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Re: OT: mailing list for accessibility and HAM radio equipment?

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I do not know of any lists but if you have a newsreader, as in usenet, I'm sure I've seen some of those still active, but they tend to be general.
All I know is that modern Icom radios like the 7300 being touch screen, need something called a hambox or similar made in the US that adds buttons etc for the inaccessible touch controls.
It also speaks.


What have you searched for?
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Beaver" <dbeaver888@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>; <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 2:55 PM
Subject: [nvda] OT: mailing list for accessibility and HAM radio equipment?


Hi, sorry for the off topic post but I need to find out some info and can't seem to find this looking for myself.




Is there a mailing list for accessibility and HAM radio equipment? I found a small amount of info just searching for accessibility and HAM equipment but it just doesn't seem very detailed or useful for that matter.




Just a pointer to any lists would be very appreciated.





Thanks.




Dan Beaver



Re: NVDA and FireFox Issues Follow-up

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What is the status of Seamonkey these days?

Others would suggest getting used to Chrome which today apparently has a new skin look but should not affect the screenreader use.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and FireFox Issues Follow-up


Well if this is mozilla and it could be, then these regressions need reporting.

I'd personally use waterfox myself which still works.



On 9/6/2018 11:36 PM, David Russell wrote:
Hello Members,

I just read through the recent digest with exchanges between Gene and Shaun.

The reply by Shaun best describes what occurred. I was at
dictionary.com and had just sent in an email request to subscribe.
Moments later, I heard a beep tone and was informed FireFox was
updating. It took a few moments.
I then had the option to change search engines, or do not change
search engines, and I chose do not change.
I was somewhat in surprise at all this occurring.
I googled something about updates and learned that malicious updates
are on the rise as Gene indicated.
Scrolling through the program menu, my browser was now identified as
just FireFox not Mozilla FireFox.
Settings were changed.
Keyboard functions such as backspace, hyphen, period, comma, were not
read when pressed. My auto-signature was not read when in email. I had
to forward tab once when going to a website to access the link wanted.
Shall I say more?

I later changed the update criteria in advance settings after
restoring my computer to an earlier time. Now, updates are told to me
when they want to occur and I either say yes or ask me later.

I cannot ascertain for certain if this is Mozilla or a hack.
Nonetheless, It appears Mozilla as known, is returned. It's supposed
update occurred in November 2017.
No background service is doing any installations for me under the
current criteria. I'll be darn careful and use my MS Security
Essentials regularly.


Re: NVDA and FireFox Update

Davy Cuppens
 

Hi folks

I will tell you what the update is about.

A gang of legal belgian hackers found a leak in firefox so that mallicious stuff or people can get access to your e-mail accounts on your pc. They reported the issue to Mozilla which immediately has brought out a patch to close the leak.
Regards
Davy

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
From: David Russell
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 11:17 PM
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and FireFox Update

Hello Group Mem bers,

I believe I received a legitamate Firefox update today and did a full
virus scan via MS Security Essentials to ensure things as much as
possible. Yet I am suspicious but made changes in my options settings
so updates would be by choice rather than automatic. How do I go
about getting back full NVDA function so when I backspace I hear the
letters I am spacing over? Some of the punctuation keys like , - . do
not speak when pressed. Thanks.

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Re: NVDA and FireFox Issues Follow-up

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Although sort of accessible it can sometimes need you to use screen nav, superantispyware has found quite a few nasty things that msse has missed recently.
Its free, but does keep pestering you to register and honestly until they fix the access issues its probably not going to happen but underneath that its a good product to run manually from time to time. Others may also have their favourites.


I'm not quite sure how a Firefox update can change nvda options though, so wonder what else might be going on here.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Russell" <david.sonofhashem@gmail.com>
To: "nvda" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 12:36 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and FireFox Issues Follow-up


Hello Members,

I just read through the recent digest with exchanges between Gene and Shaun.

The reply by Shaun best describes what occurred. I was at
dictionary.com and had just sent in an email request to subscribe.
Moments later, I heard a beep tone and was informed FireFox was
updating. It took a few moments.
I then had the option to change search engines, or do not change
search engines, and I chose do not change.
I was somewhat in surprise at all this occurring.
I googled something about updates and learned that malicious updates
are on the rise as Gene indicated.
Scrolling through the program menu, my browser was now identified as
just FireFox not Mozilla FireFox.
Settings were changed.
Keyboard functions such as backspace, hyphen, period, comma, were not
read when pressed. My auto-signature was not read when in email. I had
to forward tab once when going to a website to access the link wanted.
Shall I say more?

I later changed the update criteria in advance settings after
restoring my computer to an earlier time. Now, updates are told to me
when they want to occur and I either say yes or ask me later.

