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Re: Win 10 mail app and forcing it to use Edge?

The Gamages
 

Hello David,
 
I’m using office 2010 like you, so I amobviously not doing things correctly, can you give me more difinitive keystrokes etc to do the job?
 
Best Regards, Jim.
 

Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Win 10 mail app and forcing it to use Edge?
 

What version of Word are you trying to access?

It is the case that Narrator does not, and as I understand it will never support the older versions of Word.

Similarly whilst it does work fine with Windows Mail it does not support older  versions of Outlook.

I had thought that support was going to be included for more modern versions of Office but I  am not sure about this as i am still using Office 2010..

Narrator certainly works fine and as expected finding edit areas and typing into both Notepad and WordPad so in theory  support for WordProcessing should be possible..

David Griffith

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: The Gamages via Groups.Io
Sent: 23 March 2018 08:19
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Win 10 mail app and forcing it to use Edge?

 

Hello Rosemarie and others who answered my message,

 

I see that Narrator can be used to access my files etc, but what I can't

do is get to the edit area of Word for instance, I just go round in

circles, from the title and then to the system controls, I know about

scan mode but this doesn't help at all, without scan mode I just get the

key I press read out, it just doesn't work like a normal screen reader,

NVDA for instance, will land me on the edit area in Word immediately and

I get to other stuff if I choose to do so.  Narrator is alright for

emergencies, can anyone tell me how to get to the edit area in Word so

that I can type into it? or even read it? after all Word is a microsoft

product, so it should work well.

Simple instructions would be much appreciated.

Thank you all.

 

 

 

Best Regards, Jim.

-----Original Message-----

From: Rosemarie Chavarria

Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 3:38 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Win 10 mail app and forcing it to use Edge?

 

Hi, Jim,

 

I think narrator is great when you get into a jam or if you don't have a

screen reader, you can use narrator to install a screen reader like

NVDA.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

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Gamages via Groups.Io

Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 12:54 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Win 10 mail app and forcing it to use Edge?

 

Hello,

Brian's comment about Narrator is relevant to this thread, has anyone

tried narrator lately? it's a nightmare as far as I am concerned, I just

go round and round in circles, long may NVDA continue to prosper.

Incedentally, Freedom scientific are proposing doing away with 40 minute

mode for Jaws, in favour of a 30 day trial, after which you will need to

pay for the program, I heard that on one of their Webinars, or whatever

they call them, when Eric Damery was talking to Jonathon Mosen, Sorry

for the off topic comment, but I know many people use Jaws in 40 minute

mode as an extra reference source.

 

 

 

Best Regards, Jim.

-----Original Message-----

From: Shaun Everiss

Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 9:16 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Win 10 mail app and forcing it to use Edge?

 

Probably, ofcause there will be ways round it, I will for example never

use their email program as long as thunderbird continues to be fine with

its esr version till its not.

 

 

 

 

On 21/03/2018 10:29 p.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

> There are rumours circulating that Microsoft intends to hard code the

> choice of browser that there mail app opens when you click on a link

> in an email. This of course will be Edge.

> So is this more nanny mode assuming people are not able to protect

> themselves, or an attempt to get Edge to be the logical choice for

> home users.

> Can you imagine what might happen if they suddenly decided anyone

> using a screenreader would have to use Narrator and turned the others

> off?

>

> Weird if true.

> Brian

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Re: Win 10 mail app and forcing it to use Edge?

David Griffith
 

What version of Word are you trying to access?

It is the case that Narrator does not, and as I understand it will never support the older versions of Word.

Similarly whilst it does work fine with Windows Mail it does not support older  versions of Outlook.

I had thought that support was going to be included for more modern versions of Office but I  am not sure about this as i am still using Office 2010..

Narrator certainly works fine and as expected finding edit areas and typing into both Notepad and WordPad so in theory  support for WordProcessing should be possible..

David Griffith

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: The Gamages via Groups.Io
Sent: 23 March 2018 08:19
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Win 10 mail app and forcing it to use Edge?

 

Hello Rosemarie and others who answered my message,

 

I see that Narrator can be used to access my files etc, but what I can't

do is get to the edit area of Word for instance, I just go round in

circles, from the title and then to the system controls, I know about

scan mode but this doesn't help at all, without scan mode I just get the

key I press read out, it just doesn't work like a normal screen reader,

NVDA for instance, will land me on the edit area in Word immediately and

I get to other stuff if I choose to do so.  Narrator is alright for

emergencies, can anyone tell me how to get to the edit area in Word so

that I can type into it? or even read it? after all Word is a microsoft

product, so it should work well.

