at advanced, tab two or three times to general. 
Right arrow until you get to updates.
Tab through and look at the options.
The option about determining how the browser will handle updating is a list of radio buttons.
After you set it, there is no ok button.  Changes take immediate effect.  This is actually a web page like interface that looks like a dialog.  So do whatever you want as though you were on a web page and want to go to another page, shut down the browser, whatever you might do while on a web page to leave it and close the browser or do something else with it.
 
Gene
----- Original message -----
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 7:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] FireFox Issues Discussion

thanks all, but when i go to tools then options in ff
i am not seeing the option to turn off updates
could u all tell me whare it is found?
thanks
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io"
<bglists@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 2:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] FireFox Issues Discussion


> Yes that is exactly why I am still using windows 7 and have waterfox on
> it. I do still have firefox 52, but as of the end of August no security
> updates are being offered for that version.
>
> Waterfox is 64 bit only, so no good on 32 bit versions of windows.
>
> To me as long as you do not have anyone is click happy on your machine and
> scan it regularly and do not visited dodgy sites anything more threatening
> than tracking cookies or maybe bundled rubbishware are unlikely.
> Be mindful of the discussion about Ccleaner only being safe in its
> portable guise though.
> You may find that soon many web sites may not work well with the older
> Firefox, needing Chrome based, Edge based or Quantum based browsers. This
> might affect Waterfox, but may not if they spoof the data it sends to the
> web site to pretend to be a later version of firefox.
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Russell" <david.sonofhashem@...>
> To: "nvda" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 10:26 PM
> Subject: [nvda] FireFox Issues Discussion
>
>
>> Hello Group,
>>
>> OK, I have learned a couple things since posting eight or so hours ago.
>>
>> - I have FF 52. I now get one of those Do you want to allow FireFox to
>> install .... when going into use Mozilla FireFox, tab to the no answer
>> and it allows me to conduct business as usual. I can live with that.
>>
>> - I also saw Davy's notice about what the update concerns, but am
>> reluctant to accept it because of what occurred before and was
>> generally described in previous posts.
>> - I was able to do my work and other ordinary routine today without
>> too much hassle.
>> - I have three versions of NVDA on my computer, but not sure how to
>> tell which is the latest working one. I use a desktop not a laptop
>> computer.
>> - I set Security Essentials to do a full scan and spyware check during
>> my breakfast time Friday and the computer does not have to be on for
>> that to occur.
>> Thus for now, going to leave things as they are until a better doable
>> resolution comes along. I have some major projects forthcoming, and
>> cannot afford to have my computer disabled.
>>
>> --
>> David Russell
>> david.sonofhashem@...
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>




Re: FireFox Issues Discussion

Gene
 

What version of Firefox are you asking about?  The options dialog was changed when Quantum was released.  if you are still using version 52ESR, the instructions are very different. 
 
If you are using version 52.ESR, open tools, then options.
Tab once to get into a list of categories. 
Down arrow seven or eight times to advanced.  If you get stuck and can't move beyond a certain category, up arrow once then start down arrowing again.
Once you are at advanced, tab two or three times to general. 
Right arrow until you get to updates.
Tab through and look at the options.
The option about determining how the browser will handle updating is a list of radio buttons.
After you set it, there is no ok button.  Changes take immediate effect.  This is actually a web page like interface that looks like a dialog.  So do whatever you want as though you were on a web page and want to go to another page, shut down the browser, whatever you might do while on a web page to leave it and close the browser or do something else with it.
 
