Date   

weird mozilla firefox update

 

Hi.

well, there was an update aparently we are up to firefox 62x.


Re: nvda rc versions

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

hi


NVDA has just gone to beta 4 as of last night  so it looks as though the
Rc release has been put back.  This is for nvda 2018.3 beta 4


Gene nz

On 30/08/2018 3:27 AM, Bobby Vinton wrote:
Hay I was wondering when nvda 2018.3 RC 1 will be out.  I was also
wondering if you were still doing RC builds any more with the new
changes in nv access?  Just let me know.




Re: Fake FireFox Update

Gene
 

Any update won't come from a site.  It will come from within the program itself.  Short of getting something like a script blocker, there may be nothing you can do.  I would suggest keeping up with security news by subscribing to something like the Komando newsletter, which keeps readers informed about various scams and malicious activities such as what you are describing.  I'm not saying you should use the Komando newsletter, I'm saying that that is one example. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 2:31 PM
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] Fake FireFox Update

Hello NVDA Group,

Earlier today I was at the dictionary.com website when my browsing was
interrupted with receiving what I thought was a Mozilla Firefox
update. I became suspicious as the hours went by because when I would
get on the link for my browser in the programs menu, it identified it
as just "firefox."

Also, I had to tab forward each time I wanted to activate a Google
search. I discovered from some reading that fake updates occur
occasionally at any given website. Mozilla says they will not just
barge in an update one's browser. I did a system restore which
hopefully corrected the problem.
Beware, is all I am saying. If anyone knows how to stop these
instantly, please share!

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@...



Fake FireFox Update

David Russell
 

Hello NVDA Group,

Earlier today I was at the dictionary.com website when my browsing was
interrupted with receiving what I thought was a Mozilla Firefox
update. I became suspicious as the hours went by because when I would
get on the link for my browser in the programs menu, it identified it
as just "firefox."

Also, I had to tab forward each time I wanted to activate a Google
search. I discovered from some reading that fake updates occur
occasionally at any given website. Mozilla says they will not just
barge in an update one's browser. I did a system restore which
hopefully corrected the problem.
Beware, is all I am saying. If anyone knows how to stop these
instantly, please share!

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@gmail.com


Re: To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error noise

Gene
 

I'm sorry, I don't waste time arguing with someone who's only response is personal attacks.  I will not respond again but I leave you the last word, if you want it. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error noise

Unlike your own messages , being dismissive and disparaging

To anyone with a answer which contradicts your way of doing things or opinion

 

From: Gene
Sent: 05 September 2018 16:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error noise

 

I didn't say it would fall over.  You might not be so dismissive in your tone.  I told you what happened when I tried it.  I didn't say a word about falling over or not being able to be used or anything of the sort.  There was some problem that occurred, such as perhaps an error message.  If that has changed, fine.  But your tone is dismissive and almost disparaging. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 9:11 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error noise

 

Actually I was only proving the point that the wave sounds are not necessary and nvda wont fall over without them , like some claim here

 

 

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: 05 September 2018 14:10
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error noise

 

Well that is fine but its not ideal. It only has sounds to indicate certain

things, if you take them away then they are all gone!

Brian

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 12:55 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error

noise

 

 

Well that’s odd, no error.wav file, no problem here

In fact I removed the waves folder entirely, and guess what, nvda still

works without any sound how about that?

 

How do you explain that one?

 

 

 

From: Gene

Sent: 05 September 2018 12:42

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error

noise

 

See a recent message I sent. If you just delete the file, there will be some

sort of problem when NVDA wants to play the file and it isn't there.

Renaming will cause the same problem because the actual file can't be found.

Either alter the file that is already there or put a different one in with

the same name.

 

Gene

----- Ortiginal Message -----

From: Chris via Groups.Io

Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 6:34 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error

noise

 

Or you could just delete or rename the error.wav file in your program

files\nvda\wave folder

I guess it depends how much messing around you want to do 😃

 

 

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io

Sent: 05 September 2018 11:59

To: nvda@groups.io

Subject: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error noise

 

 

The link below is a very much quietened error noise with soft start and

stop and a batch file to copy it into the right place on an installed copy

of nvda.

