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Re: UpdateRemote Add-on issue

Jonathan Milam
 



That's what I was thinking as well. That might also somehow explain why I can't install your version of the add-on, Joseph.  I am running NVDA 2018.2 and add-on version 2.1 I believe, the latest version from the nvdaremote.com website. Is there a way of manually associating the protocol?


Thanks,
JonathanSent from my iPhone

On Sep 7, 2018, at 12:15 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

Hmmm, looks like protocol registration routine didn’t work as expected. What NVDA and Remote add-on versions are you using?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonathan Milam
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 9:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] UpdateRemote Add-on issue

 

 

Exactly. That's what baffles me.  Just like http and https has protocols for a specific browser to work, something has to allow the nvdaremote to connect and work as well. The strange thing is that the add-on itself works perfectly if I manually connect to each computer from the connect dialog, but absolutely none of my shortcuts will work anymore.  They worked perfectly a couple of days ago, and just stopped for no logical reason.  Not even a reload of the OS fixed it.

 

 

JonathanSent from my iPhone


On Sep 7, 2018, at 11:55 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Just FYI, I just installed the NVDA Remote Add-On just to see if anything would show up in the "Apps by Protocol" list afterward and there is no change.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

 

 


NVDA and Searching in Outlook 2016

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Hi all you Outlook users,

 

Microsoft provides a very powerful search tool in Outlook which is simple as pie for a sighted user to use but not so easy for us screen reader users. I searched the web for advice on how to use the search tools with a screen reader but there was nothing there except simple instructions for sighted users. For this reason, I would like to share my findings after spending most of the day trying out various options which proved successful.

 

To make a simple search of all mailboxes do the following:

1. control+e to open the search edit box

2. Type the text to search for. Do not press enter as the search is instantaneous and the result appears automatically.

3. Shift+tab to move to the table view and explore the results. this puts you on the last message in the table so control+home will put you at the top of the table if that is what you want and then up and down arrows move between messages in the usual way.

 

The scope of the simple search defaults to "All mailboxes".

If you want to change this, then do the following:

1. control+e to open the search edit box

2. Type in the text to search for.

3. Press tab twice to pass over the "close search" button to the list box which defaults to "All Mailboxes".

3. Pres enter to open the list and move up or down with the arrow keys to find the scope that you prefer.

4. press enter to confirm the selection and return to the search dialog which has automatically responded to your adjusted scope.

5. shift+tab three times to move to the "Table View" and see the resulting items.

 

Here is the first difficulty. The results table is actually on the screen below the search dialog. However, it cannot be reached with keystrokes by tabbing forward, which would seem to be the obvious thing to do. Instead The keyboard user must shift back up the search dialog to get out and down to the search results!

 

 

The next complication appears when you try the "advanced find". This is a very powerful search tool and worth getting to know.

 

Here is what to do:

1. Press control+shift+f to open the advanced find dialog

Windows is actually focussing on the edit combo box but NVDA does not focus yet and so says nothing to inform you of this fact. So, just type the search argument immediately after pressing control+shift+f and your text will be in the right place. You can move back to this combo box later to check what you have typed.

2. Tab to the various fields that allow you to limit the search to different parameters. NVDA will speak them perfectly.  You can use various shortcuts such as alt+w or alt+i to go immediately to the fields that you may be familiar with from previous uses of the advanced find.

3. press alt+c to jump back to the edit combo box and see that your text is really in place. NVDA does recognise the edit combo  box this time. You can arrow up and down to find previous search terms that you have used

4. Press alt+n to activate the "Find now" button. You can also reach it by tabbing many times past the various parameters that limit your search.

5. Make sure that you are searching subfolders if your folders are held under the Inbox or they won't be searched.

6. Press enter on "find now" or press alt+n. The word "Stop" appears briefly while the search is actually taking place but the "Find Now" button reappears as soon as the search is complete. This is your only indicator that the search has taken place if there are no results from the search.

