Date   

Re: NVDA list accessibility

bhanu computer
 

but leave about list normally is there a way to move to end of line?


Problem with Blogger

Annukka
 

Hi. I started new blog. Can someone tell me how to add link to the text? Blogger I find add link button and then there is place to write or get url from clipboard, but how can I set words? I don’t want show long url I want one or more word where I tell where url is guiding. Sorry for my bad English. So, if I want to link to my text album on Spotify I want that link is called name by album not just long url and before url the name. 

Best regards 

Annukka 


Re: NVDA list accessibility

Jonathan COHN
 

I believe you want this option in Browse mode settings to be changed:
Screen Layout. It will read links on a separate line from the surrounding content.


Monthly Group Rules Reminder for the NVDA Group (nvda@nvda.groups.io)

nvda@nvda.groups.io Group Moderators <nvda@...>
 

NVDA Group Description:  NonVisual Desktop Access (NVDA) is screen reader software.  The central purpose of this group is discussing how to use NVDA, either configuring NVDA's settings or familiarizing oneself with its modes and commands.  Discussions about which programs are accessible using NVDA, NVDA add-ons, NVDA tutorials and documentation, and configuring synthesizers or Braille displays for use with NVDA are also permitted.

What follows is the NVDA Group Monthly Reminder Notice, which is meant to reacquaint members with the NVDA Group Rules.

Although the following rule has almost never needed to be applied, the Group Owner and Moderators reserve the right to block, edit, or remove any message at any time at our sole discretion.  Messages that have content that violates the Groups.io Terms of Service are not permitted, are subject to immediate removal, and the member posting same to be placed on moderated status or banned, at the sole discretion of the Group Owner or Moderator. 

It is presumed that the majority of members will be using NVDA, and possibly other screen readers, as part of their daily routine.  This being the case, before you post a message you have to consider whether the question you are about to ask is actually about NVDA itself, or about the program you’re using it to access.  Questions of the form, How do I use . . . with NVDA?, are very seldom about NVDA, but are almost always about the program being accessed with NVDA.

The NVDA Group has a Chat Subgroup (see: https://nvda.groups.io/g/chat, Group Email Addresses section) that has as its purpose the asking of virtually any “off-topic” question about anything you can think of, including just socializing.  It should be used for exactly that purpose. The Chat Subgroup has generally had technically focused topics related to using features of the programs that one is using NVDA to access or about other programs that have proven helpful.  Only those who are already members of the NVDA Group can subscribe to the Chat Subgroup.  

Before choosing where to post, please ask yourself the question, “Is what I’m about to ask or offer directly related to controlling or using NVDA, or whether a specific program is accessible with NVDA?”  If that can be answered, “Yes,” then post to the NVDA Group, and if the answer is, “No,” then the topic belongs in the NVDA Chat Subgroup.

In order to make your experience, and those of all other members, as pleasant as they can be, please follow these practices:

1.  Use threaded or conversation view in your e-mail client program or webmail and reading through the entirety of a topic before replying.  It gets you completely up to speed and avoids a lot of repetition.  If you choose not to use threaded/conversation view, please take the time to read through all messages from the group that are in your inbox prior to adding any reply to the group.  It’s the only way you can be sure you’re up to speed on any topic when not using threaded/conversation view.

2.  Reading through all new topics before replying, as topics have a tendency to get split upon occasion and often an answer ends up being in a separate topic.

3. If you have reason to believe your question has likely been asked and answered in the past please search the Group Archive first before asking it again.  Step-by-Step instructions for searching the group archive using the Groups.io search or a web search engine of your choosing: Searching_the_NVDA_Group_Archive.docx.  Please consider using a web search first for questions that have almost certainly been asked frequently and for which myriad answers, often in the form of tutorials, already exist.

4.  Think very carefully about the title you are going to give any topic you post.  The topic is the first (and, sometimes, only) thing a member sees and that may be how they decide if they’re going to look further.   Generic titles, such as “Help Me!,” are not helpful because they give no idea about what.  Compare that to something like, “NVDA not reading Excel cell contents,” or, “NVDA setting for pronouncing numbers,” where the exact issue where help is needed is front and center.   Even something like, “Need help with the following . . .,” lets the reader know that you are going to present a list of issues.

5.  Please avoid, “What is the best . . .?,” topics, because what qualifies as “best” is entirely subjective.   Topics of this sort are also always chat topics.  If you know you have specific needs then asking, “What {insert program type here} has the following features . . .,” is much more descriptive.   If you want to know what programs people like for a specific task, asking, “What’s your favorite . . . and why?,” is far more likely to get you the details you want to have.  Notice that none of the above questions ask about whether a program is accessible with NVDA.  If you’re asking something like, “Which {insert program class here} is accessible with NVDA?,” then it’s a main group topic.

