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Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [nvda] NVDA Remote

Tyler Wood
 

Hi,

There is a toggle navigation button at the top of the page. Clicking it opens a menu right underneath which includes download.



On 27-Jun-2018 1:07 PM, Ervin, Glenn wrote:

Hi,

I have gone to this page before, there is no link to download it.

Only an NVDA link, and I’ve gone round and round with those links already.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tyler Wood
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 12:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [nvda] NVDA Remote

 

Hi,

http://www.nvdaremote.com

 

However I don't think it supports the new python, though I could be very wrong on this.

 

Hope that helps!

 

 

On 27-Jun-2018 12:56 PM, Ervin, Glenn wrote:

Well, today I ran home for lunch, and I set up my home computer with Windows 7 to connect to remote, to be controlled by another computer, and when I got back to the office, I tried with my main computer with Windows 7 to connect, and it could not.

So I tried with my little laptop that also has Windows 7, on the same work network, and it connected to my home computer, and I was able to control it and hear the work I was doing on it.

So I think that the problem is with my client’s NVDA, and that he should download and install a fresh copy of NVDA.

He might be able to do that part, but getting an add-on might be tricky, like the remote add-on.

I looked on-line for it, and I only found pages that explained how to use it, but no download links.

I can’t eMail it to him, because his eMail has problems, and that is why I am trying to remote in to his computer.

It would be nice if NVDA Remote came installed with NVDA.

His is a Windows 10, I don’t know if there is a cross-platform issue with the remote add-in.

Glenn

 

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Norfolk Nebraska

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Cell: 402 992 0325

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Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [nvda] NVDA Remote

Ervin, Glenn
 

Hi,

I have gone to this page before, there is no link to download it.

Only an NVDA link, and I’ve gone round and round with those links already.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tyler Wood
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 12:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [nvda] NVDA Remote

 

Hi,

http://www.nvdaremote.com

 

However I don't think it supports the new python, though I could be very wrong on this.

 

Hope that helps!

 

 

On 27-Jun-2018 12:56 PM, Ervin, Glenn wrote:

Well, today I ran home for lunch, and I set up my home computer with Windows 7 to connect to remote, to be controlled by another computer, and when I got back to the office, I tried with my main computer with Windows 7 to connect, and it could not.

So I tried with my little laptop that also has Windows 7, on the same work network, and it connected to my home computer, and I was able to control it and hear the work I was doing on it.

So I think that the problem is with my client’s NVDA, and that he should download and install a fresh copy of NVDA.

He might be able to do that part, but getting an add-on might be tricky, like the remote add-on.

I looked on-line for it, and I only found pages that explained how to use it, but no download links.

I can’t eMail it to him, because his eMail has problems, and that is why I am trying to remote in to his computer.

It would be nice if NVDA Remote came installed with NVDA.

His is a Windows 10, I don’t know if there is a cross-platform issue with the remote add-in.

Glenn

 

Glenn Ervin  Orientation Counselor II

Norfolk Nebraska

402 370 3436

Cell: 402 992 0325

Welcome | NCBVI

 

 


Re: NVDA Remote

Tyler Wood
 

Hi,

http://www.nvdaremote.com


However I don't think it supports the new python, though I could be very wrong on this.


Hope that helps!



On 27-Jun-2018 12:56 PM, Ervin, Glenn wrote:

Well, today I ran home for lunch, and I set up my home computer with Windows 7 to connect to remote, to be controlled by another computer, and when I got back to the office, I tried with my main computer with Windows 7 to connect, and it could not.

So I tried with my little laptop that also has Windows 7, on the same work network, and it connected to my home computer, and I was able to control it and hear the work I was doing on it.

So I think that the problem is with my client’s NVDA, and that he should download and install a fresh copy of NVDA.

He might be able to do that part, but getting an add-on might be tricky, like the remote add-on.

I looked on-line for it, and I only found pages that explained how to use it, but no download links.

I can’t eMail it to him, because his eMail has problems, and that is why I am trying to remote in to his computer.

It would be nice if NVDA Remote came installed with NVDA.

His is a Windows 10, I don’t know if there is a cross-platform issue with the remote add-in.

