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Re: help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Carlos
 

Hello:

    Okay!  I have read many of your messages on the list about how a disk re-format makes it all good again!

    Can you please explain to all of us who are totally blind how to Re-format the hard disk without sighted assistance?

    If you can't give specific instructions on the process? Then, don't talk about doing things that require sighted assistance on a list which focuses on how blind users can get things done without sighted help which is not always available!!!

    It's always helpful to give specific instructions on doing tasks.  rather than just throwing stuff out there without explaining how its done!

    Hopefully this list will go back to being a knowledge base instead of just conjecture!!!

On 4/18/2018 11:59 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
It depends why your system is slow and the age it is.

Its true, a good reformat will always make all your problems go away, but if your hardware is ancient or on the edge of being made compatible with the next os or is harder to replace etc, etc, etc then you need a new computer.

Oh and if security is a concern.

But on the other side, your 3-5 year old unit  especially if its before 2015 may be covered by general windows drivers and you may never need extras in the first place.




On 19/04/2018 3:29 a.m., Ervin, Glenn wrote:
I have seen many folks get a new computer because their old one is now slow.
They forget how fast it was when they first got it.
One can boot up to WinPE or use Linux to copy out the files if Windows does not allow them to copy out certain files from the user's folder.
Or if one is organized and knows where the critical keeper files are, just copy them out, and if one's eMail is on the server, the computer can be restored to a brand-new state and just put the files back.
No need to get a new computer, or new OS.
Glenn

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Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

I'd not say 7 is slow. I think we need to know if its always been slow or has slowed, and then discuss why. In my experience when i did dip my toe in the 10 water, a machine which was slow on xp or 7 was equally slow on 10!
  Not always of course, but it depends on the reason for the slowness, ie processor throttling lack of ram or hard disc fragmentation. often fitting an ssd in a machine seems to miraculously speed it up!
  Brian

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Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 6:10 PM
Subject: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!


Hi,
I have a windows 7 laptop, with both Jaws 16, and NVDA 2018.1.1 on it
This morning, when I booted the system, I got a message in the corner of my
screen, which said, "get windows 10" so I clicked it, and supposedly,
reserved my copy.
note: at that time, I wasn't connected to wifi, but apparently it still
worked.
I wish I could get that balloon back, now that I'm connected just to make
sure.
Windows 7 is very slow.

What can I do?
Sorry for cross-posting but I felt that was best, since I have both
screen-readers installed, although, Jaws is unlicensed.

Thanks for any help you can provide.



Thanks,
Jessica










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Re: Dragging and Dropping with NVDA

Giles Turnbull
 

for clarification of why I need to drag and drop, it is a means of removing DRM from iTunes films so I'll be able to convert them to mp3 and then play them on my Blaze book reader. I only have iTunes on my laptop which is too heavy to cart around with me. My alternative is to use Virtual Recorder to record iTunes playing the film as an mp3, but that means playing the whole episode through at 1x speed. Being able to de-DRM them and convert them in a fraction of the time would be a huge help.

I have the complete X-Files series 5 and was pondering geting all the other X-Files series (yeah, I'm a bit nerdy!) but I don't fancy doing that if I can't convert the audio to mp3.

Thanks for these drag and drop ideas and see how I get on :)


Re: Accessible Screen Recording Software

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I'm assuming the one built into windows 10 on a hot key is not accessible then?
I'm not sure how you get it but it seems to be known about by sighted friends as undocumented but in place.
Brian

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Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 10:27 PM
Subject: [nvda] Accessible Screen Recording Software


