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Joseph Lee's add-ons: all compatible with wxPython 4 with additional notes for SPL, WinTenApps and others

 

Hi all,

 

An update on various add-ons I’m maintaining regarding their compatibility with wxPython 4 (consequently, NVDA 2018.3):

 

  • Enhanced Touch Gestures: compatible with wxPython 4. Version 18.10 will require NVDA 2018.3.
  • Golden Cursor: compatible with wxPython 4. Small refinements will be made in upcoming 3.2 release.
  • StationPlaylist Studio: compatible with wxPython 4. Version 18.09 (LTS) will require NVDA 2018.3.
  • SystrayList: compatible with wxPython 4.
  • Unicode Braille Input: compatible with wxPython 4. Small refinements will be done as part of 2.9 release.
  • Windows 10 App Essentials: compatible with wxPython 4. Version 18.10 will require NVDA 2018.3.

 

Add-ons not listed are those that does not use wxPython.

 

Notes for certain add-ons:

 

StationPlaylist Studio: version 18.09 is designated 2018 LTS. This long-term support release is the last version to support Studio 5.10, based on old assumptions, and is the last release series to be powered by Python 2. This series also requires NVDA 2018.3 or later for two reasons: introduction of multi-page add-on settings, and GUI code will be based on wxPython 4. The sunset date (end of life) for version 18.09.x LTS is January 1, 2020, the same sunset date as Python 2, and no support extensions will be granted unless really critical issues emerge on a case by case basis.

 

Golden Cursor: version 3.x will continue to support NVDA 2017.3 or later in order to provide long-term support for Windows XP users. This will change with generation 4 (4.0 and beyond), as that generation will be Python 3 based, hence dropping support for Python 2 based NVDA releases. One or two minor features from 4.0 will make it to a 3.x release, but that won’t happen for a while.

 

Windows 10 App Essentials: as I noted a few days ago, version 18.10 and later will require NVDA 2018.3 or later for reasons on top of wxPython 4. Those running NVDA alpha (master) snapshots are already seeing what I mean with pilot builds of this add-on.

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: switching keyboard language/was/Re: [nvda] bookmarks in firefox

Laurie Mehta
 

Thanks.
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On Fri, 7/20/18, Lino Morales <linomorales001@gmail.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: switching keyboard language/was/Re: [nvda] bookmarks in firefox
To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Friday, July 20, 2018, 10:02 AM


Hi Laurie. Its simple. Press WIN key plus spacebar to switch to what keyboard language you downloaded. You do the same to switch back to English.   Sent from Mail for Windows 10


Issues in installation of nvda add-on's:

soundappan selvaraj
 

I am Soundappan from India, i am facing issues wile install add-on in

NVDA. I've updated my windows 10 version in to 1803. after this update

i can't install add-on in my NVDA. i've tried all the possibilities

like Re-installing of NVDA, delete the add-on's and delete the files

in local/roming/nvda. please give me a solutions for the installation

of add-on's.

 

 


Re: Setting NVDA audio device output?

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

We have had reports before on here that many things switch on auto but nvda does not. I suspect this might be on purpose as if for instance you are outputting music you would not want the speech to always be output.
Can anyone comment?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Stewart" <paganus2@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Setting NVDA audio device output?


I finally found it. It's not just synth settings. You need to go to change synth and even though I didn't want to change synth, the first option in there is set sound output device. I got it sorted now.

Thanks.

Roger











On 7/20/2018 3:14 PM, Artin Dekker wrote:
Hi Roger,

It is in the synthesizer settings, NVDA + CTRL + S.

Sincerely,
Artin Dekker


Op 20-7-2018 om 20:08 schreef Roger Stewart:
I just get a new HP monitor. It is showing it has a sound device and that it is working and ready. I check in volume control and NVDA isn't showing up there anywhere. I try to find where in NVDA to change the output device and I can't find it. Think it used to be in either general preferences or speech but I checked everywhere and can't seem to find it anymore. Can someone please tell me where to look for this setting?


Thanks.


