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Braille UNICODE characters and voice reading.

Jonathan COHN
 

Hello,

 

If a web site or word document is using the UNICODE characters for Braille, How does NVDA treat these, does reverse translation occur and then have the equivalent words spoken, are they represented on the braille display but not on the speech output?

 

 

 

Thanks,

 

Jonathan

 


Re: how to filter brailleoutput

Jonathan COHN
 

Well, could you create your own Louis translation table? I guess that is a bit of overkill.



On 8/3/18, 12:02 PM, "nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of Brian Tew via Groups.Io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of briantew1951=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Is there any way to make the rules in speech dictionary apply to braille output?
We braille users need filters much more than audio users.


Re: Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

Mary Otten
 

Hi Steve, I have no idea why this should be so, but on this machine, 64-bit home version 1803, the Settings app is working great. I don’t have to wait. As soon as I hit windows I, everything works and speaks as it should.
Mary

On Aug 3, 2018, at 7:45 AM, Steve Nutt <steve@comproom.co.uk> wrote:

Hi Jim,

Well the previous version didn't work for me either, so something strange is going on.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Gamages via Groups.Io
Sent: 03 August 2018 14:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

HelloSteve,

Yes, I am on the latest Windows version, however, I just checked and I am using the version of NVDA previous to the latest, I will update at some point, but everything I want is working at the moment, so I will wait a bit.



Best Regards, Jim.
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Nutt
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2018 2:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

Hi Jim,

Are you on Windows 10 Version 1803?

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Gamages via Groups.Io
Sent: 03 August 2018 12:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

Hello Steve and all,

Sorry, my mistake, it lands me in a search box so of course it doesn't speak at that point, pressing tab takes me to the menus etc, it even works with NVDA, stranger and stranger.




Best Regards, Jim.
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Nutt
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2018 9:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

Even more confusing. JAWS works fine for me, I'm on JAWS 2018.

What version of JAWS are you on? If 2018, you should update to the July build, then I suspect it will work.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Gamages via Groups.Io
Sent: 03 August 2018 08:00
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

Just to add to this, Jaws doesn't work for me either, NVDA says blank, Jaws says nothing at all.



Best Regards, Jim.
-----Original Message-----
From: Brice Mijares
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2018 5:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with
NVDA

Are these settings opened by hitting windows key I? if so, I'm having no
issues.

On 8/2/2018 9:03 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi,

It is still broken with all add-ons disabled.

Update though, it is broken in Narrator as well. Glad I have JAWS for
this one.

All th best


Steve

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *abdul
muhamin
*Sent:* 01 August 2018 08:45
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible
with NVDA

Hi all. I’ve noticed the same problem yesterday, sometimes. The
settings
app is not readable by NVDA. However, you can restart this app 2 or
more
times to make it readable. I don’t know, whether this is the problem
with the last security updates of win10. or something is wrong with
some
addons, I doesn’t tri with addons disable

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Chris via Groups.Io
<mailto:chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
*Sent: *Monday, July 30, 2018 7:18 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible
with NVDA

First things first, try a restart of windows

If that don’t work , restart nvda with addons disabled

See how that goes

*From: *Steve Nutt <mailto:steve@comproom.co.uk>
*Sent: *30 July 2018 09:55
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *[nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with
NVDA

Hi,

Using Windows 10 V1803, I notice that when you tab round in settings
now, none of the lists or tabs are voiced by NVDA at all. I do have
App
Essentials installed.

Any thoughts? They are still voiced by JAWS.

Thanks.

All the best


Steve

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how to filter brailleoutput

Brian Tew
 

Is there any way to make the rules in speech dictionary apply to braille output?
We braille users need filters much more than audio users.


Re: Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi all,

A Microsoft staff was able to reproduce this on Redstone 5, although this isn’t consistent, according to this person. I’ll post an update once we know more.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Friday, August 3, 2018 7:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

HiDavid,

 

I don’t want to reset or roll back or anything like that, because it is working with JAWS so I can live with it.

