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Re: Elequence or something as good for NVDA

Rui Fontes
 

CodeFactory Eloquence versions are the onlys one legal...

They have one SAPI5 version and a NVDA addon version.

I prefere the SAPI5 version...

Rui Fontes


Às 19:48 de 22/07/2018, James Bentley escreveu:

Do you know if the Code Factory version is the best.
I have heard that at least one of the 2 versions out there is glitchy.
James B
*From:* Richard Wells <mailto:richwels@gmx.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, July 22, 2018 1:03 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Elequence or something as good for NVDA
James, they allow three installations of Eloquence if you are referring to the Code Factory product.
On 7/22/2018 10:01 AM, James Bentley wrote:
Hi all,
I have questions about diffferent  voices for NVDA.
If I purchase Elequence for NVDA, do I have to pay around 40 dollars for each PC that I am using?
Can the portible NVDA be set up with Elequence or something almost as good?
Thanks,
James B


Re: Eloquence or something as good for NVDA

James Bentley <bentleyj1952@...>
 

I haven’t heard from Richard yet but my impression was that he wanted to discuss East Texas and other things related to where we live.
 
After reading your last post, I am pretty certain that I will just use Eloquence from Code Factory when I come up with the cash.  And, just use the original NVDA voice on a thumb drive when I want to have speech on a computer outside of my home.
 
Gene, thank you for your input.  I sure wouldn’t have been impressed if I paid around $40,for lousy speech.  Especially since I am so impressed with NVDA itself.
 
As I learn more, I will probably be interested in what some of the NVDA add ons do but I have my plate full right now since I am also learning how to use Chrome.
 
Cheers,
 
James B
 
 
 

From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Elequence or something as good for NVDA
 
There is something else to consider.  First, I may have misunderstood the request to take the sub ject off list.  It might have referred to where people live.  I often see people take topics of general interest off lists and I first thought the request referred to the Eloquence discussion.
 
As far as the SAPI 5 versus the add on is concerned, I don't think you can use the SAPI 5 verxsion unless it is installed on the computer you want to use it with.  I suspect, though you would have to check, that you can use the add with a portable version and that it would run with the rest of NVDA from a thumb drive.  Perhaps, considering the problem of artifacts, you might want to have both versions, depending on where you are going to use the artifact.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Elequence or something as good for NVDA
 
Why do people want to take things off list that are of general interest.  This is such a topic.  There are demos of the Code Factory SAPI 5 Eloquence and of the add on, which has both Eloquence and another series of voices.  The Eloquence in the add on, I don't recall who makes and distributes it, has lots of artifacts and is significantly inferior for that reason.  All sorts of unwanted and annoying sounds occur.  the other synthesizer included is fine, but not the Eloquence.
 
I suggest trying either or both demos when deciding what you might want to use.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Elequence or something as good for NVDA
 

Write me privately at richwels@... and I'll talk more about this.


On 7/22/2018 1:48 PM, James Bentley wrote:
Do you know if the Code Factory version is the best.
 
I have heard that at least one of the 2 versions out there is glitchy.
 
James B
 
 
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Elequence or something as good for NVDA
 

James, they allow three installations of Eloquence if you are referring to the Code Factory product.


On 7/22/2018 10:01 AM, James Bentley wrote:
Hi all,
 
I have questions about diffferent  voices for NVDA.
 
If I purchase Elequence for NVDA, do I have to pay around 40 dollars for each PC that I am using?
 
Can the portible NVDA be set up with Elequence or something almost as good?
 
Thanks,
 
James B
 
 



here is my little bit of experiment

sardar shankar
 

plz know me your opinions suggestions are wellcomed do keep in mind
that this is my first post regarding NVDA and i'm new to this
blogging! http://sardartechsollutions4vi.blogspot.com/2018/07/here-is-fully-functional-portable-nvda.html


Re: Elequence or something as good for NVDA

Gene
 

There is something else to consider.  First, I may have misunderstood the request to take the sub ject off list.  It might have referred to where people live.  I often see people take topics of general interest off lists and I first thought the request referred to the Eloquence discussion.
 
As far as the SAPI 5 versus the add on is concerned, I don't think you can use the SAPI 5 verxsion unless it is installed on the computer you want to use it with.  I suspect, though you would have to check, that you can use the add with a portable version and that it would run with the rest of NVDA from a thumb drive.  Perhaps, considering the problem of artifacts, you might want to have both versions, depending on where you are going to use the artifact.
 