Dear all,
For a certain purpose, I am in need of an accessible screen capturing
and recording software for my Windows 8.1 powered laptop. According to
my preliminary research, some recommended accessible programs for this
purpose include Camtasia, Open Broadcasting Software and WebInAria. I
have perfunctorily read about or tried each of these software and
following is a summary of my present knowledge:
Camtasia: I have installed the huge software’s free trial for now. I
seem unable to find any self-explanatorily worded option to start a
screen recording, am just Tabbing around the interface through the
different options and some unlabelled toggle buttons, and am uncertain
as to how I should proceed from this point.
Open Broadcasting Software: I have seen a blind individual
recommending OBS Classic, which fork of this software is now
deprecated according to the developer’s website. Should I still try
out OBS Classic, or is the newer OBS studio accessible?
WebInAria: This software seems to have no dedicated website of its
own, the number and quality of ratings it has received on software
hosting sites are low, and it seems like this program hasn’t been
updated in several years now.
I would deeply appreciate it if you could either shed some light on
the above-mentioned software, or alternatively suggest other
accessible screen capturing and recording software that are usable
with a screen reader, especially NVDA.
Thanks.

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Re: Google docs and NVDA and Chrome

Jason White
 

Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@gmail.com> wrote:

Any other ideas? Does the doc have to be formatted in a certain way to
make it accessible?
No. I just tried it here with NVDA 2018.1.1 and Chrome 65 - it all worked as
expected.


Re: help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

 

It depends why your system is slow and the age it is.

Its true, a good reformat will always make all your problems go away, but if your hardware is ancient or on the edge of being made compatible with the next os or is harder to replace etc, etc, etc then you need a new computer.

Oh and if security is a concern.

But on the other side, your 3-5 year old unit  especially if its before 2015 may be covered by general windows drivers and you may never need extras in the first place.

On 19/04/2018 3:29 a.m., Ervin, Glenn wrote:
I have seen many folks get a new computer because their old one is now slow.
They forget how fast it was when they first got it.
One can boot up to WinPE or use Linux to copy out the files if Windows does not allow them to copy out certain files from the user's folder.
Or if one is organized and knows where the critical keeper files are, just copy them out, and if one's eMail is on the server, the computer can be restored to a brand-new state and just put the files back.
No need to get a new computer, or new OS.
Glenn

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Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

I'd not say 7 is slow. I think we need to know if its always been slow or has slowed, and then discuss why. In my experience when i did dip my toe in the 10 water, a machine which was slow on xp or 7 was equally slow on 10!
Not always of course, but it depends on the reason for the slowness, ie processor throttling lack of ram or hard disc fragmentation. often fitting an ssd in a machine seems to miraculously speed it up!
Brian

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Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 6:10 PM
Subject: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!


Hi,
I have a windows 7 laptop, with both Jaws 16, and NVDA 2018.1.1 on it
This morning, when I booted the system, I got a message in the corner of my
screen, which said, "get windows 10" so I clicked it, and supposedly,
reserved my copy.
note: at that time, I wasn't connected to wifi, but apparently it still
worked.
I wish I could get that balloon back, now that I'm connected just to make
sure.
Windows 7 is very slow.

What can I do?
Sorry for cross-posting but I felt that was best, since I have both
screen-readers installed, although, Jaws is unlicensed.

Thanks for any help you can provide.



Thanks,
Jessica









.


Re: help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Ervin, Glenn
 

Something else that I forgot to mention in my original post on this, regarding the speed of a computer, is that many programs install start-up items which remain in memory while you are using the computer.

For example, Office loads itself up on start-up, and if one is not opening Office programs often, there is no need to have it loading up on start-up.

I usually go into people’s MsConfig file, if they are reporting a slow computer, and turn off all the programs except the essential ones, like their anti-virus program, their screenreader, and brand-specific drivers that the computer might need, such as Dell Audio or whatever.

Adobe updater is one I usually turn off, and anything having to do with Adobe on start-up.

 

To run MsConfig, at the run window, type in msconfig and press enter.

You can control + tab to the startup tab and use your space bar to uncheck items.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 1:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

 

It's a contraversial issue but I subscribe to the view that registry cleaners should generally not be used unless a problem is caused by a problem in the registry.  See this article for one knowledgeable computer tech's comments on the question.