 

It does illustrate however, that weird things seem to be happening on some machines with UIA.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 03 August 2018 14:55
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

This is a strange situation. I have  no problems here with Settings with  NVDA, Narrator, and Jaws2018.

I am using 64 bit Windows 10 18.03

Latest stable version of NVDA and Narrator. I updated Win 10 App Essentials today.

There therefore appears to be something on Steve’s machine and others which is triggering this problem.

I have  sympathy as there are  other aspects of my Win 10 setup which do not work as they should. I cannot for example ever get goldwqave to load properly.

 

David Griffith

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: Steve Nutt
Sent: 03 August 2018 14:29
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi Jim,

 

Are you on Windows 10 Version 1803?

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Gamages via Groups.Io

Sent: 03 August 2018 12:50

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hello Steve and all,

 

Sorry, my mistake, it lands me in a search box so of course it doesn't speak at that point, pressing tab takes me to the menus etc, it even works with NVDA, stranger and stranger.

 

 

 

 

Best Regards, Jim.

-----Original Message-----

From: Steve Nutt

Sent: Friday, August 03, 2018 9:25 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Even more confusing.  JAWS works fine for me, I'm on JAWS 2018.

 

What version of JAWS are you on?  If 2018, you should update to the July build, then I suspect it will work.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Gamages via Groups.Io

Sent: 03 August 2018 08:00

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Just to add to this, Jaws doesn't work for me either, NVDA says blank, Jaws says nothing at all.

 

 

 

Best Regards, Jim.

-----Original Message-----

From: Brice Mijares

Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2018 5:17 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with

NVDA

 

Are these settings opened by hitting windows key I? if so, I'm having no

issues.

 

On 8/2/2018 9:03 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:

> Hi,

> It is still broken with all add-ons disabled.

> Update though, it is broken in Narrator as well.  Glad I have JAWS for

> this one.

> All th best

> Steve

> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *abdul

> muhamin

> *Sent:* 01 August 2018 08:45

> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io

> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible

> with NVDA

> Hi all. I’ve noticed the same problem yesterday, sometimes. The

> settings

> app is not readable by NVDA. However, you can restart this app 2 or

> more

> times to make it readable. I don’t know, whether this is the problem

> with the last security updates of win10. or something is wrong with

> some

> addons, I doesn’t tri with addons disable

> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for

> Windows 10

> *From: *Chris via Groups.Io

> <mailto:chrismedley@...>

> *Sent: *Monday, July 30, 2018 7:18 PM

> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> *Subject: *Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible

> with NVDA

> First things first, try a restart of windows

> If that don’t work , restart nvda with addons disabled

> See how that goes

> *From: *Steve Nutt <mailto:steve@...>

> *Sent: *30 July 2018 09:55

> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> *Subject: *[nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with

> NVDA

> Hi,

> Using Windows 10 V1803, I notice that when you tab round in settings

> now, none of the lists or tabs are voiced by NVDA at all.  I do have

> App

> Essentials installed.

> Any thoughts?  They are still voiced by JAWS.

> Thanks.

> All the best

> Steve

> --

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> 77 Exeter Close

> Stevenage

> Hertfordshire

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Offline due to computer failure

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I do not know if its the hot weather here, or what but my main pc has
stopped booting, so depending on what a sighted person can deduce, I might
be out of circulation for a short or longer time. Obviously, since it has
an ssd and if that has gone, although I have backups, the configuration of
lots of software is a major task to undertake.
If in the end it is decided to reformat I cannot use the backups either so
that is going to take even longer to rebuild the files.

Basically, this morning I was told an update to an add on was available and I allowed it to proceed, but when the nvda rebooted the computer totally locked up.
On starting with the button, it continuously prompts for boot media, but does not provide a way to enter it. On chatting to the firm that built it they suggest the bios might be corrupt and I should keep hitting delete and then set the proper option. which really is not an option without sighted help.
If this is what it is, it could be the battery, I suppose or it might be corrupt windows, I have a rescue disc and backups from Sunday last, but if its a total mess than I have a major job of rebuilding a very complex lot of software. I'll see you all in the spring!