6.  Any topic that is not about using NVDA to accomplish a task, or how to control NVDA, belongs in the chat subgroup, not the main group.  All questions about how to use the specific features of a program that you’re using NVDA to access, but not about NVDA itself, belong in the chat subgroup.

 

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Each of you has the ability to mute topics that don’t interest you, get digests instead of individual messages, or to set up topic preview for yourself via the Following Only and First Messages Also features used in conjunction with each other.  It is up to you to use those to manage your e-mail as you see fit.  It’s almost certain that there will be plenty of topics on the chat subgroup that will not be of the least interest to you as an individual. Setting up topic preview lets you pick and choose what you want to continue to see, and this function can be used on any Groups.io group.

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Re: Release of add-on applicationDictionary

Akshaya Choudhary
 

 @Ralf and @Rui, thank you both of you for yoour explanations. It is a very useful app!
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Regards,
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Re: Windows OneCore voices

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

Further to the OneCore voice issue, I have checked in Narrator and established that the deep male voice is David and the 3 other named voices, Hazel, Susan and George are all British  English voices.  The settings for auto language and dialect switching are both checked.  It appears that NVDA will use US English voices but not the British ones.  Is there a setting somewhere that I have missed?

 

Cheers

Chris  

 

From: Chris Mullins via groups.io
Sent: 01 May 2020 11:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows OneCore voices

 

 

                Hi Quintin

This is a confused situation.  My original message was based on the incorrect post re the latest NVDA RC.  I followed the link in that post to the “What’s New” details in 2019.2 and read about the OneCore rate boost feature being added, mistakenly thinking I was using 2019.1.  Immediately After seeing other list members messages about the post, I re-sent the message after correcting my mistake but you are responding to my original incorrect post.

 

The OneCore Rate Boost reference no longer applies but the issue regarding the OneCore voices for Hazel, Susan, David and George all being the same deep male voice remains and I wondered if it was an issue that was known about.    

 

Apologies for the confusion

 

Chris

 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: 01 May 2020 03:20
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows OneCore voices

 

Do you mean you're using NVDA 2019.2.1?  We introduced Rate Boost in NVDA 2019.2 for Windows OneCore - it's been in since NVDA 2011.2.

 

We haven't done anything new with it since 2019.2.

 

In any case, I'm glad you're appreciating it!

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 5:54 AM Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...> wrote:

Hi

I was a bit puzzled after reading that OneCore voices would have the rate boost feature added in the forthcoming new release of NVDA.  I’m using OneCore with 2019.1 and it already has rate boost.  Whilst checking out the different OneCore voices in the synth ring, I noticed that Mark, and Zira voices seem to work OKK but Hazel, Susan, David and George all had the same deep male voice.  This was the same in the Voice dialog after NVDA+Control+v was pressed.  Is this a known problem?

 

Cheers

Chris       

 


 

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Training and Support Manager

 

 

 


Re: Windows OneCore voices

Chris Mullins
 

 

                Hi Quintin

This is a confused situation.  My original message was based on the incorrect post re the latest NVDA RC.  I followed the link in that post to the “What’s New” details in 2019.2 and read about the OneCore rate boost feature being added, mistakenly thinking I was using 2019.1.  Immediately After seeing other list members messages about the post, I re-sent the message after correcting my mistake but you are responding to my original incorrect post.

 

The OneCore Rate Boost reference no longer applies but the issue regarding the OneCore voices for Hazel, Susan, David and George all being the same deep male voice remains and I wondered if it was an issue that was known about.    

 

Apologies for the confusion

 

Chris

 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: 01 May 2020 03:20
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows OneCore voices

 

Do you mean you're using NVDA 2019.2.1?  We introduced Rate Boost in NVDA 2019.2 for Windows OneCore - it's been in since NVDA 2011.2.

 

We haven't done anything new with it since 2019.2.

 

In any case, I'm glad you're appreciating it!

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 5:54 AM Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...> wrote:

Hi

I was a bit puzzled after reading that OneCore voices would have the rate boost feature added in the forthcoming new release of NVDA.  I’m using OneCore with 2019.1 and it already has rate boost.  Whilst checking out the different OneCore voices in the synth ring, I noticed that Mark, and Zira voices seem to work OKK but Hazel, Susan, David and George all had the same deep male voice.  This was the same in the Voice dialog after NVDA+Control+v was pressed.  Is this a known problem?