Glenn

 

Glenn Ervin  Orientation Counselor II

Norfolk Nebraska

402 370 3436

Cell: 402 992 0325

Welcome | NCBVI

 



Re: NVDA questions about voices from a new user

 

Hi,

David and Zira are SAPI5 (desktop) voices.

Regarding latency problem: yes, this exists in SAPI5, although it was mitigated somewhat in NVDA 2018.2.

Also, note that OneCore is only available in Windows 10.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 10:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA questions about voices from a new user

 

On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 10:30 am, Joseph Lee wrote:

The United States English voices for Windows OneCore should be David, Mark,
and Zira

Aren't those the SAPI 5 voices, or at least David and Zira are?     At the moment I'm using Richard, which is a One Core Voice, but my list now includes many more English voices with accents, both male and female.

If I switch back to the MS SAPI 5 synthesizer I have only David and Zira (US), and Hazel (UK).  I only get Mark in my list of One Core voices.
 
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NVDA Remote

Ervin, Glenn
 

Well, today I ran home for lunch, and I set up my home computer with Windows 7 to connect to remote, to be controlled by another computer, and when I got back to the office, I tried with my main computer with Windows 7 to connect, and it could not.

So I tried with my little laptop that also has Windows 7, on the same work network, and it connected to my home computer, and I was able to control it and hear the work I was doing on it.

So I think that the problem is with my client’s NVDA, and that he should download and install a fresh copy of NVDA.

He might be able to do that part, but getting an add-on might be tricky, like the remote add-on.

I looked on-line for it, and I only found pages that explained how to use it, but no download links.

I can’t eMail it to him, because his eMail has problems, and that is why I am trying to remote in to his computer.

It would be nice if NVDA Remote came installed with NVDA.

His is a Windows 10, I don’t know if there is a cross-platform issue with the remote add-in.

Glenn

 

Glenn Ervin  Orientation Counselor II

Norfolk Nebraska

402 370 3436

Cell: 402 992 0325

Welcome | NCBVI

 


Re: NVDA questions about voices from a new user

 

On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 10:30 am, Joseph Lee wrote:
The United States English voices for Windows OneCore should be David, Mark,
and Zira
Aren't those the SAPI 5 voices, or at least David and Zira are?     At the moment I'm using Richard, which is a One Core Voice, but my list now includes many more English voices with accents, both male and female.

If I switch back to the MS SAPI 5 synthesizer I have only David and Zira (US), and Hazel (UK).  I only get Mark in my list of One Core voices.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

          ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

 

 


Re: NVDA questions about voices from a new user

 

Hi,
The United States English voices for Windows OneCore should be David, Mark,
and Zira (there is an additional hidden voice used by Cortana).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Hudson
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 10:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA questions about voices from a new user

Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
            The first thing I'd suggest is changing your Synthesizer
to the Microsoft One Core Voices and try selecting from among those.  The
selection is wider and, if you elect to install any of a number of variants
on English (UK, Australia, Canada) in addition to US (and I'm presuming US
is your home country - tweak the prior list accordingly if it's not) you get
quite a few more.

I only have 2 US english voices. Is this all there is?
As an aside, are these voices SAPI compatible or some other interface.


Re: NVDA questions about voices from a new user

Rob Hudson
 

Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
The first thing I'd suggest is changing your Synthesizer to the Microsoft One Core Voices and try selecting from among those. The selection is wider and, if you elect to install any of a number of variants on English (UK, Australia, Canada) in addition to US (and I'm presuming US is your home country - tweak the prior list accordingly if it's not) you get quite a few more.
I only have 2 US english voices. Is this all there is?
As an aside, are these voices SAPI compatible or some other interface.


Re: NVDA questions about voices from a new user

 

Simon,

            The first thing I'd suggest is changing your Synthesizer to the Microsoft One Core Voices and try selecting from among those.  The selection is wider and, if you elect to install any of a number of variants on English (UK, Australia, Canada) in addition to US (and I'm presuming US is your home country - tweak the prior list accordingly if it's not) you get quite a few more.  You may find something/someone you like.

             I can't speak to latency issues with character and word echoing as I just don't pay that much attention to that in most cases.  It could be just as bad with One Core, but I don't know that for sure.