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Re: dot mini low cost braille display and NVDA

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Yes I'm no reader of Braille but it is very strange, kind of like a wobbly worm.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Nutt
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2018 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] dot mini low cost braille display and NVDA

Well the Dot Watch is pretty awful, so I won’t worry about that display.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: 02 August 2018 18:44
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] dot mini low cost braille display and NVDA

 

Hi,

When the dot mini is released, will it also work with NVDA? The dot mini is being developed by the same people who make the dot watch with its 4-cell braille display, but the dot mini will have a 16-cell display.

 

https://dotincorp.com/product/dot-mini/

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: dot mini low cost braille display and NVDA

erik burggraaf <erik@...>
 

Where did you come up with that number?  I'm not sayin you're wrong, but I haven't been able to get any info and I work in an AT shop with direct access to the company.  It's too early for our market.

Best,

Erik

On August 3, 2018 11:00:50 AM "Josh Kennedy" <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:

the dot mini will cost $490 


Re: dot mini low cost braille display and NVDA

Antony Stone
 

It is not yet released and there is no pricing information on the developers'
website.


Antony.

On Friday 03 August 2018 at 16:12:47, Gary Greico wrote:

Do you know how much the dot mini cost?

On 02-Aug-18 1:44 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
Hi,

When the dot mini is released, will it also work with NVDA? The dot
mini is being developed by the same people who make the dot watch with
its 4-cell braille display, but the dot mini will have a 16-cell display.

https://dotincorp.com/product/dot-mini/
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Re: Add-on Updater 18.08.1 R2: critical bug with add-onstartup fixed

Lenron
 

This is really a great add on.

On 7/31/18, David Moore <jesusloves1966@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes,
I just downloaded the updated version, and it works great!
David Moore


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Gene New Zealand
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 1:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater 18.08.1 R2: critical bug with
add-onstartup fixed

Hi

Just went into the updater add on and it shows the new version of it and
also i noticed in the focus high lighter  add on it showed a later version
of that add on now so both were updated.  Windows 10 1803 and nvda 2018.2.1

Gene nz
On 7/31/2018 5:13 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi all,

Here we go – Add-on Updater 18.08.1 R2 is now available. Although it is
still called 18.08.1, it is really the second revision, as it contains a fix
for a critical bug where add-on didn’t even start. Because of this, you must
download this one manually:
https://addons.nvda-project.org/files/get.php?file=nvda3208

For those who have 18.08 (not 18.08.1), the new version is now ready to meet
you.
Cheers,
Joseph






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Re: dot mini low cost braille display and NVDA

Josh Kennedy
 

the dot mini will cost $490 


Re: Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

Steve Nutt
 

HiDavid,

 

I don’t want to reset or roll back or anything like that, because it is working with JAWS so I can live with it.

 

It does illustrate however, that weird things seem to be happening on some machines with UIA.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 03 August 2018 14:55
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

This is a strange situation. I have  no problems here with Settings with  NVDA, Narrator, and Jaws2018.

I am using 64 bit Windows 10 18.03

Latest stable version of NVDA and Narrator. I updated Win 10 App Essentials today.

There therefore appears to be something on Steve’s machine and others which is triggering this problem.

I have  sympathy as there are  other aspects of my Win 10 setup which do not work as they should. I cannot for example ever get goldwqave to load properly.

 

David Griffith

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: Steve Nutt
Sent: 03 August 2018 14:29
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi Jim,

 

Are you on Windows 10 Version 1803?

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Gamages via Groups.Io

Sent: 03 August 2018 12:50

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hello Steve and all,

 

Sorry, my mistake, it lands me in a search box so of course it doesn't speak at that point, pressing tab takes me to the menus etc, it even works with NVDA, stranger and stranger.

 

 

 

 

Best Regards, Jim.