Gene

----- Original message -----
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 7:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] FireFox Issues Discussion

thanks all, but when i go to tools then options in ff
i am not seeing the option to turn off updates
could u all tell me whare it is found?
thanks
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io"
<bglists@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 2:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] FireFox Issues Discussion


> Yes that is exactly why I am still using windows 7 and have waterfox on
> it. I do still have firefox 52, but as of the end of August no security
> updates are being offered for that version.
>
> Waterfox is 64 bit only, so no good on 32 bit versions of windows.
>
> To me as long as you do not have anyone is click happy on your machine and
> scan it regularly and do not visited dodgy sites anything more threatening
> than tracking cookies or maybe bundled rubbishware are unlikely.
> Be mindful of the discussion about Ccleaner only being safe in its
> portable guise though.
> You may find that soon many web sites may not work well with the older
> Firefox, needing Chrome based, Edge based or Quantum based browsers. This
> might affect Waterfox, but may not if they spoof the data it sends to the
> web site to pretend to be a later version of firefox.
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Russell" <david.sonofhashem@...>
> To: "nvda" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 10:26 PM
> Subject: [nvda] FireFox Issues Discussion
>
>
>> Hello Group,
>>
>> OK, I have learned a couple things since posting eight or so hours ago.
>>
>> - I have FF 52. I now get one of those Do you want to allow FireFox to
>> install .... when going into use Mozilla FireFox, tab to the no answer
>> and it allows me to conduct business as usual. I can live with that.
>>
>> - I also saw Davy's notice about what the update concerns, but am
>> reluctant to accept it because of what occurred before and was
>> generally described in previous posts.
>> - I was able to do my work and other ordinary routine today without
>> too much hassle.
>> - I have three versions of NVDA on my computer, but not sure how to
>> tell which is the latest working one. I use a desktop not a laptop
>> computer.
>> - I set Security Essentials to do a full scan and spyware check during
>> my breakfast time Friday and the computer does not have to be on for
>> that to occur.
>> Thus for now, going to leave things as they are until a better doable
>> resolution comes along. I have some major projects forthcoming, and
>> cannot afford to have my computer disabled.
>>
>> --
>> David Russell
>> david.sonofhashem@...
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>




Re: Braille command for continuous read with NVDA.

Jason White
 

To answer the second question, the BrailleExtender help (available with Space+Dots 1-2-5 on the braille display, or in Preferences -> Braille Extender -> Documentation from the NVDA menu) lists all of the commands.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of GTT Coordinator, Canadian Council Of The Blind
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 11:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Braille command for continuous read with NVDA.

 

Hi all.

I have just recently been using NVDA with a focus braille display and love it.  I have the braille extender add on and I have been able to emulate many keyboard commands from the display but  I can’t seem to figure out how to do a continuous read.

Also, is there anywhere where I can see a list of the commands?

Thanks for any help. Kim

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 11:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the Focus 40 Blue

 

As said in manual, install the drivers, connect it, via USB or Bluetooth

and select it in NVDA...

 

Rui

 

 

Às 15:57 de 07/09/2018, Hermann-Josef Kurzen escreveu:

> Hello there,

>

> I would like to use the Focus 40 Blue Braille device with NVDA.

> It is mentioned in the manual, but I don't know, waht's to do.

>

> Can anybody help please?

>

>

> Greetings - Hermann

>

>  

>

>

> ■■■

>

>

>

>

 

 

 


Re: single key command for paragraph by paragraph navigation

Jonathan COHN
 

Ah yes, of course but for consumers of content, JAWS enables the P keys to be used for paragraph navigation quite easy to remember and also easy to type. Of course, JAWS oly allows this command in the equivalent of the browse mode in NVDA.

 

It seems that this request comes up on a fairly regular basis, and there must be some way that NVDA enables control-arrow to function in browsers, so perhaps this could be easy to implement for browse mode???

 

So the questions to answer for this are:

  1. Is there a browse mode script function to move by paragraph?
  2. How does one add / modify browse mode single character assignments?
  3. What are the simplist specific steps to make the association between P and rparagraph navigation browse script functions.

Then perhaps we can stop seeing this question on the NVDA mailing list on a monthly basis!

 

Ta!

 

Jonathan Cohn

 

From: Ann Byrne <annakb@...>
Date: Friday, September 7, 2018 at 2:52 PM
To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] single key command for paragraph by paragraph navigation

 

Ctrl+down arrow will do it.  This is an Office command, not a screen reader command.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Kingett
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 6:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] single key command for paragraph by paragraph navigation

 

I've been looking for this for years and have yet to find one. I have no idea why this is so hard to find.


