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Re: Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

Walker, Michael E
 

I agree with Joseph. If we have two screen readers failing, I would definitely ask about it. Also, it often saves a lot of time when we ask someone who knows versus trying to troubleshoot ourselves.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 11:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

Hi,
If Narrator also fails to speak (if I read a previous message correctly), then it might be time to ask folks at Redmond if UIA is to blame... again.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 9:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

Yes, I use Windows Key I. I just get silence when I tab and blank when I arrow up and down.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: 02 August 2018 17:18
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

Are these settings opened by hitting windows key I? if so, I'm having no issues.

On 8/2/2018 9:03 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi,

It is still broken with all add-ons disabled.

Update though, it is broken in Narrator as well. Glad I have JAWS for
this one.

All th best


Steve

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *abdul
muhamin
*Sent:* 01 August 2018 08:45
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible
with NVDA

Hi all. I’ve noticed the same problem yesterday, sometimes. The
settings app is not readable by NVDA. However, you can restart this
app 2 or more times to make it readable. I don’t know, whether this is
the problem with the last security updates of win10. or something is
wrong with some addons, I doesn’t tri with addons disable

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Chris via Groups.Io
<mailto:chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
*Sent: *Monday, July 30, 2018 7:18 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible
with NVDA

First things first, try a restart of windows

If that don’t work , restart nvda with addons disabled

See how that goes

*From: *Steve Nutt <mailto:steve@comproom.co.uk>
*Sent: *30 July 2018 09:55
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *[nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with
NVDA

Hi,

Using Windows 10 V1803, I notice that when you tab round in settings
now, none of the lists or tabs are voiced by NVDA at all. I do have
App Essentials installed.

Any thoughts? They are still voiced by JAWS.

Thanks.

All the best


Steve

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Re: Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi,
If Narrator also fails to speak (if I read a previous message correctly), then it might be time to ask folks at Redmond if UIA is to blame... again.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 9:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

Yes, I use Windows Key I. I just get silence when I tab and blank when I arrow up and down.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: 02 August 2018 17:18
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

Are these settings opened by hitting windows key I? if so, I'm having no issues.

On 8/2/2018 9:03 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi,

It is still broken with all add-ons disabled.

Update though, it is broken in Narrator as well. Glad I have JAWS for
this one.

All th best


Steve

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *abdul
muhamin
*Sent:* 01 August 2018 08:45
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible
with NVDA

Hi all. I’ve noticed the same problem yesterday, sometimes. The
settings app is not readable by NVDA. However, you can restart this
app 2 or more times to make it readable. I don’t know, whether this is
the problem with the last security updates of win10. or something is
wrong with some addons, I doesn’t tri with addons disable

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Chris via Groups.Io
<mailto:chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
*Sent: *Monday, July 30, 2018 7:18 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible
with NVDA

First things first, try a restart of windows

If that don’t work , restart nvda with addons disabled

See how that goes

*From: *Steve Nutt <mailto:steve@comproom.co.uk>
*Sent: *30 July 2018 09:55
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *[nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with
NVDA

Hi,

Using Windows 10 V1803, I notice that when you tab round in settings
now, none of the lists or tabs are voiced by NVDA at all. I do have
App Essentials installed.

Any thoughts? They are still voiced by JAWS.

Thanks.

All the best


Steve

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Re: Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

Chris
 

Awww, shucks! 😃

 

 

From: Steve Nutt
Sent: 02 August 2018 17:19
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Chris, you still don’t win the price.

 

Updated to 2018.2.1 and still no settings.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via Groups.Io
Sent: 02 August 2018 15:17
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Why not use the latest version of nvda first, see if that works out for you?

 

 

From: Steve Nutt
Sent: 02 August 2018 14:10
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi Joseph,

 

I have 2018.1.1 and no amount of opening or closing settings fixes it.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: 30 July 2018 15:11
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi,

Which version of NVDA do you have, and does reopening Settings app fix the problem?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 1:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi,

 

Using Windows 10 V1803, I notice that when you tab round in settings now, none of the lists or tabs are voiced by NVDA at all.  I do have App Essentials installed.

 

Any thoughts?  They are still voiced by JAWS.

 

Thanks.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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Re: Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

Steve Nutt
 

Yes, I use Windows Key I. I just get silence when I tab and blank when I arrow up and down.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: 02 August 2018 17:18
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

Are these settings opened by hitting windows key I? if so, I'm having no issues.