Simple instructions would be much appreciated.

Thank you all.

 

 

 

Best Regards, Jim.

-----Original Message-----

From: Rosemarie Chavarria

Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 3:38 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Win 10 mail app and forcing it to use Edge?

 

Hi, Jim,

 

I think narrator is great when you get into a jam or if you don't have a

screen reader, you can use narrator to install a screen reader like

NVDA.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of The

Gamages via Groups.Io

Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 12:54 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Win 10 mail app and forcing it to use Edge?

 

Hello,

Brian's comment about Narrator is relevant to this thread, has anyone

tried narrator lately? it's a nightmare as far as I am concerned, I just

go round and round in circles, long may NVDA continue to prosper.

Incedentally, Freedom scientific are proposing doing away with 40 minute

mode for Jaws, in favour of a 30 day trial, after which you will need to

pay for the program, I heard that on one of their Webinars, or whatever

they call them, when Eric Damery was talking to Jonathon Mosen, Sorry

for the off topic comment, but I know many people use Jaws in 40 minute

mode as an extra reference source.

 

 

 

Best Regards, Jim.

-----Original Message-----

From: Shaun Everiss

Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 9:16 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Win 10 mail app and forcing it to use Edge?

 

Probably, ofcause there will be ways round it, I will for example never

use their email program as long as thunderbird continues to be fine with

its esr version till its not.

 

 

 

 

On 21/03/2018 10:29 p.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

> There are rumours circulating that Microsoft intends to hard code the

> choice of browser that there mail app opens when you click on a link

> in an email. This of course will be Edge.

> So is this more nanny mode assuming people are not able to protect

> themselves, or an attempt to get Edge to be the logical choice for

> home users.

> Can you imagine what might happen if they suddenly decided anyone

> using a screenreader would have to use Narrator and turned the others

> off?

> Weird if true.

> Brian

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Re: NVDA w/AVG 2018

Gene
 

Your opinion of Windows Defender, the version used in Windows 10 and I believe it's also used in Windows 8, is based on old and no longer accurate information.  Windows Defender, has improved significantly over roughly the last year or year and one half.  It isn't considered as good as many antivirus programs, but it is considered to be adequate and alright to be used for the typical user, though not, as I said, as good and it is still better to use a different better program.  But it's considered adequate, as I said. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 3:53 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA w/AVG 2018

Its not accessible any more. I noticed this when Avast took them over and
screwed even the bits that worked. There was a lively debate on here a month
or so back I seem to remember trying to find a third party solution that was
still accessible, and apart from the Open source one which is very crude and
worse than Defender/msse, nobody came up with one that I can recall.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Guy Schlosser" <guyster@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 4:57 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA w/AVG 2018


Hi all:
I am trying to use NVDA with the latest version of AVG antivirus. When I try
to see the area of the screen where you change your username And password,
NVDA doesn't seem to read this. All it says when you tab around the box is
unknown. I have another machine which has jaws for windows on it, and JAWS
can see this box with no problem. Is there anyway I can get this resolved
with NVDA? Any help with this also greatly appreciated.

Thanks,


Guy







Re: NVDA with iCloud

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

So in other words then, they do not fire an event to tell the screenreader where to put the focus on the screen when it starts. I'd have thought Apple could do that easiliy if they wanted to.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Griffith" <daj.griffith@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with iCloud



The problem with iCloud Manager is one of focus.
If you can get a mouse click into the iCloud Dialogue the controls become accessible with tab etc.
To be honest with this I normally use Jaws – use the route Jaws cursor to PC cursor command and then do a virtual mouse click. Then the iCloud Window becomes accessible.
You could try using the object navigation command in NVDA NVDA plus numpad + to see if you can then also do a virtual mouse click to get a similar result.
David Griffith



My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

From: Guy Schlosser
Sent: 23 March 2018 04:18
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA with iCloud

Hi all, I am trying to use iCloud with NVDA 2018.1 release. I am having a problem though, because when I launch the iCloud app, I can’t see any of the checkboxes, for Notes, documents, iCloud Drive, etc with NVDA. Is there a reason for this, or is there something I need to do differently? This machine is running Windows 7, and I suspect that the iCloud Drive check box is not checked. When I look in the windows explorer at the iCloud Drive folder, it is empty. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,

Guy


Re: NVDA with iCloud

David Griffith
 

 

The problem with iCloud Manager is one of focus.

