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Re: Tony's addons - updates

Rui Fontes
 

They have different characters, but both group of characters are in the same UNICODE group...


So, like among the latin languages, it is not possible, without lots of processement, to switch from chinese to japanese and vice-versa...


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 02:43 de 28/05/2020, William Wong escreveu:

No, they have different character. As far as I know.


Tony Malykh 於 27/5/2020 22:32 寫道:
Language map can be edited in preferences. Do Chinese and Japanese use the same Unicode character set or different ones? If they use the same set, autmatic switching won't be possible.

On 5/27/2020 3:21 AM, William Wong wrote:
Hi,

Thanks for the list of addons.

Regarding "tonysEnhancements"

how to edit Edit language map

for instance, If I want to configure Traditional Chinese and Japanese, how should I correct the map?

Thanks.







Re: speech history

 

Something quirky is going on with this add-on.  I have NVDA 2020.1 and a few minutes ago downloaded the Speech History Add-On (speechHistory-2020.2) from the official repository using Add-On Manager.

When I tried to install it, I got an install failed message, yet when I went back to Add-On Manager it's showing in the list.

I exited NVDA and promptly restarted it again, and at the moment it's hanging in Add-On Manager in the Choose Add-On Package Dialog, and has been in that state for approximately 5 minutes.  I'm now killing NVDA with Task Manager.

It seems to have restarted again fully functioning, but I'm not yet sure that Speech History is fully functioning.  It does show as installed and enabled in the Add-Ons Manager, even after the failure to install message.

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Re: speech history

Josef Krasny
 

Hi,

in ad-on manager I see Speech History is installed and will be enabled after NVDA restart. But after NVDA restart is it not enabled. I have NVDA 2020.1. Something is wrong...

Josef

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Re: Auto language switching in nvda

Tony Malykh
 

Did you enable it in settings? Did you configure your language that you would like to switch to?

On 5/28/2020 12:07 PM, farhan israk wrote:

Though I have installed tony enhancement addon, nvda doesn't change language automatically. I downloaded it from nvda addon website yesterday.


NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all

Chris Mullins
 

Hi Isak

The links below indicate that there were some concerns about 3rd party software running on ARM devices back in 2017 but I think many have been resolved since.  The fact that the Bluetooth keyboard worked OK points to the issue being with the keyboard on the device itself and as another list member said, I think you need to take up the issue with Lenovo, as the device is inaccessible to you.  There maybe BIOS settings that can be configured so Lenovo Customer services would be a first port of call.

 

https://www.nv access.org/post/why-cant-nvda-run-on-windows-10-mobile-and-windows-10-s/

 

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/pull/7508

 

Cheers

Chris     

 

From: Chris Mullins
Sent: 28 May 2020 19:28
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: RE: [nvda] NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all

 

                                Isak

Is this device using an ARM processor?   

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: Isak Sand
Sent: 28 May 2020 18:15
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all

 

A little update.
I just tested with a Bluetooth keyboard, and the issue was not present.
It's not a solution for me to use a separate Bluetooth keyboard, since the keyboard that comes with it is quite good and works as a case for the tablet, but maybe it can help track down the problem.
Just to make the thing a bit more clear, the keyboard that comes with the device is attached to the tablet part using some own docking system; I've not seen such a system before. In the Device Manager it shows just up as a HID Keyboard Device. I have tried updating the drivers through the Device Manager with no luck.

 

 


Re: NVDA and add-ons folder compatible with the new version

junior <tadeu.junior.tecladista@...>
 

Thank you!

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Em 28/05/2020 18:17, hurrikennyandopo ... escreveu:

Hi


The following link to my drop box account may help. some of these are not found on the official web page.


The link to it is https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zdqgy3gwmsfd1q9/AAAR6zXjPqrY-13JzxPJCUdFa?dl=0


I do also have a drop box one for earlier add ons as well if people want them.


Those drop box links come off my nvda add ons page at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/NVDA%20addons.html


The page has other information and also points to other nvda tutorials etc.


Gene nz


On 29/05/2020 8:56 am, junior wrote:
Hail guys, good afternoon, everything good with everyone?

Guys, in order to have saved here for perhaps a future re installation, ETC, could anyone, if they have, make available a folder with all add-ons compatible with the new version of nvda?

I will be immensely grateful to anyone who makes this available to me.


Re: NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all

Luke Davis
 

Sticky keys might work for you (hit shift five times to get started).
Not ideal, but then you could hit insert or capslock (assuming they work with sticky keys), then the NVDA key in question.

