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Re: notification adds

Holger Fiallo <hfiallo@...>
 

Got it. I turn both off.
 

From: Cristóbal
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 8:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] notification adds
 

Yup. opt out of as much as you can. I cant’ recall the last time or if I’ve ever had to deal with one of these.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 6:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] notification adds

 

By the way, I also have turned OFF these two toggles in that same pane:

Let Windows track app launches to improve Start and search results

Show me suggested content in the Settings app
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    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: notification adds

Holger Fiallo <hfiallo@...>
 

Where do I go to turn this off?
 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 8:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] notification adds
 
By the way, I also have turned OFF these two toggles in that same pane:

Let Windows track app launches to improve Start and search results

Show me suggested content in the Settings app
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: notification adds

Cristóbal
 

Yup. opt out of as much as you can. I cant’ recall the last time or if I’ve ever had to deal with one of these.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 6:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] notification adds

 

By the way, I also have turned OFF these two toggles in that same pane:

Let Windows track app launches to improve Start and search results

Show me suggested content in the Settings app
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: How to configure Switch Synth?

Larry Wang
 

Hi Diana,
Its documentation is quite straightforward.Switch to a slot.Configure synth settings. Press NVDA+Ctrl+Shift+V to save. 
You can also go to nvdacn.com for more Mandarin related contents.


On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 9:42 PM, Diana Kwok <dkwok2017@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

I am new to NVDA. It looks like a great tool for my mum who is in her 70s and losing her sight. She is bilingual (English-Mandarin) and I have installed Switch Synth 1.02 (https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/switchSynth.en.html) together with NVDA on her pc.

 

Can anyone help with configuration instructions?

 

Thank you.

 

Diana Kwok.

 

 



Re: notification adds

 

By the way, I also have turned OFF these two toggles in that same pane:

Let Windows track app launches to improve Start and search results

Show me suggested content in the Settings app
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: notification adds

 

I have no idea whether this will work, but I think I've had two ads ever since I started using Windows 10 in 2015.  The very first thing I did was to go through the Privacy Settings, pane by pane, to lock things down as much as one could then.  I don't use the personal digital assistant feature of Cortana, and that might have an effect, and I do not return web search results in Windows searches.

But the thing I'd try is in the General pane of Privacy settings, and it's the first toggle:  Let apps use advertising ID to make ads more interesting to you based on your app usage (turning this off will reset your ID).

Mine has been OFF since somewhere in the first week of the debut of Windows 10.

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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: notification adds

Kenny <kwashingtonbox@...>
 

I've also noticed this over the past few weeks. Microsoft is posting a lot of adverts via push notification about different sales. Really want to turn this off completely for it is annoying!


Also using the latest build of Windows 10.


On 8/8/2018 7:38 PM, Holger Fiallo wrote:
Hi, all
I am getting several notification adds them notification states setting and close. How do I make sure they are gone? Need to make sure this does not happen again. This is recent. Using W10.

Holger Fiallo


Re: How to click on links when they won't click

 

Scott,

        The site you list has another twist on the hover over theme but it's not hover over.   That page is, overall, one of the most complex I've encountered in a long time.

         It's difficult to know what to experiment with.  If you have a specific control you'd like for me to explore to start let me know what it is.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: How to click on links when they won't click

 

Jackie,

         I had a write-o, it's not typographical, as INS + Num Pad Slash is the desktop keystroke sequence while INS + Shift + M is the laptop sequence for bringing the mouse to the navigator object (that link, in this case), and that's what I was doing, not a left mouse click, which is just number pad slash for desktop.

         I did not have luck with arrow down, at least not as consistently, after the hover over menus were visible.  But hitting tab always took me through them, item by item.  It appears that both methods work, so if down arrow didn't I'd try TAB or vice versa after having done the move mouse to navigator object command.

         It is a PITA, but so much about using alternate access to what is a visual medium by design, is, and sometimes far more so than others.  At least there appears to be a functional way to do it!

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: NVDA 2018 and a touchscreen tablet

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Dave,

I don't know of an audio tutorial for using the touch screen specifically.  NVDA has some gestures setup out of the box for touch screens.  You can also setup other gestures yourself.



There is also a section on using Input Gestures, which you can use to setup new gestures: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html#NVDATouchGestures

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 3:58 AM, David Mehler <dave.mehler@...> wrote:
Hello,

I've got a surface pro tablet running win10 (soon to be 1803), that
I'd like to get NVDA going on. My goal is to use the tablet
keyboardless or at least with the option of going keyboardless. I was
wondering are there any audio tutorials of NVDA users demo touchscreen
with win10?