I cannot ascertain for certain if this is Mozilla or a hack.
Nonetheless, It appears Mozilla as known, is returned. It's supposed
update occurred in November 2017.
No background service is doing any installations for me under the
current criteria. I'll be darn careful and use my MS Security
Essentials regularly.

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@gmail.com
"chilah phanim" Make G-d


Re: irc with braille

Jason White
 

Try irssi under Windows Subsystem for Linux, or if that isn't available to
you, I suppose Cygwin or msysv2.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Tew via
Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 2:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] irc with braille

Do yall know an irc client that works with braille?
My linux pc seems to have died; lightning maybe.
so may be forced to try windows.
I tried mirc and get audio but no braille.
Suggestions much appreciated. I have been ircing for 20+ years.
Would really miss it.


OT: mailing list for accessibility and HAM radio equipment?

Dan Beaver
 

Hi, sorry for the off topic post but I need to find out some info and can't seem to find this looking for myself.


Is there a mailing list for accessibility and HAM radio equipment?  I found a small amount of info just searching for accessibility and HAM equipment but it just doesn't seem very detailed or useful for that matter.


Just a pointer to any lists  would be very appreciated.


Thanks.


Dan Beaver


my OCR not working issue

Casey <cwollner@...>
 

Hi just checking in with you to find out if development got back to your yet?

On the two folders you pass on to them that I sent you as to why my OCR future isn't working.

I hope they find out something soon cause if it is A future that people need to use it would be nice if it worked reliably.

So thank you for working with me on this and please let me know when you find something out.



--

Casey


single key command for paragraph by paragraph navigation

Akshaya Choudhary
 

Hi guys! I do a a lot of text reviewing and often I prefer to read paragraph by paragraph. Currently, we need to use Ctrl with up  or down arrow keys to do the same. Can you guys suggest me a way to assign a single key for this task? or is there an add-on for the same? It would be very convenient to replace a double key combo with just a single key command, like it is there in JAWS.
--
Regards,
Sociohack


Re: weird mozilla firefox update

Don H
 

Each browser has it good and bad points.  I use Google Chrome more than any other and find Internet Explorer having more and more issues with certain web sites.

Just haven't really given  Edge a good try and really don't know why. other than stuck in my old habits

On 9/6/2018 7:35 AM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:
yup
i think i might switch to crome, what u all think

----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 4:03 PM
Subject: [nvda] weird mozilla firefox update


Hi.

well, there was an update aparently we are up to firefox 62x.








Re: weird mozilla firefox update

Kerryn Gunness <k_gunness@...>
 

yup
i think i might switch to crome, what u all think

----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 4:03 PM
Subject: [nvda] weird mozilla firefox update


Hi.

well, there was an update aparently we are up to firefox 62x.




Re: Remote Add-on issue

Jonathan Milam
 



I am using the latest official release and the connection works fine if I connect through Tools, Remote, but not through the shortcuts I've created.Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 5, 2018, at 9:43 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Have you read the topic:   Advisory... once again (and one last time): NVDA Remote 2.1 (without patch) is incompatible with NVDA 2018.3 and future releases ?

Not knowing what release or releases of NVDA are at play it's difficult to give any specific advice.
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Re: Special characters using NVDA

Rui Fontes
 

Ok, tested with last Alpha version of NVDA and it do not works...

I will see if I can correct it...

Rui Fontes


Às 11:40 de 06/09/2018, Rui Fontes escreveu:

Hello!
It is also possible to use a addon to input special characters...It can be found on:
https://jeff.tdrealms.com/Add-Ons/Symbols.nvda-addon
Please note that I don't believe it will work reliably on NVDA last versions due to WXPython changes...
I will investigate...
Best regards,
Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team
Às 04:02 de 06/09/2018, Lino Morales escreveu:
Hi Quentin I’ll let her know what you said. I’ll paste what you said in the comments on said group. Thanks.

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*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org>
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 5, 2018 10:59:29 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Special characters using NVDA
Hi Lino,

I'm not familiar with the Jaws special character entry, but there are several ways of entering alternate characters.

For learning Spanish, I would perhaps be inclined to install the Spanish language in Windows, including keyboard.  Then using WINDOWS+SPACEBAR you can change keyboard layout between languages.

Windows character map also works.  The symbol entry dialog in Word doesn't work overly well, but once you have entered symbols with it, to reuse them again is much easier.

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 12:23 PM, Lino Morales <linomorales001@gmail.com <mailto:linomorales001@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Hi Joseph etc. Is their a way you or somebody who could create an
    issue on Github? Someone on a FB group I’m on wanted to know if this
    student she’s teaching can use the special characters like in JAWS
    I.E JAWS key plus 4. I know this doesn’t exist in NVDA. This student
    is learning Spanish and uses NVDA. Thanks.

    __ __

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Re: NVDA and FireFox Issues Follow-up

 

Well if this is mozilla and it could be, then these regressions need reporting.

I'd personally use waterfox myself which still works.