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Elequence or something as good for NVDA

Why do people want to take things off list that are of general interest.  This is such a topic.  There are demos of the Code Factory SAPI 5 Eloquence and of the add on, which has both Eloquence and another series of voices.  The Eloquence in the add on, I don't recall who makes and distributes it, has lots of artifacts and is significantly inferior for that reason.  All sorts of unwanted and annoying sounds occur.  the other synthesizer included is fine, but not the Eloquence.
 
I suggest trying either or both demos when deciding what you might want to use.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Elequence or something as good for NVDA

Write me privately at richwels@... and I'll talk more about this.


On 7/22/2018 1:48 PM, James Bentley wrote:
Do you know if the Code Factory version is the best.
 
I have heard that at least one of the 2 versions out there is glitchy.
 
James B
 
 
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Elequence or something as good for NVDA
 

James, they allow three installations of Eloquence if you are referring to the Code Factory product.


On 7/22/2018 10:01 AM, James Bentley wrote:
Hi all,
 
I have questions about diffferent  voices for NVDA.
 
If I purchase Elequence for NVDA, do I have to pay around 40 dollars for each PC that I am using?
 
Can the portible NVDA be set up with Elequence or something almost as good?
 
Thanks,
 
James B
 
 



NVDA and Firefox

E.T.
 

For a long time I have been using a large screen and set up \Windows 7 using the high contrast theme. There are some elements that are invisible when using Firefox. Most times I can work around this. I am starting to use NVDA to fill in the gaps.

Still learning though. I ran into an issue on the MedicAlert web site. There are 3 buttons or elements in its shopping cart that have no labels and do not speak. I would appreciate some pointers on this so I can resolve this. Thanks much.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Ancient.Aliens@icloud.com
Science is not only compatible with spirituality;
it is a profound source of spirituality.| --Carl Sagan


Re: Elequence or something as good for NVDA

Gene
 

Why do people want to take things off list that are of general interest.  This is such a topic.  There are demos of the Code Factory SAPI 5 Eloquence and of the add on, which has both Eloquence and another series of voices.  The Eloquence in the add on, I don't recall who makes and distributes it, has lots of artifacts and is significantly inferior for that reason.  All sorts of unwanted and annoying sounds occur.  the other synthesizer included is fine, but not the Eloquence.
 
I suggest trying either or both demos when deciding what you might want to use.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Elequence or something as good for NVDA

Write me privately at richwels@... and I'll talk more about this.


On 7/22/2018 1:48 PM, James Bentley wrote:
Do you know if the Code Factory version is the best.
 
I have heard that at least one of the 2 versions out there is glitchy.
 
James B
 
 
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Elequence or something as good for NVDA
 

James, they allow three installations of Eloquence if you are referring to the Code Factory product.


On 7/22/2018 10:01 AM, James Bentley wrote:
Hi all,
 
I have questions about diffferent  voices for NVDA.
 
If I purchase Elequence for NVDA, do I have to pay around 40 dollars for each PC that I am using?
 
Can the portible NVDA be set up with Elequence or something almost as good?
 
Thanks,
 
James B
 
 



Re: Introduction, and a question

James Bentley <bentleyj1952@...>
 

I think that puts us around 80 miles away from each other.
 
OK, I think I will start using the forced disconnect since its worked for you that many times.
 
James B
 
 
 

Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Introduction, and a question
 

James: The force disconnect will close all processes on the media and eject it. I have used it hundreds of times with no undesired consequences. I know exactly where you are. I am north of you between Gilmer and Pittsburg.


On 7/22/2018 1:47 PM, James Bentley wrote:
Hi,
 
I moved from Houston to Nacogdoches over 30 years ago.
 
I saw the option in Windows 7 to do a forced disconnect.  Since I wasn’t shure, I decided to power down.  According to another list member, even powering down isn’t a guarantee that the thumb drive might get corrupted.
 
I created a second thumb drive so in the rare chance of file corruption, I have a backup.
 
Regards,
 
James B
 
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Introduction, and a question
 
James: I am running Windows 10, so this may not be available in Windows
7. In the disconnect dialog, there should also be a continue button,
that will force close all files and eject the media. You should not have
to restart. Of course, you do want to shut down NVDA properly and start
JAWS before you do any of this ejecting stuff.


By the way, I am also in East Texas and am curious as to where you are.
I would have asked you privately, but I couldn't figure out how to get
Thunderbird to relinquish your Email address.


