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Re: Windows 10 and email

 

Abbie,

           You can definitely set Gmail to go from conversation to conversation (or message to message, if you have conversation view off) as you delete messages rather than back to the inbox.  This is under Settings, Advanced, Auto-Advance.  Auto-Advance is disabled by default.

           To my knowledge there is still no way to change the sort order as far as most recent being last and oldest being first.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: Windows 10 and email

Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@...>
 

I've used the gmail site, and I agree with Sarah that it's easy to use, but in my opinion, it's clunky compared to Thunderbird and other programs. First of all, there doesn't seem to be a way to change the order in which messages are displayed. I prefer to read my messages from top to bottom with the newest at the bottom. I often skip messages and read them later when I have more time. I can do this more easily in Thunderbird because with one click of the down or up arrow, I'm told the message's subject, sender and other pertinent information. On the gmail site, I have to tab, arrow, or use other navigation commands to get this information. Since the gmail site displays the newer messages at the top, I can read messages from bottom to top, but when I delete a message, instead of opening the next message, as Thunderbird does, the gmail site takes me back to the in box, and I have to navigate to the next message I want to read. This makes using the gmail site more time consuming than using Thunderbird.


However, Thunderbird has its drawbacks, as I said in an earlier message. It's sometimes slow on start-up, and it freezes after I send a reply to a message on this and other groups.io lists in digest mode. I then have to close it, re-start it, find the digest message I was viewing, and find my place. That doesn't take nearly as much time as slogging through the gmail site. These are just my thoughts for what they're worth. To each his own.


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Advisory: StationPlaylist add-on 18.08.2 and later (tomorrow) will no longer check for updates on its own

 

Hi all,

 

An important advisory for those using StationPlaylist Studio add-on:

 

A few days ago I asked users of this add-on (members of nvda-spl list) if they are willing to let Add-on Updater update SPL add-on, to which users said “yes”. Thus the advisory below:

 

Starting from StationPlaylist add-on 18.08.2 (to be released tomorrow), SPL add-on will rely on Add-on Updater to check for add-on updates if Add-on Updater is installed. This will affect everyone using more recent versions of the add-on (development snapshots included). Also, Add-on Updater will be updated to check for SPL add-on updates, using “update channel” key found in SPL add-on’s manifest file to determine which channel to use.

 

In case you’re using SPL add-on development snapshots, this change will take place tonight when I release August 25th snapshot build. In order to receive future updates, you’ll either need to download future snapshots manually from NVDA Community Add-ons website or install the next release of Add-on Updater that’ll let you switch to development channel for some add-ons.

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: downloding MP3 FILES

Kerryn Gunness <k_gunness@...>
 


thank u deen, brian and others
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] downloding MP3 FILES

If you want to turn YouTube videos into MP3 files, then you want a free program called Pontes Media Downloader.  The act of downloading MP3 files found on a standard web page is not influenced by the screen reader.  It can, as I understand, be slightly affected by the choice of browser.  I use Chrome, but for any browser, the most predictable way to download an mp3 file is to focus on the link, hit the application key, and choose the relevant action, whose name varies from browser to browser.  In Chrome, it is Save Link As, in Internet Explorer, Save Target As. 

 

Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 2:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] downloding MP3 FILES

 

youtube

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 1:53 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] downloding MP3 FILES

 

From which source are you downloading from?

 

 

From: Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
Sent: 24 August 2018 18:44
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] downloding MP3 FILES

 

hi group

which is the best and most accessible program for windows pc to downlode mp3 files using NVDA?

thank u

 

kerryn

 


Re: Windows 10 and email

Kwork
 

Oo, nice. Thanks for alerting about this one. Got it.

On 8/23/2018 8:09 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 10:46 AM, Gene wrote:
Also, there is an add on, I believe it's a Thunderbird add-on, that allows first letter navigation in the folders list.
There is, and I routinely install it for all of my blind or vision impaired clients who choose Thunderbird.  I posted about it, at length, here:

                     https://jfw.groups.io/g/main/message/59771 

and on the NVDA group, too.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: Windows 10 and email

Kwork
 

That's my backup. When all else fails, I have GMail's basic html to fall back on. :)

On 8/23/2018 8:08 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I use gmail.com and the basic html view. Works here. I don’t use nor like any email programs on windows.

Take care

On 23 Aug 2018, at 0:33, Kwork wrote:

I imagine I'll get more than one opinion here, but what do people use in Windows 10 for email? Other questions would include, accessible out of the box, and if not, what needs to happen, additional tweaks, apps, etc. Thanks for any help!


Re: Windows 10 and email

Kwork
 

I did try to use the native Mail app, but couldn't hear anything from NVDA, and it was freezing things during the setup, so gave up and grabbed TBird.