If you can get a mouse click into the iCloud Dialogue the controls become accessible with tab etc.

To be honest with this I normally use Jaws – use the route  Jaws cursor to PC cursor command and then do a virtual mouse click. Then the iCloud Window becomes accessible.

You could try using the object navigation command in NVDA NVDA plus numpad +  to see if you can then also do a virtual mouse click to get a similar result.

David Griffith

 

 

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: Guy Schlosser
Sent: 23 March 2018 04:18
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA with iCloud

 

Hi all, I am trying to use iCloud with NVDA 2018.1 release. I am having a problem though, because when I launch the iCloud app, I can’t see any of the checkboxes, for Notes, documents, iCloud Drive, etc with NVDA. Is there a reason for this, or is there something I need to do differently? This machine is running Windows 7, and I suspect that the iCloud Drive check box is not checked. When I look in the windows explorer at the iCloud Drive folder, it is empty. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

 

Guy

 

 

 


Re: Accessible EPUB Reader

Mallard
 

Oh well... There are such kind of people... Very clever, but pretty inconstant (is this a proper English word, or have I made it up, by theway? Translated straightly from the Italian "Incostante"...).


Things being as you describe them, I doubt there will be either updates or code release... Great pity, but that's life, I suppose...

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 23/03/2018 10:17, Rob Hudson ha scritto:
Mallard <mallard@...> wrote:
Has Qread really been abandoned?
There have been no updates for years, and all inquiries I have made about it have gone unanswered. This developer is famous for such behavior. He's rather erratic and has a bad habit of starting projects and then moving on to something else. He's been that way ever since he was a kid. Lol. Yes I remember him from that far back.



Re: Accessible EPUB Reader

Mallard
 

Hey Chris,



If Qread $15 now? I thought it was at least $30!


15 is more than fair!


Ciao,

Ollie

Il 22/03/2018 23:56, Christopher-Mark Gilland ha scritto:

Hey there Chris.

I personally really really like QRead from QContinuum. It’s about 15 bucks, but it’s very very very worth it. It can read EPub, PDF, Bookshare with a built in downloader, etc.

It really has become my book reader for the PC. I absolutely love it!

Chris.

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*From: *chris miles <mailto:grrenfly@...>
*Sent: *Thursday, March 22, 2018 6:20 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Accessible EPUB Reader

On 21/03/2018 20:01, Lanie Molinar wrote:

Hi, everyone. Is there a good free EPUB reader that works on
Windows 10 and is accessible with NVDA? I know you can read EPUB
files with Microsoft Edge, but I was unsure of how well that works
since I don't use Edge very much at all. I have Adobe Digital
Editions, and reading books is accessible, but the list of books
in my library isn't. It doesn't read any of the information about
the book, so I have to use OCR to see which book I'm focused on,
which is really annoying. I do like how Adobe Digital Editions
syncs all books I add to my library with my Adobe account, but I'm
willing to do without that if there's a more accessible
alternative. Does anyone know of one? Thanks.


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Hi,

Adobe Digital Editions 2.0 (I have installed) will read Epub items. I have now updated to version 4.5.


Re: Accessible EPUB Reader

Mallard
 

Well, I think good work deserves beingrewarded, and "that dev's" work is usually very good.


However, as I mentioned in my previous message, if he really decides to abandon the programme, it would be nice if he could either release the code and make it open source, or make the software free, or at least lower the price.


On the other hand, if he intends to continue developing and improving it, the price is more than fair, considering the quality and usefulness of it.


Ciao,

Ollie - a convinced Qreader

Il 23/03/2018 00:14, Ben J. Bloomgren ha scritto:

I totally agree. People can complain about that developer’s pricing, but when he puts out a gem, it’s a gem!

Ben

*From: *Christopher-Mark Gilland <mailto:@AHeart4God316>
*Sent: *Thursday, March 22, 2018 15:56
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Accessible EPUB Reader

Hey there Chris.

I personally really really like QRead from QContinuum. It’s about 15 bucks, but it’s very very very worth it. It can read EPub, PDF, Bookshare with a built in downloader, etc.