 

Cheers

Chris       

 


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

 


Re: NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader

Gene
 

To subscribe to the chat list, send a bllank message to:
chat+subscribe@nvda.groups.io

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Arlene
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2020 12:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader



is a good topic but it should be taken to the chat list. Good idea for that topic to be there. What’s the chat address. I’ll join it.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: Gene
Sent: April 30, 2020 10:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader





I can discuss how to record a file while it plays, which people may want to

do since they can't currently use Pontes Media Downloader. But that

discussion should be on the chat list. If it continues there, those

interested may want to join since I won't discuss the matter further here.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 11:34 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader



I saw a message from someone saying that the program works for them.

Perhaps the block isn't effective in some locations for some reason. But I

suspect that it is in effect for a lot of people in different areas. I'm

not a moderator but it would be useful if we had some idea of whether a lot

of people are having problems. But that should be done on the chat list,

not this one.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene via groups.io

Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 11:19 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader



You don't have to upgrade. It will do no good. Youtube has blocked

downloaders. Off and on, it makes changes and designers of downloaders have

to work around the problem. It’s a cat and mouse game. Wait until you see

information that a new download engine is available then download it. You

will see an item in the Pontes menu for upgrade download engine or similar

wording. Or you can try upgrading every day or two. If you can download,

there is a new upgrade.



I much prefer the old version of Pontes and I'm waiting for a new engine. I

tried the newer version just in case and it won't download anything either.



In the version you are running, open the menus with alt. Right arrow to

options. Down arrow to update download engine and press enter.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

-----Original Message-----

From: Arlene

Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 6:14 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader







Hi, I have pontes 2 something How do I upgrade to 3? When I use it, it doesn’t

convert the files. It says completely done when I go to the folder where the

files go it’s not there. Why doesn’t it convert anymore? I told friends that

youtube might be cracking down on people who use any converter to convert

files and they believed it. I’ve been using pontes for 2 or 3 years. It’s

worked no problem. Now it doesn’t convert the files. If I need to upgrade do

I have to go to the site to get it?







Sent from Mail for Windows 10











From: Shaun Everiss

Sent: April 30, 2020 3:05 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader











There is an option to delete all thiles control shift and backspace.



its in the menus to.



You should select the source you want before you convert to whatever you

want, I usually select the lowest source audio as it will play fine no

matter what it is.



It can crash with some settings but its ok.















On 1/05/2020 2:16 am, Fresh Start wrote:







Greetings all,



I am not sure who recommended Pontes Media downloader. But hit is been

awesome. however, I have been having a little issue lately. I am using

version 3.0.



1. How do I get Pontes to empty the table of past url’s?



2. 2. Sometimes when pasting the url from youtube into the url field

for downloading, then tabbing to the download button and pressing enter on

it, the file doesn’t always download.



3. I go back to check the url field and find it is empty. But one

more shift tab back there is a list of past download url’s.



4. I tried copying and pasting the shortcut listing with no luck. NVDA

will read me the first column but not what that keystroke does in the second

column.



5. How can I get the complete table to copy to the clipboard to paste

into Word and save.



6.



7. I have had great success with Pontes. But lately, It takes a few

times getting the file. I am went through the program options and think all

is set right. I genuine thank anyone for some directions. I send a song

out with each of my daily devotions and rely heavily on the awesome program…

Blessings in any of







Subscribe to the Fresh Start Daily Devotion by sending a message to the

e-mail address shown below with subscribe in the subject field.



dan@...







Unsubscribe from the Fresh Start Daily Devotion by sending a message to the

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understanding. In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He will make your

paths straight.”



(Proverbs 3:5,6 NIV)


Re: Reading commands that work (for Bryan)

Gene
 

I may have sent a blank message to the list.  Here is what I intended to say.
 
Regarding the list of commands, there are a great many.  When you are using the commands list, it is very important and useful to know that you can move from section to section with the move by header command, the letter h.  so, for example, if you want to see the browse mode commands, moving through the headers will take you to the browse mode section.  The same for other sections.  Knowing this should help you find commands much more quickly since you won't know in most cases, exactly what wording to search for to find a specific command.
 
Gene


Re: NVDA list accessibility

bhanu computer
 

but i dont know how the jaws moves it to the end of the line. is it posible to move to the end of line automaticly with NVDA?