Thanks.
Dave.






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Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


notification adds

Holger Fiallo <hfiallo@...>
 

Hi, all
I am getting several notification adds them notification states setting and close. How do I make sure they are gone? Need to make sure this does not happen again. This is recent. Using W10.

Holger Fiallo


Re: How to click on links when they won't click

Gene
 

what browser are you using?  I tried two or three links and got them to work in the usual way.  I saw some menu buttons and I tried activating one.  I had to do the following:
I used the I am menu button.  I went into forms mode.  I pressed enter on the I am button and was then able to down arrow through a menu of fifteen items.  I didn't do anything further such as to try to work with the menu by pressing enter on an item. 
 
I didn't test with new versions of programs.  I would have had to go online with my Windows 7 machine.  But I would think that if the Firefox version 52.X ESR can work with an older version of NVDA, then newer versions should be able to work as well. 
 
How many browsers did you try and which ones?  Also, firefox works but Chrome won't load the site, saying it can't establish a secure connection.  I don't know if this matters, I don't know what information the site asks for.  But you might not be using a secure connection.
 
Gene

Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2018 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

Hello Brian.

The site I’m trying to sign up on is

https://joinmastodon.org/

Actually the only link that I can seem to activate is how it works and it just plays a video.

Thanks, and thanks to all for the suggestions

 

Scott

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 5:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 04:20 PM, Scott VanDeWalle wrote:

Once in a while, more and more lately it seems, I can not click with the enter key, or control enter, or the space bar and even with the num pad using numpad 0 enter.

So how do you click on a link in that case? 

Scott,

            Interesting that you bring this up today, as what I think is a similar situation to yours is something I just answered, and lamely (since I have no solution), is that there is the increasing use of "mouse hover over" menu systems that screen readers identify as links.  The one I was just talking about is the main navigation structure on crochet.org and on that page once you're in their navigation area only the "Home" and "Blog" links are actual links.  The others are hover-over menus and I cannot activate them with any keyboard commands I have tried.  Once my mouse is hovered over the top level links the menu appears, and I can tab through those links, but what's particularly evil is that most of those links are second level hover over controls that cause the next submenu to show up, and I can't make that submenu appear without hovering over.

             I could have sworn that either JAWS or NVDA had a command that was the equivalent of "bring the mouse pointer here as though it were hovering over this item" but I can't find them at the moment.

             If you can post a specific site you're having this issue with I can at least confirm whether this sort of navigation structure is at play there.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 

 


Re: How to click on links when they won't click

Cristóbal
 

Yup. Sometimes, you just have to mouse click on text. Especially in Firefox where you have that element announcement turned off. After a while, you kind of just know what’s a clickable item.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 4:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

Well, if what Scott was asking about is a "hover over" menu structure I have now been successful in using it with a combination of INS+Num Pad Slash (left mouse click) once I have focus on the top level link to get the menu to appear.  I can then tab through the menu items.  If I hit enter on one and nothing happens that indicates to me that it's another hover over, and I INS+Num Pad Slash to get its submenu to appear then tab through it.

If a link activates successfully with Enter or Spacebar then it's a normal link.  If it just sits there its a hover over link (at least so far), and I'm able to force the hover over to activate by doing a virtual left click, which does nothing but give mouse focus where it should be so that the submenu appears, as the actual click on these links when you're actually using a mouse does nothing.  It's the progressive movement of the mouse hovering over the various hover over links until you get to a "real" link that makes all this show up "the sighted way."  [The previous is included simply for comparison, contrasting, and because I figure some people are curious.  I'm not expecting anyone to actually use the mouse.]
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: How to click on links when they won't click

Jackie
 

Brian v, what I do is press the bring mouse to focus key, ie, capslock
m, to the link, then hit spacebar. When u press down arrow, you can
then read the expanded items. PITA, though, & I don't mean the
flatbread kind.

On 8/8/18, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, if what Scott was asking about is a "hover over" menu structure I have
now been successful in using it with a combination of INS+Num Pad Slash
(left mouse click) once I have focus on the top level link to get the menu
to appear.  I can then tab through the menu items.  If I hit enter on one
and nothing happens that indicates to me that it's another hover over, and I
INS+Num Pad Slash to get its submenu to appear then tab through it.