It really has become my book reader for the PC. I absolutely love it!

Chris.

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*From: *chris miles <mailto:grrenfly@...>
*Sent: *Thursday, March 22, 2018 6:20 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Accessible EPUB Reader

On 21/03/2018 20:01, Lanie Molinar wrote:

Hi, everyone. Is there a good free EPUB reader that works on
Windows 10 and is accessible with NVDA? I know you can read EPUB
files with Microsoft Edge, but I was unsure of how well that works
since I don't use Edge very much at all. I have Adobe Digital
Editions, and reading books is accessible, but the list of books
in my library isn't. It doesn't read any of the information about
the book, so I have to use OCR to see which book I'm focused on,
which is really annoying. I do like how Adobe Digital Editions
syncs all books I add to my library with my Adobe account, but I'm
willing to do without that if there's a more accessible
alternative. Does anyone know of one? Thanks.


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Hi,

Adobe Digital Editions 2.0 (I have installed) will read Epub items. I have now updated to version 4.5.


Re: Accessible EPUB Reader

Rob Hudson
 

Mallard <mallard@...> wrote:
Has Qread really been abandoned?
There have been no updates for years, and all inquiries I have made about it have gone unanswered. This developer is famous for such behavior. He's rather erratic and has a bad habit of starting projects and then moving on to something else. He's been that way ever since he was a kid. Lol. Yes I remember him from that far back.


Re: Accessible EPUB Reader

Mallard
 

Has Qread really been abandoned?


It would be a pity, because it's been a lifesaver for me over the last few years.


Of course, if one wants to be able to navigate by headings, links and the like, as in a html file (which an epub actually is), that's not the best app.

However, I think we Qreaders should contact the dev, and ask him not to abandon this software.


Alternatively, he might release the code and make it open source, so that someone else with programming ability could take it up and continue development and bug resolution.


I don't think it's fair to continue selling the software for a relatively high price if it's no longer developed (but then, ehm, Nuance and Eloquence are a good example of this policy).


Ciao, have a great day all!

Ollie

Il 23/03/2018 00:23, Rob Hudson ha scritto:
Ronald J Glaser <truefriends@...> wrote:
I tototally agree tih you ben and chrisx, about QRead, this program is a
great piece of work!
Too bad it's been abandoned, by all indications.
There's a bug in it where by-number heading navigation doesn't work; and that bug has been extant for the past few years. There are also a few problems with the epub parser that only come up with certain files, but again, no fixes are forthcoming, apparently.
However, it seems to be our best option for ebook reading.



Re: Accessible EPUB Reader

Mallard
 

NVDA Remote...

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 23/03/2018 04:59, Christopher-Mark Gilland ha scritto:

Oh, he’s done a lot of stuff.

Chicken Nugget, QRead, QCast, Hope, QFeed, and I think maybe one or two more.

Chris.

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*From: *JM Casey <mailto:crystallogic@...>
*Sent: *Thursday, March 22, 2018 7:18 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Accessible EPUB Reader

The price is more than reasonable. Especially when you consider how exorbitant some stuff is … not mentioning names here, but you know.

But what else has he put out? I thought I remembered looking at his site and not seeing any other software up there, which seemed strange….but it was some time ago, and perhaps I just missed something.

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Ben J. Bloomgren
*Sent:* March 22, 2018 7:14 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessible EPUB Reader

I totally agree. People can complain about that developer’s pricing, but when he puts out a gem, it’s a gem!

Ben

*From: *Christopher-Mark Gilland <mailto:@AHeart4God316>
*Sent: *Thursday, March 22, 2018 15:56
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Accessible EPUB Reader

Hey there Chris.

I personally really really like QRead from QContinuum. It’s about 15 bucks, but it’s very very very worth it. It can read EPub, PDF, Bookshare with a built in downloader, etc.

It really has become my book reader for the PC. I absolutely love it!

Chris.

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10

*From: *chris miles <mailto:grrenfly@...>
*Sent: *Thursday, March 22, 2018 6:20 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Accessible EPUB Reader

On 21/03/2018 20:01, Lanie Molinar wrote:

Hi, everyone. Is there a good free EPUB reader that works on
Windows 10 and is accessible with NVDA? I know you can read EPUB
files with Microsoft Edge, but I was unsure of how well that works
since I don't use Edge very much at all. I have Adobe Digital
Editions, and reading books is accessible, but the list of books
in my library isn't. It doesn't read any of the information about
the book, so I have to use OCR to see which book I'm focused on,
which is really annoying. I do like how Adobe Digital Editions
syncs all books I add to my library with my Adobe account, but I'm
willing to do without that if there's a more accessible
alternative. Does anyone know of one? Thanks.