On 7/22/2018 9:50 AM, Damien Garwood wrote:

> Hi James,
> If you are running NVDA from the thumb drive, then disconnecting it
> while it is running will cause problems for NVDA, and you will get no
> feedback. So yes, closing down the machine and then disconnecting your
> drive is, in my opinion, the best course of action.
> Cheers,
> Damien.
>
> On 22/07/2018 03:35 PM, James Bentley wrote:
>> Ah, yes, that toggle fixed the problem.
>> And, I discovered a tutorial  in the NVDA help menu.  So, that
>> problem is also fixed.
>> I sure wish I had installed NVDA a long time ago.
>> Gene, I am going to ask you or, anyone another question.
>> I put NVDA Portible on a thumb drive.  I discovered that I can not do
>> a safe disconnect because Winndows 7 says that the files are still in
>> use. So, I just powered down the box and disconnected that way.  Is
>> this normal?  Orr, is there a way around this?
>> Gene, thanks,
>> James B
>> *From:* Gene mailto:gsasner@...
>> *Sent:* Sunday, July 22, 2018 9:12 AM
>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Introduction, and a question
>> Try NVDA key, either insert by default, f4. You should hear either
>> speak command keys on or speak command keys off.   It's a toggle.  If
>> off, you shouldn't hear the announcement.
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* James Bentley mailto:bentleyj1952@...
>> *Sent:* Sunday, July 22, 2018 5:34 AM
>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> *Subject:* [nvda] Introduction, and a question
>> Hi all,
>> I am James Bentley from East Texas.
>> I recently installed NVDA out of curiosity and for a backup to Jaws.
>> I am extremely impressed with NVDA.  Its small, efficient, and
>> surprisingly powerful.  Especially since it is free of charge. I
>> predict it will continue to grow and improve at a rapid rate.
>> May I start with 2 quick questions?
>> Is there a tutorial available?
>> And, Is it possible to stop NVDA from saying, arrow up or arrow down
>> while I am arrowing  up and down through a web page?
>> Many thanks.  And, I’m glad to be here.
>> James B
>>
>
>
>





Re: Elequence or something as good for NVDA

Richard Wells
 

Write me privately at richwels@... and I'll talk more about this.


On 7/22/2018 1:48 PM, James Bentley wrote:
Do you know if the Code Factory version is the best.
 
I have heard that at least one of the 2 versions out there is glitchy.
 
James B
 
 
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Elequence or something as good for NVDA
 

James, they allow three installations of Eloquence if you are referring to the Code Factory product.


On 7/22/2018 10:01 AM, James Bentley wrote:
Hi all,
 
I have questions about diffferent  voices for NVDA.
 
If I purchase Elequence for NVDA, do I have to pay around 40 dollars for each PC that I am using?
 
Can the portible NVDA be set up with Elequence or something almost as good?
 
Thanks,
 
James B
 
 



Re: Introduction, and a question

Richard Wells
 

James: The force disconnect will close all processes on the media and eject it. I have used it hundreds of times with no undesired consequences. I know exactly where you are. I am north of you between Gilmer and Pittsburg.


On 7/22/2018 1:47 PM, James Bentley wrote:
Hi,
 
I moved from Houston to Nacogdoches over 30 years ago.
 
I saw the option in Windows 7 to do a forced disconnect.  Since I wasn’t shure, I decided to power down.  According to another list member, even powering down isn’t a guarantee that the thumb drive might get corrupted.
 
I created a second thumb drive so in the rare chance of file corruption, I have a backup.
 
Regards,
 
James B
 
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Introduction, and a question
 
James: I am running Windows 10, so this may not be available in Windows
7. In the disconnect dialog, there should also be a continue button,
that will force close all files and eject the media. You should not have
to restart. Of course, you do want to shut down NVDA properly and start
JAWS before you do any of this ejecting stuff.


By the way, I am also in East Texas and am curious as to where you are.
I would have asked you privately, but I couldn't figure out how to get
Thunderbird to relinquish your Email address.