-----Original Message-----

From: Steve Nutt

Sent: Friday, August 03, 2018 9:25 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Even more confusing.  JAWS works fine for me, I'm on JAWS 2018.

 

What version of JAWS are you on?  If 2018, you should update to the July build, then I suspect it will work.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Gamages via Groups.Io

Sent: 03 August 2018 08:00

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Just to add to this, Jaws doesn't work for me either, NVDA says blank, Jaws says nothing at all.

 

 

 

Best Regards, Jim.

-----Original Message-----

From: Brice Mijares

Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2018 5:17 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with

NVDA

 

Are these settings opened by hitting windows key I? if so, I'm having no

issues.

 

On 8/2/2018 9:03 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:

> Hi,

> It is still broken with all add-ons disabled.

> Update though, it is broken in Narrator as well.  Glad I have JAWS for

> this one.

> All th best

> Steve

> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *abdul

> muhamin

> *Sent:* 01 August 2018 08:45

> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io

> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible

> with NVDA

> Hi all. I’ve noticed the same problem yesterday, sometimes. The

> settings

> app is not readable by NVDA. However, you can restart this app 2 or

> more

> times to make it readable. I don’t know, whether this is the problem

> with the last security updates of win10. or something is wrong with

> some

> addons, I doesn’t tri with addons disable

> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for

> Windows 10

> *From: *Chris via Groups.Io

> <mailto:chrismedley@...>

> *Sent: *Monday, July 30, 2018 7:18 PM

> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> *Subject: *Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible

> with NVDA

> First things first, try a restart of windows

> If that don’t work , restart nvda with addons disabled

> See how that goes

> *From: *Steve Nutt <mailto:steve@...>

> *Sent: *30 July 2018 09:55

> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> *Subject: *[nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with

> NVDA

> Hi,

> Using Windows 10 V1803, I notice that when you tab round in settings

> now, none of the lists or tabs are voiced by NVDA at all.  I do have

> App

> Essentials installed.

> Any thoughts?  They are still voiced by JAWS.

> Thanks.

> All the best

> Steve

> --

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> 77 Exeter Close

> Stevenage

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Re: Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

Steve Nutt
 

Hi Jim,

Well the previous version didn't work for me either, so something strange is going on.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Gamages via Groups.Io
Sent: 03 August 2018 14:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

HelloSteve,

Yes, I am on the latest Windows version, however, I just checked and I am using the version of NVDA previous to the latest, I will update at some point, but everything I want is working at the moment, so I will wait a bit.



Best Regards, Jim.
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Nutt
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2018 2:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

Hi Jim,

Are you on Windows 10 Version 1803?

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Gamages via Groups.Io
Sent: 03 August 2018 12:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

Hello Steve and all,

Sorry, my mistake, it lands me in a search box so of course it doesn't speak at that point, pressing tab takes me to the menus etc, it even works with NVDA, stranger and stranger.




Best Regards, Jim.
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Nutt
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2018 9:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

Even more confusing. JAWS works fine for me, I'm on JAWS 2018.

What version of JAWS are you on? If 2018, you should update to the July build, then I suspect it will work.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Gamages via Groups.Io
Sent: 03 August 2018 08:00
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

Just to add to this, Jaws doesn't work for me either, NVDA says blank, Jaws says nothing at all.



Best Regards, Jim.
-----Original Message-----
From: Brice Mijares
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2018 5:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with
NVDA

Are these settings opened by hitting windows key I? if so, I'm having no
issues.

On 8/2/2018 9:03 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi,

It is still broken with all add-ons disabled.

Update though, it is broken in Narrator as well. Glad I have JAWS for
this one.