On 9/6/2018 11:36 PM, David Russell wrote:
Hello Members,

I just read through the recent digest with exchanges between Gene and Shaun.

The reply by Shaun best describes what occurred. I was at
dictionary.com and had just sent in an email request to subscribe.
Moments later, I heard a beep tone and was informed FireFox was
updating. It took a few moments.
I then had the option to change search engines, or do not change
search engines, and I chose do not change.
I was somewhat in surprise at all this occurring.
I googled something about updates and learned that malicious updates
are on the rise as Gene indicated.
Scrolling through the program menu, my browser was now identified as
just FireFox not Mozilla FireFox.
Settings were changed.
Keyboard functions such as backspace, hyphen, period, comma, were not
read when pressed. My auto-signature was not read when in email. I had
to forward tab once when going to a website to access the link wanted.
Shall I say more?

I later changed the update criteria in advance settings after
restoring my computer to an earlier time. Now, updates are told to me
when they want to occur and I either say yes or ask me later.

I cannot ascertain for certain if this is Mozilla or a hack.
Nonetheless, It appears Mozilla as known, is returned. It's supposed
update occurred in November 2017.
No background service is doing any installations for me under the
current criteria. I'll be darn careful and use my MS Security
Essentials regularly.


NVDA and FireFox Issues Follow-up

David Russell
 

Hello Members,

I just read through the recent digest with exchanges between Gene and Shaun.

The reply by Shaun best describes what occurred. I was at
dictionary.com and had just sent in an email request to subscribe.
Moments later, I heard a beep tone and was informed FireFox was
updating. It took a few moments.
I then had the option to change search engines, or do not change
search engines, and I chose do not change.
I was somewhat in surprise at all this occurring.
I googled something about updates and learned that malicious updates
are on the rise as Gene indicated.
Scrolling through the program menu, my browser was now identified as
just FireFox not Mozilla FireFox.
Settings were changed.
Keyboard functions such as backspace, hyphen, period, comma, were not
read when pressed. My auto-signature was not read when in email. I had
to forward tab once when going to a website to access the link wanted.
Shall I say more?

I later changed the update criteria in advance settings after
restoring my computer to an earlier time. Now, updates are told to me
when they want to occur and I either say yes or ask me later.

I cannot ascertain for certain if this is Mozilla or a hack.
Nonetheless, It appears Mozilla as known, is returned. It's supposed
update occurred in November 2017.
No background service is doing any installations for me under the
current criteria. I'll be darn careful and use my MS Security
Essentials regularly.

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@gmail.com
"chilah phanim" Make G-d


Regarding the Usability of Google Docs

 

Hi All,


On my first day of high school, I learned that Google Docs will soon be a requirement for completing documents. I am wondering if anyone has any usability suggestions for using Google docs with NVDA. Any tips, tricks, ETC. are very much appreciated.


Noah


NVDA and FireFox Issues Partially Resolved

David Russell
 

Hello NVDA Group,

With the aid of my wife, we did a system restore, and I set the
updates in FireFox advance settings to off and be asked when they want
to be installed.
The first occurrence of this update, or whatever it is, occurred mid
morning, September 5, and all I heard was a beep tone and info that
FireFox was updating. Of course, unbeknownst to me, my settings were
then different. I was at dictionary.com trying to sign up for their
daily email.

I have three versions of NVDA on my Windows 7 computer. When I
activate the check for updates function as someone advised here
recently, it does not work.
I either have Firefox 60 or 62, not sure. This update is said to be
critical and I said, Ask later. It throws too much off in terms of
basic keyboard functions if accepted. Backspacing goes silent,
auto-signature cannot be read, etc. I don't need the hassle. Thanks.

--
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Re: NVDA and FireFox Update

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Increasingly though add blockers are stopping you getting onto web sites. Recently I have also found that embedded google calendars often fail if an add blocker is loaded, and you may need to change the default settings. Life should not have to be this complicated.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 12:37 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and FireFox Update


So assuming the person who asked the question was using the defaults, third party advertising on the site had been hacked and showed a milicious update that wasn't an update at all. But we'll have to know more before drawing any conclusion.

I'm not trying to worry the person but if that is the case, he should thoroughly check or have his machine checked for malware.

The site Dictionary.com is a reputable site but third party hacked advertising is becoming increasingly common. It's so common that it was written about as a serious threat in the New York Times two or three months ago. and there may be a hacked advertisement on that site now.

Which is why people should use an ad blocker or for even better protection, block scripts. But an ad blocker should protect you from most such threats.

Gene
----- Original message -----

From: Kwork
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 6:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and FireFox Update


If you leave Firefox at the default update setting, the way you'll know it's updating from a screenreader perspective is on a restart. As the program opens, it'll say updating, then restart. I have it turned off so I can update when I choose.

