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NVDA & IE11, figured it out

Larry Higgins
 

Hello again listers,


As so often happens, after asking, something happens that leads me right to the answer.


I  was just reading through the posts on the list earlier this morning, and found that someone was having trouble with there use of ZoomText (don't remember what the issue was), but they talked about switching between focus and browse mode, which for some unknown reason I assumed that brows was no longer being used by newer versions of screen readers. I looked up the key command for browse mode, and used it, and I was in business. Guess I'm in  no position to remind anybody about assuming <smile>?


I need to get to RTFMing real soon, as I am in the fourth day of a seven day trial period for Code Factory Eloquence, and need to give NVDA a bit of a work out, along with the synthesizer.


I find, at least for me, that NVDA is much more of a pleasant experience     with Eloquence, my long time preferred voice.


Thanks for all of your help, it is really very much appreciated.


Larry


Re: Contact

 

Ibrahim,

            Thanks very much for sharing the link.  As you suspected, a login is required to continue through to subsequent pages.  The first page is simply a series of radio buttons where you are asked what bank you have an account with and I can't see any more than that.

            Without knowing what the object that's misbehaving actually is, it's well-nigh impossible to make an educated guess as to what might work as far as interacting with it, at least for me anyway.
 
            I'm not great with object navigation, but the commands for same are in the Commands Quick Reference that you can bring up via the NVDA help menu.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: Contact

Ibrahim Ajayi
 

Hi Jonathan:
Thanks for your response. So, how do I turn off java script on the site.
Regards.
From Ibrahim.

On 8/6/18, Cohn, Jonathan <jcohn@air.org> wrote:
It sounds like the developer of your web page decided to create ther own
type of radio buttons but did not follow W3C ARIA techniques. Once you find
"Male" you could try routing the mouse to the word and clicking on it. There
is a chance however that this will not work either. And if the registration
page is so badly formed, that basic radio buttons do not work, there will
probably be accessibility issues on the rest of the site.

You could try turning off JAVASCRIPT on the browser and see if the site
progressively adjusts to this.


Jonathan

On 8/5/18, 4:50 PM, "nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of Ibrahim Ajayi"
<nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of kobisko@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi everyone:
I am having problems with filling out a form on a website. The
particular problem with the form is that I am asked to choose my
gender, and their is no combo box from which to make the selection,
and there is also no check box. Male female is listed, but the
selections cannot be made. I pressed the space bar on male, but it
wasn't selected. The form was not submitted.
Please has anyone ever had this problem at any time with any site? how
did you solve it. Or on the other hand, does anyone know of a fix to
the problem?
Hope to read a response or responses.
Very many thanks.
From Ibrahim.









Re: Disable desktop keys when laptop mode is enabled

Quentin Christensen
 

Just a small clarification, if you are using NVDA in laptop keyboard layout, then that has its own set of review cursor / object navigation keys which don't use the number pad.  Changing the desktop layout keystrokes won't have any impact on NVDA's functions while you are in laptop layout.  Note that if you do this, you want to leave the laptop layout keys for those functions, or as Gene notes, you will not be able to use those functions.

Regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 10:13 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
You can do that if you want to have problems using screen review or object navigation.  Even if you do this, does that mean the function keys are returned to their free state?  I don't know.  Maybe they just won't do anything. 
 
But before degrading NVDA when it may well not be necessary, what kind of laptop are you using?  Laptops that don't have home and end keys usually have some combination that will work as home and end.  I don't know what that combination is most likely to be, but it may be the fn key and this or that key used in combination.  Others will very likely have suggestions to try or may be able to check documentation. 
 
Also, are you completely sure there is no home and end key?  My laptop has small home and end keys that don't look anything like standard computer keys in a horizontal row of very small keys that are above the main keyboard.  Once, a computer user discussed this question on a list I'm on and, after considerable discussion, she found that the home and end keys were present in an interface more or less as I described.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2018 7:05 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable desktop keys when laptop mode is enabled

You can go to NVDA menu, Preferences, Input gestures and in the Text
review cathegory remove the entries regarding NumPad1 and NumPad7...

Regards,

Rui Fontes
N
Às 12:49 de 06/08/2018, Tage Johansson escreveu:
> Hi!
> I have a laptop with numpad but no extra home/end keys. Therefore, I'm
> using the home and end keys on the numpad. But NVDA takes ownership of
> my numpad, so I have no home and end keys. I tried to set the keyboard
> layout of NVDA to laptop, but NVDA has still ownership of my numpad.
> Any solutions?
> Tage
>





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Disable desktop keys when laptop mode is enabled

Gene
 

You can do that if you want to have problems using screen review or object navigation.  Even if you do this, does that mean the function keys are returned to their free state?  I don't know.  Maybe they just won't do anything. 
 
But before degrading NVDA when it may well not be necessary, what kind of laptop are you using?  Laptops that don't have home and end keys usually have some combination that will work as home and end.  I don't know what that combination is most likely to be, but it may be the fn key and this or that key used in combination.  Others will very likely have suggestions to try or may be able to check documentation. 
 