All th best


Steve

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *abdul
muhamin
*Sent:* 01 August 2018 08:45
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible
with NVDA

Hi all. I’ve noticed the same problem yesterday, sometimes. The
settings
app is not readable by NVDA. However, you can restart this app 2 or
more
times to make it readable. I don’t know, whether this is the problem
with the last security updates of win10. or something is wrong with
some
addons, I doesn’t tri with addons disable

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Chris via Groups.Io
<mailto:chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
*Sent: *Monday, July 30, 2018 7:18 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible
with NVDA

First things first, try a restart of windows

If that don’t work , restart nvda with addons disabled

See how that goes

*From: *Steve Nutt <mailto:steve@comproom.co.uk>
*Sent: *30 July 2018 09:55
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *[nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with
NVDA

Hi,

Using Windows 10 V1803, I notice that when you tab round in settings
now, none of the lists or tabs are voiced by NVDA at all. I do have
App
Essentials installed.

Any thoughts? They are still voiced by JAWS.

Thanks.

All the best


Steve

--

Computer Room Services

77 Exeter Close

Stevenage

Hertfordshire

SG1 4PW

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Fax: +44(0)1438-759589

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Re: Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

Using:
Windows 10 64-bit, version 1803 (OS compilation 17134.191)
NVDA last Alpha

No problem in settings, either accessing through Windows+X, Settings or opening a particular applet.

Rui Fontes


Às 14:54 de 03/08/2018, David Griffith escreveu:

This is a strange situation. I have  no problems here with Settings with  NVDA, Narrator, and Jaws2018.
I am using 64 bit Windows 10 18.03
Latest stable version of NVDA and Narrator. I updated Win 10 App Essentials today.
There therefore appears to be something on Steve’s machine and others which is triggering this problem.
I have  sympathy as there are  other aspects of my Win 10 setup which do not work as they should. I cannot for example ever get goldwqave to load properly.
David Griffith
My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts
*From: *Steve Nutt <mailto:steve@comproom.co.uk>
*Sent: *03 August 2018 14:29
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA
Hi Jim,
Are you on Windows 10 Version 1803?
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Gamages via Groups.Io
Sent: 03 August 2018 12:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA
Hello Steve and all,
Sorry, my mistake, it lands me in a search box so of course it doesn't speak at that point, pressing tab takes me to the menus etc, it even works with NVDA, stranger and stranger.
Best Regards, Jim.
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Nutt
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2018 9:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA
Even more confusing.  JAWS works fine for me, I'm on JAWS 2018.
What version of JAWS are you on?  If 2018, you should update to the July build, then I suspect it will work.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Gamages via Groups.Io
Sent: 03 August 2018 08:00
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA
Just to add to this, Jaws doesn't work for me either, NVDA says blank, Jaws says nothing at all.
Best Regards, Jim.
-----Original Message-----
From: Brice Mijares
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2018 5:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with
NVDA
Are these settings opened by hitting windows key I? if so, I'm having no
issues.
On 8/2/2018 9:03 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:

> Hi,

>

> It is still broken with all add-ons disabled.

>

> Update though, it is broken in Narrator as well.  Glad I have JAWS for

> this one.

>

> All th best

>

>

> Steve

>

> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *abdul

> muhamin

> *Sent:* 01 August 2018 08:45

> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io

> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible

> with NVDA

>

> Hi all. I’ve noticed the same problem yesterday, sometimes. The

> settings

> app is not readable by NVDA. However, you can restart this app 2 or

> more

> times to make it readable. I don’t know, whether this is the problem

> with the last security updates of win10. or something is wrong with

> some

> addons, I doesn’t tri with addons disable

>

> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for

> Windows 10

>

> *From: *Chris via Groups.Io

> <mailto:chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>

> *Sent: *Monday, July 30, 2018 7:18 PM

> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> *Subject: *Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible

> with NVDA

>

> First things first, try a restart of windows

>

> If that don’t work , restart nvda with addons disabled

>

> See how that goes

>

> *From: *Steve Nutt <mailto:steve@comproom.co.uk>

> *Sent: *30 July 2018 09:55

> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> *Subject: *[nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with

> NVDA

>

> Hi,

>

> Using Windows 10 V1803, I notice that when you tab round in settings

> now, none of the lists or tabs are voiced by NVDA at all.  I do have

> App

> Essentials installed.