On 8/23/2018 7:38 AM, Ervin, Glenn wrote:
I haven't been happy with Thunderbird on my windows 7 computer, it seemed too much, I just wanted something like Outlook Express, so when I set up a client's computer to use OE, and the windows 10 update removed it on its own, I set his computer to use the default windows mail program.
It is pretty good, but it seems much less configurable than OE.
For example, I could not find a way to change the order of messages to have the newest at the bottom.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 5:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 and email

I use thunderbird 60.

If you want something thats fully accessible and need addons 52.9.1 is the last version of thunderbird that mozilla has before it switched over to the 60x and higher series.

One word of warning though, according to the main thunderbird website that version is never going to get updated again so its going to eventually probably expire probably.

If you don't need addons at all, then the quantom interface for thunderbird works well enough as long as you set messages to open in the same window and turn off tabbed brousing in settings as well as set the home page to inbox.

You may or may not need sighted help to turn off the lightning addon for calendar.

Last time I set it up it did itself.



On 8/23/2018 7:33 PM, Kwork wrote:
I imagine I'll get more than one opinion here, but what do people use
in Windows 10 for email? Other questions would include, accessible out
of the box, and if not, what needs to happen, additional tweaks, apps,
etc. Thanks for any help!






Re: Windows 10 and email

Kwork
 

And I chose to go with this. Since I updated to Win 10, I decided to just try with the latest first, then go back if needed. Time will tell. So far so good. At least the keyboard commands I needed immediately are classic enough so far. NVDA seems to speak everything so far.

Travis

On 8/23/2018 3:03 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
I use thunderbird 60.

If you want something thats fully accessible and need addons 52.9.1 is the last version of thunderbird that mozilla has before it switched over to the 60x and higher series.

One word of warning though, according to the main thunderbird website that version is never going to get updated again so its going to eventually probably expire probably.

If you don't need addons at all, then the quantom interface for thunderbird works well enough as long as you set messages to open in the same window and turn off tabbed brousing in settings as well as set the home page to inbox.

You may or may not need sighted help to turn off the lightning addon for calendar.

Last time I set it up it did itself.



On 8/23/2018 7:33 PM, Kwork wrote:
I imagine I'll get more than one opinion here, but what do people use in
Windows 10 for email? Other questions would include, accessible out of the
box, and if not, what needs to happen, additional tweaks, apps, etc. Thanks
for any help!




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Re: downloding MP3 FILES

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

If you want to turn YouTube videos into MP3 files, then you want a free program called Pontes Media Downloader.  The act of downloading MP3 files found on a standard web page is not influenced by the screen reader.  It can, as I understand, be slightly affected by the choice of browser.  I use Chrome, but for any browser, the most predictable way to download an mp3 file is to focus on the link, hit the application key, and choose the relevant action, whose name varies from browser to browser.  In Chrome, it is Save Link As, in Internet Explorer, Save Target As. 

 

Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 2:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] downloding MP3 FILES

 

youtube

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 1:53 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] downloding MP3 FILES

 

From which source are you downloading from?

 

 

From: Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
Sent: 24 August 2018 18:44
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] downloding MP3 FILES

 

hi group

which is the best and most accessible program for windows pc to downlode mp3 files using NVDA?

thank u

 

kerryn

 


Re: ZoomText problem

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

From the sound of it, you need a soomtext list. This is an nvda list!

I would imagine from your description that something has upset something in windows, but if their tech cannot fix it, it is unlikely anyone here can either as most of us have never used it.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Silvermintz" <silvermintz@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 8:55 PM
Subject: [nvda] ZoomText problem


I've been using ZoomText for many years.

Because NVDA has an amazingly good Punctuation Symbols Dictionary, a few
weeks ago I started using it as my reader, with ZoomText 9.1
Reader-Magnifier with speech turned-off for doing the magnification. Symbol
pronounciation control is really helpful when reading and writing computer
program code.

My Computer: Win7-64

Problem:

Now after everything is working fine for a few weeks, switching back and
forth between NVDA reader and ZoomText reader, I notice that when using
ZoomText's reader the ZoomText say sentence (SentenceNav) commands no longer
work, and the say paragraph commands (control-up and control-down) work
erratically. This may not be related to NVDA since the problem is present
even when NVDA is either not running or is in sleep mode. I have tried
rebooting the computer multiple times without NVDA activated. With the help
of the ZT tech support rep, we also tried reinstalling ZT and the problem
persists.

Please suggest how to get ZT working correctly again, regardless if the
problem is related to NVDA.

Thanks --Larry




Re: downloding MP3 FILES

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I don't get the question. I use the normal downloader in the browser just like downloading any file.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io" <k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 6:44 PM
Subject: [nvda] downloding MP3 FILES


hi group
which is the best and most accessible program for windows pc to downlode mp3 files using NVDA?
thank u

kerryn


ZoomText problem

Larry Silvermintz <silvermintz@...>
 

I’ve been using ZoomText for many years.  