On 8/2/2018 9:03 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi,

It is still broken with all add-ons disabled.

Update though, it is broken in Narrator as well. Glad I have JAWS for
this one.

All th best


Steve

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *abdul
muhamin
*Sent:* 01 August 2018 08:45
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible
with NVDA

Hi all. I’ve noticed the same problem yesterday, sometimes. The
settings app is not readable by NVDA. However, you can restart this
app 2 or more times to make it readable. I don’t know, whether this is
the problem with the last security updates of win10. or something is
wrong with some addons, I doesn’t tri with addons disable

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Chris via Groups.Io
<mailto:chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
*Sent: *Monday, July 30, 2018 7:18 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible
with NVDA

First things first, try a restart of windows

If that don’t work , restart nvda with addons disabled

See how that goes

*From: *Steve Nutt <mailto:steve@comproom.co.uk>
*Sent: *30 July 2018 09:55
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *[nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with
NVDA

Hi,

Using Windows 10 V1803, I notice that when you tab round in settings
now, none of the lists or tabs are voiced by NVDA at all. I do have
App Essentials installed.

Any thoughts? They are still voiced by JAWS.

Thanks.

All the best


Steve

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Re: Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

 

I’m not an Insider at this point and it happens on both my machines.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: 02 August 2018 17:06
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi,

I’ll ask several Windows Insiders if they can reproduce this on Redstone 5. Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 9:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi,

 

It is still broken with all add-ons disabled.

 

Update though, it is broken in Narrator as well.  Glad I have JAWS for this one.

 

All th best


Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of abdul muhamin
Sent: 01 August 2018 08:45
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi all. I’ve noticed the same problem yesterday, sometimes. The settings app is not readable by NVDA. However, you can restart this app 2 or more times to make it readable. I don’t know, whether this is the problem with the last security updates of win10. or something is wrong with some addons, I doesn’t tri with addons disable

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chris via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 7:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

First things first, try a restart of windows

If that don’t work , restart nvda with addons disabled

See how that goes

 

From: Steve Nutt
Sent: 30 July 2018 09:55
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi,

 

Using Windows 10 V1803, I notice that when you tab round in settings now, none of the lists or tabs are voiced by NVDA at all.  I do have App Essentials installed.

 

Any thoughts?  They are still voiced by JAWS.

 

Thanks.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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Re: Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

Steve Nutt
 

Chris, you still don’t win the price.

 

Updated to 2018.2.1 and still no settings.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via Groups.Io
Sent: 02 August 2018 15:17
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Why not use the latest version of nvda first, see if that works out for you?

 

 

From: Steve Nutt
Sent: 02 August 2018 14:10
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi Joseph,

 

I have 2018.1.1 and no amount of opening or closing settings fixes it.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: 30 July 2018 15:11
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi,

Which version of NVDA do you have, and does reopening Settings app fix the problem?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 1:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi,

 

Using Windows 10 V1803, I notice that when you tab round in settings now, none of the lists or tabs are voiced by NVDA at all.  I do have App Essentials installed.

 

Any thoughts?  They are still voiced by JAWS.

 

Thanks.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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Re: Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

Brice Mijares
 

Are these settings opened by hitting windows key I? if so, I'm having no issues.

On 8/2/2018 9:03 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi,
It is still broken with all add-ons disabled.
Update though, it is broken in Narrator as well.  Glad I have JAWS for this one.
All th best
Steve
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *abdul muhamin
*Sent:* 01 August 2018 08:45
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA
Hi all. I’ve noticed the same problem yesterday, sometimes. The settings app is not readable by NVDA. However, you can restart this app 2 or more times to make it readable. I don’t know, whether this is the problem with the last security updates of win10. or something is wrong with some addons, I doesn’t tri with addons disable
Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10
*From: *Chris via Groups.Io <mailto:chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
*Sent: *Monday, July 30, 2018 7:18 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA
First things first, try a restart of windows
If that don’t work , restart nvda with addons disabled
See how that goes
*From: *Steve Nutt <mailto:steve@comproom.co.uk>
*Sent: *30 July 2018 09:55
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *[nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA
Hi,
Using Windows 10 V1803, I notice that when you tab round in settings now, none of the lists or tabs are voiced by NVDA at all.  I do have App Essentials installed.
Any thoughts?  They are still voiced by JAWS.
Thanks.
All the best
Steve
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Re: Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi Michael,

They are folks who test pre-release versions of Windows 10 feature updates. I’m one of them (one of the original cohort of Windows Insiders back in 2014), and there are folks here who do test preview builds.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Walker, Michael E
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 9:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

What are Windows Insiders?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 11:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi,

I’ll ask several Windows Insiders if they can reproduce this on Redstone 5. Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 9:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi,

 

It is still broken with all add-ons disabled.