7. Press F6 to find the table of search results. If no messages are found, you will be faced with absolutely no information when you press F6. There is no message to say "not found" or any other indication. That is why it is important to open the search criteria as widely as possible to avoid getting no result.

 

The big, big problem in the "advanced find" is to find the search results when using a screen reader! Even the NVDA screen review failed to focus on the results. The only way to get there, after trying every keystroke I could think of, was the F6 key which does the trick brilliantly. However, even the F6 key was silent and did not give any information when the search was unsuccessful.

 

Happy hunting!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 


FireFox Discussion

David Russell
 

Hi NVDA Group,

- To the person requesting where to find the update settings in
FireFox, FF, I concur with the answer in the previous digest, Advance
Settings.

- What Roger describes and what someone else described concerning a
Google error message is similar to the type of thing that was
occurring when this update installed on my desktop computer two days
ago. NVDA would not announce hyphen, comma, period or other
punctuation keys when pressed, read my auto-signature in email, or
announce letters backspaced over. It would read words as I typed them
though. Other things changed as well until I did system restore going
back to the pre-update status. Not being that tech savvy, frankly, I
don't really know what the h..l to do. Gene's articles may be a good
place to start though, thanks.

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@gmail.com
"chilah phanim" Make G-d smile!


Re: NVDA and Tor browser

Aman Singer
 

Hi,

This has already been reported
https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/27503
I'm not sure whether it can be repaired at the TOR browser end, but they do seem to be aware of it. It is still possible to download the older Tor Browser 7.x and then rename the updater.exe file so that updates don't happen. Obviously, this is not a permanent or reasonable solution, but it works for now.
Aman

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 9:01 PM
To: NVDA Groups.io mailing list email <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Tor browser

Hi all,
Just yesterday, Tor browser was updated to 8.0 and after the upgrade, NVDA became totally inaccessible with the browser.
I am not sure if this is the problem that Tor has upgraded the underlying Firefox to Esr 60.2 and any possible fix for this at this moment?

Thanks.


Re: UpdateRemote Add-on issue

 

Hi,

Hmmm, looks like protocol registration routine didn’t work as expected. What NVDA and Remote add-on versions are you using?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonathan Milam
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 9:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] UpdateRemote Add-on issue

 

 

Exactly. That's what baffles me.  Just like http and https has protocols for a specific browser to work, something has to allow the nvdaremote to connect and work as well. The strange thing is that the add-on itself works perfectly if I manually connect to each computer from the connect dialog, but absolutely none of my shortcuts will work anymore.  They worked perfectly a couple of days ago, and just stopped for no logical reason.  Not even a reload of the OS fixed it.

 

 

JonathanSent from my iPhone


On Sep 7, 2018, at 11:55 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Just FYI, I just installed the NVDA Remote Add-On just to see if anything would show up in the "Apps by Protocol" list afterward and there is no change.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

 

 


Re: UpdateRemote Add-on issue

Jonathan Milam
 



Exactly. That's what baffles me.  Just like http and https has protocols for a specific browser to work, something has to allow the nvdaremote to connect and work as well. The strange thing is that the add-on itself works perfectly if I manually connect to each computer from the connect dialog, but absolutely none of my shortcuts will work anymore.  They worked perfectly a couple of days ago, and just stopped for no logical reason.  Not even a reload of the OS fixed it.


JonathanSent from my iPhone

On Sep 7, 2018, at 11:55 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Just FYI, I just installed the NVDA Remote Add-On just to see if anything would show up in the "Apps by Protocol" list afterward and there is no change.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

 

 


Re: UpdateRemote Add-on issue

 

Just FYI, I just installed the NVDA Remote Add-On just to see if anything would show up in the "Apps by Protocol" list afterward and there is no change.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

 

 


Re: NVDA and the Focus 40 Blue

Rui Fontes
 

As said in manual, install the drivers, connect it, via USB or Bluetooth and select it in NVDA...