Also, are you completely sure there is no home and end key?  My laptop has small home and end keys that don't look anything like standard computer keys in a horizontal row of very small keys that are above the main keyboard.  Once, a computer user discussed this question on a list I'm on and, after considerable discussion, she found that the home and end keys were present in an interface more or less as I described.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2018 7:05 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable desktop keys when laptop mode is enabled

You can go to NVDA menu, Preferences, Input gestures and in the Text
review cathegory remove the entries regarding NumPad1 and NumPad7...

Regards,

Rui Fontes
N
Às 12:49 de 06/08/2018, Tage Johansson escreveu:
> Hi!
> I have a laptop with numpad but no extra home/end keys. Therefore, I'm
> using the home and end keys on the numpad. But NVDA takes ownership of
> my numpad, so I have no home and end keys. I tried to set the keyboard
> layout of NVDA to laptop, but NVDA has still ownership of my numpad.
> Any solutions?
> Tage
>



Re: Disable desktop keys when laptop mode is enabled

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Tage,

In NVDA's Input Gestures dialog, you can adjust keystrokes.

Press NVDA+n, then P for preferences, then N for Input Gestures.

In the "Object Navigation" and "Text Review" sections, you should find most of the keys you need.

Numpad7 (which is Home on a regular desktop keyboard) is used in:
"Move to top line in review"
"Move to previous line in review"
and
"Switch to next review mode"

Numpad1, which is End for me, is used in:
"Move to start of line in review",
"Move to previous character in review",
and
"Switch to previous review mode"

If you open the commands quick reference from the help menu- NVDA+n, then H then it's Q or the second item down, has all the keystrokes, so you can search for, for instance "numpad1" or "numpad7".

Regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 9:49 PM, Tage Johansson <frans.tage@...> wrote:
Hi!
I have a laptop with numpad but no extra home/end keys. Therefore, I'm using the home and end keys on the numpad. But NVDA takes ownership of my numpad, so I have no home and end keys. I tried to set the keyboard layout of NVDA to laptop, but NVDA has still ownership of my numpad.
Any solutions?
Tage




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Disable desktop keys when laptop mode is enabled

Rui Fontes
 

You can go to NVDA menu, Preferences, Input gestures and in the Text review cathegory remove the entries regarding NumPad1 and NumPad7...

Regards,

Rui Fontes
N
Às 12:49 de 06/08/2018, Tage Johansson escreveu:

Hi!
I have a laptop with numpad but no extra home/end keys. Therefore, I'm using the home and end keys on the numpad. But NVDA takes ownership of my numpad, so I have no home and end keys. I tried to set the keyboard layout of NVDA to laptop, but NVDA has still ownership of my numpad.
Any solutions?
Tage


Re: Contact

Jonathan COHN
 

It sounds like the developer of your web page decided to create ther own type of radio buttons but did not follow W3C ARIA techniques. Once you find "Male" you could try routing the mouse to the word and clicking on it. There is a chance however that this will not work either. And if the registration page is so badly formed, that basic radio buttons do not work, there will probably be accessibility issues on the rest of the site.

You could try turning off JAVASCRIPT on the browser and see if the site progressively adjusts to this.


Jonathan

On 8/5/18, 4:50 PM, "nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of Ibrahim Ajayi" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of kobisko@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi everyone:
I am having problems with filling out a form on a website. The
particular problem with the form is that I am asked to choose my
gender, and their is no combo box from which to make the selection,
and there is also no check box. Male female is listed, but the
selections cannot be made. I pressed the space bar on male, but it
wasn't selected. The form was not submitted.
Please has anyone ever had this problem at any time with any site? how
did you solve it. Or on the other hand, does anyone know of a fix to
the problem?
Hope to read a response or responses.
Very many thanks.
From Ibrahim.


Disable desktop keys when laptop mode is enabled

Tage Johansson
 

Hi!
I have a laptop with numpad but no extra home/end keys. Therefore, I'm using the home and end keys on the numpad. But NVDA takes ownership of my numpad, so I have no home and end keys. I tried to set the keyboard layout of NVDA to laptop, but NVDA has still ownership of my numpad.
Any solutions?
Tage


Re: Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

 

hi,
could you mention the shortcut key to answer a skype c

This message is transmitted on 100% recycled electrons.


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On 6 Aug 2018, at 16.02, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi,


RE: Recently added on accessibilitycentral.net

Recently added a tutorial (both written and audio) for Skype 8 desktop for Windows, using the NVDA screen reader.
A link to the page can be found below:

http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html


Regards,
Gene NZ



On 7/11/2018 11:19 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi,

RE: Recently added on accessibilitycentral.net

The following tutorials have been
added to the NVDA audio tutorials page:
How to completely uninstall NVDA from your computer
Addon troubleshooting

A link to the page can be found below:
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html

Regards,
Gene NZ


On 5/31/2018 9:27 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi,

RE: Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

I have added the following to all NVDA related pages - For a variety of NVDA related resources from around the world,
please visit the NVDA screen reader related resources page at the following link NVDA screen reader related resources

Regards,
Gene NZ


On 5/6/2018 12:43 PM, Adriani Botez wrote:

Dear Gene,

 

this is grat idea. It will be helpful for many people. Now I hope google translate will improve more in the near future.

 

 

Best

Adriani

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New Zealand
Gesendet: Samstag, 28. April 2018 07:56
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

 

Hi Adriani

 

I have just added a link to the google translate page for other languages on the main web page.

You can jump down by letter H to its heading then go down to the link then press the enter key where it will take you to another page.