 

Also, it appears to me that using something like the CCleaner registry cleaner on the least aggressive setting may not pose much risk of problems, but I don't believe in taking even small risks without any expectation of benefit. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Ervin, Glenn

Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 1:08 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

 

I have used registry cleaners for many years, and my computers have never experienced any ill effects that I could attribute to the registry.

I think that registry cleaners are the “whipping boy” for folks who have no solution for people’s computer problems, so they blame the registry software.

I used to use PC Tools Registry Mechanic many years ago, and it got integrated into another software package.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

 

I beg to differ, and strenuously, about registry cleaners.  IT professionals do not approve of their use and they're generally viewed as snake oil, or worse.

Microsoft, Malwarebytes, and BleepingComputer.com don't recommend registry cleaners.

 

See: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/373006/registry-cleaners/

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Re: NVDA Next 15037, Win 7 64 Bit, Firefox 64 Bit 59.0.2: browser gets stuck when loading larger websites

Simon Eigeldinger
 

i guess its not a processor power issue.
its more the issue of the browser or the screenreader.
it can't be that the processor runs at 100% when the browser runs on most sites.
a small page with just a few lines of html doesn't make the whole thing come down but for example the youtube site or other sites do.
so in my opinion we can't have that and this should be investigated much further.

Am 18.04.2018 um 20:41 schrieb Shaun Everiss:
Well later programs need more guts.
Win10 recomends at least 4th gen though it will run lower.
But an i3 first gen mobile class is a bit of a joke.
A 3rd gen i7 with ssd is not, but 4th gen fresh install runs a little faster than that.
On 18/04/2018 2:05 a.m., Eigeldinger Simon wrote:
It even doesn't let me that in firefox 59 64 bit on win 7 pro 64 bit.


Greetings,
Simon

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All Firefox versions are sluggish these days, but the new ones seem to be
far worse in this respect on certain web sites.
  One gets the impression it s not going to let you do anything till its
loaded, whereas earlier versions allowed you to do stuff before it hade
completely finished loading.
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Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Next 15037, Win 7 64 Bit, Firefox 64 Bit 59.0.2:
browser gets stuck when loading larger websites


I've notest this as well, with netflix, and youtube.

For me just going to youtube.com in firefox, it seems like it takes 1
minit for it to come up.

Then again, it could be my laptop.


On 4/16/2018 9:06 AM, Eigeldinger Simon wrote:
Hi all,

I just saw this issue still exists:

Win 7 Pro 64 Bit

NVDA Next 15037

Firefox 59.0.2 64 Bit

Many larger websites are getting stuck and the browser doesn't respond.

Anyone has seen that still happening?

An example page is for example the Heise Online Newsticker, which is a
computer magazine:

https://www.heise.de/newsticker/

I actually thought this bug has been resolved?

Greetings and thanks,

Simon






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Re: help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Gene
 

It's a contraversial issue but I subscribe to the view that registry cleaners should generally not be used unless a problem is caused by a problem in the registry.  See this article for one knowledgeable computer tech's comments on the question.
 
Also, it appears to me that using something like the CCleaner registry cleaner on the least aggressive setting may not pose much risk of problems, but I don't believe in taking even small risks without any expectation of benefit. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

I have used registry cleaners for many years, and my computers have never experienced any ill effects that I could attribute to the registry.

I think that registry cleaners are the “whipping boy” for folks who have no solution for people’s computer problems, so they blame the registry software.

I used to use PC Tools Registry Mechanic many years ago, and it got integrated into another software package.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

 

I beg to differ, and strenuously, about registry cleaners.  IT professionals do not approve of their use and they're generally viewed as snake oil, or worse.

Microsoft, Malwarebytes, and BleepingComputer.com don't recommend registry cleaners.

 

See: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/373006/registry-cleaners/

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Re: NVDA Next 15037, Win 7 64 Bit, Firefox 64 Bit 59.0.2: browser gets stuck when loading larger websites

 

Well later programs need more guts.