Braille command for continuous read with NVDA.

GTT Coordinator, Canadian Council Of The Blind <gttprogram@...>
 

Hi all.

I have just recently been using NVDA with a focus braille display and love it.  I have the braille extender add on and I have been able to emulate many keyboard commands from the display but  I can’t seem to figure out how to do a continuous read.

Also, is there anywhere where I can see a list of the commands?

Thanks for any help. Kim

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 11:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the Focus 40 Blue

 

As said in manual, install the drivers, connect it, via USB or Bluetooth

and select it in NVDA...

 

Rui

 

 

Às 15:57 de 07/09/2018, Hermann-Josef Kurzen escreveu:

> Hello there,

>

> I would like to use the Focus 40 Blue Braille device with NVDA.

> It is mentioned in the manual, but I don't know, waht's to do.

>

> Can anybody help please?

>

>

> Greetings - Hermann

>

>  

>

>

> ■■■

>

>

>

>

 

 

 


Re: Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to use the programme?

Mallard
 

Ciao Lino,


I tried a few years ago, but it slowed my machine down so much, that I gave up. I thought it was me doing something wrong, but then I had a much slower computer, with only a couple gb of ram...

Quack-Quadk,

Ollie The Duck

Il 07/09/2018 19:57, Lino Morales ha scritto:

What up Duck. From what I’ve been told Tore works like Firefox or Waterfox. I’ve thought about using it myself a while. Have fun and happy downloading.

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10

------------------------------------------------------------------------
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Mallard <mallard@kimabe.eu>
*Sent:* Friday, September 7, 2018 4:26:10 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to use the programme?
Hello list,

I've been wanting to use Tor for a whle, more out of curiosity than of
real need, but have never found anyone to give me clues.

Is there any tutorial available, possibly in text, but also in audio for
lack of text?

Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
Ciao,
Ollie




Re: NVDA and the Focus 40 Blue

Mallard
 

Hello Hermann,


I hope it works for you as it has for me and others.

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 07/09/2018 20:03, Hermann-Josef Kurzen ha scritto:
Hi Ollie,

okay, I've downloaded the driver.
Thank You very much.


Greetings - Hermann


■■■


Gesendet: Freitag, 07. September 2018 um 19:37 Uhr
Von: Mallard <mallard@kimabe.eu>
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the Focus 40 Blue

Hello there,


Here's a link to my Dropbox for the driver.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/vwu4v41b2guydn2/FocusBlueDriver1.0.2030.exe?dl=0


Grab it, install it, then choose Freedom Scientific in the display
braille list in NVDA, press OK, and you should be good to go.


hth, keep well,

Ollie





Il 07/09/2018 17:49, Rui Fontes ha scritto:
As said in manual, install the drivers, connect it, via USB or
Bluetooth and select it in NVDA...

Rui


Às 15:57 de 07/09/2018, Hermann-Josef Kurzen escreveu:
Hello there,

I would like to use the Focus 40 Blue Braille device with NVDA.
It is mentioned in the manual, but I don't know, waht's to do.

Can anybody help please?


Greetings - Hermann



■■■







Re: NVDA and the Focus 40 Blue

Hermann-Josef Kurzen
 

Hi Ollie,

okay, I've downloaded the driver.
Thank You very much.


Greetings - Hermann


■■■

Gesendet: Freitag, 07. September 2018 um 19:37 Uhr
Von: Mallard <mallard@kimabe.eu>
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the Focus 40 Blue

Hello there,


Here's a link to my Dropbox for the driver.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/vwu4v41b2guydn2/FocusBlueDriver1.0.2030.exe?dl=0


Grab it, install it, then choose Freedom Scientific in the display
braille list in NVDA, press OK, and you should be good to go.


hth, keep well,

Ollie





Il 07/09/2018 17:49, Rui Fontes ha scritto:
As said in manual, install the drivers, connect it, via USB or
Bluetooth and select it in NVDA...