If a link activates successfully with Enter or Spacebar then it's a normal
link.  If it just sits there its a hover over link (at least so far), and
I'm able to force the hover over to activate by doing a virtual left click,
which does nothing but give mouse focus where it should be so that the
submenu appears, as the actual click on these links when you're actually
using a mouse does nothing.  It's the progressive movement of the mouse
hovering over the various hover over links until you get to a "real" link
that makes all this show up "the sighted way."  [The previous is included
simply for comparison, contrasting, and because I figure some people are
curious.  I'm not expecting anyone to actually use the mouse.]
--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

   A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for
all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel



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Helping Cybercrime Victims 1 Person at a Time
https://brighter-vision.com


Re: How to click on links when they won't click

 

Well, if what Scott was asking about is a "hover over" menu structure I have now been successful in using it with a combination of INS+Num Pad Slash (left mouse click) once I have focus on the top level link to get the menu to appear.  I can then tab through the menu items.  If I hit enter on one and nothing happens that indicates to me that it's another hover over, and I INS+Num Pad Slash to get its submenu to appear then tab through it.

If a link activates successfully with Enter or Spacebar then it's a normal link.  If it just sits there its a hover over link (at least so far), and I'm able to force the hover over to activate by doing a virtual left click, which does nothing but give mouse focus where it should be so that the submenu appears, as the actual click on these links when you're actually using a mouse does nothing.  It's the progressive movement of the mouse hovering over the various hover over links until you get to a "real" link that makes all this show up "the sighted way."  [The previous is included simply for comparison, contrasting, and because I figure some people are curious.  I'm not expecting anyone to actually use the mouse.]
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: How to click on links when they won't click

Scott VanDeWalle
 

Hello Brian.

The site I’m trying to sign up on is

https://joinmastodon.org/

Actually the only link that I can seem to activate is how it works and it just plays a video.

Thanks, and thanks to all for the suggestions

 

Scott

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 5:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 04:20 PM, Scott VanDeWalle wrote:

Once in a while, more and more lately it seems, I can not click with the enter key, or control enter, or the space bar and even with the num pad using numpad 0 enter.

So how do you click on a link in that case? 

Scott,

            Interesting that you bring this up today, as what I think is a similar situation to yours is something I just answered, and lamely (since I have no solution), is that there is the increasing use of "mouse hover over" menu systems that screen readers identify as links.  The one I was just talking about is the main navigation structure on crochet.org and on that page once you're in their navigation area only the "Home" and "Blog" links are actual links.  The others are hover-over menus and I cannot activate them with any keyboard commands I have tried.  Once my mouse is hovered over the top level links the menu appears, and I can tab through those links, but what's particularly evil is that most of those links are second level hover over controls that cause the next submenu to show up, and I can't make that submenu appear without hovering over.

             I could have sworn that either JAWS or NVDA had a command that was the equivalent of "bring the mouse pointer here as though it were hovering over this item" but I can't find them at the moment.

             If you can post a specific site you're having this issue with I can at least confirm whether this sort of navigation structure is at play there.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 

 


Re: Where do I Download Skype 7 From?

Inam Uddin
 

Dear friend, first of all Microsoft has decided to stop supporting Skype classic from September first 2018,but after great opposition of sighted people in general and visually challenged people in particular, Microsoft has withdrawn its decision of ending its support of Skype classic for sometimes.

So using Skype classic is just like injoying with a friend who can die at any moment.

Any howe, if you want to download Skype classic,

Please Clic Here

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

You can contact me via gmail:
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Inamuddin.ronaque@...

outlook:
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yahoo:
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Add my Skype ID:
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Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786

Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1

Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598 

+92-334-3348409

 

 

From: Brian K. Lingard
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 12:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Cc: skypeenglish@...
Subject: [nvda] Where do I Download Skype 7 From?
Importance: High

 

Attempted to download Skype 7 from https://www.skype.com

 

Chose download desktop for windows, only version offered was 8.5.!

 

Is Skype 7 still downloadable? Where may I obtain it?

Brian

 

 


Re: Accessibility check request

Rayn Darren
 

Thanks. Well, looks like I have the rest of my month planned, lol.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tyler Spivey
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 2:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessibility check request

Edge shows the issue, Firefox doesn't.
There are tables on the page, used for layout. Check the source.
As an example, on the login form, Username and Password are in separate
cells.

On 8/8/2018 2:48 PM, Rayn Darren wrote:
Huh, yup, that fixed it. there are no tables on the page though; there
are images of bars that visually mark sections however.

Thanks!



*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
*hurrikennyandopo ...
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 8, 2018 2:42 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessibility check request



Hi

Uncheck the box called tables under the document formatting section
in NVDA
I do not think the one under it would have to be done.