Win10 recomends at least 4th gen though it will run lower.

But an i3 first gen mobile class is a bit of a joke.

A 3rd gen i7 with ssd is not, but 4th gen fresh install runs a little faster than that.

On 18/04/2018 2:05 a.m., Eigeldinger Simon wrote:
It even doesn't let me that in firefox 59 64 bit on win 7 pro 64 bit.


Greetings,
Simon

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An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] NVDA Next 15037, Win 7 64 Bit, Firefox 64 Bit 59.0.2: browser gets stuck when loading larger websites

All Firefox versions are sluggish these days, but the new ones seem to be
far worse in this respect on certain web sites.
One gets the impression it s not going to let you do anything till its
loaded, whereas earlier versions allowed you to do stuff before it hade
completely finished loading.
brian

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From: "Matt Turner" <meturner2214@gmail.com>
To: "NVDA" <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Next 15037, Win 7 64 Bit, Firefox 64 Bit 59.0.2:
browser gets stuck when loading larger websites


I've notest this as well, with netflix, and youtube.

For me just going to youtube.com in firefox, it seems like it takes 1
minit for it to come up.

Then again, it could be my laptop.


On 4/16/2018 9:06 AM, Eigeldinger Simon wrote:
Hi all,

I just saw this issue still exists:

Win 7 Pro 64 Bit

NVDA Next 15037

Firefox 59.0.2 64 Bit

Many larger websites are getting stuck and the browser doesn't respond.

Anyone has seen that still happening?

An example page is for example the Heise Online Newsticker, which is a
computer magazine:

https://www.heise.de/newsticker/

I actually thought this bug has been resolved?

Greetings and thanks,

Simon





.


Re: help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Ervin, Glenn
 

I think that the biggest problem with registry cleaners is that people use the so-called free ones.

There’s no such thing as a free lunch as they say.

I think that a lot of freeware programs inject malware and scareware into your system.

Usually the only free programs I download are from SourceForge.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

 

I beg to differ, and strenuously, about registry cleaners.  IT professionals do not approve of their use and they're generally viewed as snake oil, or worse.

Microsoft, Malwarebytes, and BleepingComputer.com don't recommend registry cleaners.

 

See: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/373006/registry-cleaners/

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Re: Dragging and Dropping with NVDA

Brian Moore
 

Hi.  I have never been able to do this consistantly in thunderbird.

What is this add on called.  Must get it.

On 04/18/2018 2:05 PM, Annette Moore wrote:
I have that addon, but I didn't know you could just hit nvda+h to rearrange the columns in thunderbird. Maybe it's a good thing I didn't know, though, and learned how to drag and drop because now I know how to do it the hard way--kind of like learning how to do a math problem the long way, then being told you can use the calculator. (smile).

Annette


On 4/18/2018 3:21 AM, Ishe Chinyoka wrote:
Thanks. This addon has made my Thunderbird highly customisable: with a
simple NVDA+H, you can rearrange columns in the message list pane. It
also has other convenient shortcut keys to quickly jump to message
fields while reading. This is indeed a cool addon.



Ron Canazzi:
The NVDA add on you want is called Mozilla Apps Enhancements.



On 4/17/2018 10:19 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
If there is an add-on I would appreciate it if someone would name it.

What was last discussed, when I checked it out, did not include
anything related to reordering the column display order that I could
find.

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Re: help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Ervin, Glenn
 

I have used registry cleaners for many years, and my computers have never experienced any ill effects that I could attribute to the registry.

I think that registry cleaners are the “whipping boy” for folks who have no solution for people’s computer problems, so they blame the registry software.

I used to use PC Tools Registry Mechanic many years ago, and it got integrated into another software package.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

 

I beg to differ, and strenuously, about registry cleaners.  IT professionals do not approve of their use and they're generally viewed as snake oil, or worse.

Microsoft, Malwarebytes, and BleepingComputer.com don't recommend registry cleaners.