Rui


Às 15:57 de 07/09/2018, Hermann-Josef Kurzen escreveu:
Hello there,

I would like to use the Focus 40 Blue Braille device with NVDA.
It is mentioned in the manual, but I don't know, waht's to do.

Can anybody help please?


Greetings - Hermann



■■■









Re: Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to use the programme?

Lino Morales
 

What up Duck. From what I’ve been told Tore works like Firefox or Waterfox. I’ve thought about using it myself a while. Have fun and happy downloading.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Mallard <mallard@...>
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 4:26:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to use the programme?
 
Hello list,

I've been wanting to use Tor for a whle, more out of curiosity than of
real need, but have never found anyone to give me clues.

Is there any tutorial available, possibly in text, but also in audio for
lack of text?

Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
Ciao,
Ollie




Re: NVDA and the Focus 40 Blue

Mallard
 

Hello there,


Here's a link to my Dropbox for the driver.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/vwu4v41b2guydn2/FocusBlueDriver1.0.2030.exe?dl=0


Grab it, install it, then choose Freedom Scientific in the display braille list in NVDA, press OK, and you should be good to go.


hth, keep well,

Ollie

Il 07/09/2018 17:49, Rui Fontes ha scritto:
As said in manual, install the drivers, connect it, via USB or Bluetooth and select it in NVDA...

Rui


Às 15:57 de 07/09/2018, Hermann-Josef Kurzen escreveu:
Hello there,

I would like to use the Focus 40 Blue Braille device with NVDA.
It is mentioned in the manual, but I don't know, waht's to do.

Can anybody help please?


Greetings - Hermann



■■■





Re: [nvda-addons] Two add-on releases: ObjPad 18.09, StationPlaylist 18.09 (long-term support) #addonrelease

 

Hi,

Mostly for Doug and others looking for layered command samples: take a look at StationPlaylist Studio add-on source code located at:

https://github.com/josephsl/stationplaylist

Note that the overall mechanism (using functools.wraps decorator) was Tyler Spivey’s idea (I and others owe him tremendous gratitude for his code fragment).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 10:19 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda-addons] Two add-on releases: ObjPad 18.09, StationPlaylist 18.09 (long-term support) #AddonRelease

 

Hi all,

 

Two add-ons have been updated today:

  • ObjPad 18.09: until now, in order to activate a given object, you had to press Space. Starting with 18.09, you can now press Enter to activate the object you are located at. Also, the add-on will speak more languages thanks to work from translators.
  • StationPlaylist Studio 18.09: besides letting you save playlist data to a CSV file, it now opens the door for Add-on Updater to update this add-on. It also includes a feature that’ll become active once NVDA 2018.3 stable version is released: ability to save add-on settings from anywhere by pressing Control+NVDA+C.

 

A note about StationPlaylist Studio 18.09: this is a long-term support release. Version 18.09.x will be powered by Python 2, with a future stable release switching to Python 3 once NVDA does transition to Python 3. Also, if you are using Studio 5.10, 18.09.x is for you.

 

Additional details:

 

  • Later in September, an 18.09.x version will be released, locking the update channel to LTS. If you wish to use stable releases (18.10 and beyond), you SHOULD NOT install that version; if you do, you need to visit NVDA add-ons website and download the stable (18.10) version, which, among other things, will require NVDA 2018.3. For now, 18.09 (the zero version) won’t lock you to LTS channel, so stable version users can use this release.
  • Support for Studio 5.11 is contingent on user feedback. Although Studio 5.20 includes features used to make some add-on features more efficient to implement, there are folks who need to use 5.11 for various reasons. Thus, about 60 days prior to ending support for 5.11 (likely in 2020), I’ll post a notice regarding this matter.
  • There are vast differences between python 2 and 3. Since LTS and stable releases will be powered by Python 2 and 3, respectively, I’ll try my best to backport newer features to 18.09.x (LTS) users if it is possible.
  • Support for 18.09.x will end in December 2019 at the earliest.