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Hi,

Adobe Digital Editions 2.0 (I have installed) will read Epub items. I have now updated to version 4.5.


Optelec Protocol Converter

Ben J. Bloomgren
 

Good morning, all,

 

I was reading tonight in the what’s new page for NVDA 2018 1, when I saw something about increased support for something called the Optelec protocol converter. I have an old Alva Satellite 84, which I would love to get back up and running. I saw a thread up on GitHub referencing certain bugs or problems with it, using the Alva BC6 driver to use an Alva Satellite display. But I haven’t seen anything on what it is, how to use it or anything. How does one make use of it?

 

Ben

 


Re: NVDA w/AVG 2018

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Its not accessible any more. I noticed this when Avast took them over and screwed even the bits that worked. There was a lively debate on here a month or so back I seem to remember trying to find a third party solution that was still accessible, and apart from the Open source one which is very crude and worse than Defender/msse, nobody came up with one that I can recall.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Guy Schlosser" <guyster@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 4:57 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA w/AVG 2018


Hi all:
I am trying to use NVDA with the latest version of AVG antivirus. When I try to see the area of the screen where you change your username And password, NVDA doesn't seem to read this. All it says when you tab around the box is unknown. I have another machine which has jaws for windows on it, and JAWS can see this box with no problem. Is there anyway I can get this resolved with NVDA? Any help with this also greatly appreciated.

Thanks,


Guy


Re: NVDA with iCloud

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I seem to recall that nvda was never tested with this app. It sounds to me like as usual, apple are doing a Frank Sinatra again, I did it My Way.
Anyone know? I ask as I will have to get a smart phone soon and if its an apple cloud services might be a good move.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Guy Schlosser" <guyster@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 7:56 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA with iCloud


Hi all, I am trying to use iCloud with NVDA 2018.1 release. I am having a problem though, because when I launch the iCloud app, I can’t see any of the checkboxes, for Notes, documents, iCloud Drive, etc with NVDA. Is there a reason for this, or is there something I need to do differently? This machine is running Windows 7, and I suspect that the iCloud Drive check box is not checked. When I look in the windows explorer at the iCloud Drive folder, it is empty. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,

Guy


Re: NVDA Bug in Websites

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Given the fact that hotkeys and key interception are a common thing in access software, one might have expected a well known company to warn about this aspect of their software.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dzhovani" <dzhovani.chemishanov@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 4:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Bug in Websites


Thanks, you are right. It turns out that Sophus has decided to include me in their premium version for a free trial. The link to opt out quotes:
If you prefer NOT to experience the free 30-day trial of Sophos Home Premium, please click here.
Dzhovani


Re: Win 10 mail app and forcing it to use Edge?

The Gamages
 

Hello Rosemarie and others who answered my message,

I see that Narrator can be used to access my files etc, but what I can't
do is get to the edit area of Word for instance, I just go round in
circles, from the title and then to the system controls, I know about
scan mode but this doesn't help at all, without scan mode I just get the
key I press read out, it just doesn't work like a normal screen reader,
NVDA for instance, will land me on the edit area in Word immediately and
I get to other stuff if I choose to do so. Narrator is alright for
emergencies, can anyone tell me how to get to the edit area in Word so
that I can type into it? or even read it? after all Word is a microsoft
product, so it should work well.
Simple instructions would be much appreciated.
Thank you all.



Best Regards, Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 3:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Win 10 mail app and forcing it to use Edge?

Hi, Jim,

I think narrator is great when you get into a jam or if you don't have a
screen reader, you can use narrator to install a screen reader like
NVDA.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of The
Gamages via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 12:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Win 10 mail app and forcing it to use Edge?

Hello,
Brian's comment about Narrator is relevant to this thread, has anyone
tried narrator lately? it's a nightmare as far as I am concerned, I just
go round and round in circles, long may NVDA continue to prosper.
Incedentally, Freedom scientific are proposing doing away with 40 minute
mode for Jaws, in favour of a 30 day trial, after which you will need to
pay for the program, I heard that on one of their Webinars, or whatever
they call them, when Eric Damery was talking to Jonathon Mosen, Sorry
for the off topic comment, but I know many people use Jaws in 40 minute
mode as an extra reference source.