 

See: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/373006/registry-cleaners/

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     The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement.  But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.

            Niels Bohr

 

 


Re: Dragging and Dropping with NVDA

Annette Moore
 

I have that addon, but I didn't know you could just hit nvda+h to rearrange the columns in thunderbird. Maybe it's a good thing I didn't know, though, and learned how to drag and drop because now I know how to do it the hard way--kind of like learning how to do a math problem the long way, then being told you can use the calculator. (smile).

Annette

On 4/18/2018 3:21 AM, Ishe Chinyoka wrote:
Thanks. This addon has made my Thunderbird highly customisable: with a
simple NVDA+H, you can rearrange columns in the message list pane. It
also has other convenient shortcut keys to quickly jump to message
fields while reading. This is indeed a cool addon.



Ron Canazzi:
The NVDA add on you want is called Mozilla Apps Enhancements.



On 4/17/2018 10:19 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
If there is an add-on I would appreciate it if someone would name it.

What was last discussed, when I checked it out, did not include
anything related to reordering the column display order that I could
find.

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level on request - it changes too often to keep in signature)

*/     /**/The opposite of a correct statement is a false
statement./**/  But the opposite of a profound truth may well be
another/**/ profound truth./*

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latest version of Next with Excel is extremely slow

 

Hello folks:

I was just trying to use Excel in Office 365, latest version. I'm using the most recent Next snapshot with NVDA. Cell navigation is extremely slow. It is not at all snappy in moving up and down or left in right in the spreadsheet. I thought I recall seeing something about this.


Any ideas as to what the issue or issues might be? Any help with this one would be appreciated.


Re: help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

 

I beg to differ, and strenuously, about registry cleaners.  IT professionals do not approve of their use and they're generally viewed as snake oil, or worse.

Microsoft, Malwarebytes, and BleepingComputer.com don't recommend registry cleaners.

 

See: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/373006/registry-cleaners/

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     The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement.  But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.

            Niels Bohr

 

 


Re: help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Ervin, Glenn
 

Gene,

Registries doo keep information, even after uninstalling a program.

I use Registry First Aid, a paid program and it has a lot of good reviews, I researched it before purchasing it.

I cannot speak to Windows 10, but in 7, the registry still gets bloated after a while of installing programs.

I have noticed much improvement after installing and running it, and it fixed some annoyances that occurred after I copied the disk as an image and restored it to another drive, so registry cleaners can do a lot of good.

For example, it found traces of programs that had not been installed for a long time.

 

Glenn

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

 

I question this information about the registry, at least in newer versions of Windows and with reasonably fast systems.  for one thing, the registry doesn't just accumulate and keep information.  When you install programs and then uninstall them, using add/remove programs, registry entries are usually left from the program.  I don't know what is available for Windows 10 that is accessible, but there are third party unstallers that will remove the registry entries when you uninstall a program.  Also, I think you would have to install and uninstall a lot more programs than a lot of people do to notice any difference in speed.

 

As far as junk accumulating in other places, why can't this be removed by utilities such as the Windows disk cleanup or some third party utility that may remove more.  I don't know enough to compare if there are any significant differences. 

 

I use computers for years and don't have slower performance.  So I question these sorts of broad, unqualified, generalizations.

 

But that wasn't the question.  The question is how an over the top installation can delete everything.  As far as I know, during a Windows 10 upgrade, you are given a choice if you want to keep programs or not.  I don't know when this choice is offered.  But a lot of people upgrade to Windows 10 and keep their programs.

 

Gene

------ Original Message -----

From: Ervin, Glenn

Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 11:37 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

 

Hi Jessica,

One problem is that after a while, the registry gets bloated with information that it needs for all the programs installed, and Windows needs to cache the registry for information when it loads a program, and as the registry gets bigger and bigger, it takes longer to find the information, and that is why it slows down.

When you installed Windows 10, it needed to put in a new registry.