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Two add-on releases: ObjPad 18.09, StationPlaylist 18.09 (long-term support) #addonrelease

 

Hi,

Note: these releases will be released to the world in about an hour from now.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 10:19 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Two add-on releases: ObjPad 18.09, StationPlaylist 18.09 (long-term support) #AddonRelease

 

Hi all,

 

Two add-ons have been updated today:

  • ObjPad 18.09: until now, in order to activate a given object, you had to press Space. Starting with 18.09, you can now press Enter to activate the object you are located at. Also, the add-on will speak more languages thanks to work from translators.
  • StationPlaylist Studio 18.09: besides letting you save playlist data to a CSV file, it now opens the door for Add-on Updater to update this add-on. It also includes a feature that’ll become active once NVDA 2018.3 stable version is released: ability to save add-on settings from anywhere by pressing Control+NVDA+C.

 

A note about StationPlaylist Studio 18.09: this is a long-term support release. Version 18.09.x will be powered by Python 2, with a future stable release switching to Python 3 once NVDA does transition to Python 3. Also, if you are using Studio 5.10, 18.09.x is for you.

 

Additional details:

 

  • Later in September, an 18.09.x version will be released, locking the update channel to LTS. If you wish to use stable releases (18.10 and beyond), you SHOULD NOT install that version; if you do, you need to visit NVDA add-ons website and download the stable (18.10) version, which, among other things, will require NVDA 2018.3. For now, 18.09 (the zero version) won’t lock you to LTS channel, so stable version users can use this release.
  • Support for Studio 5.11 is contingent on user feedback. Although Studio 5.20 includes features used to make some add-on features more efficient to implement, there are folks who need to use 5.11 for various reasons. Thus, about 60 days prior to ending support for 5.11 (likely in 2020), I’ll post a notice regarding this matter.
  • There are vast differences between python 2 and 3. Since LTS and stable releases will be powered by Python 2 and 3, respectively, I’ll try my best to backport newer features to 18.09.x (LTS) users if it is possible.
  • Support for 18.09.x will end in December 2019 at the earliest.

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: UpdateRemote Add-on issue

 

Hi,

The patch should contain the executable. I think, at this point, it might be advisable to contact add-on authors.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonathan Milam
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 10:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] UpdateRemote Add-on issue

 

 

Does your patch perhaps also contain this executable?  If so, could you e-mail it to me directly?  Or are you able to advise where I can find it on another computer to copy it?

 

 

Thanks,

JonathanSent from my iPhone


On Sep 7, 2018, at 12:52 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

In this case, it may have nothing to do with my patch. Based on versions you posted, it looks like it is an incomplete protocol registration (there is an executable that is part of this add-on that’s supposed to take care of it).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonathan Milam
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 9:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] UpdateRemote Add-on issue

 

 

That's what I was thinking as well. That might also somehow explain why I can't install your version of the add-on, Joseph.  I am running NVDA 2018.2 and add-on version 2.1 I believe, the latest version from the nvdaremote.com website. Is there a way of manually associating the protocol?

 

 

Thanks,

JonathanSent from my iPhone


On Sep 7, 2018, at 12:15 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

Hmmm, looks like protocol registration routine didn’t work as expected. What NVDA and Remote add-on versions are you using?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonathan Milam
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 9:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] UpdateRemote Add-on issue

 

 

Exactly. That's what baffles me.  Just like http and https has protocols for a specific browser to work, something has to allow the nvdaremote to connect and work as well. The strange thing is that the add-on itself works perfectly if I manually connect to each computer from the connect dialog, but absolutely none of my shortcuts will work anymore.  They worked perfectly a couple of days ago, and just stopped for no logical reason.  Not even a reload of the OS fixed it.

 

 

JonathanSent from my iPhone


On Sep 7, 2018, at 11:55 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Just FYI, I just installed the NVDA Remote Add-On just to see if anything would show up in the "Apps by Protocol" list afterward and there is no change.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

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