Rui


Às 15:57 de 07/09/2018, Hermann-Josef Kurzen escreveu:

Hello there,
I would like to use the Focus 40 Blue Braille device with NVDA.
It is mentioned in the manual, but I don't know, waht's to do.
Can anybody help please?
Greetings - Hermann
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Re: UpdateRemote Add-on issue

Jonathan Milam
 

Thanks for your response. Unfortunately, I had a lokk at the default
applications within Win10 and didn't see an entry for nvdaremote. Is
this the place I should be looking or somewhere else? Since I have
multiple computers and have never seen this issue, shouldn't the
protocol automatically get set when the Add-on is installed?


Jonathan

On Sep 7, 2018, at 11:33 AM, Cohn, Jonathan <jcohn@air.org> wrote:

In a URL like this the protocol is what is before the colan, so in this case the protocol is called NVDARemote. This then needs to be associated with a specific program in the Windows defaults panel. I had trouble reviewing this panel in Windows 10 with JAWS, but I haven't really looked at it with NVDA.

Take care,

Jonathan Cohn


On 9/7/18, 10:31 AM, "nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of Jonathan Milam" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of milamj@wfu.edu> wrote:

As a follow-up to this, does anyone know which Windows protocol the NVDA
Remote add-on would use? Here is an example of what I am trying to run that
is not working. I have created an internet shortcut to:
nvdaremote://nvdaremote.com/?mode=master&key=123
Note that they key for the computer is not online now, however, the shortcut
parameters will work with any valid online key..

When I try and run this shortcut, I get a message that the application
cannot be found. I have tried uninstalling/reinstalling NVDA as well as the
new Add-on that Joseph created, which brings up another interesting issue.
I can install the Add-on from the nvdaremote.com website, but I cannot
install Joseph's add-on on this particular WIN10 computer. I get a message
that the file and application cannot be found whether I run or save it to
the Desktop first regardless of the browser. I have completely reloaded the
computer and this issue persists. It started yesterday for no reason that I
can find. Any help would be appreciated. I am running NVDA 2018.2.


Thanks,
Jonathan

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonathan Milam
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 5:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Remote Add-on issue

Hi All,

I have created shortcuts to the computers that I control remotely via
the remote add-on. For some reason, now when I click on any of them,
I get a message that the application cannot be found. Any ideas on
how this can be resolved? I have uninstalled-reinstalled NVDA and the
add-on without success. Which application actually launches these
shortcuts? They start with nvdaremote colon slash slash.

Thanks,
Jonathan

Sent from my iPhone










Re: UpdateRemote Add-on issue

Jonathan COHN
 

In a URL like this the protocol is what is before the colan, so in this case the protocol is called NVDARemote. This then needs to be associated with a specific program in the Windows defaults panel. I had trouble reviewing this panel in Windows 10 with JAWS, but I haven't really looked at it with NVDA.

Take care,

Jonathan Cohn


On 9/7/18, 10:31 AM, "nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of Jonathan Milam" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of milamj@wfu.edu> wrote:

As a follow-up to this, does anyone know which Windows protocol the NVDA
Remote add-on would use? Here is an example of what I am trying to run that
is not working. I have created an internet shortcut to:
nvdaremote://nvdaremote.com/?mode=master&key=123
Note that they key for the computer is not online now, however, the shortcut
parameters will work with any valid online key..

When I try and run this shortcut, I get a message that the application
cannot be found. I have tried uninstalling/reinstalling NVDA as well as the
new Add-on that Joseph created, which brings up another interesting issue.
I can install the Add-on from the nvdaremote.com website, but I cannot
install Joseph's add-on on this particular WIN10 computer. I get a message
that the file and application cannot be found whether I run or save it to
the Desktop first regardless of the browser. I have completely reloaded the
computer and this issue persists. It started yesterday for no reason that I
can find. Any help would be appreciated. I am running NVDA 2018.2.


Thanks,
Jonathan

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonathan Milam
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 5:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Remote Add-on issue

Hi All,

I have created shortcuts to the computers that I control remotely via
the remote add-on. For some reason, now when I click on any of them,
I get a message that the application cannot be found. Any ideas on
how this can be resolved? I have uninstalled-reinstalled NVDA and the
add-on without success. Which application actually launches these
shortcuts? They start with nvdaremote colon slash slash.