On 7/22/2018 9:50 AM, Damien Garwood wrote:

> Hi James,
> If you are running NVDA from the thumb drive, then disconnecting it
> while it is running will cause problems for NVDA, and you will get no
> feedback. So yes, closing down the machine and then disconnecting your
> drive is, in my opinion, the best course of action.
> Cheers,
> Damien.
>
> On 22/07/2018 03:35 PM, James Bentley wrote:
>> Ah, yes, that toggle fixed the problem.
>> And, I discovered a tutorial  in the NVDA help menu.  So, that
>> problem is also fixed.
>> I sure wish I had installed NVDA a long time ago.
>> Gene, I am going to ask you or, anyone another question.
>> I put NVDA Portible on a thumb drive.  I discovered that I can not do
>> a safe disconnect because Winndows 7 says that the files are still in
>> use. So, I just powered down the box and disconnected that way.  Is
>> this normal?  Orr, is there a way around this?
>> Gene, thanks,
>> James B
>> *From:* Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, July 22, 2018 9:12 AM
>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Introduction, and a question
>> Try NVDA key, either insert by default, f4. You should hear either
>> speak command keys on or speak command keys off.   It's a toggle.  If
>> off, you shouldn't hear the announcement.
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* James Bentley <mailto:bentleyj1952@...>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, July 22, 2018 5:34 AM
>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> *Subject:* [nvda] Introduction, and a question
>> Hi all,
>> I am James Bentley from East Texas.
>> I recently installed NVDA out of curiosity and for a backup to Jaws.
>> I am extremely impressed with NVDA.  Its small, efficient, and
>> surprisingly powerful.  Especially since it is free of charge. I
>> predict it will continue to grow and improve at a rapid rate.
>> May I start with 2 quick questions?
>> Is there a tutorial available?
>> And, Is it possible to stop NVDA from saying, arrow up or arrow down
>> while I am arrowing  up and down through a web page?
>> Many thanks.  And, I’m glad to be here.
>> James B
>>
>
>
>





Re: Elequence or something as good for NVDA

James Bentley <bentleyj1952@...>
 

Do you know if the Code Factory version is the best.
 
I have heard that at least one of the 2 versions out there is glitchy.
 
James B
 
 

Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Elequence or something as good for NVDA
 

James, they allow three installations of Eloquence if you are referring to the Code Factory product.


On 7/22/2018 10:01 AM, James Bentley wrote:
Hi all,
 
I have questions about diffferent  voices for NVDA.
 
If I purchase Elequence for NVDA, do I have to pay around 40 dollars for each PC that I am using?
 
Can the portible NVDA be set up with Elequence or something almost as good?
 
Thanks,
 
James B
 
 


Re: Introduction, and a question

James Bentley <bentleyj1952@...>
 

Hi,
 
I moved from Houston to Nacogdoches over 30 years ago.
 
I saw the option in Windows 7 to do a forced disconnect.  Since I wasn’t shure, I decided to power down.  According to another list member, even powering down isn’t a guarantee that the thumb drive might get corrupted.
 
I created a second thumb drive so in the rare chance of file corruption, I have a backup.
 
Regards,
 
James B
 

Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Introduction, and a question
 
James: I am running Windows 10, so this may not be available in Windows
7. In the disconnect dialog, there should also be a continue button,
that will force close all files and eject the media. You should not have
to restart. Of course, you do want to shut down NVDA properly and start
JAWS before you do any of this ejecting stuff.


By the way, I am also in East Texas and am curious as to where you are.
I would have asked you privately, but I couldn't figure out how to get
Thunderbird to relinquish your Email address.


On 7/22/2018 9:50 AM, Damien Garwood wrote:

> Hi James,
> If you are running NVDA from the thumb drive, then disconnecting it
> while it is running will cause problems for NVDA, and you will get no
> feedback. So yes, closing down the machine and then disconnecting your
> drive is, in my opinion, the best course of action.
> Cheers,
> Damien.
>
> On 22/07/2018 03:35 PM, James Bentley wrote:
>> Ah, yes, that toggle fixed the problem.
>> And, I discovered a tutorial  in the NVDA help menu.  So, that
>> problem is also fixed.
>> I sure wish I had installed NVDA a long time ago.
>> Gene, I am going to ask you or, anyone another question.
>> I put NVDA Portible on a thumb drive.  I discovered that I can not do
>> a safe disconnect because Winndows 7 says that the files are still in
>> use. So, I just powered down the box and disconnected that way.  Is
>> this normal?  Orr, is there a way around this?
>> Gene, thanks,
>> James B
>> *From:* Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, July 22, 2018 9:12 AM
>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Introduction, and a question
>> Try NVDA key, either insert by default, f4. You should hear either
>> speak command keys on or speak command keys off.   It's a toggle.  If
>> off, you shouldn't hear the announcement.
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* James Bentley <mailto:bentleyj1952@...>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, July 22, 2018 5:34 AM
>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> *Subject:* [nvda] Introduction, and a question
>> Hi all,
>> I am James Bentley from East Texas.
>> I recently installed NVDA out of curiosity and for a backup to Jaws.
>> I am extremely impressed with NVDA.  Its small, efficient, and
>> surprisingly powerful.  Especially since it is free of charge. I
>> predict it will continue to grow and improve at a rapid rate.
>> May I start with 2 quick questions?
>> Is there a tutorial available?
>> And, Is it possible to stop NVDA from saying, arrow up or arrow down
>> while I am arrowing  up and down through a web page?
>> Many thanks.  And, I’m glad to be here.
>> James B
>>
>
>
>