 

For some reason i could not put in a plug in to do it and it wanted it on every page so have gone down this other route. There is a heading that says some thing like translate this website to another language and a link to the translate page. The default language is english and the website main page is already in the edit section to translate. it is then a matter of changing it to another language then having it translate to it. Just after the language combo box you want it to go to is where you can read it in another language. it also seems if you click on one of the links the next page is also translated but only on that page i have it pointing to off my website.

You will see what i mean when it is translated.

 

 

 

it may help? for people where english is not there first language like mine.

 

Not sure if the steps on what to do is enough or should i add a little more or hopefully it is clear enough on what to do.

 

Gene nz

 

 

 

On 4/13/2018 5:41 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:

Dear Gene,

 

thank you for your great job. This is very important for the whole community. I have forwarded your links to the german community and in the translations group.

 

I hope I will find some time during next week to provide you some suggestions.

 

I propose to split the related sources in “development sources” and “user specific sources”. In this way we could add links to github and bitbucket as well.

 

Best

Adriani

 

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New Zealand
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. April 2018 10:10
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

 

Hi Adriani

There is a under construction page that went up tonight for nvda screen reader related resources off the main website at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
When more resources get added there may be links off the nvda related web pages on my website that point to that page.

I have a rough idea of categories for the resources.
These can be changed  or added to.

Gene nz
 

On 3/25/2018 5:02 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi Adriani

 

Yep I am looking at doing a page for nvda screen reader related resources  which i will add it into which will be a separate web page. In that page I will break it down into say audio resources, video resources maybe nvda blogs? about using nvda? Not quite sure of other sections if i do and would be more a point to page but not jeffs one.

Even though he had a good site.

 

I am guessing we do  have links to other nvda resources like on you tube etc but not in the one place.

 

Gene nz

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 3/5/2018 9:22 PM, Adriani Botez wrote:

Gene,

 

thanks for including that. I wonder if Joseph’s new tutorials set “welcome to NVDA 2018” can be included as well?

 

Best

Adriani

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New Zealand
Gesendet: Montag, 5. März 2018 03:21
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

 

Hi Adriani

 

I was not sure if it worked on XP as when the directions went up i think at that time it had been tested on 7,8 and 10.

 

Would the directions from 10 also work on XP? to get into it as i used to do it the other way that was posted.

 

I have not any XP machines here now to test with.

 

The directions you gave are on the nvda audio tutorials page under trouble shooting.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 3/4/2018 11:45 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:

Hello,

 

we had this conversation some months ago, here is a gegistry file which activates your sound driver in safe mode. It has been tested with XP as well and it works perfectly. NVDA can be used in safe mode after activating this file:

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ebkqst6n393i6jk/Activate_Sound_in_Win10_Safe_Mode.zip?dl=1

 

 

Best

Adriani

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New Zealand
Gesendet: Samstag, 3. März 2018 19:47
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

 

Hi

 

the old way to get into safe mode in windows 10 can be found here at https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-boot-to-safe-mode-with-command-prompt-2624541

 

You will need a pair of eyes to do this plus you might not even have sound.

 

So am guessing you will need to burrow some eyes and give them directions to fix the problem.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 3/4/2018 2:58 AM, zahra wrote:

hi gene thanks so much for your great work of you and other members.
how can i access safe mode in windows xp with nvda?
does it have solution for users of xp?
thanks so much every one and God bless you all!
 
On 3/3/18, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
HI guys
 
Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net
 
RECENTLY UPDATED:
 
 
Added a link to all NVDA related pages for the new NVDA promotional video.
 
Added a link to the addons page for the NVDA Add-on developers guide which
has been updated for 2018.1
 
Added a review of the Samsung UA50MU6100SXNZ television to the podcasts and
product reviews page
http://accessibilitycentral.net/podcasts%20and%20product%20reviews.html
 
NEW:
 
Added a page called Skype Trusted Microsoft Store App (off the NVDA
tutorials for other programs page)
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html
as well as a page called Using Windows Media Player with NVDA.
 
Gene NZ
 
On 12/13/2017 12:59 PM, David Moore wrote:
Hi Gene NZ!
Thanks so much for what you do for us!
God bless!
David Moore
Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
10
 
From: Gene New Zealand<mailto:hurrikennyandopo@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 3:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net
 
 
Hi guys
 
Pages recently updated
Recently updated: Added links to NVDA Guides on all NVDA related pages
 
New: Added a tutorial How to access safe mode in Windows and exit it with
the NVDA screen reader by Hareth  and co to the NVDA audio tutorials page
under the troubleshooting section
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html Added a
tutorial (by Gene Asner) called Navigating ribbons in WordPad (to the NVDA
tutorials learning the basics page)
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20learning%20the%20basics.html
Added a tutorial called Using the Ribbon interface in Windows via the
keyboard (by Brian Vogel) to the NVDA tutorials for Windows 10 page.
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20windows%2010.html
 
Gene NZ
--
[Image                NVDA certified expert]
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material
at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New
Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA
screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert
exam.
 
 
 
--
[Image NVDA          certified expert]
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material
at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New
Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA
screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert
exam.
 
 
 

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

 

 





Re: Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

 



hi,
could you mention the shortcut key to answer a skype call on skype 8?
thank youThis message is transmitted on 100% recycled electrons.


