Re: Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803
Steve Nutt
Yep, this pretty much mirrors my experience, although I can never get NVDA to read the list now.
NVDA is pretty horrible with File Explorer under Windows 10, and it’s got worse with this build.
All the best
Steve
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annette Moore
Sent: 20 May 2018 20:15 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803
I just close file explorer and reopen it when it starts acting funky. either that, or I shut down NVDA and restart it. Alternatively, I can sit here and stare at the computer for a few minutes, until it decides to behave itself, which it does eventually do. It has to be an NVDA thing, though, because it doesn't do this with System Access at all. I have trouble alt tabbing between windows when it wants to act up, and then I have trouble going through list items. It's like the cursor doesn't want to move through them but it actually does; it's just NVDA isn't reading me the items. I also find that if I have more than, say, two or three windows open and I close one of them, it starts working fine again. It's random, though, so I never know when it's going to misbehave. It's not aggravating enough to make me switch screen readers, though. I just figure it'll be fixed in a future update and go with it. Annette
On 5/20/2018 11:36 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
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Re: Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803
Steve Nutt
Yes, that’s the one.
Works for me with JAWS, but not NVDA.
All the best
Steve
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 20 May 2018 19:56 To: nvda list list <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803
Is this the explorer.exe that ships with windows? That's the one I use, and it still works.
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Re: new technology challenge
Ervin, Glenn
I would turn off Courtona for one thing.
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It is always listening and sending what you say to Microsoft. Glenn
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marisane Moruthanyana Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 10:49 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] new technology challenge Evening nvda list subscribers I am Marisane from SA. I've just bought a win10 machine. I've had it for a month now. It's been giving me problems I've not experienced in my life of using windows operating system machines. This win10 machine consumes more data than I can understand. I am contracted to one of SA's network operators (Vodacom). I receive 4 gb (2 gb per day and 2 gb per night). The minute I connect my mobile wifi modem, much data is consumed. What is win10 doing different from what was done by win7? What extra apps are installed/updated? Can I delay the update or will this disadvantage my machine? In other words, will my delaying the update lead my machine to being attacked by viruses? How many times should this data-consuming update happen in a month? What setting do I have to turn off to save data? Your assistance in this regard is appreciated in advance. Marisane On 5/20/18, Jackie <abletec@gmail.com> wrote: Pleasure, Mack. Glad it helped.
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Re: Using NVDA with a Twitter Account
Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
Wrong.
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twitter is not charging for api usage, as a whole, it's only charging for certain aspects of the api, which will (at most) limit functionality of third party twitter clients, not make them unusable. According to the site I read, it's mostly related to realtime interactions, and refresh times of tweets, that's all. Your twitter clients aren't going to magically stop working, they just won't update instantly anymore. Personally, I don't find this to be a problem in the least, but that's just me.
On 5/21/2018 4:29 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Whatever you do with third party twitter apps is going to change very soon as Twitter are removing access to the API and charging huge megabucks for the new one. Methinks they want to make sure all their adverts are seen. Cannot think why! grin.
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Twitter clients. Re: Read Feeds add-on
I use feeds all the time because everything comes straight to me, rather than me having to browse. Best part is, I can combine sources into one huge RSS feed. As for the twitter clients, Twitter will be shutting down third party support in August.
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Re: Using NVDA with a Twitter Account
Clare Page <clare.page@...>
Hi!
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Judging from what I have heard recently, third party client developers having to pay exorbitant fees to use the new Twitter API is only part of the story. I gather that third party Twitter clients should still work after 16 August, but, as the new Twitter API replaces the streaming API we've had for some years now, not having the new API in third party clients means that they will no longer be able to stream tweets: in npractice, this simply means that users will have to wait longer for tweets to come in, which was the case when I joined Twitter in 2009 anyway, so it's not a big deal-breaker for me. As for Twitter with NVDA, to get back to the subject of this list, I do not know, as a Windows 7 user, whether the Windows 10 Twitter UWP app works well with NVDA, but NVDA users should still be able to use the currently accessible third party Twitter clients after 16 August, but without streaming of tweets, if I understand right. So there may not be a monopoly on Twitter after all. I hope this reassures anyone on this list who uses third party accessible Twitter clients at least a bit! Bye for now! From Clare
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: lundi 21 mai 2018 10:34 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account It affects all third party apps wherever they run. its the old API which is deprecated. The new one to do the same sort of thing has to be paid for by the app makers and twitter have made the cost so high, I suspect only themselves will be able to use it and hence make sure you get the promoted adverts by default. its what I always said about the one game in town syndrome. You get your monopoly then you cut everyone else out and coin in the dosh. Cynical? me? :-) Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Mehler" <dave.mehler@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account Hello, Does this effect android apps as well? So, August it sounds like your saying it's the win10 app or nothing on that platform or the web site? Thanks. Dave. On 5/20/18, Lino Morales <linomorales001@gmail.com> wrote: Hi. Just wanted to let you all know if you didn’t know already as of the
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Re: Espeak UK English words
Quentin Christensen
NVDA updated to eSpeak 1.49.2 in NVDA 2017.4. eSpeak 1.49.3 is in development but not yet released. So they may have addressed some of the issues but they haven't released them yet :) Quentin.