Thanks,
Jonathan

Sent from my iPhone


NVDA and the Focus 40 Blue

Hermann-Josef Kurzen
 

Hello there,

I would like to use the Focus 40 Blue Braille device with NVDA.
It is mentioned in the manual, but I don't know, waht's to do.

Can anybody help please?


Greetings - Hermann




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Re: FireFox Issues Discussion

Roger Stewart
 

On a related topic, I've been using the No Script add on for Firefox for several years now. It used to be very accessible in that all you need do is hit the context key and then you find the No Script submenue and choose your option of block the site, temporarily allow the site or trust it.  I noticed the other day I needed to unblock a site but the interface to No Script has changed so radically that I can't understand it at all.  Seems to be some kind of table or something with lots of weird sounding items in there and I have no idea of how to use it with NVDA now. Can anyone help?

Thanks.

Roger

On 9/7/2018 7:17 AM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:
thanks all, but when i go to tools then options in ff
i am not seeing the option to turn off updates
could u all tell me whare it is found?
thanks
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io" <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 2:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] FireFox Issues Discussion


Yes that is exactly why I am still using windows 7 and have waterfox on it. I do still have firefox 52, but as of the end of August no security updates are being offered for that version.

Waterfox is 64 bit only, so no good on 32 bit versions of windows.

To me as long as you do not have anyone is click happy on your machine and scan it regularly and do not visited dodgy sites anything more threatening than tracking cookies or maybe bundled rubbishware are unlikely.
Be mindful of the discussion about Ccleaner only being safe in its portable guise though.
You may find that soon many web sites may not work well with the older Firefox, needing Chrome based, Edge based or Quantum based browsers. This might affect Waterfox, but may not if they spoof the data it sends to the web site to pretend to be a later version of firefox.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Russell" <david.sonofhashem@gmail.com>
To: "nvda" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 10:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] FireFox Issues Discussion


Hello Group,

OK, I have learned a couple things since posting eight or so hours ago.

- I have FF 52. I now get one of those Do you want to allow FireFox to
install .... when going into use Mozilla FireFox, tab to the no answer
and it allows me to conduct business as usual. I can live with that.

- I also saw Davy's notice about what the update concerns, but am
reluctant to accept it because of what occurred before and was
generally described in previous posts.
- I was able to do my work and other ordinary routine today without
too much hassle.
- I have three versions of NVDA on my computer, but not sure how to
tell which is the latest working one. I use a desktop not a laptop
computer.
- I set Security Essentials to do a full scan and spyware check during
my breakfast time Friday and the computer does not have to be on for
that to occur.
Thus for now, going to leave things as they are until a better doable
resolution comes along. I have some major projects forthcoming, and
cannot afford to have my computer disabled.

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@gmail.com






.


UpdateRemote Add-on issue

Jonathan Milam
 

As a follow-up to this, does anyone know which Windows protocol the NVDA
Remote add-on would use? Here is an example of what I am trying to run that
is not working. I have created an internet shortcut to:
nvdaremote://nvdaremote.com/?mode=master&key=123
Note that they key for the computer is not online now, however, the shortcut
parameters will work with any valid online key..

When I try and run this shortcut, I get a message that the application
cannot be found. I have tried uninstalling/reinstalling NVDA as well as the
new Add-on that Joseph created, which brings up another interesting issue.
I can install the Add-on from the nvdaremote.com website, but I cannot
install Joseph's add-on on this particular WIN10 computer. I get a message
that the file and application cannot be found whether I run or save it to
the Desktop first regardless of the browser. I have completely reloaded the
computer and this issue persists. It started yesterday for no reason that I
can find. Any help would be appreciated. I am running NVDA 2018.2.


Thanks,
Jonathan

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonathan Milam
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 5:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Remote Add-on issue

Hi All,

I have created shortcuts to the computers that I control remotely via
the remote add-on. For some reason, now when I click on any of them,
I get a message that the application cannot be found. Any ideas on
how this can be resolved? I have uninstalled-reinstalled NVDA and the
add-on without success. Which application actually launches these
shortcuts? They start with nvdaremote colon slash slash.