Homepage; 

On 6 Aug 2018, at 16.02, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi,


RE: Recently added on accessibilitycentral.net

Recently added a tutorial (both written and audio) for Skype 8 desktop for Windows, using the NVDA screen reader.
A link to the page can be found below:

http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html


Regards,
Gene NZ



On 7/11/2018 11:19 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi,

RE: Recently added on accessibilitycentral.net

The following tutorials have been
added to the NVDA audio tutorials page:
How to completely uninstall NVDA from your computer
Addon troubleshooting

A link to the page can be found below:
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html

Regards,
Gene NZ


On 5/31/2018 9:27 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi,

RE: Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

I have added the following to all NVDA related pages - For a variety of NVDA related resources from around the world,
please visit the NVDA screen reader related resources page at the following link NVDA screen reader related resources

Regards,
Gene NZ


On 5/6/2018 12:43 PM, Adriani Botez wrote:

Dear Gene,

 

this is grat idea. It will be helpful for many people. Now I hope google translate will improve more in the near future.

 

 

Best

Adriani

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New Zealand
Gesendet: Samstag, 28. April 2018 07:56
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

 

Hi Adriani

 

I have just added a link to the google translate page for other languages on the main web page.

You can jump down by letter H to its heading then go down to the link then press the enter key where it will take you to another page.

 

For some reason i could not put in a plug in to do it and it wanted it on every page so have gone down this other route. There is a heading that says some thing like translate this website to another language and a link to the translate page. The default language is english and the website main page is already in the edit section to translate. it is then a matter of changing it to another language then having it translate to it. Just after the language combo box you want it to go to is where you can read it in another language. it also seems if you click on one of the links the next page is also translated but only on that page i have it pointing to off my website.

You will see what i mean when it is translated.

 

 

 

it may help? for people where english is not there first language like mine.

 

Not sure if the steps on what to do is enough or should i add a little more or hopefully it is clear enough on what to do.

 

Gene nz

 

 

 

On 4/13/2018 5:41 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:

Dear Gene,

 

thank you for your great job. This is very important for the whole community. I have forwarded your links to the german community and in the translations group.

 

I hope I will find some time during next week to provide you some suggestions.

 

I propose to split the related sources in “development sources” and “user specific sources”. In this way we could add links to github and bitbucket as well.

 

Best

Adriani

 

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New Zealand
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. April 2018 10:10
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

 

Hi Adriani

There is a under construction page that went up tonight for nvda screen reader related resources off the main website at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
When more resources get added there may be links off the nvda related web pages on my website that point to that page.

I have a rough idea of categories for the resources.
These can be changed  or added to.

Gene nz
 

On 3/25/2018 5:02 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi Adriani

 

Yep I am looking at doing a page for nvda screen reader related resources  which i will add it into which will be a separate web page. In that page I will break it down into say audio resources, video resources maybe nvda blogs? about using nvda? Not quite sure of other sections if i do and would be more a point to page but not jeffs one.

Even though he had a good site.

 

I am guessing we do  have links to other nvda resources like on you tube etc but not in the one place.

 

Gene nz

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 3/5/2018 9:22 PM, Adriani Botez wrote:

Gene,

 

thanks for including that. I wonder if Joseph’s new tutorials set “welcome to NVDA 2018” can be included as well?

 

Best

Adriani

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New Zealand
Gesendet: Montag, 5. März 2018 03:21
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

 

Hi Adriani

 

I was not sure if it worked on XP as when the directions went up i think at that time it had been tested on 7,8 and 10.

 

Would the directions from 10 also work on XP? to get into it as i used to do it the other way that was posted.

 

I have not any XP machines here now to test with.

 

The directions you gave are on the nvda audio tutorials page under trouble shooting.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 3/4/2018 11:45 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:

Hello,

 

we had this conversation some months ago, here is a gegistry file which activates your sound driver in safe mode. It has been tested with XP as well and it works perfectly. NVDA can be used in safe mode after activating this file:

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ebkqst6n393i6jk/Activate_Sound_in_Win10_Safe_Mode.zip?dl=1

 

 

Best

Adriani

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New Zealand
Gesendet: Samstag, 3. März 2018 19:47
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

 

Hi

 

the old way to get into safe mode in windows 10 can be found here at https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-boot-to-safe-mode-with-command-prompt-2624541

 

You will need a pair of eyes to do this plus you might not even have sound.

 

So am guessing you will need to burrow some eyes and give them directions to fix the problem.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 3/4/2018 2:58 AM, zahra wrote:

hi gene thanks so much for your great work of you and other members.
how can i access safe mode in windows xp with nvda?
does it have solution for users of xp?
thanks so much every one and God bless you all!
 
On 3/3/18, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
HI guys
 
Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net
 
RECENTLY UPDATED:
 
 
Added a link to all NVDA related pages for the new NVDA promotional video.
 
Added a link to the addons page for the NVDA Add-on developers guide which
has been updated for 2018.1
 
Added a review of the Samsung UA50MU6100SXNZ television to the podcasts and
product reviews page
http://accessibilitycentral.net/podcasts%20and%20product%20reviews.html
 
NEW:
 
Added a page called Skype Trusted Microsoft Store App (off the NVDA
tutorials for other programs page)
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html
as well as a page called Using Windows Media Player with NVDA.
 