Re: Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1 -

 

On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 01:57 PM, Cristóbal wrote:
You have to be in the Skype window for any of the commands to work though. Inconvenient to say the least.
I'm shocked to hear that it ever worked any other way (and I believe what you've said).   That violates virtually every "rule" Windows (any version) ever had about focus and how it determines what process/program gets what keystrokes.  

I believe that JAWS and NVDA both have some mechanism that if you start Skype first (or second through something like fifth or sixth) that there's a keyboard shortcut to throw focus to open program #X on the taskbar.  Were I constantly using Skype under the current circumstances I'd probably force it to open in position number 1 so that it's easy to throw focus to without needing to ALT+TAB to get to it.  I don't have my reference materials handy so I may be just making this up, but I don't think so.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: Elequence or something as good for NVDA

Richard Wells
 

James, they allow three installations of Eloquence if you are referring to the Code Factory product.


On 7/22/2018 10:01 AM, James Bentley wrote:
Hi all,
 
I have questions about diffferent  voices for NVDA.
 
If I purchase Elequence for NVDA, do I have to pay around 40 dollars for each PC that I am using?
 
Can the portible NVDA be set up with Elequence or something almost as good?
 
Thanks,
 
James B
 
 


Re: Introduction, and a question

Richard Wells
 

James: I am running Windows 10, so this may not be available in Windows 7. In the disconnect dialog, there should also be a continue button, that will force close all files and eject the media. You should not have to restart. Of course, you do want to shut down NVDA properly and start JAWS before you do any of this ejecting stuff.


By the way, I am also in East Texas and am curious as to where you are. I would have asked you privately, but I couldn't figure out how to get Thunderbird to relinquish your Email address.

On 7/22/2018 9:50 AM, Damien Garwood wrote:

Hi James,
If you are running NVDA from the thumb drive, then disconnecting it while it is running will cause problems for NVDA, and you will get no feedback. So yes, closing down the machine and then disconnecting your drive is, in my opinion, the best course of action.
Cheers,
Damien.

On 22/07/2018 03:35 PM, James Bentley wrote:
Ah, yes, that toggle fixed the problem.
And, I discovered a tutorial  in the NVDA help menu.  So, that problem is also fixed.
I sure wish I had installed NVDA a long time ago.
Gene, I am going to ask you or, anyone another question.
I put NVDA Portible on a thumb drive.  I discovered that I can not do a safe disconnect because Winndows 7 says that the files are still in use. So, I just powered down the box and disconnected that way.  Is this normal?  Orr, is there a way around this?
Gene, thanks,
James B
*From:* Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, July 22, 2018 9:12 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Introduction, and a question
Try NVDA key, either insert by default, f4. You should hear either speak command keys on or speak command keys off.   It's a toggle.  If off, you shouldn't hear the announcement.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* James Bentley <mailto:bentleyj1952@att.net>
*Sent:* Sunday, July 22, 2018 5:34 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Introduction, and a question
Hi all,
I am James Bentley from East Texas.
I recently installed NVDA out of curiosity and for a backup to Jaws.
I am extremely impressed with NVDA.  Its small, efficient, and surprisingly powerful.  Especially since it is free of charge. I predict it will continue to grow and improve at a rapid rate.
May I start with 2 quick questions?
Is there a tutorial available?
And, Is it possible to stop NVDA from saying, arrow up or arrow down while I am arrowing  up and down through a web page?
Many thanks.  And, I’m glad to be here.
James B


Re: Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1 -

Cristóbal
 

Yes. I wasn’t at first since it wasn’t listed in the shortcut table, but indeed, you can answer an incoming call with this command. You have to be in the Skype window for any of the commands to work though. Inconvenient to say the least.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of P. Otter
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 1:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1 -