Re: NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader

Arlene
 

I’ll wait for a new engine. If nothing. I’ll just uninstall it and use an online downloader. Like I said I don’t do it often. Once I do sometimes I go crazy.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: April 30, 2020 9:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader

 

You don't have to upgrade.  It will do no good.  Youtube has blocked

downloaders.  Off and on, it makes changes and designers of downloaders have

to work around the problem.  It’s a cat and mouse game.  Wait until you see

information that a new download engine is available then download it.  You

will see an item in the Pontes menu for upgrade download engine or similar

wording.  Or you can try upgrading every day or two.  If you can download,

there is a new upgrade.

 

I much prefer the old version of Pontes and I'm waiting for a new engine.  I

tried the newer version just in case and it won't download anything either.

 

In the version you are running, open the menus with alt.  Right arrow to

options.  Down arrow to update download engine and press enter.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

-----Original Message-----

From: Arlene

Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 6:14 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader

 

 

 

Hi, I have pontes 2 something How do I upgrade to 3? When I use it, it doesn’t

convert the files. It says completely done when I go to the folder where the

files go it’s not there. Why doesn’t it convert anymore? I told friends that

youtube  might be cracking down on people who use any converter to convert

files and they believed it.  I’ve been using pontes for 2 or 3 years. It’s

worked no problem. Now it doesn’t convert the files. If I need to upgrade do

I have to go to the site to get it?

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

 

 

From: Shaun Everiss

Sent: April 30, 2020 3:05 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader

 

 

 

 

 

There is an option to delete all thiles control shift and backspace.

 

its in the menus to.

 

You should select the source you want before you convert to whatever you

want, I usually select the lowest source audio as it will play fine no

matter what it is.

 

It can crash with some settings but its ok.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 1/05/2020 2:16 am, Fresh Start wrote:

 

 

 

Greetings all,

 

I am not sure who recommended Pontes Media downloader.  But hit is been

awesome.  however, I have been having a little issue lately.  I am using

version 3.0.

 

1.        How do I get Pontes to empty the table of past url’s?

 

2.       2.  Sometimes when pasting the url from youtube into the url field

for downloading, then tabbing to the download button and pressing enter on

it, the file doesn’t always download.

 

3.       I go back to check the url field and find it is empty.  But one

more shift tab back there is a list of past download url’s.

 

4.       I tried copying and pasting the shortcut listing with no luck. NVDA

will read me the first column but not what that keystroke does in the second

column.

 

5.       How can I get the complete table to copy to the clipboard to paste

into Word and save.

 

6.

 

7.       I have had great success with Pontes.  But lately, It takes a few

times getting the file.  I am went through the program options and think all

is set right.  I genuine thank anyone for some directions.  I send a song

out with each of my daily devotions and rely heavily on the awesome program…

Blessings in any of

 

 

 

Subscribe to the Fresh Start Daily Devotion by sending a message to the

e-mail address shown below with subscribe in the subject field.

 

dan@...

 

 

 

Unsubscribe from the Fresh Start Daily Devotion by sending a message to the

e-mail address shown below with unsubscribe in the subject field.

 

dan@...

 

“Trust in the LORD with all your heart And do not lean on your own

understanding.  In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He will make your

paths straight.”

 

(Proverbs 3:5,6 NIV)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader

Arlene
 

If they don’t update it. Most people wil uninstall it.  I barely use it and when I do. I’ll go crazy and get all the clips I want then I quit. When you do install it. You are told  that it’s for your use only. I feel bad for those who download like crazy using ponts.  Then it doesn’t work. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Ron Canazzi
Sent: April 30, 2020 10:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader

 

Yes, I also am having loads of trouble with Pontes now. They better update it or else it will be useless.

On 4/30/2020 11:41 PM, Arlene wrote:

I did that and updated the java and still no dice.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: George McCoy
Sent: April 30, 2020 8:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader

 

Arlene,

 

You don't necessarily have to upgrade.  Try updating the download engine first.

Open Pontes Media Downloader.

press alt plus o to enter the options menu.

Down arrow once to update download engine and press enter.

 

George

On 4/30/2020 6:14 PM, Arlene wrote:

Hi, I have pontes 2 something How do I upgrade to 3? When I use it, it doesn’t convert the files. It says completely done when I go to the folder where the files go it’s not there. Why doesn’t it convert anymore? I told friends that youtube  might be cracking down on people who use any converter to convert files and they believed it.  I’ve been using pontes for 2 or 3 years. It’s worked no problem. Now it doesn’t convert the files. If I need to upgrade do I have to go to the site to get it?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: April 30, 2020 3:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader

 

There is an option to delete all thiles control shift and backspace.

its in the menus to.