On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 6:43 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote: Hi I have been told that most of the pronunciations that were wrong like for and newsletter etc, have been fixed some time ago in the project, but from what I can tell in the latest nvda master its still not been transferred over. --
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Espeak UK English words
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Hi I have been told that most of the pronunciations that were wrong like for and newsletter etc, have been fixed some time ago in the project, but from what I can tell in the latest nvda master its still not been transferred over.
What is the issue, is Espeak NG now in some other troubles and if so, cannot somebody import the fixes and leave the main guts the same for us? I have gone back to the old Espeak as in speech player in Espeak again today as its hard to understand some words. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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Re: Stopping windows 10 from consuming so much data, was RE: [nvda] new technology challenge
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Is there a strand of Windows 10 that will work like old windows, IE not forced to get the 6 month updates but still get security patches, so one can use it without worrying about it having to effectively re install and change lots of stuff when it does?
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From: "JM Casey" <crystallogic@ca.inter.net> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 9:06 PM Subject: Stopping windows 10 from consuming so much data, was RE: [nvda] new technology challenge Hello Marisane. Read this page. It might help you. https://www.techyuga.com/stop-windows-10-from-using-so-much-data/ I experienced something similar when I first got this machine and was having trouble with my ISP. I set Windows to use my mobile phone's data connection, and it promptly maxed me out for the month. I set the connection to metered .. a little too late, but at least I know to do it if I ever need to tether to the phone again. Now, the page above is somewhat out of date; I believe mS has made some changes in the last year, due in parts to complaints like yours. If you get stuck, do a google search for something like "setting metered connection in Windows 10" and you should eventually be set straight. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marisane Moruthanyana Sent: May 20, 2018 11:49 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] new technology challenge Evening nvda list subscribers I am Marisane from SA. I've just bought a win10 machine. I've had it for a month now. It's been giving me problems I've not experienced in my life of using windows operating system machines. This win10 machine consumes more data than I can understand. I am contracted to one of SA's network operators (Vodacom). I receive 4 gb (2 gb per day and 2 gb per night). The minute I connect my mobile wifi modem, much data is consumed. What is win10 doing different from what was done by win7? What extra apps are installed/updated? Can I delay the update or will this disadvantage my machine? In other words, will my delaying the update lead my machine to being attacked by viruses? How many times should this data-consuming update happen in a month? What setting do I have to turn off to save data? Your assistance in this regard is appreciated in advance. Marisane On 5/20/18, Jackie <abletec@gmail.com> wrote: Pleasure, Mack. Glad it helped.
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Re: Read Feeds add-on
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
For two months then what?
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From: "John Isige" <gwynn@tds.net> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 7:15 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Read Feeds add-on Well, I don't use feeds for anything I don't think, but if I did, I might use it. It would be a quick way to get to feeds. For instance, suppose I'm reading a couple of news feeds. It would probably be faster to use the addon and browse headlines and hit just the stuff I care about, than to open a browser and do it that way. This way I'm only opening a browser for full articles that I'm interested in reading. It's just another way for people to get stuff done. I mean, what's special about the Twitter clients for the blind? We can all just go to Twitter's website now. But the clients make it easier. On 5/20/2018 12:23, Lino Morales wrote:
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Re: Using NVDA with a Twitter Account
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
It affects all third party apps wherever they run.