Gene NZ
 
On 12/13/2017 12:59 PM, David Moore wrote:
Hi Gene NZ!
Thanks so much for what you do for us!
God bless!
David Moore
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10
 
From: Gene New Zealand<mailto:hurrikennyandopo@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 3:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net
 
 
Hi guys
 
Pages recently updated
Recently updated: Added links to NVDA Guides on all NVDA related pages
 
New: Added a tutorial How to access safe mode in Windows and exit it with
the NVDA screen reader by Hareth  and co to the NVDA audio tutorials page
under the troubleshooting section
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html Added a
tutorial (by Gene Asner) called Navigating ribbons in WordPad (to the NVDA
tutorials learning the basics page)
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20learning%20the%20basics.html
Added a tutorial called Using the Ribbon interface in Windows via the
keyboard (by Brian Vogel) to the NVDA tutorials for Windows 10 page.
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20windows%2010.html
 
Gene NZ
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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material
at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New
Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA
screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert
exam.
 
 
 
--
[Image NVDA          certified expert]
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material
at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New
Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA
screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert
exam.
 
 
 

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

 

 





Re: changing speech syn

Gene
 

Since so many people use enter on all buttons because they don't know and understand the concept of the default button, the coding of the dialog should be changed.  The change button should become the default button when you are on it so that those who use enter will have it work when they are on that button.  Many dialogs do this and who knows how many people are going to have such problems. 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2018 4:04 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] changing speech syn

I never hit enter on the change button, I'm sure I read this instruction
before somewhere. maybe in the ahem, manual?
 Brian

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From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2018 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] changing speech syn


> Great that is the answer.  you can not hit enter on the change but as you
> indicated use the spacebar to get the syn options to be changed. Thanks.
>
> On 8/5/2018 7:57 AM, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:
>> Try...
>>
>>  From the combo box, Tab once to change button and pressspacebar then
>> up/down to select synth and press enter
>>
>> *From: *Don H <mailto:lmddh50@...>
>> *Sent: *05 August 2018 13:44
>> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> *Subject: *[nvda] changing speech syn
>>
>> I thought this issue was only on a new install I did but it is also
>>
>> happening on my old install of the latest released version of NVDA on a
>>
>> up to date Win 10 system.
>>
>> I open the NVDA UI go to preferences, settings then speech. It shows
>>
>> the current selected speech syn but I can not move through the list of
>>
>> other speech syns that should be available. So I guess the question is
>>
>> how do you expand the list of available syns to make a selection?
>>
>> Without using the NVDA UI you can use the key combination NVDA key
>>
>> control s to open the speech options and a change can be easily made
>>
>> with all installed syns showing up.
>>
>>
>
>
>
>




Re: Add-on Updater: 18.08.5 as last stable version for now, few important announcements

Rui Fontes
 

Yes, if you correct all manifest.ini files in your machine, the addon updater will work without problems...

Rui Fontes


Às 10:47 de 06/08/2018, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io escreveu:

OK these add ons are present on the  installed copy of  beta 2 branch which fails when  add on updater is added to the list.
Application Dictionary; Status: enabled; Version: 1.2-dev; Author: Ricardo Leonarczyk <ricardo.leonarczyk95@gmail.com>
DECTalk Synthesizer; Status: enabled; Version: 1.2; Author: NVDA User
Announce Dropbox state and make preferences tabs accessible; Status: enabled; Version: 4.3; Author: Patrick ZAJDA <patrick@zajda.fr>, Filaos and other contributors
An extended appModule for Winamp music player; Status: enabled; Version: 1.1; Author: Hrvoje Katic <hrvojekatic@gmail.com>, NVDA-addon-team
this addon is to put text on  the clip bord and paste text from clip bord; Status: enabled; Author: Jennifer Wenson <jwens82@gmail.com
Focus Highlight; Status: enabled; Version: 5.2; Author: Takuya Nishimoto <nishimotz@gmail.com>
Golden Cursor; Status: enabled; Version: 3.1; Author: Salah Atair <atair1978@gmail.com>, Wafeeq Taher, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>, Abdel <abdelkrim.bensaid@gmail.com>
GoldWave; Status: enabled; Version: 18.07; Author: Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>, David Parduhn <xkill85@gmx.net>, Mesar Hameed <mhameed@src.gnome.org>
mp3DirectCut; Status: enabled; Version: 4.1; Author: Abdel, Rèmy Ruiz, Abdellah Zineddine, Jean-François Colas
Open Link With; Status: enabled; Version: 1.0; Author: Ibrahim Hamadeh <ibra.hamadeh@hotmail.com>, Belala Toufik<belaalatoufik@gmail.com>
Svox pico synthesizer; Status: enabled; Version: 1.0; Author: Aleksey Sadovoy <lex@progger.ru> and Michael Curran <mick@kulgan.net>
Remote Support; Status: disabled; Version: 2.1; Author: Tyler Spivey <tspivey@pcdesk.net>, Christopher Toth <q@q-continuum.net>
Resource Monitor; Status: enabled; Version: 18.07; Author: Alex Hall <mehgcap@gmail.com>, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>, beqa gozalishvili <beqaprogger@gmail.com>, Tuukka Ojala <tuukka.ojala@gmail.com> and other NVDA contributors
SpeechPlayer in Espeak; Status: enabled; Version: 0.4.1; Author: NV Access Limitied <admin@nvaccess.org>
I suspect at leas three of these are old. Can i manually update the manifest fiiles in the folder?
Brian
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To: "'NVDA screen reader development'" <nvda-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2018 5:38 PM
Subject: [nvda] Add-on Updater: 18.08.5 as last stable version for now, few important announcements

Hi all,



First, thank you all for your valuable feedback regarding Add-on Updater. At
the moment I'm making changes to the corresponding pull request (NVDA issue
3208) based on your feedback and the add-on code.