You should select the source you want before you convert to whatever you want, I usually select the lowest source audio as it will play fine no matter what it is.

It can crash with some settings but its ok.

 

 

On 1/05/2020 2:16 am, Fresh Start wrote:

Greetings all,

I am not sure who recommended Pontes Media downloader.  But hit is been awesome.  however, I have been having a little issue lately.  I am using version 3.0.

1.        How do I get Pontes to empty the table of past url’s?

2.       2.  Sometimes when pasting the url from youtube into the url field for downloading, then tabbing to the download button and pressing enter on it, the file doesn’t always download.

3.       I go back to check the url field and find it is empty.  But one more shift tab back there is a list of past download url’s.

4.       I tried copying and pasting the shortcut listing with no luck. NVDA will read me the first column but not what that keystroke does in the second column.

5.       How can I get the complete table to copy to the clipboard to paste into Word and save.

6.        

7.       I have had great success with Pontes.  But lately, It takes a few times getting the file.  I am went through the program options and think all is set right.  I genuine thank anyone for some directions.  I send a song out with each of my daily devotions and rely heavily on the awesome program…  Blessings in any of

 

Subscribe to the Fresh Start Daily Devotion by sending a message to the e-mail address shown below with subscribe in the subject field.

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Re: NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader

Arlene
 

is a good topic but it should be taken to the chat list. Good idea for that topic to be there. What’s the chat address. I’ll join it.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: April 30, 2020 10:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader

 

I can discuss how to record a file while it plays, which people may want to

do since they can't currently use Pontes Media Downloader.  But that

discussion should be on the chat list.  If it continues there, those

interested may want to join since I won't discuss the matter further here.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 11:34 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader

 

I saw a message from someone saying that the program works for them.

Perhaps the block isn't effective in some locations for some reason.  But I

suspect that it is in effect for a lot of people in different areas.  I'm

not a moderator but it would be useful if we had some idea of whether a lot

of people are having problems.  But that should be done on the chat list,

not this one.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene via groups.io

Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 11:19 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader

 

You don't have to upgrade.  It will do no good.  Youtube has blocked

downloaders.  Off and on, it makes changes and designers of downloaders have

to work around the problem.  It’s a cat and mouse game.  Wait until you see

information that a new download engine is available then download it.  You

will see an item in the Pontes menu for upgrade download engine or similar

wording.  Or you can try upgrading every day or two.  If you can download,

there is a new upgrade.

 

I much prefer the old version of Pontes and I'm waiting for a new engine.  I

tried the newer version just in case and it won't download anything either.

 

In the version you are running, open the menus with alt.  Right arrow to

options.  Down arrow to update download engine and press enter.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

-----Original Message-----

From: Arlene

Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 6:14 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader

 

 

 

Hi, I have pontes 2 something How do I upgrade to 3? When I use it, it doesn’t

convert the files. It says completely done when I go to the folder where the

files go it’s not there. Why doesn’t it convert anymore? I told friends that

youtube  might be cracking down on people who use any converter to convert

files and they believed it.  I’ve been using pontes for 2 or 3 years. It’s

worked no problem. Now it doesn’t convert the files. If I need to upgrade do

I have to go to the site to get it?

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

 

 

From: Shaun Everiss

Sent: April 30, 2020 3:05 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader

 

 

 

 

 

There is an option to delete all thiles control shift and backspace.

 

its in the menus to.

 

You should select the source you want before you convert to whatever you

want, I usually select the lowest source audio as it will play fine no

matter what it is.

 

It can crash with some settings but its ok.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 1/05/2020 2:16 am, Fresh Start wrote:

 

 

 

Greetings all,

 

I am not sure who recommended Pontes Media downloader.  But hit is been

awesome.  however, I have been having a little issue lately.  I am using

version 3.0.

 

1.        How do I get Pontes to empty the table of past url’s?

 

2.       2.  Sometimes when pasting the url from youtube into the url field

for downloading, then tabbing to the download button and pressing enter on

it, the file doesn’t always download.

 

3.       I go back to check the url field and find it is empty.  But one

more shift tab back there is a list of past download url’s.

 

4.       I tried copying and pasting the shortcut listing with no luck. NVDA

will read me the first column but not what that keystroke does in the second

column.

 

5.       How can I get the complete table to copy to the clipboard to paste

into Word and save.

 

6.