I had this turned off on your website then turned it on and then i heard
it say what you said.

You must of used some type of table?

Gene nz


On 8/9/2018 8:31 AM, Rayn Darren wrote:

Hi group,



I’ve run across a problem and I can’t quite figure out if it’s just
me or happens to others. I was on my website, www.dragonsofmyth.com
<http://www.dragonsofmyth.com> and found NVDA reading “table”,
“table with 1 row and one column”, “table with 3 rows” over and over
again, then reading the text on the page. This only happens on
specific templates for the site. I know for a fact that there are no
tables on the page as I made the site. This is a new problem, that I
only noticed yesterday. The only thing I can think of is NVDA is
picking up the images that are used to visually delineate between
columns and is recognizing them as “tables”. I would really
appreciate it if someone, or several someone’s could confirm this?
I’m hesitant to alter anything at the moment, as if it’s just me,
I’ll deal with it 😊.



Thanks so much,

Rayn




Re: Accessibility check request

Tyler Spivey
 

Edge shows the issue, Firefox doesn't.
There are tables on the page, used for layout. Check the source.
As an example, on the login form, Username and Password are in separate
cells.

On 8/8/2018 2:48 PM, Rayn Darren wrote:
Huh, yup, that fixed it. there are no tables on the page though; there
are images of bars that visually mark sections however.

Thanks!

 

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
*hurrikennyandopo ...
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 8, 2018 2:42 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessibility check request

 

Hi

Uncheck the box called tables under the document   formatting  section
in NVDA
I do not think the one under it would have to be done.

I had this turned off on your website then turned it on and then i heard
it say what you said.

You must of used some type of table?

Gene nz
 

On 8/9/2018 8:31 AM, Rayn Darren wrote:

Hi group,

 

I’ve run across a problem and I can’t quite figure out if it’s just
me or happens to others. I was on my website, www.dragonsofmyth.com
<http://www.dragonsofmyth.com> and found NVDA reading  “table”,
“table with 1 row and one column”, “table with 3 rows” over and over
again, then reading the text on the page. This only happens on
specific templates for the site. I know for a fact that there are no
tables on the page as I made the site. This is a new problem, that I
only noticed yesterday. The only thing I can think of is NVDA is
picking up the images that are used to visually delineate between
columns and is recognizing them as “tables”. I would really
appreciate it if someone, or several someone’s could confirm this?
I’m hesitant to alter anything at the moment, as if it’s just me,
I’ll deal with it 😊.

 

Thanks so much,

Rayn

 


Re: Accessibility check request

Tyler Spivey
 

There's an open NVDA issue about this:

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7708

On 8/8/2018 2:55 PM, Rayn Darren wrote:
Thanks, will check it out!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Antony Stone
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 2:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessibility check request

You might find https://validator.w3.org/check useful.

Enter the address of your website into the Address box and press Enter.

It will give you an assessment of how good the HTML of the page is, and for
that site it shows me quite a number of warnings about table structure.

Antony.

On Wednesday 08 August 2018 at 23:44:31, Rayn Darren wrote:

I almost exclusively use Edge, I'm using jade template as mythblackplain,
which I made does not have the issue. Yes, you can see it on the homepage
without creating a character, though you're more than welcome to do so 😊.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tyler Spivey
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 2:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessibility check request

Yep. What browser are you using, and what template?
I assume you can see this on the main homepage, without creating a
character?

On 8/8/2018 2:32 PM, Rayn Darren wrote:
Hmmmm, the setting is not checked. Any other suggestions?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tyler Spivey
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 1:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessibility check request

Go to NVDA, Preferences, Settings, Browse Mode, and uncheck Include
layout tables.

On 8/8/2018 1:31 PM, Rayn Darren wrote:
Hi group,



I’ve run across a problem and I can’t quite figure out if it’s just me
or happens to others. I was on my website, www.dragonsofmyth.com
<http://www.dragonsofmyth.com> and found NVDA reading “table”, “table
with 1 row and one column”, “table with 3 rows” over and over again,
then reading the text on the page. This only happens on specific
templates for the site. I know for a fact that there are no tables on
the page as I made the site. This is a new problem, that I only noticed
yesterday. The only thing I can think of is NVDA is picking up the
images that are used to visually delineate between columns and is
recognizing them as “tables”. I would really appreciate it if someone,
or several someone’s could confirm this? I’m hesitant to alter anything
at the moment, as if it’s just me, I’ll deal with it 😊.



Thanks so much,

Rayn