>

> Any thoughts?  They are still voiced by JAWS.

>

> Thanks.

>

> All the best

>

>

> Steve

>

> --

>

> Computer Room Services

>

> 77 Exeter Close

>

> Stevenage

>

> Hertfordshire

>

> SG1 4PW

>

> Tel: +44(0)1438-742286

>

> Mob: +44(0)7956-334938

>

> Fax: +44(0)1438-759589

>

> Email: steve@comproom.co.uk <mailto:steve@comproom.co.uk>

>

> Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk <http://www.comproom.co.uk/>

>

>


Re: dot mini low cost braille display and NVDA

Gary Greico <pianotuner3@...>
 

Do you know how much the dot mini cost?


On 02-Aug-18 1:44 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote:

Hi,

When the dot mini is released, will it also work with NVDA? The dot mini is being developed by the same people who make the dot watch with its 4-cell braille display, but the dot mini will have a 16-cell display.

 

https://dotincorp.com/product/dot-mini/

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 



Re: Windows Repair

E.T.
 

Yes I know I can do that, create a new VM. But the question remains, or perhaps I should rephrase it a bit, is deactivation reactivation a safe and reliable process?

I use Firefox but I use IE in limited fashion.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Ancient.Aliens@icloud.com
Science is not only compatible with spirituality;
it is a profound source of spirituality.| --Carl Sagan

On 8/3/2018 1:30 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well you could always just delete the vm and try again.
Personally ie was never fully stable even in 10.
I use it for spaciffics, gmail on some sites is one, some of my update sites if I want to autoinstall things but its slow, crappy and clunky.
Its only good because a few things still need it and its crappy interface like pcpitstop.
For those places that it is still happy with its a dream.
On 8/3/2018 5:29 PM, E.T. via Groups.Io wrote:
   This is not directly related to NVDA so please reply off list if you will. I suspect there are some very knowledgeable folks here so am hoping for some badly needed help.

   Internet Explorer under Windows 7 running in a virtual machine on the Mac crashes. I need to boot from the Windows 7 disc from the VM so I can run a repair. Since IE cannot be uninstalled this seems the only option. But there does not seem to be a way to actually boot from the disc in the VM.

   So perhaps deactivate Windows, create a new VM and then reactivate it? Is this workable?

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   Ancient.Aliens@icloud.com
Science is not only compatible with spirituality;
it is a profound source of spirituality.| --Carl Sagan




Re: Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

David Griffith
 

This is a strange situation. I have  no problems here with Settings with  NVDA, Narrator, and Jaws2018.

I am using 64 bit Windows 10 18.03

Latest stable version of NVDA and Narrator. I updated Win 10 App Essentials today.

There therefore appears to be something on Steve’s machine and others which is triggering this problem.

I have  sympathy as there are  other aspects of my Win 10 setup which do not work as they should. I cannot for example ever get goldwqave to load properly.

 

David Griffith

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: Steve Nutt
Sent: 03 August 2018 14:29
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi Jim,

 

Are you on Windows 10 Version 1803?

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Gamages via Groups.Io

Sent: 03 August 2018 12:50

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hello Steve and all,

 

Sorry, my mistake, it lands me in a search box so of course it doesn't speak at that point, pressing tab takes me to the menus etc, it even works with NVDA, stranger and stranger.

 

 

 

 

Best Regards, Jim.

-----Original Message-----

From: Steve Nutt

Sent: Friday, August 03, 2018 9:25 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Even more confusing.  JAWS works fine for me, I'm on JAWS 2018.

 

What version of JAWS are you on?  If 2018, you should update to the July build, then I suspect it will work.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Gamages via Groups.Io

Sent: 03 August 2018 08:00

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Just to add to this, Jaws doesn't work for me either, NVDA says blank, Jaws says nothing at all.

 

 

 

Best Regards, Jim.

-----Original Message-----

From: Brice Mijares

Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2018 5:17 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with

NVDA

 

Are these settings opened by hitting windows key I? if so, I'm having no

issues.