Also, version 18.08.5 will hit the air in about half an hour from now. This
one fixes a bug where Add-on Updater settings panel didn't show up properly
if there are add-ons with badly formatted manifest data. I also took this
time to exclude Nuance Vocalizer family of add-ons from participating in
add-on update checks.



Few more important announcements:



* Removing "stable" tag: I'm removing stable tag from this add-on once
18.08.5 is released. This is to follow precedence set by Screen Curtain
where proof of concept/prototype add-ons will remain under development.
* Compatibility with really old add-ons: prior to widespread use of
Add-on Template, add-on authors would package add-ons by hand. This means
add-on manifest data would be formatted in such a way that caused Python to
treat them as things other than text. Although Add-on Updater will notice
these and take appropriate action, compatibility with these old add-ons is
not guaranteed. The solution is for add-on authors to put quotes around
manifest data, specifically for summary and description fields. I'll edit
relevant sections in NVDA's developer guide to reflect this discovery.
* Feedback channel: in addition to emails and social media replies
(Twitter and what not), the best place to send feedback regarding add-on
update feature is GitHub via https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/3208.



Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph





Re: Add-on Updater: 18.08.5 as last stable version for now, few important announcements

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

OK these add ons are present on the installed copy of beta 2 branch which fails when add on updater is added to the list.
Application Dictionary; Status: enabled; Version: 1.2-dev; Author: Ricardo Leonarczyk <ricardo.leonarczyk95@gmail.com>
DECTalk Synthesizer; Status: enabled; Version: 1.2; Author: NVDA User
Announce Dropbox state and make preferences tabs accessible; Status: enabled; Version: 4.3; Author: Patrick ZAJDA <patrick@zajda.fr>, Filaos and other contributors
An extended appModule for Winamp music player; Status: enabled; Version: 1.1; Author: Hrvoje Katic <hrvojekatic@gmail.com>, NVDA-addon-team
this addon is to put text on the clip bord and paste text from clip bord; Status: enabled; Author: Jennifer Wenson <jwens82@gmail.com
Focus Highlight; Status: enabled; Version: 5.2; Author: Takuya Nishimoto <nishimotz@gmail.com>
Golden Cursor; Status: enabled; Version: 3.1; Author: Salah Atair <atair1978@gmail.com>, Wafeeq Taher, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>, Abdel <abdelkrim.bensaid@gmail.com>
GoldWave; Status: enabled; Version: 18.07; Author: Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>, David Parduhn <xkill85@gmx.net>, Mesar Hameed <mhameed@src.gnome.org>
mp3DirectCut; Status: enabled; Version: 4.1; Author: Abdel, Rèmy Ruiz, Abdellah Zineddine, Jean-François Colas
Open Link With; Status: enabled; Version: 1.0; Author: Ibrahim Hamadeh <ibra.hamadeh@hotmail.com>, Belala Toufik<belaalatoufik@gmail.com>
Svox pico synthesizer; Status: enabled; Version: 1.0; Author: Aleksey Sadovoy <lex@progger.ru> and Michael Curran <mick@kulgan.net>
Remote Support; Status: disabled; Version: 2.1; Author: Tyler Spivey <tspivey@pcdesk.net>, Christopher Toth <q@q-continuum.net>
Resource Monitor; Status: enabled; Version: 18.07; Author: Alex Hall <mehgcap@gmail.com>, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>, beqa gozalishvili <beqaprogger@gmail.com>, Tuukka Ojala <tuukka.ojala@gmail.com> and other NVDA contributors
SpeechPlayer in Espeak; Status: enabled; Version: 0.4.1; Author: NV Access Limitied <admin@nvaccess.org>

I suspect at leas three of these are old. Can i manually update the manifest fiiles in the folder?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: "'NVDA screen reader development'" <nvda-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2018 5:38 PM
Subject: [nvda] Add-on Updater: 18.08.5 as last stable version for now, few important announcements


Hi all,



First, thank you all for your valuable feedback regarding Add-on Updater. At
the moment I'm making changes to the corresponding pull request (NVDA issue
3208) based on your feedback and the add-on code.



Also, version 18.08.5 will hit the air in about half an hour from now. This
one fixes a bug where Add-on Updater settings panel didn't show up properly
if there are add-ons with badly formatted manifest data. I also took this
time to exclude Nuance Vocalizer family of add-ons from participating in
add-on update checks.