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its the old API which is deprecated. The new one to do the same sort of thing has to be paid for by the app makers and twitter have made the cost so high, I suspect only themselves will be able to use it and hence make sure you get the promoted adverts by default. its what I always said about the one game in town syndrome. You get your monopoly then you cut everyone else out and coin in the dosh. Cynical? me? :-) Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "David Mehler" <dave.mehler@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account Hello, Does this effect android apps as well? So, August it sounds like your saying it's the win10 app or nothing on that platform or the web site? Thanks. Dave. On 5/20/18, Lino Morales <linomorales001@gmail.com> wrote: Hi. Just wanted to let you all know if you didn’t know already as of the
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Re: Using NVDA with a Twitter Account
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Whatever you do with third party twitter apps is going to change very soon as Twitter are removing access to the API and charging huge megabucks for the new one. Methinks they want to make sure all their adverts are seen. Cannot think why! grin.
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I don't do it myself, but I know several people who think twitter will be useless in August. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Rich De Steno" <ironrock@verizon.net> To: <nvda@groups.io> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 12:51 PM Subject: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account What is the easiest way to "follow" and "unfollow" sources with NVDA. The official Twitter web site merely advises to "hover over the person with your mouse", offering no keyboard option. I am using TW Blue and find no keyboard method of "following" or "unfollowing" a source. Even the applications key fails to offer such an option.
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Re: Problems When tried Shutting Down NVDA
That sucks for logitec.
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However the microsoft web cams the live series runs on just about everything and is good enough.
On 5/21/2018 2:47 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
It's funny how we just put up with their quirks sometimes - In order to use
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Re: Problems When tried Shutting Down NVDA
It is.
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I'm already used to this, really. Me and my computer, we have a strange connection, it's funny how out of these problems it seems to perfectly understand me sometimes LOL Em 20/05/2018 23:47, Quentin
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Re: Unable to read speaker notes in PowerPoint 2016
Quentin Christensen
You mentioned not being sure if it was the keyboard, if you run your slideshow, and turn input help on (NVDA+1), then press control+shift+s, it should read "ctrl+shift+s Toggles between reporting the speaker notes or the actual slide content. This does not change what is visible on-screen, but only what the user can read with NVDA"
On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 1:26 PM, Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@...> wrote:
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Re: Unable to read speaker notes in PowerPoint 2016
I am using nvda 2018.1 with power point 2016 which is a part of office365.
On 21-May-2018, at 8:34 AM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
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Re: Unable to read speaker notes in PowerPoint 2016
Quentin Christensen
Which version of NVDA / PowerPoint are you using? I just tried in PowerPoint 2016 (Office 365) and the latest NVDA Next snapshot and it seemed to work fine. Note that was when running the slideshow. To view speaker notes while editing a presentation, press alt+w, p, n to toggle whether speaker notes are visible. When visible, you should be able to get to the notes with F6. Kind regards Quentin.
On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 10:39 AM, Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@...> wrote: Hi all, --
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Re: Problems When tried Shutting Down NVDA
Quentin Christensen
It's funny how we just put up with their quirks sometimes - In order to use my microphone, I have to go into it and disable then reenable it each time I turn the computer on. It's an annoyance, but I just do it - I must admit, I have looked into it before and it seems to be an issue with this webcam that Logitech aren't interested in fixing so it's either deal with it, or buy a different model webcam. Yours sounds a bit more serious though.
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Re: Problems When tried Shutting Down NVDA
This is an old problem, I guess it happen to me since I started to
use this computer.
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Anyway, I really don't googled about it yet. I'm going to do it right now. Em 20/05/2018 21:15, Quentin
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Re: open live writer is not accessible yet.
Hey there! A tad late coming into the party! BUT I am very familiar with markdown. I usually publish by email, to a wordpress.com blog, or use IFTTT to post my blog via text message or twitter DM, but I like the idea of just firing up one program where all my blog accounts are stored, including, Medium. I saw they were working on adding medium integration, which would allow me to take more journalism jobs because publishers are moving to a subscription model on medium so us writers can get paid. I publish my own member exclusive content to Medium, but I have yet to find an accessible desktop solution that can publish straight to these platforms without me having to sign in every time. Further down the thread, they explain that it can be done, but, with me being a writer, and editor, I didn't quite get what it's coded in, even. NVDA is treating the text editor like it is an HTML web page, rather than a text editor. I tried looking for a LibreOffice to blogger or LibreOffice to medium, or, LibreOffice to wordpress.com, not .org solution, but none exists. I find that for me, writing in a web interface is slow and clunky. I will download that text editor and try it out! I have Jarte Pro, portable version, but, strangely enough, Jarte treats markdown like it's a typo.
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