Its in a zip file.

Just download it and extract the two files to a place you want them to go.

Then when you get an update and the loud error comes back, run the batch

file and relax till the next update.

I've only automated what can be a bit of a faff about if you are trying to

do it in a hurry.

Make sure both files are in the same folder though. Also if you want you

can replace the error.wav with any wav file you like even silence, though

this is not actually recommended as the whole point of error noises is to

alert you of erm an error!

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/z2v3hhk6ifpdsv3/error-copy.zip?dl=1

 

 

Hope this helps with the hearing.

And now some gentle sounds of waves lapping against a shore.... no not

really!

 

 

 

 

bglists@...

Sent via blueyonder.

Please address personal E-mail to:-

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Re: To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error noise

Don H
 

I just renamed the error.wav and had no issues. 

On 9/5/2018 11:31 AM, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:

Unlike your own messages , being dismissive and disparaging

To anyone with a answer which contradicts your way of doing things or opinion

 

From: Gene
Sent: 05 September 2018 16:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error noise

 

I didn't say it would fall over.  You might not be so dismissive in your tone.  I told you what happened when I tried it.  I didn't say a word about falling over or not being able to be used or anything of the sort.  There was some problem that occurred, such as perhaps an error message.  If that has changed, fine.  But your tone is dismissive and almost disparaging. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 9:11 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error noise

 

Actually I was only proving the point that the wave sounds are not necessary and nvda wont fall over without them , like some claim here

 

 

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: 05 September 2018 14:10
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error noise

 

Well that is fine but its not ideal. It only has sounds to indicate certain

things, if you take them away then they are all gone!

Brian

 

bglists@...

Sent via blueyonder.

Please address personal E-mail to:-

briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'

in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----

From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 12:55 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error

noise

 

 

Well that’s odd, no error.wav file, no problem here

In fact I removed the waves folder entirely, and guess what, nvda still

works without any sound how about that?

 

How do you explain that one?

 

 

 

From: Gene

Sent: 05 September 2018 12:42

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error

noise

 

See a recent message I sent. If you just delete the file, there will be some

sort of problem when NVDA wants to play the file and it isn't there.

Renaming will cause the same problem because the actual file can't be found.

Either alter the file that is already there or put a different one in with

the same name.

 

Gene

----- Ortiginal Message -----

From: Chris via Groups.Io

Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 6:34 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error

noise

 

Or you could just delete or rename the error.wav file in your program

files\nvda\wave folder

I guess it depends how much messing around you want to do 😃

 

 

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io

Sent: 05 September 2018 11:59

To: nvda@groups.io

Subject: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error noise

 

 

The link below is a very much quietened error noise with soft start and

stop and a batch file to copy it into the right place on an installed copy

of nvda.

Its in a zip file.

Just download it and extract the two files to a place you want them to go.

Then when you get an update and the loud error comes back, run the batch

file and relax till the next update.

I've only automated what can be a bit of a faff about if you are trying to

do it in a hurry.

Make sure both files are in the same folder though. Also if you want you

can replace the error.wav with any wav file you like even silence, though

this is not actually recommended as the whole point of error noises is to

alert you of erm an error!

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/z2v3hhk6ifpdsv3/error-copy.zip?dl=1

 

 

Hope this helps with the hearing.

And now some gentle sounds of waves lapping against a shore.... no not

really!

 

 

 

 

bglists@...

Sent via blueyonder.

Please address personal E-mail to:-

briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'

in the display name field.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error noise

Chris
 

Unlike your own messages , being dismissive and disparaging

To anyone with a answer which contradicts your way of doing things or opinion

 

From: Gene
Sent: 05 September 2018 16:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error noise

 

I didn't say it would fall over.  You might not be so dismissive in your tone.  I told you what happened when I tried it.  I didn't say a word about falling over or not being able to be used or anything of the sort.  There was some problem that occurred, such as perhaps an error message.  If that has changed, fine.  But your tone is dismissive and almost disparaging. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 9:11 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error noise

 

Actually I was only proving the point that the wave sounds are not necessary and nvda wont fall over without them , like some claim here

 

 

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: 05 September 2018 14:10
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error noise

 

Well that is fine but its not ideal. It only has sounds to indicate certain

things, if you take them away then they are all gone!