 

On 8/2/2018 9:03 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:

> Hi,

> It is still broken with all add-ons disabled.

> Update though, it is broken in Narrator as well.  Glad I have JAWS for

> this one.

> All th best

> Steve

> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *abdul

> muhamin

> *Sent:* 01 August 2018 08:45

> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io

> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible

> with NVDA

> Hi all. I’ve noticed the same problem yesterday, sometimes. The

> settings

> app is not readable by NVDA. However, you can restart this app 2 or

> more

> times to make it readable. I don’t know, whether this is the problem

> with the last security updates of win10. or something is wrong with

> some

> addons, I doesn’t tri with addons disable

> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for

> Windows 10

> *From: *Chris via Groups.Io

> <mailto:chrismedley@...>

> *Sent: *Monday, July 30, 2018 7:18 PM

> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> *Subject: *Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible

> with NVDA

> First things first, try a restart of windows

> If that don’t work , restart nvda with addons disabled

> See how that goes

> *From: *Steve Nutt <mailto:steve@...>

> *Sent: *30 July 2018 09:55

> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> *Subject: *[nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with

> NVDA

> Hi,

> Using Windows 10 V1803, I notice that when you tab round in settings

> now, none of the lists or tabs are voiced by NVDA at all.  I do have

> App

> Essentials installed.

> Any thoughts?  They are still voiced by JAWS.

> Thanks.

> All the best

> Steve

> --

> Computer Room Services

> 77 Exeter Close

> Stevenage

> Hertfordshire

> SG1 4PW

> Tel: +44(0)1438-742286

> Mob: +44(0)7956-334938

> Fax: +44(0)1438-759589

> Email: steve@... <mailto:steve@...>

> Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk <http://www.comproom.co.uk/>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

The Gamages
 

HelloSteve,

Yes, I am on the latest Windows version, however, I just checked and I
am using the version of NVDA previous to the latest, I will update at
some point, but everything I want is working at the moment, so I will
wait a bit.



Best Regards, Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Nutt
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2018 2:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with
NVDA

Hi Jim,

Are you on Windows 10 Version 1803?

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Gamages
via Groups.Io
Sent: 03 August 2018 12:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with
NVDA

Hello Steve and all,

Sorry, my mistake, it lands me in a search box so of course it doesn't
speak at that point, pressing tab takes me to the menus etc, it even
works with NVDA, stranger and stranger.




Best Regards, Jim.
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Nutt
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2018 9:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with
NVDA

Even more confusing. JAWS works fine for me, I'm on JAWS 2018.

What version of JAWS are you on? If 2018, you should update to the July
build, then I suspect it will work.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Gamages
via Groups.Io
Sent: 03 August 2018 08:00
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with
NVDA

Just to add to this, Jaws doesn't work for me either, NVDA says blank,
Jaws says nothing at all.



Best Regards, Jim.
-----Original Message-----
From: Brice Mijares
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2018 5:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with
NVDA

Are these settings opened by hitting windows key I? if so, I'm having no
issues.

On 8/2/2018 9:03 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi,

It is still broken with all add-ons disabled.

Update though, it is broken in Narrator as well. Glad I have JAWS for
this one.

All th best


Steve

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *abdul
muhamin
*Sent:* 01 August 2018 08:45
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible
with NVDA

Hi all. I’ve noticed the same problem yesterday, sometimes. The
settings
app is not readable by NVDA. However, you can restart this app 2 or
more
times to make it readable. I don’t know, whether this is the problem
with the last security updates of win10. or something is wrong with
some
addons, I doesn’t tri with addons disable

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Chris via Groups.Io
<mailto:chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
*Sent: *Monday, July 30, 2018 7:18 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible
with NVDA

First things first, try a restart of windows

If that don’t work , restart nvda with addons disabled

See how that goes

*From: *Steve Nutt <mailto:steve@comproom.co.uk>
*Sent: *30 July 2018 09:55
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *[nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with
NVDA

Hi,

Using Windows 10 V1803, I notice that when you tab round in settings
now, none of the lists or tabs are voiced by NVDA at all. I do have
App
Essentials installed.