 

are you realy sure, the hotkey to answer a call is similar with the key to start an audiocall?
 
cheers
paul otter

Op 21-7-2018 om 19:23 schreef Cristóbal:

Answering is control plus shift plus P.  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of P. Otter
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 11:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1 -

 

yes, most of the things are possible.
but how can I answer an incoming call, alt pgup don't work and how can i activate the hotkeys for skype?
for example, in a list i see, ctrl e, sometimes it works but some times not then the connection keeps open.
but in the list i see ctrl e is stop connection.
i'm curious!
cheers
paul otter
 

Op 21-7-2018 om 05:45 schreef Supanut Leepaisomboon:

When you open Skype 8, NVDA treats it just like a normal web page. So if you can navigate the web using NVDA, then you can navigate around the interface of the new Skype 8 as well.

 

 


Re: Introduction, and a question

James Bentley <bentleyj1952@...>
 

Hi,

I have been trying to use safe disconnect in Windows 7. I always get the warning message even if I wait 10 minutes. So, for now, I will power down my system before removing the thumb drive until I learn more. Also, I made a backup copy of NVDA portable on a second thumb drive just for my convenience.

Thanks for all of your information.

Concerning money for helping NVDA, I have a question or 2.

I would like to donate a very small amount of money to the development of NVDA using either a debit/credit card or by phone on a monthly basis. I prefer not to use PayPal.
Does anyone have a phone number or a web site that does not use PayPal?

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: Jackie
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 10:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Introduction, and a question

James, To power down a thumb drive, go to your systray (windows key +
b), press the notification chevron button, (spacebar), then arrow thru
till you find a button to safely remove/eject hardware. Right-click
that (applications key, shift-f10), & you'll get a context menu where
you can eject the drive safely.

In addition to the user guide & the excellent materials provided by
Joseph Lee, NV Access itself has some paid training materials that go
to support continued development of NVDA. It's available at
nvaccess.org, then click the 'shop' link. The materials are available
in either ebook or audio form, & I think are quite reasonably priced,
if it's at all in your budget.

On 7/22/18, James Bentley <bentleyj1952@att.net> wrote:
OK, I like the idea of having 2 dedicated thumb drives in case one is
damaged.

The warning from Windows saying that files may be corrupted if I continue
with removing the thumb drive makes me a bit nervous. I may stick with
powering down until I learn more. And, I will wait several minutes to give
Windows more time to finish writing files.

Thanks for your suggestions,

James B

From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 10:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Introduction, and a question

I wouldn't waste time powering down. Even if you power down, according to
what I've read, information may not be written to the drive properly before
the computer stops. If this is correct, powering down may damage
information on a drive just as improper removal may. To be safe, you might
want to just use a dedicated thumb drive for NVDA, with nothing else on it,
and to have another dedicated drive with you in case the first one is
damaged and you want to use NVDA again when out.

I consider that if the following is adhered to, the chance for corruption is
minimal, or nonexistent.

A file remains in use after you unload NVDA. You may be able to use a third
party utility to stop the file, but I don't think it's necessary. As far as
I know, while NVDA is being used, very little, if any, information would be
written to the thumb drive except when you do something like save changed
settings.

By default, NVDA saves settings on exit. So, if you have changed settings
and then shut down NVDA, just to be safe, I would say to wait a minute or
two before removing the drive. If you don't change any settings, I doubt it
matters if you don't wait..

I don't have the technical knowledge of NVDA to kno if I am write that very
little or no information is written, except when saving settings, but that
is my guess. I see no reason why it would need to nbe. NVDA is placed in
memory and runs from memory when you run it.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: James Bentley
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 9:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Introduction, and a question

Ah, yes, that toggle fixed the problem.

And, I discovered a tutorial in the NVDA help menu. So, that problem is
also fixed.

I sure wish I had installed NVDA a long time ago.

Gene, I am going to ask you or, anyone another question.

I put NVDA Portible on a thumb drive. I discovered that I can not do a safe
disconnect because Winndows 7 says that the files are still in use. So, I
just powered down the box and disconnected that way. Is this normal? Orr,
is there a way around this?

Gene, thanks,

James B



From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 9:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Introduction, and a question

Try NVDA key, either insert by default, f4. You should hear either speak
command keys on or speak command keys off. It's a toggle. If off, you
shouldn't hear the announcement.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: James Bentley
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 5:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Introduction, and a question

Hi all,

I am James Bentley from East Texas.

I recently installed NVDA out of curiosity and for a backup to Jaws.