Brian

 

bglists@...

Sent via blueyonder.

Please address personal E-mail to:-

briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'

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----- Original Message -----

From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 12:55 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error

noise

 

 

Well that’s odd, no error.wav file, no problem here

In fact I removed the waves folder entirely, and guess what, nvda still

works without any sound how about that?

 

How do you explain that one?

 

 

 

From: Gene

Sent: 05 September 2018 12:42

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error

noise

 

See a recent message I sent. If you just delete the file, there will be some

sort of problem when NVDA wants to play the file and it isn't there.

Renaming will cause the same problem because the actual file can't be found.

Either alter the file that is already there or put a different one in with

the same name.

 

Gene

----- Ortiginal Message -----

From: Chris via Groups.Io

Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 6:34 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error

noise

 

Or you could just delete or rename the error.wav file in your program

files\nvda\wave folder

I guess it depends how much messing around you want to do 😃

 

 

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io

Sent: 05 September 2018 11:59

To: nvda@groups.io

Subject: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error noise

 

 

The link below is a very much quietened error noise with soft start and

stop and a batch file to copy it into the right place on an installed copy

of nvda.

Its in a zip file.

Just download it and extract the two files to a place you want them to go.

Then when you get an update and the loud error comes back, run the batch

file and relax till the next update.

I've only automated what can be a bit of a faff about if you are trying to

do it in a hurry.

Make sure both files are in the same folder though. Also if you want you

can replace the error.wav with any wav file you like even silence, though

this is not actually recommended as the whole point of error noises is to

alert you of erm an error!

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/z2v3hhk6ifpdsv3/error-copy.zip?dl=1

 

 

Hope this helps with the hearing.

And now some gentle sounds of waves lapping against a shore.... no not

really!

 

 

 

 

bglists@...

Sent via blueyonder.

Please address personal E-mail to:-

briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'

in the display name field.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: *Sending Again* Regarding Google Docs with NVDA

 

It would help if you describe the problems you are having.

Also, can you not just download the various docs to local copies and open using Office?  I've done that in the past.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

 

 


Re: got the movie to play

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

Excellent.

 

I think you’ll like it.

 

I still use winamp for all my music and am pretty happy, but VLC has been my video player since 2011 and I’ll never look back. It can do a lot of things that Winamp was never designed to do without plugins and will play just about any format I throw at it, though having the Klite codec pack probably helps.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: September 4, 2018 9:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] got the movie to play

 

Hi, everyone,

 

I finally was able to get the movie to play with VLC media player. It'll take some time getting used to it but I think I'll be able to work with it.

 

Thank you all for your help.

 

Rosemarie

 

 


Re: To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error noise

Gene
 

I didn't say it would fall over.  You might not be so dismissive in your tone.  I told you what happened when I tried it.  I didn't say a word about falling over or not being able to be used or anything of the sort.  There was some problem that occurred, such as perhaps an error message.  If that has changed, fine.  But your tone is dismissive and almost disparaging. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error noise

Actually I was only proving the point that the wave sounds are not necessary and nvda wont fall over without them , like some claim here

 

 

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: 05 September 2018 14:10
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error noise

 

Well that is fine but its not ideal. It only has sounds to indicate certain

things, if you take them away then they are all gone!

Brian

 

bglists@...

Sent via blueyonder.

Please address personal E-mail to:-

briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'

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----- Original Message -----

From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 12:55 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error

noise

 

 

Well that’s odd, no error.wav file, no problem here

In fact I removed the waves folder entirely, and guess what, nvda still

works without any sound how about that?

 

How do you explain that one?

 

 

 

From: Gene

Sent: 05 September 2018 12:42

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error

noise

 

See a recent message I sent. If you just delete the file, there will be some

sort of problem when NVDA wants to play the file and it isn't there.

Renaming will cause the same problem because the actual file can't be found.

Either alter the file that is already there or put a different one in with

the same name.