On 9/5/2018 3:47 PM, Gene wrote:

I manually update firefox so I don't recall, from a long time ago, what happens when it automatically updates. Does it just happen and you are asked to reboot when it is finished? We need to know what happended in this case and what should happen.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 5:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and FireFox Update


Well probably not, firefox has something called mozilla update service,
and most likely it just got it, it can do this without a user having to
do anything you wouldn't notice, one day you would be online, you close
the brouser you open it and bang either you get a message its updating
or maybe its all running by itself and its going.



On 9/6/2018 10:13 AM, Gene wrote:
> In a previous message, you said you got it while on a web site. How did you get it? Did Firefox itself show you information or was there a web page telling you to update? What did the message say? I have no idea if it is a legitimate update but maybe with more specific information, it can be determined
>
> Was the message the same as with previous updates?
>
> Gene
> ----- Original message -----
> From: David Russell
> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 4:17 PM
> To: nvda
> Subject: [nvda] NVDA and FireFox Update
>
>
> Hello Group Mem bers,
>
> I believe I received a legitamate Firefox update today and did a full
> virus scan via MS Security Essentials to ensure things as much as
> possible. Yet I am suspicious but made changes in my options settings
> so updates would be by choice rather than automatic. How do I go
> about getting back full NVDA function so when I backspace I hear the
> letters I am spacing over? Some of the punctuation keys like , - . do
> not speak when pressed. Thanks.
>


Re: NVDA and FireFox Update

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You are told it needs to restart to update and you do and it does.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 11:47 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and FireFox Update


I manually update firefox so I don't recall, from a long time ago, what happens when it automatically updates. Does it just happen and you are asked to reboot when it is finished? We need to know what happended in this case and what should happen.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 5:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and FireFox Update


Well probably not, firefox has something called mozilla update service,
and most likely it just got it, it can do this without a user having to
do anything you wouldn't notice, one day you would be online, you close
the brouser you open it and bang either you get a message its updating
or maybe its all running by itself and its going.



On 9/6/2018 10:13 AM, Gene wrote:
In a previous message, you said you got it while on a web site. How did you get it? Did Firefox itself show you information or was there a web page telling you to update? What did the message say? I have no idea if it is a legitimate update but maybe with more specific information, it can be determined

Was the message the same as with previous updates?

Gene
----- Original message -----
From: David Russell
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 4:17 PM
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and FireFox Update


Hello Group Mem bers,

I believe I received a legitamate Firefox update today and did a full
virus scan via MS Security Essentials to ensure things as much as
possible. Yet I am suspicious but made changes in my options settings
so updates would be by choice rather than automatic. How do I go
about getting back full NVDA function so when I backspace I hear the
letters I am spacing over? Some of the punctuation keys like , - . do
not speak when pressed. Thanks.


Re: NVDA and FireFox Update

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Well you will need to look at the nvda preferences I'd imagine and change things back to how you want them.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Russell" <david.sonofhashem@gmail.com>
To: "nvda" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 10:17 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and FireFox Update


Hello Group Mem bers,

I believe I received a legitamate Firefox update today and did a full
virus scan via MS Security Essentials to ensure things as much as
possible. Yet I am suspicious but made changes in my options settings
so updates would be by choice rather than automatic. How do I go
about getting back full NVDA function so when I backspace I hear the
letters I am spacing over? Some of the punctuation keys like , - . do
not speak when pressed. Thanks.

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@gmail.com
"chilah phanim" Make G-d smile!



Re: Special characters using NVDA

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

It is also possible to use a addon to input special characters...It can be found on:
https://jeff.tdrealms.com/Add-Ons/Symbols.nvda-addon

Please note that I don't believe it will work reliably on NVDA last versions due to WXPython changes...

I will investigate...

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team


Às 04:02 de 06/09/2018, Lino Morales escreveu:

Hi Quentin I’ll let her know what you said. I’ll paste what you said in the comments on said group. Thanks.
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*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org>
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 5, 2018 10:59:29 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Special characters using NVDA
Hi Lino,
I'm not familiar with the Jaws special character entry, but there are several ways of entering alternate characters.
For learning Spanish, I would perhaps be inclined to install the Spanish language in Windows, including keyboard.  Then using WINDOWS+SPACEBAR you can change keyboard layout between languages.
Windows character map also works.  The symbol entry dialog in Word doesn't work overly well, but once you have entered symbols with it, to reuse them again is much easier.
Regards
Quentin.
On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 12:23 PM, Lino Morales <linomorales001@gmail.com <mailto:linomorales001@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Joseph etc. Is their a way you or somebody who could create an
issue on Github? Someone on a FB group I’m on wanted to know if this
student she’s teaching can use the special characters like in JAWS
I.E JAWS key plus 4. I know this doesn’t exist in NVDA. This student
is learning Spanish and uses NVDA. Thanks.
__ __
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