 

Update though, it is broken in Narrator as well.  Glad I have JAWS for this one.

 

All th best


Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of abdul muhamin
Sent: 01 August 2018 08:45
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi all. I’ve noticed the same problem yesterday, sometimes. The settings app is not readable by NVDA. However, you can restart this app 2 or more times to make it readable. I don’t know, whether this is the problem with the last security updates of win10. or something is wrong with some addons, I doesn’t tri with addons disable

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chris via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 7:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

First things first, try a restart of windows

If that don’t work , restart nvda with addons disabled

See how that goes

 

From: Steve Nutt
Sent: 30 July 2018 09:55
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi,

 

Using Windows 10 V1803, I notice that when you tab round in settings now, none of the lists or tabs are voiced by NVDA at all.  I do have App Essentials installed.

 

Any thoughts?  They are still voiced by JAWS.

 

Thanks.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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Re: Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

Walker, Michael E
 

What are Windows Insiders?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 11:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi,

I’ll ask several Windows Insiders if they can reproduce this on Redstone 5. Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 9:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi,

 

It is still broken with all add-ons disabled.

 

Update though, it is broken in Narrator as well.  Glad I have JAWS for this one.

 

All th best


Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of abdul muhamin
Sent: 01 August 2018 08:45
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi all. I’ve noticed the same problem yesterday, sometimes. The settings app is not readable by NVDA. However, you can restart this app 2 or more times to make it readable. I don’t know, whether this is the problem with the last security updates of win10. or something is wrong with some addons, I doesn’t tri with addons disable

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chris via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 7:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

First things first, try a restart of windows

If that don’t work , restart nvda with addons disabled

See how that goes

 

From: Steve Nutt
Sent: 30 July 2018 09:55
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi,

 

Using Windows 10 V1803, I notice that when you tab round in settings now, none of the lists or tabs are voiced by NVDA at all.  I do have App Essentials installed.

 

Any thoughts?  They are still voiced by JAWS.

 

Thanks.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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Re: Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi,

I’ll ask several Windows Insiders if they can reproduce this on Redstone 5. Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 9:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi,

 

It is still broken with all add-ons disabled.

 

Update though, it is broken in Narrator as well.  Glad I have JAWS for this one.

 

All th best


Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of abdul muhamin
Sent: 01 August 2018 08:45
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi all. I’ve noticed the same problem yesterday, sometimes. The settings app is not readable by NVDA. However, you can restart this app 2 or more times to make it readable. I don’t know, whether this is the problem with the last security updates of win10. or something is wrong with some addons, I doesn’t tri with addons disable

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chris via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 7:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

First things first, try a restart of windows

If that don’t work , restart nvda with addons disabled

See how that goes

 

From: Steve Nutt
Sent: 30 July 2018 09:55
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi,

 

Using Windows 10 V1803, I notice that when you tab round in settings now, none of the lists or tabs are voiced by NVDA at all.  I do have App Essentials installed.

 

Any thoughts?  They are still voiced by JAWS.

 

Thanks.

 

All the best


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Re: Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

 

It is still broken with all add-ons disabled.

 

Update though, it is broken in Narrator as well.  Glad I have JAWS for this one.

 

All th best


Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of abdul muhamin
Sent: 01 August 2018 08:45
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi all. I’ve noticed the same problem yesterday, sometimes. The settings app is not readable by NVDA. However, you can restart this app 2 or more times to make it readable. I don’t know, whether this is the problem with the last security updates of win10. or something is wrong with some addons, I doesn’t tri with addons disable

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chris via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 7:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

First things first, try a restart of windows

If that don’t work , restart nvda with addons disabled

See how that goes

 

From: Steve Nutt
Sent: 30 July 2018 09:55
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi,

 

Using Windows 10 V1803, I notice that when you tab round in settings now, none of the lists or tabs are voiced by NVDA at all.  I do have App Essentials installed.

 

Any thoughts?  They are still voiced by JAWS.