 

Gene

----- Ortiginal Message -----

From: Chris via Groups.Io

Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 6:34 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error

noise

 

Or you could just delete or rename the error.wav file in your program

files\nvda\wave folder

I guess it depends how much messing around you want to do 😃

 

 

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io

Sent: 05 September 2018 11:59

To: nvda@groups.io

Subject: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error noise

 

 

The link below is a very much quietened error noise with soft start and

stop and a batch file to copy it into the right place on an installed copy

of nvda.

Its in a zip file.

Just download it and extract the two files to a place you want them to go.

Then when you get an update and the loud error comes back, run the batch

file and relax till the next update.

I've only automated what can be a bit of a faff about if you are trying to

do it in a hurry.

Make sure both files are in the same folder though. Also if you want you

can replace the error.wav with any wav file you like even silence, though

this is not actually recommended as the whole point of error noises is to

alert you of erm an error!

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/z2v3hhk6ifpdsv3/error-copy.zip?dl=1

 

 

Hope this helps with the hearing.

And now some gentle sounds of waves lapping against a shore.... no not

really!

 

 

 

 

bglists@...

Sent via blueyonder.

Please address personal E-mail to:-

briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'

in the display name field.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error noise

Gene
 

I didn't say it wouldn't work.  I don't remember what happened when NVDA wanted to play something.  I don't remember if I got a message about no file being found or what.  This was a number of years ago.  If this has changed in newer versions, that's fine.
 
Gene
----- Oroiginal Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 6:55 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error noise

Well that’s odd, no error.wav file, no problem here

In fact I removed the waves folder entirely, and guess what, nvda still works without any sound how about that?

 

How do you explain that one?

 

 

 

From: Gene
Sent: 05 September 2018 12:42
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error noise

 

See a recent message I sent.  If you just delete the file, there will be some sort of problem when NVDA wants to play the file and it isn't there.  Renaming will cause the same problem because the actual file can't be found.  Either alter the file that is already there or put a different one in with the same name.

 

Gene

----- Ortiginal Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 6:34 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error noise

 

Or you could just delete or rename the error.wav file in your program files\nvda\wave folder

I guess it depends how much messing around you want to do 😃

 

 

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: 05 September 2018 11:59
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error noise

 

 

The link below is a very much quietened error noise with soft start and

stop and a batch file  to copy it into the right place on an installed copy

of nvda.

Its in a zip file.

Just download it and extract the two files to a place you want them to go.

Then when you get an update and the loud error comes back, run the batch

file and relax till the next update.

I've only automated what can be a bit of a faff about if you are trying to

do it in a hurry.

Make sure both files are in the same folder though. Also if you want you

can replace the error.wav with any wav file you like even silence, though

this is not actually recommended as the whole point of error noises is to

alert you of erm an error!

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/z2v3hhk6ifpdsv3/error-copy.zip?dl=1

 

 

Hope this helps with the hearing.

And now some gentle sounds of waves lapping against a shore.... no not

really!

 

 

 

 

bglists@...

Sent via blueyonder.

Please address personal E-mail to:-

briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'

in the display name field.

 

 

 

 

 


Re: *Sending Again* Regarding Google Docs with NVDA

Dan Beaver
 

Hi Noah,


If you live in the U.S. then the school system is required to provide those docs in a form that is accessible to you.  I can't speak for outside the U.S. though. 


I have personally had problems using docs under Google Docs with NVDA so am skeptical about using them.  Others have had some success I believe but not sure how much.


I hope this helps.


Dan Beaver


On 9/5/2018 10:17 AM, Noah Carver via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi All,


Resending this because Thunderbird is being a bit odd. Wondering if anyone has any suggestions for using Google Docs with NVDA, as this is a requirement of my High School.


Noah







Re: Integrate NVDA into the Windows 7 setup?

Ervin, Glenn
 

You don’t need two hard drives for any of this.

If one has an install DVD, you first boot up to the talking WinPE, it will be just like booting into Windows 7 with speech coming up automatically.

But you aren’t in your own Windows, it is all in RAM.

Then you take out the WinPE disk and put in the install disk and find the setup file on the install disk on the install DVD.

The speech will be talking all the way through the installation, so you make all your choices.