Thanks,
Jonathan

Sent from my iPhone


Re: FireFox Issues Discussion

Brice Mijares
 

tools, to options, advance, tab twice, arrow up or down to updates.

On 9/7/2018 5:17 AM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:
thanks all, but when i go to tools then options in ff
i am not seeing the option to turn off updates
could u all tell me whare it is found?
thanks
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io" <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 2:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] FireFox Issues Discussion

Yes that is exactly why I am still using windows 7 and have waterfox on it. I do still have firefox 52, but as of the end of August no security updates are being offered for that version.

Waterfox is 64 bit only, so no good on 32 bit versions of windows.

To me as long as you do not have anyone is click happy on your machine and scan it regularly and do not visited dodgy sites anything more threatening than tracking cookies or maybe bundled rubbishware are unlikely.
Be mindful of the discussion about Ccleaner only being safe in its portable guise though.
You may find that soon many web sites may not work well with the older Firefox, needing Chrome based, Edge based or Quantum based browsers. This might affect Waterfox, but may not if they spoof the data it sends to the web site to pretend to be a later version of firefox.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Russell" <david.sonofhashem@gmail.com>
To: "nvda" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 10:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] FireFox Issues Discussion


Hello Group,

OK, I have learned a couple things since posting eight or so hours ago.

- I have FF 52. I now get one of those Do you want to allow FireFox to
install .... when going into use Mozilla FireFox, tab to the no answer
and it allows me to conduct business as usual. I can live with that.

- I also saw Davy's notice about what the update concerns, but am
reluctant to accept it because of what occurred before and was
generally described in previous posts.
- I was able to do my work and other ordinary routine today without
too much hassle.
- I have three versions of NVDA on my computer, but not sure how to
tell which is the latest working one. I use a desktop not a laptop
computer.
- I set Security Essentials to do a full scan and spyware check during
my breakfast time Friday and the computer does not have to be on for
that to occur.
Thus for now, going to leave things as they are until a better doable
resolution comes along. I have some major projects forthcoming, and
cannot afford to have my computer disabled.

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@gmail.com





Re: single key command for paragraph by paragraph navigation

Ann Byrne
 

Ctrl+down arrow will do it.  This is an Office command, not a screen reader command.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Kingett
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 6:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] single key command for paragraph by paragraph navigation

 

I've been looking for this for years and have yet to find one. I have no idea why this is so hard to find.


Re: FireFox Issues Discussion

Kerryn Gunness <k_gunness@...>
 

thanks all, but when i go to tools then options in ff
i am not seeing the option to turn off updates
could u all tell me whare it is found?
thanks

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io" <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 2:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] FireFox Issues Discussion


Yes that is exactly why I am still using windows 7 and have waterfox on it. I do still have firefox 52, but as of the end of August no security updates are being offered for that version.

Waterfox is 64 bit only, so no good on 32 bit versions of windows.

To me as long as you do not have anyone is click happy on your machine and scan it regularly and do not visited dodgy sites anything more threatening than tracking cookies or maybe bundled rubbishware are unlikely.
Be mindful of the discussion about Ccleaner only being safe in its portable guise though.
You may find that soon many web sites may not work well with the older Firefox, needing Chrome based, Edge based or Quantum based browsers. This might affect Waterfox, but may not if they spoof the data it sends to the web site to pretend to be a later version of firefox.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Russell" <david.sonofhashem@gmail.com>
To: "nvda" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 10:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] FireFox Issues Discussion


Hello Group,

OK, I have learned a couple things since posting eight or so hours ago.

- I have FF 52. I now get one of those Do you want to allow FireFox to
install .... when going into use Mozilla FireFox, tab to the no answer
and it allows me to conduct business as usual. I can live with that.