 

7.       I have had great success with Pontes.  But lately, It takes a few

times getting the file.  I am went through the program options and think all

is set right.  I genuine thank anyone for some directions.  I send a song

out with each of my daily devotions and rely heavily on the awesome program…

Blessings in any of

 

 

 

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Re: NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader

Gene
 

I can discuss how to record a file while it plays, which people may want to do since they can't currently use Pontes Media Downloader. But that discussion should be on the chat list. If it continues there, those interested may want to join since I won't discuss the matter further here.

Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 11:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader

I saw a message from someone saying that the program works for them.
Perhaps the block isn't effective in some locations for some reason. But I
suspect that it is in effect for a lot of people in different areas. I'm
not a moderator but it would be useful if we had some idea of whether a lot
of people are having problems. But that should be done on the chat list,
not this one.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 11:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader

You don't have to upgrade. It will do no good. Youtube has blocked
downloaders. Off and on, it makes changes and designers of downloaders have
to work around the problem. It’s a cat and mouse game. Wait until you see
information that a new download engine is available then download it. You
will see an item in the Pontes menu for upgrade download engine or similar
wording. Or you can try upgrading every day or two. If you can download,
there is a new upgrade.

I much prefer the old version of Pontes and I'm waiting for a new engine. I
tried the newer version just in case and it won't download anything either.

In the version you are running, open the menus with alt. Right arrow to
options. Down arrow to update download engine and press enter.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
-----Original Message-----
From: Arlene
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 6:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader



Hi, I have pontes 2 something How do I upgrade to 3? When I use it, it doesn’t
convert the files. It says completely done when I go to the folder where the
files go it’s not there. Why doesn’t it convert anymore? I told friends that
youtube might be cracking down on people who use any converter to convert
files and they believed it. I’ve been using pontes for 2 or 3 years. It’s
worked no problem. Now it doesn’t convert the files. If I need to upgrade do
I have to go to the site to get it?



Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: April 30, 2020 3:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader





There is an option to delete all thiles control shift and backspace.

its in the menus to.

You should select the source you want before you convert to whatever you
want, I usually select the lowest source audio as it will play fine no
matter what it is.

It can crash with some settings but its ok.







On 1/05/2020 2:16 am, Fresh Start wrote:



Greetings all,

I am not sure who recommended Pontes Media downloader. But hit is been
awesome. however, I have been having a little issue lately. I am using
version 3.0.

1. How do I get Pontes to empty the table of past url’s?

2. 2. Sometimes when pasting the url from youtube into the url field
for downloading, then tabbing to the download button and pressing enter on
it, the file doesn’t always download.

3. I go back to check the url field and find it is empty. But one
more shift tab back there is a list of past download url’s.

4. I tried copying and pasting the shortcut listing with no luck. NVDA
will read me the first column but not what that keystroke does in the second
column.

5. How can I get the complete table to copy to the clipboard to paste
into Word and save.

6.

7. I have had great success with Pontes. But lately, It takes a few
times getting the file. I am went through the program options and think all
is set right. I genuine thank anyone for some directions. I send a song
out with each of my daily devotions and rely heavily on the awesome program…
Blessings in any of



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understanding. In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He will make your
paths straight.”

(Proverbs 3:5,6 NIV)


Re: NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader

Ron Canazzi
 

I did that and I got the message that it was version 2020.3.24.  It still doesn't work.


On 4/30/2020 11:09 PM, George McCoy wrote:

Try updating the download engine.  Pontes Media Downloader is just a gui interface to the command line interface for youtube-dl.

Open Pontes media downloader and press ctrl plus u to update the download engine.


George

On 4/30/2020 4:42 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Dan/Fresh Start,

Pontes must be updated before it works properly again.  Every now and then, Youtube grows wise to Pontes and similar programs.  They change something in the download logarithm that makes Pontes not work so well.  Sometimes this issue is caused by a JAVA update.  If JAVA causes the issue, all you need do is uninstall and reinstall Pontes--being sure to delete all associated folders.  But I already tried that and it still is having issues.  You will have to wait until Pontes developers update the program.

...And you are sending out a 'pirated song' with every daily devotion--HMMMMMM! Interesting!


On 4/30/2020 10:16 AM, Fresh Start wrote:

Greetings all,

I am not sure who recommended Pontes Media downloader.  But hit is been awesome.  however, I have been having a little issue lately.  I am using version 3.0.

1.        How do I get Pontes to empty the table of past url’s?

2.       2.  Sometimes when pasting the url from youtube into the url field for downloading, then tabbing to the download button and pressing enter on it, the file doesn’t always download.

3.       I go back to check the url field and find it is empty.  But one more shift tab back there is a list of past download url’s.