You should look at the CMOS for keyboard options, as someone suggested, but it sounds like that laptop has very limited multi-press keyboard support.
Those are not "normal" modifier keys (like alt, shift, and control are), and it seems as if the keyboard is not capable of providing scancodes for modifiers that it doesn't know are modifiers.
That suggests more "intelligence" on the part of the keyboard controller than is usually there in a simple keyboard.
You may want to contact the manufacturer, and make an ADA based complaint that they are producing an inaccessible laptop. Unlikely you'll get anywhere, but this may be solvable in firmware.

Luke

On Thu, 28 May 2020, Isak Sand wrote:

Hello all,
I just bought a Lenovo Miix 630 laptop: a little, neat thing to travel with.
My problem is that the NVDA modifier keys do not work. The computer seems to have both Caps Lock and Insert available, because when I finally was able to
access the keyboard help using the Miix computer remotely from another computer, it says "NVDA" when I press Caps Lock or Insert, and also Caps Lock comes
on when I press it twice, so it seems that everything should work. But still, if I press, say Caps Lock + B, it acts like I would have pressed only the
letter B.
This is not only an NVDA issue; exactly the same thing happens with Narrator. I cannot use any narrator commands that involve the Caps Lock key.
Another pain is that I haven't been able to reverse the function keys, so I have to press. for example, Alt+FN+F4 to get out from an application.
I do not know whether these two problems are somehow related.
Especially the fact that I don't have a NVDA modifier key makes the thing almost unusable.
Has anyone seen something like this and maybe been able to solve the problem? _._,_._,_


Re: NVDA and add-ons folder compatible with the new version

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


The following link to my drop box account may help. some of these are not found on the official web page.


The link to it is https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zdqgy3gwmsfd1q9/AAAR6zXjPqrY-13JzxPJCUdFa?dl=0


I do also have a drop box one for earlier add ons as well if people want them.


Those drop box links come off my nvda add ons page at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/NVDA%20addons.html


The page has other information and also points to other nvda tutorials etc.


Gene nz

On 29/05/2020 8:56 am, junior wrote:
Hail guys, good afternoon, everything good with everyone?

Guys, in order to have saved here for perhaps a future re installation, ETC, could anyone, if they have, make available a folder with all add-ons compatible with the new version of nvda?

I will be immensely grateful to anyone who makes this available to me.


NVDA and add-ons folder compatible with the new version

junior <tadeu.junior.tecladista@...>
 

Hail guys, good afternoon, everything good with everyone?

Guys, in order to have saved here for perhaps a future re installation, ETC, could anyone, if they have, make available a folder with all add-ons compatible with the new version of nvda?

I will be immensely grateful to anyone who makes this available to me.

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Telegram:
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Re: NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all

 

Hello,

Yes, it has an ARM-based Qualcomm SnapDragon 635.


Auto language switching in nvda

farhan israk
 

Though I have installed tony enhancement addon, nvda doesn't change language automatically. I downloaded it from nvda addon website yesterday.


Re: NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all

Chris Mullins
 

                                Isak

Is this device using an ARM processor?   

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: Isak Sand
Sent: 28 May 2020 18:15
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all

 

A little update.
I just tested with a Bluetooth keyboard, and the issue was not present.
It's not a solution for me to use a separate Bluetooth keyboard, since the keyboard that comes with it is quite good and works as a case for the tablet, but maybe it can help track down the problem.
Just to make the thing a bit more clear, the keyboard that comes with the device is attached to the tablet part using some own docking system; I've not seen such a system before. In the Device Manager it shows just up as a HID Keyboard Device. I have tried updating the drivers through the Device Manager with no luck.

 


Re: NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all

 

A little update.
I just tested with a Bluetooth keyboard, and the issue was not present.
It's not a solution for me to use a separate Bluetooth keyboard, since the keyboard that comes with it is quite good and works as a case for the tablet, but maybe it can help track down the problem.
Just to make the thing a bit more clear, the keyboard that comes with the device is attached to the tablet part using some own docking system; I've not seen such a system before. In the Device Manager it shows just up as a HID Keyboard Device. I have tried updating the drivers through the Device Manager with no luck.


Re: How to make backup nvda?

Gene
 

I'm not saying you can't save settings aside from making a portable version, but I would think a portable version would be the easiest way.  Andd any add-ons are also kept in the portable version and will be available if you install NVDA using the portable version.  Your speech dictionaries will also be preserved. 
 
As far as I know the portable version and installing from the portable version preserves everything or just about everything.
 