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NVDA questions about voices from a new user

Simon Wheatcroft <Moochoo@...>
 

Hi,

 

I am new to NVDA and windows, after being a MAc user for a number of years. I have 2 questions about NVDA and hope the community can help.

 

1. Latency, there appears to be a little latency when echoing characters and words. Especially when compared to the Mac. This is using the SAPI voices under NVDA. Is this typical?

 

2. Can anyone recommend a voice i can try or purchase that is similar in quality to Alex on the Mac? I enjoy the sound of this voice and would enjoy something of similar quality under windows that perhaps doesn’t have the latency issue as in question 1

 

Thanks

 

Simon


Re: IMPORTANT, quick responses required: any add-ons that are still not prepared for wxPython 4 besides Remote Support add-on?

Noelia Ruiz
 

Dear fellows, thanks for reporting these bugs. As always, I try to make add-ons compatible with master versions of NVDA, not with next snapshots, since Next can contain bledge code and may not be included in stable versions of NVDA. I take care of differences betweeen master and next periodically, trying to track important changes in NVDA code to do my best in add-ons maintainance. So, I will address this when these bugs affect to master versions of NVDA.
I am grateful for your reporting now. Thanks a lot.

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El 27 jun 2018, a las 17:46, Kostadin Kolev <k.kolev1985@...> escribió:

Hello Lukasz,

Yes, the issue is the same. I'll put a comment on the bug with a log file for reference.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev


На 27.6.2018 г. в 12:27, Lukasz Golonka написа:
Hi Kostadin,
I've recently opened https://github.com/nvdaes/emoticons/issues/11
I'm not sure if it is caused by wxPython 4 or not, but if it is and you
are experiencing the same problem you may want to commend on this issue.
Lukasz

On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 11:30:24 +0300
"Kostadin Kolev" <k.kolev1985@...> wrote:

Hello Joseph,

The add-ons I have seam to work OK under wxPython 4, except for Remote Access about which you already know. I have the following add-ons:

- Emoticons v7.0
- fakeClipboardAnouncement v1.0
- GoldWave v18.03
- Enhancement on poedit Access v3.3
- Remote Access v2.1
- RHVoice - a Russian speech synthesizer v0.2.161
- Say Product Name and Version v1.0.2012060901
- SpeechPlayer in Espeak v0.3
- sysTrayList v2.3
- Virtual Review v2.2
- Windows 10 App Essentials v20180626-dev
I have a non-critical problem with the Emoticons add-on in relation to the emoticon selection insertion dialog, but I don't know if it is related to wxPython 4 or not. I can describe it in another message, if you wish.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

?? 27.6.2018 ?. ? 9:47, Joseph Lee ??????:

Dear NVDA community,
 
The following is rated

    


Re: IMPORTANT, quick responses required: any add-ons that are still not prepared for wxPython 4 besides Remote Support add-on?

 

Hello Lukasz,

Yes, the issue is the same. I'll put a comment on the bug with a log file for reference.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev


На 27.6.2018 г. в 12:27, Lukasz Golonka написа:

Hi Kostadin,
I've recently opened https://github.com/nvdaes/emoticons/issues/11
I'm not sure if it is caused by wxPython 4 or not, but if it is and you
are experiencing the same problem you may want to commend on this issue.
Lukasz

On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 11:30:24 +0300
"Kostadin Kolev" <k.kolev1985@...> wrote:

Hello Joseph,

The add-ons I have seam to work OK under wxPython 4, except for Remote Access about which you already know. I have the following add-ons:

- Emoticons v7.0
- fakeClipboardAnouncement v1.0
- GoldWave v18.03
- Enhancement on poedit Access v3.3
- Remote Access v2.1
- RHVoice - a Russian speech synthesizer v0.2.161
- Say Product Name and Version v1.0.2012060901
- SpeechPlayer in Espeak v0.3
- sysTrayList v2.3
- Virtual Review v2.2
- Windows 10 App Essentials v20180626-dev
I have a non-critical problem with the Emoticons add-on in relation to the emoticon selection insertion dialog, but I don't know if it is related to wxPython 4 or not. I can describe it in another message, if you wish.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

?? 27.6.2018 ?. ? 9:47, Joseph Lee ??????:

Dear NVDA community,
 
The following is rated




Re: IMPORTANT, quick responses required: any add-ons that are still not prepared for wxPython 4 besides Remote Support add-on?