Roger








Re: switching keyboard language/was/Re: [nvda] bookmarks in firefox

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Apparently so, as i say this seems a very dodgy easy to mess with combination to me. I'm glad its not in windows 7 with my typong accuracy!
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: switching keyboard language/was/Re: [nvda] bookmarks in firefox


As was already stated its windows+spacebar to switch language
This is assuming you have two or more language packs installed in windows 10
If you only have one language pack installed this of course will do nothing


From: Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io
Sent: 20 July 2018 17:54
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: switching keyboard language/was/Re: [nvda] bookmarks in firefox

This post mentions switching keyboard language in Win10 being easy. It's posted on a thread about something else, though, and I have not seen a thread with subject line regarding keyboard language switching.

So, I am wondering--
How does someone switch keyboard language (in Win10 or otherwise)?
It would be useful to know this so that one could switch back if an unintended change was made.

Thanks!
-LM

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Quoting original message, Fri, 7/20/18:

Subject: Re: [nvda] bookmarks in firefox

I am a little worried though that switching keyboard languages is so easy to
do in windows 10, this looks like a disaster for some coming along. Its not
that its not easy to fix, but that many people do not know it can occur this
way since it seems a little too simple and is not what has been happening in
windows before.
Brian


Re: Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1 -

 
Edited

You actually brought up the point that I forgot to bring up in my last message lol.
Anyways, I'm not sure as well; and I think the lack of keyboard shortcuts is probably my biggest complaints about the new Skype (I remember someone posted a link to a list of Skype keyboard shortcuts somewhere, but can't remember exactly where it is or whether it's for Skype 7 or 8).
Update: Here's the official list of Skype 8 hotkeys: https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA12025/what-are-hotkeys-and-how-do-i-use-them-in-skype


Re: Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1 -

P. Otter
 

yes, most of the things are possible.
but how can I answer an incoming call, alt pgup don't work and how can i activate the hotkeys for skype?
for example, in a list i see, ctrl e, sometimes it works but some times not then the connection keeps open.
but in the list i see ctrl e is stop connection.
i'm curious!
cheers
paul otter
 

Op 21-7-2018 om 05:45 schreef Supanut Leepaisomboon:

When you open Skype 8, NVDA treats it just like a normal web page. So if you can navigate the web using NVDA, then you can navigate around the interface of the new Skype 8 as well.


Re: Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1 -

 

When you open Skype 8, NVDA treats it just like a normal web page. So if you can navigate the web using NVDA, then you can navigate around the interface of the new Skype 8 as well.


Re: VFO not complimentary about NVDA

 

As a business student, I wonder how viable as a business model it would be if I was to set up a firm dedicated to providing NVDA tech support and consultant for organizations.
Of course, any tech support staff I hired would need to undergo NVDA training and would eventually need to be certified as experts by Nvaccess.


Re: possible eloquence solution

 

Well I do have a totally useless partly dropped dead rusting keynote gold 1850 that will never see the light of day ever again!

If someone wants this and can pay me the shipping cash for the entire crappyness go ahead and get that card out if you think you can extract it.

All I ask is a mention in previding the card in the credits, especially if its going to be free ofcause if humanware object to this then the only thing I would charge would be something like 10 bucks for the us language version which is all I have.

On 7/21/2018 3:53 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
the only thing I can think of that may allow a modern sapi5 keynote gold software to be built, would be if someone has a brailleNote apex or brailleNote classic and could extract the firmware, with an eProm chip extractor, possibly.



Re: Add-on development: contracts, Python and such

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Brian


I would agree if standards were followed and stuff labeled etc
correctly. I got told if it was done correctly the developers would not
have to do as much on there side but sadly they do to make stuff work/


At a place in in Australia where a friend of mine worked he had control
over the buying of software etc for the state.


They also had blind workers there and basically what they would do is
say the software has to be fully accessible with adaptive tech more
along the line of screen readers or we will not purchase your software
until it is done. Also if they come across problems it must be fixed.


I guess also people who make software or web sites etc do not realize if
they do not label stuff this will be the result if you do not with a
person say using a screen reader. for example search button  or just the
word button you get what i mean.