 

Thanks.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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Re: Intermittent lack of feedback in Windows Explorer

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Hmm, what is the difference then between our systems? Maybe we have different views in explorer.

 

Regards,

  Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Felix G.
Sent: Donnerstag, 2. August 2018 13:44
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Intermittent lack of feedback in Windows Explorer

 

Hi!

With a lot of entering and backspacing back out of folders I was able to make it happen once on current alpha. But it's much, much better. Just tested on Win 7.

@Joseph does this match your theory?

Best,

Felix

 

Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@...> schrieb am Do., 2. Aug. 2018 um 12:43 Uhr:

That’s maybe I don’t’see that at all…if you speak about alpha versions…

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Donnerstag, 2. August 2018 11:42


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Intermittent lack of feedback in Windows Explorer

 

Hi,

Yes, I thought so. I’m hoping that there would be a resolution from both NV Access and Microsoft (a little hint: some of you are already testing a potential fix).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Felix G.
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 2:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Intermittent lack of feedback in Windows Explorer

 

It's build 1803, no insider build.

Best,

Felix

 

Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> schrieb am Do., 2. Aug. 2018 um 11:34 Uhr:

Hi,

For Windows 10, this is build 17134, correct? If what I’m thinking is happening, then there might be some hope (later).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Felix G.

Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 2:30 AM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Intermittent lack of feedback in Windows Explorer

 

Hi Joseph,

happens on Win 7 and 10. I could detect no correlation with restarting NVDA.

Best,

Felix

 

Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> schrieb am Do., 2. Aug. 2018 um 11:28 Uhr:

Hi,

And does restarting NVDA resolve the problem for a while? If it does and if the problem happens again, then I think I know what might be going on. Also, which Windows version are you using?

Cheers,

Joseph

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Felix G.
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 2:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Intermittent lack of feedback in Windows Explorer

 

Hello,

no, the issue cannot be described in terms of delays. When feedback fails to occur, it will then simply not occur no matter how long I would wait. It is genuinely different behavior rather than just slowed down normal behavior.

Best,

Felix

 

Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> schrieb am Do., 2. Aug. 2018 um 10:55 Uhr:

When cursoring up and down, does the selcted item  get said after a delay,
and if so and you hear that, can you then select the file?

I had this with explorer both on windows 7 and 10, and it was the processor
in the  computer actually not running at full speed. It seems on many
laptops the processor is slow to catch up with demand and hence the actual
selection is behind the  one you think it is on, or worse, on nothing at
all!
 I'm sure somebody else will respond but I had to go digging into advanced
power management and crank up the idle speed to at least 50 percent, it was
set at 10 percent, before acceptable results occurred.
 Of course it could be something else, but this was the reason I found for
most of it. I would have thought that as nvda is hogging one core and hence
stopping the machine using it, Windows ought to sense it and up the speed of
the cores. It seems that this only happens sometimes when more than one core
is maxed out. I guess this might be because nvda is a 32 bit app, not a 64
bit one with  the ability to  push threads though different processor cores.
I'd welcome some more knowledgeable people to comment.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Felix G." <constantlyvariable@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2018 8:46 AM
Subject: [nvda] Intermittent lack of feedback in Windows Explorer