Lukasz Golonka <wulfryk1@...>
 

Hi Kostadin,
I've recently opened https://github.com/nvdaes/emoticons/issues/11
I'm not sure if it is caused by wxPython 4 or not, but if it is and you
are experiencing the same problem you may want to commend on this issue.
Lukasz

On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 11:30:24 +0300
"Kostadin Kolev" <k.kolev1985@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Joseph,

The add-ons I have seam to work OK under wxPython 4, except for Remote Access about which you already know. I have the following add-ons:

- Emoticons v7.0
- fakeClipboardAnouncement v1.0
- GoldWave v18.03
- Enhancement on poedit Access v3.3
- Remote Access v2.1
- RHVoice - a Russian speech synthesizer v0.2.161
- Say Product Name and Version v1.0.2012060901
- SpeechPlayer in Espeak v0.3
- sysTrayList v2.3
- Virtual Review v2.2
- Windows 10 App Essentials v20180626-dev
I have a non-critical problem with the Emoticons add-on in relation to the emoticon selection insertion dialog, but I don't know if it is related to wxPython 4 or not. I can describe it in another message, if you wish.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

?? 27.6.2018 ?. ? 9:47, Joseph Lee ??????:

Dear NVDA community,
 
The following is rated


Re: Remote Access Difficulties

Ervin, Glenn
 

Actually, at home, that key combination did not work on my client's computer or on mine.
We just did insert + N to bring up the menus and went to keyboard settings.
But as mentioned, that option in keyboard had no effect on my not being able to control his computer.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 9:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remote Access Difficulties

It's NVDA-ctrl-k to directly access keyboard settings, and you can also get to preferences easier by hitting NVDA-n which gets you to the NVDA menu. There's no need to go messing around in the system tray or notification area or whatever we're supposed to call it this week.



Às 16:17 de 26/06/2018, Rob Hudson escreveu:
Ervin, Glenn <glenn.ervin@nebraska.gov> wrote:
Yesterday I was not able to remote into my client's computer from
work, his seemed to connect, but I could not.
So I tried it from home, and it seemed that I could connect, but it
was strange in that when I press F11 to pass through keys, I had no
speech, and he heard nothing going on at his end.
Do you have
"Handle keys from other applications
Checked in the
"Keyboard settings"
dialog? Access it by pressing NVDA+shift+k, or by navigating to the
windows system tray with windows+b and arrowing until  you reach the
NVDA icon. Press enter on the icon and down arrow until you hear
"Preferences"
and then open that menu. The first item will be "Settings"
and in there is the dialog you want.



.


Re: Remote Access Difficulties

Ervin, Glenn
 

I checked this last night, and the handle input from another application were both checked on both machines.
It would appear that I was connected from home last night again, but I could not control his computer.
His computer wasn't talking at his end unless he did the keyboard commands.
So the speech engine was not the problem.
I think it is that he has an older version of NVDA.
I tried to update his NVDA by telephone, and he did it all correct, but we got an error message stating that NVDA encountered an error updating.
I don't know what version he has, 16 or 17, but he had his Windows 7 upgraded to 10 with the same version of NVDA.
I don't know if upgrading Windows messed up his NVDA, but he isn't savvy enough with the keyboard to install it himself.
Typing is his big problem, I think that if anyone wanted to make a great add-on, it should be a typing practice add-on.
This is the big weak point for people using the computer who cannot see the keys.
Sighted folk can get by with hunt and peck, but we cannot.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 6:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remote Access Difficulties

But that parameter should be checked on the machine accessing, in the machine being accessed or on both machines?

Rui Fontes


Às 16:17 de 26/06/2018, Rob Hudson escreveu:
Ervin, Glenn <glenn.ervin@nebraska.gov> wrote:
Yesterday I was not able to remote into my client's computer from work, his seemed to connect, but I could not.
So I tried it from home, and it seemed that I could connect, but it was strange in that when I press F11 to pass through keys, I had no speech, and he heard nothing going on at his end.
Do you have
"Handle keys from other applications
Checked in the
"Keyboard settings"
dialog? Access it by pressing NVDA+shift+k, or by navigating to the
windows system tray with windows+b and arrowing until you reach the NVDA icon. Press enter on the icon and down arrow until you hear "Preferences"
and then open that menu. The first item will be "Settings"
and in there is the dialog you want.