Gene nz

On 7/20/2018 9:21 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Yes would it not be great if software manufactures simply made their
software screenreader compatible in the first place... sigh.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Ervin, Glenn"
<glenn.ervin@nebraska.gov>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on development: contracts, Python and such


Yes, I think it would be useful for the NvAccess site to have a list
of available scripters and their locations, and then state agencies
would have a resource to contact for such things.
I work for a state agency, and I hate it when people bash state
agencies without knowing how things work for such things.
Granted, some staff who don't use screenreaders can't possibly
remember all the solutions, although they should, they don't, so they
think only of the one solution that is most common.
But I have brought up the topic of NVDA as a solution in the
workplace, and then the issue of scripting comes up.

Glenn

Glenn


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 11:50 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Add-on development: contracts, Python and such

Hi,
I'm starting a brand new thread that should provide a space to talk
about add-on development, including contract work, Python and such.

Cheers,
Joseph








Re: Setting NVDA audio device output?

Roger Stewart
 

I finally found it. It's not just synth settings. You need to go to change synth and even though I didn't want to change synth, the first option in there is set sound output device.  I got it sorted now.

Thanks.

Roger

On 7/20/2018 3:14 PM, Artin Dekker wrote:
Hi Roger,

It is in the synthesizer settings, NVDA + CTRL + S.

Sincerely,
Artin Dekker


Op 20-7-2018 om 20:08 schreef Roger Stewart:
I just get a new HP monitor. It is showing it has a sound device and that it is working and ready. I check in volume control and NVDA isn't showing up there anywhere. I try to find where in NVDA to change the output device and I can't find it.  Think it used to be in either general preferences or speech but I checked everywhere and can't seem to find it anymore. Can someone please tell me where to look for this setting?


Thanks.


Roger







Re: Setting NVDA audio device output?

 

Hi Roger,

It is in the synthesizer settings, NVDA + CTRL + S.

Sincerely,
Artin Dekker


Op 20-7-2018 om 20:08 schreef Roger Stewart:

I just get a new HP monitor. It is showing it has a sound device and that it is working and ready. I check in volume control and NVDA isn't showing up there anywhere. I try to find where in NVDA to change the output device and I can't find it.  Think it used to be in either general preferences or speech but I checked everywhere and can't seem to find it anymore. Can someone please tell me where to look for this setting?


Thanks.


Roger




Re: possible eloquence solution

Devin Prater
 

Okay, thanks for the clarification. Well, if any company would do it, it'd be Microsoft.

Devin Prater




On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 1:46 PM -0500, "Travis Siegel" <tsiegel@...> wrote:

No microsoft wouldn't have to buy anything except the license for 
eloquence.  No need to buy any companies at all, simply the license to use 
eloquence in windows, that's all.  Any individual user could do thee same 
if sufficient funds were available, but not having a clue what price tag 
would be placed on eloquence source, it's impossible to say what it would 
cost for individuals, business, corporations, or anything else about it.


On Tue, 17 Jul 2018, Devin Prater wrote:

> Microsoft would have to buy Nuance, not just CodeFactory. 
> --
> 
> 
>




Re: New to list, newbie question, everything new starts here I guess

 

On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 03:56 PM, Rob DeZonia wrote:
How steep is the learning curve on Windows 10
Learning Windows 10 is a lot less challenging than learning Windows 8/8.1 was, since Windows 8/8.1 made a tectonic shift in the UI where it was presumed that pretty much all the world would be using touch screen devices - which simply isn't the case and never will be.

Windows 10 is a marriage between what was good about Windows 7 and earlier as well as the things that were good about Windows 8.  I found it much easier to transition directly from Windows 7 to Windows 10 than it was for my partner to transition (with lots of assistance and frustration on my part) from Windows 7 to Windows 8.1.  When he was on 8.1 we made it as "Windows 7-like" as we could without installing something like Classic Shell.