> Hello,
> I'd like to ask around if anyone else has noticed this disturbing trend:
> When pressing enter on a folder in Windows Explorer, NVDA usually
> announces
> "element view list" followed by the name of the first element in that
> folder. Often, however, NVDA remains silent. Requesting developer info for
> the navigator object then yields something like the log excerpt I am
> posting below.
> Any ideas how I could make this behave? Being a child of the age of DOS,
> when there is silence I usually wait because I assume my command takes
> longer to complete. I know I'm pedantic, but then this is software and
> not,
> say, astrology.
> Here is that log excerpt now:
> name: ''
> role: ROLE_LISTITEM
> states: exception: (-2147220991, 'Ein Ereignis konnte keinen Abonnenten
> aufrufen.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
> isFocusable: exception: (-2147220991, 'Ein Ereignis konnte keinen
> Abonnenten aufrufen.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
> hasFocus: False
> Python object: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_UIItemListItemUIA object at
> 0x05B786D0>
> Python class mro: (<class 'NVDAObjects.Dynamic_UIItemListItemUIA'>, <class
> 'NVDAObjects.UIA.UIItem'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.UIA.ListItem'>, <class
> 'NVDAObjects.UIA.UIA'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class
> 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class 'documentBase.TextContainerObject'>,
> <class 'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class
> 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)
> description: ''
> location: None
> value: ''
> appModule: <'explorer' (appName u'explorer', process ID 1492) at address
> 5a151f0>
> appModule.productName: u'Betriebssystem Microsoft\xae Windows\xae'
> appModule.productVersion: u'6.1.7600.16385'
> TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>
> windowHandle: 264856
> windowClassName: u'DirectUIHWND'
> windowControlID: 0
> windowStyle: 0
> windowThreadID: 0
> windowText: u''
> displayText: exception: 'NoneType' object is not iterable
> UIAElement: <POINTER(IUIAutomationElement) ptr=0x42cc2e8 at 5c5be40>
> UIA automationID: Exception: (-2147220991, 'Ein Ereignis konnte keinen
> Abonnenten aufrufen.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
> UIA frameworkID: DirectUI
> UIA runtimeID: (1492, 217953568, 0)
> UIA providerDescription: [pid:1492,hwnd:0x0 Main(parent link):Unidentified
> Provider (unmanaged:EXPLORERFRAME.dll)]
> UIA className: Exception: (-2147220991, 'Ein Ereignis konnte keinen
> Abonnenten aufrufen.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
> UIA patterns available:
> All the best,
> Felix
>
>
>
>


Re: NVDA Tech Support: part 3 and complete set now available

 

Hi,

Er, I guess you meant to ask Quentin?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Walker, Michael E
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 5:18 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Tech Support: part 3 and complete set now available

 

Joseph,

 

Have you considered linking to the tech support series from nvaccess.org?

 

Thanks,

Mike

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 5:29 PM
To: 'NVDA screen reader development' <nvda-devel@...>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Tech Support: part 3 and complete set now available

 

Hi all,

 

The third part of NVDA Tech Support: An Introduction is now available:

https://www.josephsl.net/files/NVDATechSupportWebinar3.mp3

 

This part talks about recognizing and troubleshooting common problems users may encounter as they use NVDA.

 

Also, the complete set of this webinar series is now available:

https://www.josephsl.net/files/NVDATechSupport.zip

 

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Intermittent lack of feedback in Windows Explorer

 

Hi,

It is too early to tell at the moment, so we need to test more.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Felix G.
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 4:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Intermittent lack of feedback in Windows Explorer

 

Hi!

With a lot of entering and backspacing back out of folders I was able to make it happen once on current alpha. But it's much, much better. Just tested on Win 7.

@Joseph does this match your theory?

Best,

Felix

 

Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@...> schrieb am Do., 2. Aug. 2018 um 12:43 Uhr:

That’s maybe I don’t’see that at all…if you speak about alpha versions…

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Donnerstag, 2. August 2018 11:42


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Intermittent lack of feedback in Windows Explorer

 

Hi,

Yes, I thought so. I’m hoping that there would be a resolution from both NV Access and Microsoft (a little hint: some of you are already testing a potential fix).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Felix G.
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 2:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Intermittent lack of feedback in Windows Explorer

 

It's build 1803, no insider build.

Best,

Felix

 

Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> schrieb am Do., 2. Aug. 2018 um 11:34 Uhr:

Hi,

For Windows 10, this is build 17134, correct? If what I’m thinking is happening, then there might be some hope (later).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Felix G.

Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 2:30 AM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Intermittent lack of feedback in Windows Explorer

 

Hi Joseph,

happens on Win 7 and 10. I could detect no correlation with restarting NVDA.

Best,

Felix

 

Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> schrieb am Do., 2. Aug. 2018 um 11:28 Uhr:

Hi,

And does restarting NVDA resolve the problem for a while? If it does and if the problem happens again, then I think I know what might be going on. Also, which Windows version are you using?

Cheers,

Joseph

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Felix G.
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 2:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Intermittent lack of feedback in Windows Explorer

 

Hello,

no, the issue cannot be described in terms of delays. When feedback fails to occur, it will then simply not occur no matter how long I would wait. It is genuinely different behavior rather than just slowed down normal behavior.

Best,

Felix

 

Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> schrieb am Do., 2. Aug. 2018 um 10:55 Uhr:

When cursoring up and down, does the selcted item  get said after a delay,
and if so and you hear that, can you then select the file?