Any thoughts? They are still voiced by JAWS.

Thanks.

All the best


Steve

--

Computer Room Services

77 Exeter Close

Stevenage

Hertfordshire

SG1 4PW

Tel: +44(0)1438-742286

Mob: +44(0)7956-334938

Fax: +44(0)1438-759589

Email: steve@comproom.co.uk <mailto:steve@comproom.co.uk>

Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk <http://www.comproom.co.uk/>


Re: Strange Behavior with NVDA and groups.io Website

Jonathan COHN
 

Dear Abby,

 

Perhaps the issue is that you are not logged into Groups.io on Firefox and Chrome.  Immediately after the “Help” button or link there is a widget that will have your name if you are logged in or else a link to the login screen.

 

HTH,

 

Jonathan

 

 

 

 

From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@...>
Reply-To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 6:40 PM
To: NVDA <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Strange Behavior with NVDA and groups.io Website

 

I don’t know if this is an issue with NVDA or the groups.io site, but I thought I would bring it up for what it’s worth. I subscribe to this and two other lists on this platform in daily summary mode to cut down on the number of messages that land in my in box. This means that the only way I can reply to a message is through the website. Today, I discovered that the Reply button is missing. I was in Firefox at the time. I switched to Chrome and then Internet Explorer before finally finding the reply button. How weird is that?

 


Re: Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

Steve Nutt
 

Hi Jim,

Are you on Windows 10 Version 1803?

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Gamages via Groups.Io
Sent: 03 August 2018 12:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

Hello Steve and all,

Sorry, my mistake, it lands me in a search box so of course it doesn't speak at that point, pressing tab takes me to the menus etc, it even works with NVDA, stranger and stranger.




Best Regards, Jim.
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Nutt
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2018 9:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

Even more confusing. JAWS works fine for me, I'm on JAWS 2018.

What version of JAWS are you on? If 2018, you should update to the July build, then I suspect it will work.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Gamages via Groups.Io
Sent: 03 August 2018 08:00
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

Just to add to this, Jaws doesn't work for me either, NVDA says blank, Jaws says nothing at all.



Best Regards, Jim.
-----Original Message-----
From: Brice Mijares
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2018 5:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with
NVDA

Are these settings opened by hitting windows key I? if so, I'm having no
issues.

On 8/2/2018 9:03 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi,

It is still broken with all add-ons disabled.

Update though, it is broken in Narrator as well. Glad I have JAWS for
this one.

All th best


Steve

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *abdul
muhamin
*Sent:* 01 August 2018 08:45
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible
with NVDA

Hi all. I’ve noticed the same problem yesterday, sometimes. The
settings
app is not readable by NVDA. However, you can restart this app 2 or
more
times to make it readable. I don’t know, whether this is the problem
with the last security updates of win10. or something is wrong with
some
addons, I doesn’t tri with addons disable

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Chris via Groups.Io
<mailto:chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
*Sent: *Monday, July 30, 2018 7:18 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible
with NVDA

First things first, try a restart of windows

If that don’t work , restart nvda with addons disabled

See how that goes

*From: *Steve Nutt <mailto:steve@comproom.co.uk>
*Sent: *30 July 2018 09:55
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *[nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with
NVDA

Hi,

Using Windows 10 V1803, I notice that when you tab round in settings
now, none of the lists or tabs are voiced by NVDA at all. I do have
App
Essentials installed.

Any thoughts? They are still voiced by JAWS.

Thanks.

All the best


Steve

--

Computer Room Services

77 Exeter Close

Stevenage

Hertfordshire

SG1 4PW

Tel: +44(0)1438-742286

Mob: +44(0)7956-334938

Fax: +44(0)1438-759589

Email: steve@comproom.co.uk <mailto:steve@comproom.co.uk>

Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk <http://www.comproom.co.uk/>