The Windows 10 start menu is a big change from 7 but since I put desktop shortcuts on for virtually anything I use frequently I seldom need the start menu.  Even when I do, I hit the Windows Key and start typing the name of the thing I'm trying to find and run, and way more than 9 times out of 10 it's either the first thing returned in the search list or the only thing if I go beyond 4 characters.
 
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    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: possible eloquence solution

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

No microsoft wouldn't have to buy anything except the license for eloquence. No need to buy any companies at all, simply the license to use eloquence in windows, that's all. Any individual user could do thee same if sufficient funds were available, but not having a clue what price tag would be placed on eloquence source, it's impossible to say what it would cost for individuals, business, corporations, or anything else about it.

On Tue, 17 Jul 2018, Devin Prater wrote:

Microsoft would have to buy Nuance, not just CodeFactory. 
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Re: New to list, newbie question, everything new starts here I guess

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Windows 8 was a complete failure, nobody liked it, and it was a bit buggy. However, windows 8.1 fixed most of the issues folks had with the os, and many many folks use windows 8.1 every single day, Myself among them. I have no problems with 8.1 except for things related to virus scanning software, but I understand that's not unique to 8.1 anyway, so I don't worry about it. There is also an issue that will sometimes prevent a program from installing correctly on 8.1 which has no issues on windows 10 or 7, and although those programs are few, they are problems at times. I've personally runinto 2 or 3 of those programs, some of which I got installed anyways by working around the windows install process, but I understand that some folks won't have that option, so in those kinds of cases, 8.1 may not be an os they would like to run. Me personally though? I like it, and because of licensing issues when switching to windows 10, I will wait until the absolute last moment to upgrade, (or I'll just go back to linux and OSX depending on how I feel about it all at that point.


Setting NVDA audio device output?

Roger Stewart
 

I just get a new HP monitor. It is showing it has a sound device and that it is working and ready. I check in volume control and NVDA isn't showing up there anywhere. I try to find where in NVDA to change the output device and I can't find it.  Think it used to be in either general preferences or speech but I checked everywhere and can't seem to find it anymore. Can someone please tell me where to look for this setting?


Thanks.


Roger


Re: VFO not complimentary about NVDA

 

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 12:13 PM, Cristóbal wrote:
Yeah, that’s a false equivalency. Not even remotely close.
Indeed.  When it comes to technology one very often has to go with what a given employer will support.

Reasonable accommodations does not mean "getting precisely what I want" but "getting the tools necessary to do the job, even if I have to learn them."

The above being said, asking for what you actually do want and explaining why you want it is often the only chance you'll have of getting it, so it's always worth doing.  It's also worth pushing things up the chain of command if what you've said is dismissed out of hand by someone, particularly if that someone has no idea of what's being talked about (and that includes the vast majority of IT people when it comes to assistive technology of any sort and reasonable accommodations in general).
 
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    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: switching keyboard language/was/Re: [nvda] bookmarks in firefox

Cristóbal
 

Left shift plus left alt key stil works for me. This has to be enabled in settings though, but it’s a one time deal and forget about it.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 10:02 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: switching keyboard language/was/Re: [nvda] bookmarks in firefox

 

Hi Laurie. Its simple. Press WIN key plus spacebar to switch to what keyboard language you downloaded. You do the same to switch back to English.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io <lauriemehta@...>
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 12:54:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: switching keyboard language/was/Re: [nvda] bookmarks in firefox

 

This post mentions switching keyboard language in Win10 being easy. It's posted on a thread about something else, though, and I have not seen a thread with subject line regarding keyboard language switching.

So, I am wondering--
How does someone switch keyboard language (in Win10 or otherwise)?
It would be useful to know this so that one could switch back if an unintended change was made.

Thanks!
-LM

--------------------------------------------
Quoting original message, Fri, 7/20/18:

 Subject: Re: [nvda] bookmarks in firefox

I am a little worried though that switching keyboard languages is so easy to
do in windows 10, this looks like a disaster for some coming along. Its not
that its not easy to fix, but that many people do not know it can occur this
way since it seems a little too simple and is not what has been happening in
windows before.
Brian