.


Re: a page that makes nvda to stop speaking

 

But why try to use other screen reader if you can simply change the browser?
It's more practical and you won't have to improvise anything.
Remember you always can have 2 or more browsers on your computer and use them when, where and as you like.
Em 27/06/2018 06:56, Alexandre Alves Toco escreveu:

Well, I believe it is a nvda’s problem because I did the same test with narrator and it worked...

Of course the page is not good. So I had to use tab to make narrator jump to the links after that edit control.

 

 

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De: marcio via Groups.Io
Enviado:quarta-feira, 27 de junho de 2018 02:37
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] a page that makes nvda to stop speaking

 

Hehe you hadn't mentioned that the problem was occurring with Edge.
Knowing it, I tried to reproduce this step by step right now. And (SURPRISE!) I had this same problem.
Seems like it's a problem which only happen on Edge and it's really too weird.
I swear, I was getting disturbed with the idea of restarting my computer just because of this website. But happilly I didn't need to do it.
Well, you should try another browser, since Edge is presenting this annoying behavior.

Cheers,
Marcio

Em 26/06/2018 23:46, Alexandre Alves Toco escreveu:

That is pretty strange.

First, you are right. The correct address is https://www.pontosmultiplus.com.br

When I type this in edge, nvda will say that the page is loaded.

So I start to arrowdown. I find a editbox and in the next arrowdown nvda stops speaking.

To get it back I have to close edge with alt + f4.

 

 

 

Enviado do Email para Windows 10

 

De: marcio via Groups.Io
Enviado:terça-feira, 26 de junho de 2018 13:21
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] a page that makes nvda to stop speaking

 

Ok, let's see.
It seems like a flight company webpage. As far as I've seen, it works quite well without much problems.
Instead of what our friend wrote it doesn't showed any problem with NVDA, including stop speaking.
Guess it'd be a personal problem. :(

Em 26/06/2018 10:49, Brian Vogel escreveu:

I do believe there's an extra 'n' in there.  https://www.pontosmultiplus.com.br/home takes me to a legitimate webpage, but since I do not speak Portugese I'd be a bad judge of whether what's being read is what should be read.

The page is incredibly graphics dense and involves a lot of constantly changing material, so I'd imagine that it might throw any screen reader off.

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Re: IMPORTANT, quick responses required: any add-ons that are still not prepared for wxPython 4 besides Remote Support add-on?

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I think once it hits master, people will find out. I imagine a lot of the add ons might seem to be fine, but even the authors, if they have not actually thought about old add ons for a while might well have forgotten about some gotchas in the code. all we users can do is use the add ons when the code hits master I suggest, and hope enough people out there either the original authors or somebody else can fix things for the important ones before a new nvda hits the streets. I think most here will feel more comfortable using master than next and thus although in the first instance this might cause some issues, its probably the fastest way to find the odd bug or incompatible add on. After all those who get an issue still have the last stable or a previous master to fall back on.
Brian

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From: "The Wolf" <hank.smith966@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT, quick responses required: any add-ons that are still not prepared for wxPython 4 besides Remote Support add-on?


I am really hoping dictation bridge will be updated
I use that add on alot
On 6/26/2018 11:47 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Dear NVDA community,

The following is rated “critical”, thus quick (yes, QUICK) responses
are needed:

As NV Access is about to switch fully to wxPython 4, Mick asked if
there are add-ons out there that could break significantly (and
spectacularly) if wxPython 4 comes to NVDA master snapshots, and
subsequently, 2018.3. NV Access does know that Remote Support is
affected, and I wrote a hotfix for users affected by this. But NV
Access may not know about important add-ons that are not ready to
handle wxPython 4, thus we need your responses NOW.