I had this with explorer both on windows 7 and 10, and it was the processor
in the  computer actually not running at full speed. It seems on many
laptops the processor is slow to catch up with demand and hence the actual
selection is behind the  one you think it is on, or worse, on nothing at
all!
 I'm sure somebody else will respond but I had to go digging into advanced
power management and crank up the idle speed to at least 50 percent, it was
set at 10 percent, before acceptable results occurred.
 Of course it could be something else, but this was the reason I found for
most of it. I would have thought that as nvda is hogging one core and hence
stopping the machine using it, Windows ought to sense it and up the speed of
the cores. It seems that this only happens sometimes when more than one core
is maxed out. I guess this might be because nvda is a 32 bit app, not a 64
bit one with  the ability to  push threads though different processor cores.
I'd welcome some more knowledgeable people to comment.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Felix G." <constantlyvariable@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2018 8:46 AM
Subject: [nvda] Intermittent lack of feedback in Windows Explorer


> Hello,
> I'd like to ask around if anyone else has noticed this disturbing trend:
> When pressing enter on a folder in Windows Explorer, NVDA usually
> announces
> "element view list" followed by the name of the first element in that
> folder. Often, however, NVDA remains silent. Requesting developer info for
> the navigator object then yields something like the log excerpt I am
> posting below.
> Any ideas how I could make this behave? Being a child of the age of DOS,
> when there is silence I usually wait because I assume my command takes
> longer to complete. I know I'm pedantic, but then this is software and
> not,
> say, astrology.
> Here is that log excerpt now:
> name: ''
> role: ROLE_LISTITEM
> states: exception: (-2147220991, 'Ein Ereignis konnte keinen Abonnenten
> aufrufen.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
> isFocusable: exception: (-2147220991, 'Ein Ereignis konnte keinen
> Abonnenten aufrufen.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
> hasFocus: False
> Python object: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_UIItemListItemUIA object at
> 0x05B786D0>
> Python class mro: (<class 'NVDAObjects.Dynamic_UIItemListItemUIA'>, <class
> 'NVDAObjects.UIA.UIItem'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.UIA.ListItem'>, <class
> 'NVDAObjects.UIA.UIA'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class
> 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class 'documentBase.TextContainerObject'>,
> <class 'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class
> 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)
> description: ''
> location: None
> value: ''
> appModule: <'explorer' (appName u'explorer', process ID 1492) at address
> 5a151f0>
> appModule.productName: u'Betriebssystem Microsoft\xae Windows\xae'
> appModule.productVersion: u'6.1.7600.16385'
> TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>
> windowHandle: 264856
> windowClassName: u'DirectUIHWND'
> windowControlID: 0
> windowStyle: 0
> windowThreadID: 0
> windowText: u''
> displayText: exception: 'NoneType' object is not iterable
> UIAElement: <POINTER(IUIAutomationElement) ptr=0x42cc2e8 at 5c5be40>
> UIA automationID: Exception: (-2147220991, 'Ein Ereignis konnte keinen
> Abonnenten aufrufen.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
> UIA frameworkID: DirectUI
> UIA runtimeID: (1492, 217953568, 0)
> UIA providerDescription: [pid:1492,hwnd:0x0 Main(parent link):Unidentified
> Provider (unmanaged:EXPLORERFRAME.dll)]
> UIA className: Exception: (-2147220991, 'Ein Ereignis konnte keinen
> Abonnenten aufrufen.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
> UIA patterns available:
> All the best,
> Felix
>
>
>
>


Re: Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

Chris
 

Why not use the latest version of nvda first, see if that works out for you?

 

 

From: Steve Nutt
Sent: 02 August 2018 14:10
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi Joseph,

 

I have 2018.1.1 and no amount of opening or closing settings fixes it.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: 30 July 2018 15:11
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi,

Which version of NVDA do you have, and does reopening Settings app fix the problem?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 1:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi,

 

Using Windows 10 V1803, I notice that when you tab round in settings now, none of the lists or tabs are voiced by NVDA at all.  I do have App Essentials installed.

 

Any thoughts?  They are still voiced by JAWS.

 

Thanks.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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Re: some questions about NVDA

Jonathan COHN
 

Flexible web maintains a database of web sites and then can do one of two things when a site is loaded.

 

  1. Changing the initial  place where the screen reader speaks.
  2. Hide a sub tree of the current page from view by the screen reader.