I am extremely impressed with NVDA. Its small, efficient, and surprisingly
powerful. Especially since it is free of charge. I predict it will
continue to grow and improve at a rapid rate.
May I start with 2 quick questions?

Is there a tutorial available?

And, Is it possible to stop NVDA from saying, arrow up or arrow down while I
am arrowing up and down through a web page?

Many thanks. And, I’m glad to be here.

James B






--
Remember! Friends Help Friends Be Cybersafe
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Helping Cybercrime Victims 1 Person at a Time
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Re: improvements for zoom

 

I am hugely confused why people didn't write to zoom and ask them to fix it. I don't get it, but anyway, if anybody wants to write in to the access team, their email is below. If I were you, I would write more than, edit fields don't work. Their email is below. The below goes to their accessibility team. People should write to them.

access@...


Re: Introduction, and a question

 

Hi,
Note that the tutorial is a bit out of date, although most of its contents are applicable in later NVDA releases. I'm planning to produce several addenda to update various topics covered in there, the biggest one being the transformation of preferences dialogs - or perhaps someone could.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Damien Garwood
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 7:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Introduction, and a question

Hi there James,
Welcome to the list.
Glad you like the concept of NVDA. It has been in development for over a decade now and so it's a pretty solid piece of kit and is regularly maintained.
To turn command keys off, press NVDA+4. the NVDA key is either any of the insert keys, or the capslock key.
The NVDA help is a solid source of information, but if you prefer it in tutorial/walkthrough/demonstration form, I can recommend an excellent tutorial, done by Joseph Lee, which covers most things you'll need to know about using NVDA.
Visit http://josephsl.net/tutorials, and download the "Welcome to NVDA 2018" series.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Damien.

On 22/07/2018 11:34 AM, James Bentley wrote:
Hi all,
I am James Bentley from East Texas.
I recently installed NVDA out of curiosity and for a backup to Jaws.
I am extremely impressed with NVDA. Its small, efficient, and
surprisingly powerful. Especially since it is free of charge. I
predict it will continue to grow and improve at a rapid rate.
May I start with 2 quick questions?
Is there a tutorial available?
And, Is it possible to stop NVDA from saying, arrow up or arrow down
while I am arrowing up and down through a web page?
Many thanks. And, I’m glad to be here.
James B


Re: Introduction, and a question

Jackie
 

James, To power down a thumb drive, go to your systray (windows key +
b), press the notification chevron button, (spacebar), then arrow thru
till you find a button to safely remove/eject hardware. Right-click
that (applications key, shift-f10), & you'll get a context menu where
you can eject the drive safely.

In addition to the user guide & the excellent materials provided by
Joseph Lee, NV Access itself has some paid training materials that go
to support continued development of NVDA. It's available at
nvaccess.org, then click the 'shop' link. The materials are available
in either ebook or audio form, & I think are quite reasonably priced,
if it's at all in your budget.

On 7/22/18, James Bentley <bentleyj1952@att.net> wrote:
OK, I like the idea of having 2 dedicated thumb drives in case one is
damaged.

The warning from Windows saying that files may be corrupted if I continue
with removing the thumb drive makes me a bit nervous. I may stick with
powering down until I learn more. And, I will wait several minutes to give
Windows more time to finish writing files.

Thanks for your suggestions,

James B

From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 10:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Introduction, and a question

I wouldn't waste time powering down. Even if you power down, according to
what I've read, information may not be written to the drive properly before
the computer stops. If this is correct, powering down may damage
information on a drive just as improper removal may. To be safe, you might
want to just use a dedicated thumb drive for NVDA, with nothing else on it,
and to have another dedicated drive with you in case the first one is
damaged and you want to use NVDA again when out.

I consider that if the following is adhered to, the chance for corruption is
minimal, or nonexistent.

A file remains in use after you unload NVDA. You may be able to use a third
party utility to stop the file, but I don't think it's necessary. As far as
I know, while NVDA is being used, very little, if any, information would be
written to the thumb drive except when you do something like save changed
settings.

By default, NVDA saves settings on exit. So, if you have changed settings
and then shut down NVDA, just to be safe, I would say to wait a minute or
two before removing the drive. If you don't change any settings, I doubt it
matters if you don't wait..

I don't have the technical knowledge of NVDA to kno if I am write that very
little or no information is written, except when saving settings, but that
is my guess. I see no reason why it would need to nbe. NVDA is placed in
memory and runs from memory when you run it.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: James Bentley
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 9:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Introduction, and a question

Ah, yes, that toggle fixed the problem.