Few more important announcements:



* Removing "stable" tag: I'm removing stable tag from this add-on once
18.08.5 is released. This is to follow precedence set by Screen Curtain
where proof of concept/prototype add-ons will remain under development.
* Compatibility with really old add-ons: prior to widespread use of
Add-on Template, add-on authors would package add-ons by hand. This means
add-on manifest data would be formatted in such a way that caused Python to
treat them as things other than text. Although Add-on Updater will notice
these and take appropriate action, compatibility with these old add-ons is
not guaranteed. The solution is for add-on authors to put quotes around
manifest data, specifically for summary and description fields. I'll edit
relevant sections in NVDA's developer guide to reflect this discovery.
* Feedback channel: in addition to emails and social media replies
(Twitter and what not), the best place to send feedback regarding add-on
update feature is GitHub via https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/3208.



Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph




Re: [win10+Insiders] FW: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

Steve Nutt
 

Hi Joseph,

 

This does indeed work for Narrator.  Thanks for it.

 

I’m not worried though, as JAWS works as well as it ever did with settings, but I just thought I’d report it.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: 04 August 2018 03:10
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: FW: [win10+Insiders] FW: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi Steve,

Update: an internal bug has been filed and a Microsoft developer team is looking into it. Note that the below workaround does not apply to NVDA.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: Insiders@win10.groups.io <Insiders@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shou-Ching Schilling via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, August 3, 2018 7:05 PM
To: Insiders@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10+Insiders] FW: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Update: I filed an internal bug report on this issue last night; my team is looking into it. In the meantime, if you run into this problem in the Settings app while using Narrator and regular Windows keyboard commands (Tab, down arrow etc.), you can try these steps: 

Turn on Scan mode (Caps + Space), press down arrow a few times, then turn Scan mode back off (Caps + Space).  Narrator should now read when tabbing around or pressing arrow keys in the Settings app again.
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Re: Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

Steve Nutt
 

So you didn't read the message then. I said I had completely uninstalled and reinstalled and gone through all the steps you outline in my message below.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io
Sent: 03 August 2018 21:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

well just a thought, I didn't think it would work did you try it? or
are you just saying it won't work without trying?

On 03/08/2018 09:23, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi Kevin,

Why would that have an affect? It's not an NVDA setting that's throwing it, I have completely uninstalled, removed that folder and reinstalled with the same effect.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin
Cussick via Groups.Io
Sent: 02 August 2018 22:43
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible
with NVDA

Hi Steve, have you tried deleting the nvda directory under %appdata% I
doubt it will work, but worth a try you will need to do this with
another screen reader running. I am sure you know this let us know if
it works.

On 02/08/2018 17:19, Steve Nutt wrote:
Chris, you still don’t win the price.

Updated to 2018.2.1 and still no settings.

All the best


Steve

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Chris
via Groups.Io
*Sent:* 02 August 2018 15:17
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible
with NVDA

Why not use the latest version of nvda first, see if that works out for you?

*From: *Steve Nutt <mailto:steve@comproom.co.uk>
*Sent: *02 August 2018 14:10
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible
with NVDA

Hi Joseph,

I have 2018.1.1 and no amount of opening or closing settings fixes it.

All the best

Steve

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
*Joseph Lee
*Sent:* 30 July 2018 15:11
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible
with NVDA

Hi,

Which version of NVDA do you have, and does reopening Settings app
fix the problem?

Cheers,

Joseph

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Steve
Nutt
*Sent:* Monday, July 30, 2018 1:56 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible
with NVDA

Hi,

Using Windows 10 V1803, I notice that when you tab round in settings
now, none of the lists or tabs are voiced by NVDA at all. I do have
App Essentials installed.

Any thoughts? They are still voiced by JAWS.

Thanks.

All the best


Steve

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Re: Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

Steve Nutt
 

Just to be clear, the problem is not with opening the settings app, the problem is that the list of options is not read when you tab out of the search box.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: 03 August 2018 19:52
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Just wanted to say that I’m running the latest Insider build and no problems here with opening the settings app.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
Sent: Friday, August 3, 2018 11:58:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi all,

A Microsoft staff was able to reproduce this on Redstone 5, although this isn’t consistent, according to this person. I’ll post an update once we know more.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Friday, August 3, 2018 7:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

HiDavid,

 

I don’t want to reset or roll back or anything like that, because it is working with JAWS so I can live with it.

 

It does illustrate however, that weird things seem to be happening on some machines with UIA.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 03 August 2018 14:55
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

This is a strange situation. I have  no problems here with Settings with  NVDA, Narrator, and Jaws2018.

I am using 64 bit Windows 10 18.03

Latest stable version of NVDA and Narrator. I updated Win 10 App Essentials today.

There therefore appears to be something on Steve’s machine and others which is triggering this problem.

I have  sympathy as there are  other aspects of my Win 10 setup which do not work as they should. I cannot for example ever get goldwqave to load properly.

 

David Griffith

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: Steve Nutt
Sent: 03 August 2018 14:29
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi Jim,

 

Are you on Windows 10 Version 1803?

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Gamages via Groups.Io

Sent: 03 August 2018 12:50

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hello Steve and all,

 

Sorry, my mistake, it lands me in a search box so of course it doesn't speak at that point, pressing tab takes me to the menus etc, it even works with NVDA, stranger and stranger.

 

 

 

 

Best Regards, Jim.

-----Original Message-----

From: Steve Nutt

Sent: Friday, August 03, 2018 9:25 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Even more confusing.  JAWS works fine for me, I'm on JAWS 2018.