The selectors are usually something like:

  1. all frames,
  2. first frame with the title Advert
  3. Third H3 heading
  4. Last H3 heading
  5. List with class TOC

 

Take care.

 

Jonathan Cohn

 

 

From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Quentin Christensen <quentin@...>
Reply-To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 3:33 AM
To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] some questions about NVDA

 

Hi Abdul,

 

1) I haven't been paying attention, I'm not sure what Flexible web is?

2) There is a screen curtain feature being tested currently.  You can read more and try it here: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7857

3) Image description:  Good idea, There was an issue created awhile ago, but it doesn't appear anyone has looked at the current situation: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7671

4) Re OCR has gone downhill.  I'm not sure.  It's not even something that's easy to replicate

5) There are several performance issues with Office we are slowly working on.  If you have a particular one in mind, search for it on our Issue tracker and you will hopefully find a relevant conversation to follow: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues

6) Unlikely.  The problem is that CAPTCHAs are designed to make you do something that proves you are a human, so bots and computer generated algorithms can't get past them.  Ergo, WE can't write an algorithm to defeat them (and if we do, they will change the test, because if we can, the spammers can too).  The best approach is to advocate for change in addressing the problem that CAPTCHA seeks to solve.

7) Not sure off the top of my head.  After it happens, if you could send me a copy of your NVDA log, ideally at debug level  (to info@... ) I can have a look and try for you.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 6:55 PM, abdul muhamin <abdulmuhamin600@...> wrote:

Hi all. Here are some questions I want to ask

1.       Can we expect flexible web with NVDA in future?

2.       What about the screen curtain addon for NVDA?

3.       As you all know, Narrator has an image description feature, why we doesn’t have this important feature in NVDA?

4.       In the early updates of win10. When the win10 OCR implemented on NVDA. It recognize almost everything, for example, the photos in photos app, even I used it for reading video games menu. But now, its very laggy. And doesn’t recognize as it was before. Why is that?

5.       In Microsoft office 2013 or 2016, the NVDA has so many delays, while reading, writing, and while reading the ribbon menus, why?

6.       In the modern browsers like the Firefox quantum, solving captcha images is the main issue for many vi people. Can we expect a feature in NVDA for it

7.       Last question, I’m using Microsoft mail app. And I’ve created a sepret profile for it. Sometimes after reading or replying to a mail. When I press windows plus m to move to the desktop. The NVDA stops reading anything. And it force me to restart the NVDA, why?

I hope all of the above mentioned problems will be fixed in the

Future!

Keep the NVDA alive!

Thanks.

Regards

Abdul muhamin

Chief Content Officer at

Blind Help Project



 

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Re: New Google results page??

Jonathan COHN
 

To be a little more specific about this, There are usually a few category areas on the google results page. These are often titled:
Videos, Top News, Search Results, Advertising... These are always at H2 level so can be gotten to with the number 2 shortcut.

On my most recent search there were two H1 headings
The first: "Search Modes" followed by a set of text fields that are actually more like buttons to select News or Videos or Shopping.
The second "Search Results"

Each individual item and the "next" page bbutton are all at H3 levels. On this search I found it interesting that there was Top News, then Web Results (with some of the same links as top news) and then Videos and then more Web Results.


On 8/2/18, 9:30 AM, "Ralf Kefferpuetz" <ralf.kefferpuetz@elra-consulting.de> wrote:

The google site doesn't give me any probs. First you got the ads results, then the web results, so I just go down to the web results and then it is all very clear and easy...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Donnerstag, 2. August 2018 11:31
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Google results page??

I noticed google have redone their site, there are results clearly labeled as either adds, web or whatever, google the site for search has gotten a lot easier to handle for me.




On 8/2/2018 8:02 PM, zahra wrote:
> hi brian.
> i faced this issue in the recent days.
> even i go to google website and write and search my desire item, but
> finding the result became a little difficult.
> what is the solution to make previous behaviour?
>
> On 8/2/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
> <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
>> Its been a few days since i tried a google search from the address
>> bar, but
>>
>> now it comes up with a search choices with no apparent indication it
>> has any
>>
>> function, but it does and it then seems to get very confusing.
>> Unfortunately
>>
>> if you ignore it and use the search results list it seems very
>> restricted compared to how it was. It seems to be prioritising videos
>> and pictures, when what I really want are articles and web sites.
>>
>> Is there any way to get the traditional system back or does one have
>> to figure out the new choices system after a log in to actually make
>> it act in
>>
>> a sensible way?
>> Brian
>>
>> bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
>> Sent via blueyonder.
>> Please address personal E-mail to:-
>> briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
>> in the display name field.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