Best Regards, Jim.
-----Original Message-----
From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 9:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Win 10 mail app and forcing it to use Edge?

Probably, ofcause there will be ways round it, I will for example never
use their email program as long as thunderbird continues to be fine with
its esr version till its not.




On 21/03/2018 10:29 p.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
There are rumours circulating that Microsoft intends to hard code the
choice of browser that there mail app opens when you click on a link
in an email. This of course will be Edge.
So is this more nanny mode assuming people are not able to protect
themselves, or an attempt to get Edge to be the logical choice for
home users.
Can you imagine what might happen if they suddenly decided anyone
using a screenreader would have to use Narrator and turned the others
off?

Weird if true.
Brian

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Re: Accessible EPUB Reader

Arno Schuh
 

If not limited to read the epub at your computer - some DAISY players can do the job as well; i. e. I have a PTP1 that goes down until spelling single letters.

Gretings

Arno


NVDA w/AVG 2018

Guy Schlosser
 

Hi all:
I am trying to use NVDA with the latest version of AVG antivirus. When I try to see the area of the screen where you change your username And password, NVDA doesn't seem to read this. All it says when you tab around the box is unknown. I have another machine which has jaws for windows on it, and JAWS can see this box with no problem. Is there anyway I can get this resolved with NVDA? Any help with this also greatly appreciated.

Thanks,


Guy


Re: Choosing a Laptop

 

I agree, for the most part I kill mcafee, and office, and leave the rest alone, unless ofcause I have the rest of it somewhere.

Saying it if I can backup the setup files to my secondary drive and then reset the machine, then it probably doesn't matter that much.

I can easily install what I want later but I wouldn't charge in either I have never needed to kill everything.

On 23/03/2018 5:26 p.m., Gene wrote:
From the little I know on this subject, you shouldn't use the reset tool without knowing if there are proprietary utilities that the manufacturer has made necessary to perform certain computer-related tasks. By reset tool, I assume you mean the tool that resets Windows to a new state and removes everything that has been installed or modified. I know very little about this but as I under stand it, some computer manufactures use their own proprietary utilities for some things and Windows utilities can't be used. I'm talking about power settings and other things, but I don't know what they are. I'm not talking about things like defrag. I'm saying to learn about the computer before you indiscriminately do things like this.
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 3:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop


Well some of that bloat may be usefull I don't buy into the get rid of
everything approach all the time.




On 23/03/2018 1:44 a.m., Josh Kennedy wrote:
My son's lenovo with AMD a12 processor works great. it had some bloatware, but windows10 has a special reset tool that gets rid of all bloatware and unneeded junk. I used it, and his laptop works great ever since. He plays console games like grand theft auto five on it, and other console type games. got it brand new off amazon for around $360. Both our AMD laptops never get hot, they run nice and cool like cell phones. Even when he plays power hungry games his fan may only go up to half of its full speed, if that.


Re: Choosing a Laptop

 

Well my next system will be an amd a10 or 12 unit.

Fact is internal intel cards just are not that good, internal amd ones are at least 2 gb dedicated graphics.

That will run screen readers nice, that should run some hybred games nicely and a few other things.

Some of the cpus even have 4gb internal cards in them.

On 23/03/2018 2:21 p.m., Tyler Wood wrote:
I think hp and acer both have laptops with AMD ryzen processors in them now.
I have heard good things about them and they have similar performance. They're also what has forced intel into making quad core processors in the ultra low voltage family. I just hope they start showing up in more expensive laptops because AMD is really stepping up their game.

On 22-Mar-2018 8:14 PM, enes sarıbaş wrote:

its highly doubtful that you can get a top of the line for that cheap. It is iether an outdated processor, used/reused and replaced laptop, or something else. Quality machines are generally around at least 700-800 dollars. Personally I wouldn't go below that.


On 3/22/2018 3:41 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
What's wrong with AMD processors and parts? Nobody on here has mentioned AMD. My son has a top of the line gaming laptop with AMD parts, its brand new. and guess what, we got it off amazon for around $360. in the united states. My laptop with AMD a6 processor was on sale at the time for $250 on amazon . it has a dvd burner and everything. I strongly recommend laptops with AMD from amazon.