The new registry would have pulled in some of the old information so you can still use the old programs.

I learned that Office 2000 does not work on 10, as I had installed it on a friend’s 7 and it works fine on that, but when he had someone do the free upgrade to 10 before the first of the year, we found that his outlook no longer works.

I don’t know if Windows 10 will allow a clean install of Office 2000 though.

I use 2000 at home, and it does all I need it to do, I just installed Microsoft’s compatibility utility which allows me to access new Office files.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 11:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

 

Hi,

I now have win10, and love it

My pc is very fast now 

But, I still don't understand, how doing an overtop install, can literally delete everything. 

I never told it to do that. 

At least, I never heard "seeing AI" mention it. 

 

 

Thanks,

Jessica

 


On Apr 18, 2018, at 12:08 PM, Ervin, Glenn <glenn.ervin@...> wrote:

Absolutely.

Also, the bit about having to make sure all the programs are available for reinstalling, well this will be the case if someone gets a new computer as well, so no extra draw-backs there, and one will want to save their critical data anyway, if they are getting a new computer, so there again, no more work, just a clean install of the OS is in order.

I put an SSD on one of my computers, and I do enjoy the speedier boot-up, but one thing to keep in mind is that we lose the ability to know via sound if the computer is booting or not when we switch to a solid state drive.

Glenn

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 10:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

 

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 08:29 am, Ervin, Glenn wrote:

I have seen many folks get a new computer because their old one is now slow.

Glenn,

            You are entirely correct that a very great many systems become sluggish because of the long collection of garbage in all sorts of locations over time.  This can almost always be cured by doing a completely clean installation of whatever operating system it is that you have been using on that machine.

            This is not, of course, a trivial undertaking since you will need to back up all your user data and also make sure that all programs you routinely use are available for reinstallation either with the original media you got when you bought them or via download.  Then you've got to reconfigure your system settings, upload all that user data, and get all those programs installed again.

             Another thing that can add an awful lot of additional speed to a system is changing out the conventional hard disk drive for a solid state drive.  If the drive on your system is not huge the price of SSDs is dropping enough these days that this is an excellent way of getting a significant additional performance boost as well.
 
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Re: help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Gene
 

I question this information about the registry, at least in newer versions of Windows and with reasonably fast systems.  for one thing, the registry doesn't just accumulate and keep information.  When you install programs and then uninstall them, using add/remove programs, registry entries are usually left from the program.  I don't know what is available for Windows 10 that is accessible, but there are third party unstallers that will remove the registry entries when you uninstall a program.  Also, I think you would have to install and uninstall a lot more programs than a lot of people do to notice any difference in speed.
 
As far as junk accumulating in other places, why can't this be removed by utilities such as the Windows disk cleanup or some third party utility that may remove more.  I don't know enough to compare if there are any significant differences. 
 
I use computers for years and don't have slower performance.  So I question these sorts of broad, unqualified, generalizations.
 
But that wasn't the question.  The question is how an over the top installation can delete everything.  As far as I know, during a Windows 10 upgrade, you are given a choice if you want to keep programs or not.  I don't know when this choice is offered.  But a lot of people upgrade to Windows 10 and keep their programs.
 
Gene

------ Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Hi Jessica,

One problem is that after a while, the registry gets bloated with information that it needs for all the programs installed, and Windows needs to cache the registry for information when it loads a program, and as the registry gets bigger and bigger, it takes longer to find the information, and that is why it slows down.

When you installed Windows 10, it needed to put in a new registry.

The new registry would have pulled in some of the old information so you can still use the old programs.

I learned that Office 2000 does not work on 10, as I had installed it on a friend’s 7 and it works fine on that, but when he had someone do the free upgrade to 10 before the first of the year, we found that his outlook no longer works.

I don’t know if Windows 10 will allow a clean install of Office 2000 though.