4.       I tried copying and pasting the shortcut listing with no luck. NVDA will read me the first column but not what that keystroke does in the second column.

5.       How can I get the complete table to copy to the clipboard to paste into Word and save.

6.        

7.       I have had great success with Pontes.  But lately, It takes a few times getting the file.  I am went through the program options and think all is set right.  I genuine thank anyone for some directions.  I send a song out with each of my daily devotions and rely heavily on the awesome program…  Blessings in any of

 

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(Proverbs 3:5,6 NIV)

 


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I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader

Ron Canazzi
 

Yes, I also am having loads of trouble with Pontes now. They better update it or else it will be useless.


On 4/30/2020 11:41 PM, Arlene wrote:

I did that and updated the java and still no dice.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: George McCoy
Sent: April 30, 2020 8:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader

 

Arlene,

 

You don't necessarily have to upgrade.  Try updating the download engine first.

Open Pontes Media Downloader.

press alt plus o to enter the options menu.

Down arrow once to update download engine and press enter.

 

George

On 4/30/2020 6:14 PM, Arlene wrote:

Hi, I have pontes 2 something How do I upgrade to 3? When I use it, it doesn’t convert the files. It says completely done when I go to the folder where the files go it’s not there. Why doesn’t it convert anymore? I told friends that youtube  might be cracking down on people who use any converter to convert files and they believed it.  I’ve been using pontes for 2 or 3 years. It’s worked no problem. Now it doesn’t convert the files. If I need to upgrade do I have to go to the site to get it?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: April 30, 2020 3:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader

 

There is an option to delete all thiles control shift and backspace.

its in the menus to.

You should select the source you want before you convert to whatever you want, I usually select the lowest source audio as it will play fine no matter what it is.

It can crash with some settings but its ok.

 

 

On 1/05/2020 2:16 am, Fresh Start wrote:

Greetings all,

I am not sure who recommended Pontes Media downloader.  But hit is been awesome.  however, I have been having a little issue lately.  I am using version 3.0.

1.        How do I get Pontes to empty the table of past url’s?

2.       2.  Sometimes when pasting the url from youtube into the url field for downloading, then tabbing to the download button and pressing enter on it, the file doesn’t always download.

3.       I go back to check the url field and find it is empty.  But one more shift tab back there is a list of past download url’s.

4.       I tried copying and pasting the shortcut listing with no luck. NVDA will read me the first column but not what that keystroke does in the second column.

5.       How can I get the complete table to copy to the clipboard to paste into Word and save.

6.        

7.       I have had great success with Pontes.  But lately, It takes a few times getting the file.  I am went through the program options and think all is set right.  I genuine thank anyone for some directions.  I send a song out with each of my daily devotions and rely heavily on the awesome program…  Blessings in any of

 

Subscribe to the Fresh Start Daily Devotion by sending a message to the e-mail address shown below with subscribe in the subject field.

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(Proverbs 3:5,6 NIV)

 

 

 


-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader

Gene
 

I saw a message from someone saying that the program works for them. Perhaps the block isn't effective in some locations for some reason. But I suspect that it is in effect for a lot of people in different areas. I'm not a moderator but it would be useful if we had some idea of whether a lot of people are having problems. But that should be done on the chat list, not this one.

Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 11:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader

You don't have to upgrade. It will do no good. Youtube has blocked
downloaders. Off and on, it makes changes and designers of downloaders have
to work around the problem. It’s a cat and mouse game. Wait until you see
information that a new download engine is available then download it. You
will see an item in the Pontes menu for upgrade download engine or similar
wording. Or you can try upgrading every day or two. If you can download,
there is a new upgrade.

I much prefer the old version of Pontes and I'm waiting for a new engine. I
tried the newer version just in case and it won't download anything either.

In the version you are running, open the menus with alt. Right arrow to
options. Down arrow to update download engine and press enter.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
-----Original Message-----
From: Arlene
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 6:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader



Hi, I have pontes 2 something How do I upgrade to 3? When I use it, it doesn’t
convert the files. It says completely done when I go to the folder where the
files go it’s not there. Why doesn’t it convert anymore? I told friends that
youtube might be cracking down on people who use any converter to convert
files and they believed it. I’ve been using pontes for 2 or 3 years. It’s
worked no problem. Now it doesn’t convert the files. If I need to upgrade do
I have to go to the site to get it?



Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: April 30, 2020 3:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader





There is an option to delete all thiles control shift and backspace.

its in the menus to.