Because NVDA has an amazingly good Punctuation Symbols Dictionary,  a few weeks ago I started using it as my reader, with ZoomText 9.1 Reader-Magnifier with speech turned-off for doing the magnification.  Symbol pronounciation control is really helpful when reading and writing computer program code.

My Computer:  Win7-64

Problem:

Now after everything is working fine for a few weeks, switching back and forth between NVDA reader and ZoomText reader, I notice that when using ZoomText’s reader the ZoomText say sentence (SentenceNav) commands no longer work, and the say paragraph commands (control-up and control-down) work erratically.  This may not be related to NVDA since the problem is present even when NVDA is either not running or is in sleep mode.  I have tried rebooting the computer multiple times without NVDA activated.  With the help of the ZT tech support rep, we also tried reinstalling ZT and the problem persists.  

Please suggest how to get ZT working correctly again, regardless if the problem is related to NVDA.

Thanks --Larry


Re: Beeping paragraphs

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


I am wondering if it is the following under the documentation formatting menu in NVDA. Look for Line indentation reporting: Off  then turn it to off.

it sounds like it could be set to beeps? there is another option there for speech. Just put them to off it is a combo box.


I do not think it is spelling errors where you get a buzz sound if that was the case under the same section turn off reporting of spelling areas. There was another section which skips my mind at present but am guessing it is the first option given.


Gene nz




On 8/25/2018 7:28 AM, Larry Silvermintz wrote:

Please help figure out why this sound happens and how to stop it:  Whenever I move to the next/previous paragraph, a brief low-pitch tone is made before reading the paragraph.

This is with the Miscellaneous --> move to next/previous paragraph navigation commands.  This happens both in Microsoft Word and WordPad.  I have tried different input gestures, such as control-up/control-down and control-alt-shift-up/down

 



Beeping paragraphs

Larry Silvermintz <silvermintz@...>
 

Please help figure out why this sound happens and how to stop it:  Whenever I move to the next/previous paragraph, a brief low-pitch tone is made before reading the paragraph.

This is with the Miscellaneous --> move to next/previous paragraph navigation commands.  This happens both in Microsoft Word and WordPad.  I have tried different input gestures, such as control-up/control-down and control-alt-shift-up/down

 


Re: adding windows Core voices in other languages

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Not all languages have a speech pack.


If you check out my tutorial for installing windows one core voice at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20windows%2010.html

When you are on the page jump down by headins until you get to that section. It is in written format and there is a audio tutorial if i remember right.


Gene nz



On 8/25/2018 1:23 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:

I would like to add Latin American Spanish and European French voices to the repertoire of Windows Core voices on my system.  I seem to be missing a step.  I add a language on the region and language settings page, and the language pack is downloaded.  When I go into Options for that language, I see keyboard options but not a speech option to download voices.  Can anybody fill in the step I’m missing?

 

Dean

 



Re: downloding MP3 FILES

Kerryn Gunness <k_gunness@...>
 


youtube
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] downloding MP3 FILES

From which source are you downloading from?

 

 

From: Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
Sent: 24 August 2018 18:44
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] downloding MP3 FILES

 

hi group

which is the best and most accessible program for windows pc to downlode mp3 files using NVDA?

thank u

 

kerryn

 


Re: downloding MP3 FILES

Gene
 

Are you asking about a program to download from somewhere like Youtube?
 
Gene

Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 12:44 PM
Subject: [nvda] downloding MP3 FILES

hi group
which is the best and most accessible program for windows pc to downlode mp3 files using NVDA?
thank u
 
kerryn


Re: \Re: Windows 10 and email

Gene
 

I wonder if Outlook Express Classic, I believe it's called has identities.  I believe that's the name of the program that simulates Outlook Express but has accessibility problems, which the developers are, evidently, slowly working on.
 
Gene 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] \Re: Windows 10 and email

On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 06:21 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
still has identities
What does?   This was an abandoned feature, and abandoned long ago.   

I don't know of a single e-mail client that supports identities in the way that OE implemented them, and since they never gained widespread popularity, I doubt they'll be making a comeback.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: downloding MP3 FILES

Chris
 

From which source are you downloading from?

 

 

From: Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
Sent: 24 August 2018 18:44
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] downloding MP3 FILES

 

hi group

which is the best and most accessible program for windows pc to downlode mp3 files using NVDA?

thank u

 

kerryn

 


downloding MP3 FILES

Kerryn Gunness <k_gunness@...>
 

hi group
which is the best and most accessible program for windows pc to downlode mp3 files using NVDA?
thank u
 
kerryn