This would work too if you copied all the files from the i386 folder from the install DVD onto the hard drive that you want to install to, and found the winnt.exe file in there.

This is for Windows XP of course, I don’t know about copying the files from a DVD onto the hard drive first with later versions of Windows.

But the main purpose of the talking WinPE is to not have to use a setup file or unattended install.

 

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 7:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Integrate NVDA into the Windows 7 setup?

 

But are you saying that you can do this using a Windows 7 PE environment?  If so, you appear to say that it is rather complicated and requires two hard drives.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Isaac

Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 6:57 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Integrate NVDA into the Windows 7 setup?

 

You can, you will need a 2nd hard drive though, and you will install the files to it, and then put it in the computer your going to use it in, then you will start the machine and it will go through all phases of setup until the oobe where you will need narrator.  There are a lot of differentials so if I know the situation and the type of machine I could probably help you.

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 6:30 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Integrate NVDA into the Windows 7 setup?

 

I saw a message saying you can install XP using a Windows 7 environment.  I thought you probably couldn't do so but it appears I was wrong. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 3:20 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Integrate NVDA into the Windows 7 setup?

 

Perhaps someone else who knows more technically will say whether you can install XP using a 32 bit Windows 7 environment.  I really doubt it but we'll see.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Ervin, Glenn

Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 3:09 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Integrate NVDA into the Windows 7 setup?

 

The one from Brian Smart has both the basic and the mega, the basic I believe is 32 bit.

If you download the one from the “files” page that I am unable to access from work, they have both 32 and 64 bit for 7 & 10.

Brian Smart’s version is running Eloquence, and the Files page runs eSpeak.

There are partitioning tools, password tools, and more.

The one from Brian Smart includes the mega and the basic and some installation software for the ISO images, maybe 3 or 4 GB there, and the Files page has all versions individually available, and probably a bit over a gig each.  Those are set up with executable installers.

I opened the .EXE archive and copied out the ISO image, because I burn them to USB and use a different tool for that.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 2:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Integrate NVDA into the Windows 7 setup?

 

I don't know anything about the tools.  But do you have to be running the environment to run the tools or can you run them on your machine without the environment running?  I have no idea what the tools are or if the person will find them of use, but the question was whether the environment can be used to install XP.  How long does it take to download the environment with a reasonable download speed and learn what is necessary to try running it?  I see no reason to believe this is a 32 bit environment since it is used to install 64 bit Windows 7. 

 

I have no objection to people learning about the tools.  If you explain something about them, some people may be interested and want to try them.  But I very much doubt the environment can be used as the person wishes.  I don't even think it will run at all.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Ervin, Glenn

Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 2:45 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Integrate NVDA into the Windows 7 setup?

 

Gene,

You have apparently never used WinPE.

It is not a waste of time to become familiar with WinPE.

That ISO comes with tools that can be used on XP, and heck, you can get on-line with it.

If it is on a USB drive, instead of a DVD, you can install programs to it.

So it almost a full version of Windows 7.

Glenn

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 2:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Integrate NVDA into the Windows 7 setup?

 

But the person is already using XP.  she wants to learn how to use the environment to install XP. 

 

People are free to waste time however they choose but this environment will not allow you to install Windows XP and it is probably a 64 bit environment.  Before downloading it and learning whatever you need to learn to even try to run it, such things should be considered to avoid a waste of time and effort.

 

Gene

----- Original message -----

From: Ervin, Glenn

Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 2:37 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Integrate NVDA into the Windows 7 setup?

 

It would not hurt to try, you would know immediately if it won’t work.

I wouldn’t get on-line with XP, but sometimes you need XP for other things, like Microsoft Mobility center, or whatever it was called in XP.

If you have a legacy device, like a Trekker on a PDA, you cannot reinstall the firmware in the Microsoft Mobility Center because it won’t let you.

And if someone is happy with XP and is not getting on-line, that is a valid reason for using it.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 2:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Integrate NVDA into the Windows 7 setup?

 

It won't work.  How can you install XP in a Win7 environment?  Windows XP is archaic.  You can do what you can do with it.  You will be able to do increasingly less over time.