 

What version of JAWS are you on?  If 2018, you should update to the July build, then I suspect it will work.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

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Sent: 03 August 2018 08:00

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Just to add to this, Jaws doesn't work for me either, NVDA says blank, Jaws says nothing at all.

 

 

 

Best Regards, Jim.

-----Original Message-----

From: Brice Mijares

Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2018 5:17 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with

NVDA

 

Are these settings opened by hitting windows key I? if so, I'm having no

issues.

 

On 8/2/2018 9:03 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:

> Hi,

> It is still broken with all add-ons disabled.

> Update though, it is broken in Narrator as well.  Glad I have JAWS for

> this one.

> All th best

> Steve

> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *abdul

> muhamin

> *Sent:* 01 August 2018 08:45

> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io

> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible

> with NVDA

> Hi all. I’ve noticed the same problem yesterday, sometimes. The

> settings

> app is not readable by NVDA. However, you can restart this app 2 or

> more

> times to make it readable. I don’t know, whether this is the problem

> with the last security updates of win10. or something is wrong with

> some

> addons, I doesn’t tri with addons disable

> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for

> Windows 10

> *From: *Chris via Groups.Io

> <mailto:chrismedley@...>

> *Sent: *Monday, July 30, 2018 7:18 PM

> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> *Subject: *Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible

> with NVDA

> First things first, try a restart of windows

> If that don’t work , restart nvda with addons disabled

> See how that goes

> *From: *Steve Nutt <mailto:steve@...>

> *Sent: *30 July 2018 09:55

> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> *Subject: *[nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with

> NVDA

> Hi,

> Using Windows 10 V1803, I notice that when you tab round in settings

> now, none of the lists or tabs are voiced by NVDA at all.  I do have

> App

> Essentials installed.

> Any thoughts?  They are still voiced by JAWS.

> Thanks.

> All the best

> Steve

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Re: Can NVDA be used with IE11?

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I think the registration tool is run when you install nvda on the latest version looking at the log file. However if its run portably maybe not. so do check out the tool for re registering. Many screenreaders seem to do this nowadays due to the inept design of uninstaller packages not putting things back as they found them.
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From: "Gene New Zealand" <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2018 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Can NVDA be used with IE11?


Hi


yes NVDA can be used with internet explorer along with mozilla fire fox
and google chrome and microsoft edge and a few others.


How are you trying to drive nvda on the web page?


there are 2 modes in the browser you use one is browse mode where you
can use single letter navigation keys such as H for headings, L for
lists and so on.


The other mode is focus mode this is where you can type into a editable
box like when you enter a email address or password etc in the browser.


Depending if you have sounds enabled you will hear 2 sounds if it is
like a letter typed it is in a edit area or if you hear the other sound
a like pong sound you are in browse mode.


If you want to hear what mode you are in use the ctrl key + nvda key +
the letter B and when the dialogue box comes up tab down until you hear
nvda say and uncheck that box called Audio indication of focus and
browse modes with the space bar.


Make sure then you save your settings with ctrl key +nvda key + the letter C


Are you hearing any thing when you tab on the page? if you are it may
just be the mode but if you hear pane or unknown you might have to run a
tool to fix it but this is only if it is in all browsers.


Gene nz



On 8/6/2018 8:22 AM, Larry Higgins wrote:
A first time hello to all on the list.

This is my very first post here, so hate to ask what almost has to be
a stupid question at the outset, but here goes.

It has been my experience that NVDA will not read anything from a page
with IE11 other than links via the tab key, but will not read text
from a page via the arrow keys at all. Is this just me, Or is NVDA and
IE simply incompatible? If they are indeed compatible, could someone
please give me some necessary pointers toward using IE with NVDA?

Any help would be very much appreciated,

Larry





Re: Can NVDA be used with IE11?

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It works fine here the last time I tried.
Can you tell us whether any other browser works for you, or is it just ie 11?
I am assuming you are not in focus mode but in browse mode.
By which I mean if you are in an auto focus mode situation say in an editable text area, and its not switching back when you come out, you might try forcing it.

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From: "Larry Higgins" <larry.b.higgins@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2018 9:22 PM
Subject: [nvda] Can NVDA be used with IE11?


A first time hello to all on the list.

This is my very first post here, so hate to ask what almost has to be a stupid question at the outset, but here goes.

It has been my experience that NVDA will not read anything from a page with IE11 other than links via the tab key, but will not read text from a page via the arrow keys at all. Is this just me, Or is NVDA and IE simply incompatible? If they are indeed compatible, could someone please give me some necessary pointers toward using IE with NVDA?

Any help would be very much appreciated,

Larry


Re: FW: [Nvda-devel] FW: [nvda] New speech framework in NVDA

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I don't think its with fast speech its with the start of speech after some seconds of silence. I do not have a laptop here, but relate seem to be the main offender. it seems to take time to open a sound channel, whereas there is no delay in windows 7.
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From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2018 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: FW: [Nvda-devel] FW: [nvda] New speech framework in NVDA


On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 04:18 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:


We were promised that any driver certified by Microsoft would be checked,
this clearly is not happening.
Testing, any testing, is finite. It is possible for things to slip by, and if the issue is as described, and occurring only when speech rate is really fast, that may have escaped the range of rate tested.

Checked is not the same as exhaustively tested each and every time. If it were, software updates could never happen, as you cannot and do not regression test every last line of code in a hugely complex system.

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