Re: Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

Steve Nutt
 

Good try, but no cigar.  Still doesn’t work after all the steps followed.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via Groups.Io
Sent: 30 July 2018 15:19
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

First things first, try a restart of windows

If that don’t work , restart nvda with addons disabled

See how that goes

 

From: Steve Nutt
Sent: 30 July 2018 09:55
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi,

 

Using Windows 10 V1803, I notice that when you tab round in settings now, none of the lists or tabs are voiced by NVDA at all.  I do have App Essentials installed.

 

Any thoughts?  They are still voiced by JAWS.

 

Thanks.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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Re: Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

Steve Nutt
 

Hi Joseph,

 

I have 2018.1.1 and no amount of opening or closing settings fixes it.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: 30 July 2018 15:11
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi,

Which version of NVDA do you have, and does reopening Settings app fix the problem?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 1:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 Settings applet no longer accessible with NVDA

 

Hi,

 

Using Windows 10 V1803, I notice that when you tab round in settings now, none of the lists or tabs are voiced by NVDA at all.  I do have App Essentials installed.

 

Any thoughts?  They are still voiced by JAWS.

 

Thanks.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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Re: some questions about NVDA

abdul muhamin
 

Hi again

I’ve seen the post on GitHub about Screen shade. And I’ve found the addon. And I must say, its working flawlessly. It should be implemented in NVDA it self

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: abdul muhamin
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 3:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] some questions about NVDA

 

Hi Quentin. Thanks for the reply. I’ll send the log. If that happened again. And yes. Creating that kind of algorithms is dangerous too. If you create an addon or something. The bots can use that. But in the newer version of Firefox. Which service should I use. As you know. The webvisum is gone. And it can no longer useable with latest Firefox. And about the flexible web. You can read about on this page

Thanks

Abdul Muhamin

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 12:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] some questions about NVDA

 

Hi Abdul,

 

1) I haven't been paying attention, I'm not sure what Flexible web is?

2) There is a screen curtain feature being tested currently.  You can read more and try it here: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7857

3) Image description:  Good idea, There was an issue created awhile ago, but it doesn't appear anyone has looked at the current situation: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7671

4) Re OCR has gone downhill.  I'm not sure.  It's not even something that's easy to replicate

5) There are several performance issues with Office we are slowly working on.  If you have a particular one in mind, search for it on our Issue tracker and you will hopefully find a relevant conversation to follow: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues

6) Unlikely.  The problem is that CAPTCHAs are designed to make you do something that proves you are a human, so bots and computer generated algorithms can't get past them.  Ergo, WE can't write an algorithm to defeat them (and if we do, they will change the test, because if we can, the spammers can too).  The best approach is to advocate for change in addressing the problem that CAPTCHA seeks to solve.

7) Not sure off the top of my head.  After it happens, if you could send me a copy of your NVDA log, ideally at debug level  (to info@... ) I can have a look and try for you.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 6:55 PM, abdul muhamin <abdulmuhamin600@...> wrote:

Hi all. Here are some questions I want to ask

1.      Can we expect flexible web with NVDA in future?

2.      What about the screen curtain addon for NVDA?

3.      As you all know, Narrator has an image description feature, why we doesn’t have this important feature in NVDA?

4.      In the early updates of win10. When the win10 OCR implemented on NVDA. It recognize almost everything, for example, the photos in photos app, even I used it for reading video games menu. But now, its very laggy. And doesn’t recognize as it was before. Why is that?

5.      In Microsoft office 2013 or 2016, the NVDA has so many delays, while reading, writing, and while reading the ribbon menus, why?

6.      In the modern browsers like the Firefox quantum, solving captcha images is the main issue for many vi people. Can we expect a feature in NVDA for it

7.      Last question, I’m using Microsoft mail app. And I’ve created a sepret profile for it. Sometimes after reading or replying to a mail. When I press windows plus m to move to the desktop. The NVDA stops reading anything. And it force me to restart the NVDA, why?

I hope all of the above mentioned problems will be fixed in the

Future!

Keep the NVDA alive!

Thanks.

Regards

Abdul muhamin

Chief Content Officer at

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