 

And you would very likely have to run a Windows 7 32 bit environment because the machine being used is very likely a 32 bit machine. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Ervin, Glenn

Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 1:34 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Integrate NVDA into the Windows 7 setup?

 

I haven't tried the Windows 7 WinPE to install XP, but I'd give it a try.
The worse that could happen is that it will tell you that this installer does not support the operating system.
But I am guessing that it is backward compatible.
To use it, you burn the WinPE ISO to a DVD and boot up to it, and pull out the DVD and put in your Windows install DVD and run the setup.exe file on the install disk.
Glenn


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 12:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Integrate NVDA into the Windows 7 setup?

hi ervin.
does it support windows xp for me to learn installation of windows myself?

On 9/4/18, Ervin, Glenn <glenn.ervin@...> wrote:
> I would just use a talking WinPE.
> WinPE is Windows Pre-install Environment.
> That will give you a full talking installer using NVDA.
> Glenn
>
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Supanut
> Leepaisomboon
> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 9:52 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] Integrate NVDA into the Windows 7 setup?
>
> Hi all,
> Is it possible to integrate NVDA into the Windows 7 ISO using NTLite?
> If it is possible, is there any command line switches to make the
> install silent so that it can be installed automatically during the
> last phase of the Windows 7 setup?
>
>
>
>
>


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*Sending Again* Regarding Google Docs with NVDA

 

Hi All,


Resending this because Thunderbird is being a bit odd. Wondering if anyone has any suggestions for using Google Docs with NVDA, as this is a requirement of my High School.


Noah


Re: To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error noise

Chris
 

Actually I was only proving the point that the wave sounds are not necessary and nvda wont fall over without them , like some claim here

 

 

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Sent: 05 September 2018 14:10
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error noise

 

Well that is fine but its not ideal. It only has sounds to indicate certain

things, if you take them away then they are all gone!

Brian

 

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From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 12:55 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error

noise

 

 

Well that’s odd, no error.wav file, no problem here

In fact I removed the waves folder entirely, and guess what, nvda still

works without any sound how about that?

 

How do you explain that one?

 

 

 

From: Gene

Sent: 05 September 2018 12:42

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error

noise

 

See a recent message I sent. If you just delete the file, there will be some

sort of problem when NVDA wants to play the file and it isn't there.

Renaming will cause the same problem because the actual file can't be found.

Either alter the file that is already there or put a different one in with

the same name.

 

Gene

----- Ortiginal Message -----

From: Chris via Groups.Io

Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 6:34 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error

noise

 

Or you could just delete or rename the error.wav file in your program

files\nvda\wave folder

I guess it depends how much messing around you want to do 😃

 

 

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Sent: 05 September 2018 11:59

To: nvda@groups.io

Subject: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error noise

 

 

The link below is a very much quietened error noise with soft start and

stop and a batch file to copy it into the right place on an installed copy

of nvda.

Its in a zip file.

Just download it and extract the two files to a place you want them to go.

Then when you get an update and the loud error comes back, run the batch

file and relax till the next update.

I've only automated what can be a bit of a faff about if you are trying to

do it in a hurry.

Make sure both files are in the same folder though. Also if you want you

can replace the error.wav with any wav file you like even silence, though

this is not actually recommended as the whole point of error noises is to

alert you of erm an error!

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/z2v3hhk6ifpdsv3/error-copy.zip?dl=1

 

 

Hope this helps with the hearing.

And now some gentle sounds of waves lapping against a shore.... no not

really!

 

 

 

 

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Re: microsoft edge and the audio theme addon

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The audio theme add on does tend to have issues with adding time to things. I also see it has a lot of errors no matter what you are using it for. I'd really like to see the add on fixed a bit as I suspect these errors might in fact be slugging it, and on a browser which is also quite slow, it maybe pushes you over the top??