You can save the portable version anywhere, on a thumb drive, an external hard drive, anywhere, even someplace like Dropbox.  I make a new portable version now and then as a backup for anything I've changed over time. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Ján Kulik
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to make backup nvda?

Well, I also thought about making the whole portable version of NVDA, I meant that I would choose a folder where my user settings would be copied without creating the whole portable version of NVDA.

Because I don't want to have a problem installing NVDA


Re: How to make backup nvda?

Ján Kulik
 

Well, I also thought about making the whole portable version of NVDA, I meant that I would choose a folder where my user settings would be copied without creating the whole portable version of NVDA.

Because I don't want to have a problem installing NVDA


Re: How to make backup nvda?

 

hello.
you can copy your nvda profile from app data, (i did not test this myself),
and you can create portable copy from your installed version of nvda,
and after your work,
open nvda.exe in your portable version,
then install nvda on your system using tools select install nvda
and be sure to check, copy portable configurations.

On 5/28/20, Ján Kulik <@janulik2222> wrote:
Hello

I'm going to do something with my computer, but before that I want to back
up my NVDA settings. How do I do that? what should i copy? Or should I
create an NVDA profile?

I also have add-ons installed there, and if I installed NVDA on my computer,
I would import my saved settings with add-ons as well.



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Re: NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all

 

Hello,

I will try with another keyboard.

Unfortunately, the Insert key does exactly the same thing as Caps Lock, and FN + Insert is not to any help either.

I have installed SharpKey, and I tried to re-map Caps Lock to Numpad 0, but it did not work.

And then I played around a bit with Input Gestures, and I tried to, just as a test, put Print Screen + S to toggle the speech on and off, but no luck there either; the place where you typed in the key command just took the Print Screen. Maybe this is by design.


Re: NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all

Gene
 

It sounds to me as though the keyboard may generate a code that screen-readers don't work with.  Since the key does what it is supposed to do when not used as an NVDA key, the explanation appears to be that the code used by the key is not one that NVDA looks for, even though the computer itself responds to it.  You may want to try another keyboard and decide what you want to do when you see the results.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Isak Sand
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all

All,

Thanks so much for your input!
First of all, this is not an NVDA-specific issue. Caps Lock does not work with Narrator either.

When I configure NVDA so that Caps Lock is not used as an NVDA key, Caps Lock works just as it is supposed to do: when Caps Lock is pressed once, NVDA tells that caps Lock is on and all typed letters are capitalized.

I have not yet tested to have another keyboard connected to the machine itself; I just forced it into Keyboard Help using the Remote Access addon. I set up a connection between my older Lenovo and that new Lenovo Miix and pressed Insert+1, just to be able to explore the keyboard properly.


How to make backup nvda?

Ján Kulik
 

Hello


I'm going to do something with my computer, but before that I want to back up my NVDA settings. How do I do that? what should i copy? Or should I create an NVDA profile?

I also have add-ons installed there, and if I installed NVDA on my computer, I would import my saved settings with add-ons as well.


Re: NVDA on a Lenovo Miix 630 - no modifier key at all

Tyler Spivey
 

It sounds like the keyboard on that machine just doesn't like caps lock
pressed with another key. That's rather unfortunate if it's a hardware
problem, and not some software doing it.
Do you have another keyboard you can plug in and test? That might not
rule out software completely, though.

Here are some things you can do to get a modifier:

1. Find your insert key. It might be fn+m for numpad insert, or some
other key, and use that.
2. If you don't have one or that's inconvenient, then you can use
SharpKeys to remap something to insert.
Right alt might work, if you have one. You'll want to find a key that's
easy to hit, and you can't use it for its normal function after you
remap it.
3. Write an addon to remap some other key as your NVDA modifier. This is
similar to the SharpKeys solution, except you could get the original
functionality of that key by hitting it twice.

You can also use the Input gestures dialog to remap NVDA functions to
other key combinations which don't need the NVDA modifier.

On 5/28/2020 7:12 AM, Isak Sand wrote:
All,

Thanks so much for your input!
First of all, this is not an NVDA-specific issue. Caps Lock does not
work with Narrator either.

When I configure NVDA so that Caps Lock is not used as an NVDA key, Caps
Lock works just as it is supposed to do: when Caps Lock is pressed once,
NVDA tells that caps Lock is on and all typed letters are capitalized.

I have not yet tested to have another keyboard connected to the machine
itself; I just forced it into Keyboard Help using the Remote Access
addon. I set up a connection between my older Lenovo and that new Lenovo
Miix and pressed Insert+1, just to be able to explore the keyboard
properly.