I use 2000 at home, and it does all I need it to do, I just installed Microsoft’s compatibility utility which allows me to access new Office files.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 11:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

 

Hi,

I now have win10, and love it

My pc is very fast now 

But, I still don't understand, how doing an overtop install, can literally delete everything. 

I never told it to do that. 

At least, I never heard "seeing AI" mention it. 

 

 

Thanks,

Jessica

 


On Apr 18, 2018, at 12:08 PM, Ervin, Glenn <glenn.ervin@...> wrote:

Absolutely.

Also, the bit about having to make sure all the programs are available for reinstalling, well this will be the case if someone gets a new computer as well, so no extra draw-backs there, and one will want to save their critical data anyway, if they are getting a new computer, so there again, no more work, just a clean install of the OS is in order.

I put an SSD on one of my computers, and I do enjoy the speedier boot-up, but one thing to keep in mind is that we lose the ability to know via sound if the computer is booting or not when we switch to a solid state drive.

Glenn

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 10:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

 

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 08:29 am, Ervin, Glenn wrote:

I have seen many folks get a new computer because their old one is now slow.

Glenn,

            You are entirely correct that a very great many systems become sluggish because of the long collection of garbage in all sorts of locations over time.  This can almost always be cured by doing a completely clean installation of whatever operating system it is that you have been using on that machine.

            This is not, of course, a trivial undertaking since you will need to back up all your user data and also make sure that all programs you routinely use are available for reinstallation either with the original media you got when you bought them or via download.  Then you've got to reconfigure your system settings, upload all that user data, and get all those programs installed again.

             Another thing that can add an awful lot of additional speed to a system is changing out the conventional hard disk drive for a solid state drive.  If the drive on your system is not huge the price of SSDs is dropping enough these days that this is an excellent way of getting a significant additional performance boost as well.
 
--
Brian  Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1709, Build 16299  (dot level on request - it changes too often to keep in signature)

     The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement.  But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.

            Niels Bohr

 

 


Re: Problem with Firefox

 

Arnthor,

           In Windows 10, many of the in-browser options for setting them as your default browser don't work, and I suspect that's what's occurred here.  If you wish to set your default browser it is better to do so via Settings, Apps & Features, Default apps pane, Web browser item.  That item should give you a dropdown list that includes all web browsers that are installed on your system and allow you to choose whichever you'd like to have come up when a link needs to be passed to a browser, such as from an e-mail message.

            After setting your default browser to Firefox, get into Firefox and open the main menu, choose the Options item, then choose the Search pane in the dialog that comes up.  Default Search Engine is included there and you'll get a dropdown that allows you to choose it.  I have yet to see Google not listed in the list of search engine options that come standard with Firefox.

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     The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement.  But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.

            Niels Bohr

 

 


Problem with Firefox

Arnþór Helgason
 

Last autumn some changes were made which lead to the following situation:

When I open Firefox I am asked if I would like to make it as my favourite browser. If I say yeas Microsot Edge is launched.


I am also entitled to search with Yahoo which is terrible as it doesn't recognise some of the Icelandic characters.


Is there any way out of this?

Now I need to open Google separately instead of having it as my favorite search when opening with Firefox.


Many thanks,


Arnthor


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Re: Google docs and NVDA and Chrome

Dan Beaver
 

Thank you for the info.


I tried using the ctrl+alt+z stroke and it said screen reader support enabled.  However, it still just says "about:".  My wife looked at the screen and it has other info on it but NVDA can't read it.


Any other ideas?  Does the doc have to be formatted in a certain way to make it accessible?


Dan Beaver


On 4/18/2018 12:01 PM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:

Hello Dan,

Google docs works fine with Chrome and NVDA.

You have to enable screen reader support in pressing ctrl+alt+Z.

Sylvie

Le 18/04/2018 à 17:35, Dan Beaver a écrit :

HI,


I have had a document shared with me but I can't seem to find a way to read it.  I can only hear the first line which says "About:".


Is it possible to access google docs with NVDA and Chrome?


Thanks.


Dan Beaver