- I also saw Davy's notice about what the update concerns, but am
reluctant to accept it because of what occurred before and was
generally described in previous posts.
- I was able to do my work and other ordinary routine today without
too much hassle.
- I have three versions of NVDA on my computer, but not sure how to
tell which is the latest working one. I use a desktop not a laptop
computer.
- I set Security Essentials to do a full scan and spyware check during
my breakfast time Friday and the computer does not have to be on for
that to occur.
Thus for now, going to leave things as they are until a better doable
resolution comes along. I have some major projects forthcoming, and
cannot afford to have my computer disabled.

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@gmail.com




Re: Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to use the programme?

Mallard
 

Thanks. Yes, I don't intend to surf the dark web... lol! Not interested in such stuff...

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 07/09/2018 12:19, Hareth ha scritto:
It doesn't really needs a tutorial to use,
If you don't want to advance customize it, its nothing more than a
modified firefox browser made only to redirect your internet browsing
traffic through multi PC's in different countries to keep it away from
the censorship eyes.
In simpler term a heavy privacy internet browser.
Take care


On 9/7/18, Mallard <mallard@kimabe.eu> wrote:
Hello list,

I've been wanting to use Tor for a whle, more out of curiosity than of
real need, but have never found anyone to give me clues.

Is there any tutorial available, possibly in text, but also in audio for
lack of text?

Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
Ciao,
Ollie




Re: Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to use the programme?

Mallard
 

Thanks Gene,


I think I even had an old version somewhere, but I can't find it anymore. It must have been lost with one of my hard drives before we set up a home server.


If ou could share the version you have, I'd be very grateful.

I know how to use Firefox, or at least I think so... I've used it for so many years... lol!
Ciao, thanks in advance.
Ollie

Il 07/09/2018 12:36, Gene ha scritto:
I've hardly used it.  But if you go to the Tor web site, I would expect an explanation is given about why someone would want to use it.  As I recall, there is.  Tor is the Firefox browser, modified to perform the services that are explained. Since the new version is evidently inaccessible, using the portable version, though I believe it's very old and security may be of concern, may help.  Or, I have what I believe is the last version before it was made inaccessible.  I may consider placing it in my Drop Box account.  I have also found sites that offer one or more old versions but I don't know how reliable or safe these sites are.  others may wish to comment.
You don't need a tutorial if you know how to use Firefox and even if you don't, there is very little to learn if all you want to do is browse, just as is the case with firefox.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Mallard <mailto:mallard@kimabe.eu>
*Sent:* Friday, September 07, 2018 3:26 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to use the programme?

Hello list,

I've been wanting to use Tor for a whle, more out of curiosity than of
real need, but have never found anyone to give me clues.

Is there any tutorial available, possibly in text, but also in audio for
lack of text?

Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
Ciao,
Ollie



Re: single key command for paragraph by paragraph navigation

 

I've been looking for this for years and have yet to find one. I have no idea why this is so hard to find.


Re: Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to use the programme?

Gene
 

I will if comments don't indicate that the sites where earlier versions are available are safe.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: The Wolf
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 5:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to use the programme?

can you put it in your dropbox folder?

On 9/7/2018 3:36 AM, Gene wrote:
I've hardly used it.  But if you go to the Tor web site, I would expect an explanation is given about why someone would want to use it.  As I recall, there is.  Tor is the Firefox browser, modified to perform the services that are explained.  Since the new version is evidently inaccessible, using the portable version, though I believe it's very old and security may be of concern, may help.  Or, I have what I believe is the last version before it was made inaccessible.  I may consider placing it in my Drop Box account.  I have also found sites that offer one or more old versions but I don't know how reliable or safe these sites are.  others may wish to comment.
 
You don't need a tutorial if you know how to use Firefox and even if you don't, there is very little to learn if all you want to do is browse, just as is the case with firefox.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Mallard
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 3:26 AM
Subject: [nvda] Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to use the programme?

Hello list,

I've been wanting to use Tor for a whle, more out of curiosity than of
real need, but have never found anyone to give me clues.

Is there any tutorial available, possibly in text, but also in audio for
lack of text?

Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
Ciao,
Ollie



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