And, I discovered a tutorial in the NVDA help menu. So, that problem is
also fixed.

I sure wish I had installed NVDA a long time ago.

Gene, I am going to ask you or, anyone another question.

I put NVDA Portible on a thumb drive. I discovered that I can not do a safe
disconnect because Winndows 7 says that the files are still in use. So, I
just powered down the box and disconnected that way. Is this normal? Orr,
is there a way around this?

Gene, thanks,

James B



From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 9:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Introduction, and a question

Try NVDA key, either insert by default, f4. You should hear either speak
command keys on or speak command keys off. It's a toggle. If off, you
shouldn't hear the announcement.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: James Bentley
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 5:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Introduction, and a question

Hi all,

I am James Bentley from East Texas.

I recently installed NVDA out of curiosity and for a backup to Jaws.

I am extremely impressed with NVDA. Its small, efficient, and surprisingly
powerful. Especially since it is free of charge. I predict it will
continue to grow and improve at a rapid rate.
May I start with 2 quick questions?

Is there a tutorial available?

And, Is it possible to stop NVDA from saying, arrow up or arrow down while I
am arrowing up and down through a web page?

Many thanks. And, I’m glad to be here.

James B





--
Remember! Friends Help Friends Be Cybersafe
Jackie McBride
Helping Cybercrime Victims 1 Person at a Time
https://brighter-vision.com


Re: Introduction, and a question

James Bentley <bentleyj1952@...>
 

OK, I like the idea of having 2 dedicated thumb drives in case one is damaged.
 
The warning from Windows saying that files may be corrupted if I continue with removing the thumb drive makes me a bit nervous.  I may stick with powering down until I learn more.  And, I will wait several minutes to give Windows more time to finish writing files.
 
Thanks for your suggestions,
 
James B
 

From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Introduction, and a question
 
I wouldn't waste time powering down.  Even if you power down, according to what I've read, information may not be written to the drive properly before the computer stops.  If this is correct, powering down may damage information on a drive just as improper removal may.  To be safe, you might want to just use a dedicated thumb drive for NVDA, with nothing else on it, and to have another dedicated drive with you in case the first one is damaged and you want to use NVDA again when out. 
 
I consider that if the following is adhered to, the chance for corruption is minimal, or nonexistent. 
 
A file remains in use after you unload NVDA.  You may be able to use a third party utility to stop the file, but I don't think it's necessary.  As far as I know, while NVDA is being used, very little, if any,  information would be written to the thumb drive except when you do something like save changed settings. 
 
By default, NVDA saves settings on exit.  So, if you have changed settings and then shut down NVDA, just to be safe, I would say to wait a minute or two before removing the drive.  If you don't change any settings, I doubt it matters if you don't wait.. 
 
I don't have the technical knowledge of NVDA to kno if I am write that very little or no information is written, except when saving settings, but that is my guess.  I see no reason why it would need to nbe.  NVDA is placed in memory and runs from memory when you run it.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Introduction, and a question
 
Ah, yes, that toggle fixed the problem.
 
And, I discovered a tutorial  in the NVDA help menu.  So, that problem is also fixed.
 
I sure wish I had installed NVDA a long time ago.
 
Gene, I am going to ask you or, anyone another question.
 
I put NVDA Portible on a thumb drive.  I discovered that I can not do a safe disconnect because Winndows 7 says that the files are still in use.  So, I just powered down the box and disconnected that way.  Is this normal?  Orr, is there a way around this?
 
Gene, thanks,
 
James B
 
 
 
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Introduction, and a question
 
Try NVDA key, either insert by default, f4.  You should hear either speak command keys on or speak command keys off.   It's a toggle.  If off, you shouldn't hear the announcement.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 5:34 AM
Subject: [nvda] Introduction, and a question
 
Hi all,
 
I am James Bentley from East Texas.
 
I recently installed NVDA out of curiosity and for a backup to Jaws.
 
I am extremely impressed with NVDA.  Its small, efficient, and surprisingly powerful.  Especially since it is free of charge.  I predict it will continue to grow and improve at a rapid rate. 
May I start with 2 quick questions?
 
Is there a tutorial available?
 
And, Is it possible to stop NVDA from saying, arrow up or arrow down while I am arrowing  up and down through a web page?
 
Many thanks.  And, I’m glad to be here.
 
James B