I'm assuming you mean the nvda add on here of course.
I do not have Edge but of course you can use this add on anywhere and one assumes only have it on under certain conditions via a profile.
I tend to only use it if I'm interested in a new page or application so I can understand the layout. After that I turn it off as all the tings plops and other noises does tend to make nvda sound like some tacky video game!
Brian

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To: "nvda groups" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 1:14 PM
Subject: [nvda] microsoft edge and the audio theme addon


Hello has anyone used Microsoft edge with the audio theme add on installed cause whenever I use Microsoft edge there is a lag or something in the browser whenever I am reading a web page or tab or shift tab sometimes it goes silent with all other browsers am not getting this so in order to get around this I have to go in to edge and unload then restart NVDA. It sure would be nice if there was a fix for this. I do like the audio theme add on it is nice to hear where things are on the screen when reading web pages. Has anyone looked in to this? Hope there will be an update out soon.
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Re: To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error noise

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The whole point of running snaps and haveing errors on is to debug thesnaps I see no point in running them otherwise.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error noise


Or you could just delete or rename the error.wav file in your program files\nvda\wave folder
I guess it depends how much messing around you want to do 😃


From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: 05 September 2018 11:59
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error noise


The link below is a very much quietened error noise with soft start and
stop and a batch file to copy it into the right place on an installed copy
of nvda.
Its in a zip file.
Just download it and extract the two files to a place you want them to go.
Then when you get an update and the loud error comes back, run the batch
file and relax till the next update.
I've only automated what can be a bit of a faff about if you are trying to
do it in a hurry.
Make sure both files are in the same folder though. Also if you want you
can replace the error.wav with any wav file you like even silence, though
this is not actually recommended as the whole point of error noises is to
alert you of erm an error!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/z2v3hhk6ifpdsv3/error-copy.zip?dl=1


Hope this helps with the hearing.
And now some gentle sounds of waves lapping against a shore.... no not
really!




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Re: To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error noise

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Well that is fine but its not ideal. It only has sounds to indicate certain things, if you take them away then they are all gone!
Brian

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From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error noise


Well that’s odd, no error.wav file, no problem here
In fact I removed the waves folder entirely, and guess what, nvda still works without any sound how about that?

How do you explain that one?



From: Gene
Sent: 05 September 2018 12:42
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error noise

See a recent message I sent. If you just delete the file, there will be some sort of problem when NVDA wants to play the file and it isn't there. Renaming will cause the same problem because the actual file can't be found. Either alter the file that is already there or put a different one in with the same name.

Gene
----- Ortiginal Message -----
From: Chris via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 6:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error noise

Or you could just delete or rename the error.wav file in your program files\nvda\wave folder
I guess it depends how much messing around you want to do 😃


From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: 05 September 2018 11:59
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] To all those who want to run snaps but hate the error noise


The link below is a very much quietened error noise with soft start and
stop and a batch file to copy it into the right place on an installed copy
of nvda.
Its in a zip file.
Just download it and extract the two files to a place you want them to go.
Then when you get an update and the loud error comes back, run the batch
file and relax till the next update.
I've only automated what can be a bit of a faff about if you are trying to
do it in a hurry.
Make sure both files are in the same folder though. Also if you want you
can replace the error.wav with any wav file you like even silence, though
this is not actually recommended as the whole point of error noises is to
alert you of erm an error!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/z2v3hhk6ifpdsv3/error-copy.zip?dl=1


Hope this helps with the hearing.
And now some gentle sounds of waves lapping against a shore.... no not
really!




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Re: VLC media player

Dejan Ristic
 

Hi to you,


What do you think about Gom player? It is NVDA-accessible.


Dejan


On 05/09/2018 00:57, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, everyone,

 

I just looked at the site for VLC media player but it doesn't show a version for windows 10. Is there something else I can use to watch this movie? I just had my sighted nephew go on the computer with team viewer and he said that the DVD is in a weird format. It's really too bad that I can't watch the movie now.

 

Rosemarie

 

 



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microsoft edge and the audio theme addon

Sue J. Ward
 

Hello has anyone used Microsoft edge with the audio theme add on installed cause whenever I use Microsoft edge there is a lag or something in the browser whenever I am reading a web page or tab or shift tab sometimes it goes silent with all other browsers am not getting this so in order to get around this I have to go in to edge and unload then restart NVDA. It sure would be nice if there was a fix for this. I do like the audio theme add on it is nice to hear where things are on the screen when reading web pages. Has anyone looked in to this? Hope there will be an update out soon.
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