You should select the source you want before you convert to whatever you
want, I usually select the lowest source audio as it will play fine no
matter what it is.

It can crash with some settings but its ok.







On 1/05/2020 2:16 am, Fresh Start wrote:



Greetings all,

I am not sure who recommended Pontes Media downloader. But hit is been
awesome. however, I have been having a little issue lately. I am using
version 3.0.

1. How do I get Pontes to empty the table of past url’s?

2. 2. Sometimes when pasting the url from youtube into the url field
for downloading, then tabbing to the download button and pressing enter on
it, the file doesn’t always download.

3. I go back to check the url field and find it is empty. But one
more shift tab back there is a list of past download url’s.

4. I tried copying and pasting the shortcut listing with no luck. NVDA
will read me the first column but not what that keystroke does in the second
column.

5. How can I get the complete table to copy to the clipboard to paste
into Word and save.

6.

7. I have had great success with Pontes. But lately, It takes a few
times getting the file. I am went through the program options and think all
is set right. I genuine thank anyone for some directions. I send a song
out with each of my daily devotions and rely heavily on the awesome program…
Blessings in any of



Subscribe to the Fresh Start Daily Devotion by sending a message to the
e-mail address shown below with subscribe in the subject field.

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understanding. In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He will make your
paths straight.”

(Proverbs 3:5,6 NIV)


Re: Windows OneCore voices

Quentin Christensen
 

Yes that's a good point, it was probably that.  I'm not sure what happened there.  Someone assured me that In-Process yesterday made reference to the same version, but when I check today, all the links are to the right page and it hasn't been edited since i put it up yesterday, so maybe we have a gremlin in the machine somewhere :)

Quentin.

On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 2:14 PM Andre Fisher <andrefisher729@...> wrote:
Hi.

The list sent a news item regarding NVDA 2019.1rc2, which had the feature listed in the What's New section. This was the same day NVDA 2020.1rc1 was released, so it must have been an error.



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader

Gene
 

You don't have to upgrade. It will do no good. Youtube has blocked downloaders. Off and on, it makes changes and designers of downloaders have to work around the problem. It’s a cat and mouse game. Wait until you see information that a new download engine is available then download it. You will see an item in the Pontes menu for upgrade download engine or similar wording. Or you can try upgrading every day or two. If you can download, there is a new upgrade.

I much prefer the old version of Pontes and I'm waiting for a new engine. I tried the newer version just in case and it won't download anything either.

In the version you are running, open the menus with alt. Right arrow to options. Down arrow to update download engine and press enter.

Gene

----- Original Message -----
-----Original Message-----
From: Arlene
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 6:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader



Hi, I have pontes 2 something How do I upgrade to 3? When I use it, it doesn’t convert the files. It says completely done when I go to the folder where the files go it’s not there. Why doesn’t it convert anymore? I told friends that youtube might be cracking down on people who use any converter to convert files and they believed it. I’ve been using pontes for 2 or 3 years. It’s worked no problem. Now it doesn’t convert the files. If I need to upgrade do I have to go to the site to get it?



Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: April 30, 2020 3:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Pontes Media Downloader





There is an option to delete all thiles control shift and backspace.

its in the menus to.

You should select the source you want before you convert to whatever you want, I usually select the lowest source audio as it will play fine no matter what it is.

It can crash with some settings but its ok.







On 1/05/2020 2:16 am, Fresh Start wrote:



Greetings all,

I am not sure who recommended Pontes Media downloader. But hit is been awesome. however, I have been having a little issue lately. I am using version 3.0.

1. How do I get Pontes to empty the table of past url’s?

2. 2. Sometimes when pasting the url from youtube into the url field for downloading, then tabbing to the download button and pressing enter on it, the file doesn’t always download.

3. I go back to check the url field and find it is empty. But one more shift tab back there is a list of past download url’s.

4. I tried copying and pasting the shortcut listing with no luck. NVDA will read me the first column but not what that keystroke does in the second column.

5. How can I get the complete table to copy to the clipboard to paste into Word and save.

6.

7. I have had great success with Pontes. But lately, It takes a few times getting the file. I am went through the program options and think all is set right. I genuine thank anyone for some directions. I send a song out with each of my daily devotions and rely heavily on the awesome program… Blessings in any of



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(Proverbs 3:5,6 NIV)


Re: Windows OneCore voices

Andre Fisher
 

Hi.

The list sent a news item regarding NVDA 2019.1rc2, which had the feature listed in the What's New section. This was the same day NVDA 2020.1rc1 was released, so it must have been an error.