A special plea to Remote Support add-on authors (Chris, Tyler and
others): I know what I’m about to say is putting pressure on you (and
possibly others), but I think this is the best way to address this for
the sake of many people whose lives have changed because of your add-on:

Please choose carefully from the following options:

1. Please release a Remote Support add-on update that addresses
compatibility issues with wxPython 4 reported by users for the
past few months.
2. Please post a notice regarding compatibility issues with current
Remote Support add-on so you can have time to write workarounds
prior to release of NVDA 2018.3.
3. Please let us (the community) post a notice regarding
compatibility issues between current Remote Support add-on release
and wxPython 4.

If we don’t hear from you by June 30, 2018, I’ll post a notice on
community add-ons page regarding issues users could face when wxPython
4 is deployed to NVDA.

I do understand what I said above is very harsh and may have put
pressure on you, and if I offended you in any way, I’m sorry. But the
NVDA community said loud and clear for months how important this
add-on is, and no action from add-on authors despite months of
outreach efforts is an indication that we need to resort to, as some
put it, “call you out”.

To others: the day of reckoning has come. What I said above applies to
authors whose add-ons are considered important by the community yet
did not take any action to prepare for this day. In addition to
reassuring NV Access folks that we’re good to go, we need to reassure
the NVDA community that add-ons are ready to move on. So please
consider this a critical notice, hence the reason for asking for quick
responses.

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph

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Re: IMPORTANT, quick responses required: any add-ons that are still not prepared for wxPython 4 besides Remote Support add-on?

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Personally, as the remote add on is so important to some who use it for work, any inclusion of the wx4 stuff in a real release cannot really be done until its officially fixed can it?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 8:04 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT, quick responses required: any add-ons that are still not prepared for wxPython 4 besides Remote Support add-on?


Hi,

Regarding DictationBridge: no errors at the moment (at least from my side),
although I might be wrong.

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Wolf
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 11:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT, quick responses required: any add-ons that
are still not prepared for wxPython 4 besides Remote Support add-on?



I am really hoping dictation bridge will be updated
I use that add on alot

On 6/26/2018 11:47 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Dear NVDA community,



The following is rated "critical", thus quick (yes, QUICK) responses are
needed:



As NV Access is about to switch fully to wxPython 4, Mick asked if there are
add-ons out there that could break significantly (and spectacularly) if
wxPython 4 comes to NVDA master snapshots, and subsequently, 2018.3. NV
Access does know that Remote Support is affected, and I wrote a hotfix for
users affected by this. But NV Access may not know about important add-ons
that are not ready to handle wxPython 4, thus we need your responses NOW.



A special plea to Remote Support add-on authors (Chris, Tyler and others): I
know what I'm about to say is putting pressure on you (and possibly others),
but I think this is the best way to address this for the sake of many people
whose lives have changed because of your add-on:



Please choose carefully from the following options:



1. Please release a Remote Support add-on update that addresses
compatibility issues with wxPython 4 reported by users for the past few
months.
2. Please post a notice regarding compatibility issues with current
Remote Support add-on so you can have time to write workarounds prior to
release of NVDA 2018.3.
3. Please let us (the community) post a notice regarding compatibility
issues between current Remote Support add-on release and wxPython 4.



If we don't hear from you by June 30, 2018, I'll post a notice on community
add-ons page regarding issues users could face when wxPython 4 is deployed
to NVDA.



I do understand what I said above is very harsh and may have put pressure on
you, and if I offended you in any way, I'm sorry. But the NVDA community
said loud and clear for months how important this add-on is, and no action
from add-on authors despite months of outreach efforts is an indication that
we need to resort to, as some put it, "call you out".



To others: the day of reckoning has come. What I said above applies to
authors whose add-ons are considered important by the community yet did not
take any action to prepare for this day. In addition to reassuring NV Access
folks that we're good to go, we need to reassure the NVDA community that
add-ons are ready to move on. So please consider this a critical notice,
hence the reason for asking for quick responses.



Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph





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RES: [nvda] a page that makes nvda to stop speaking

Alexandre Alves Toco
 

Well, I believe it is a nvda’s problem because I did the same test with narrator and it worked...

Of course the page is not good. So I had to use tab to make narrator jump to the links after that edit control.

 

 

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De: marcio via Groups.Io
Enviado:quarta-feira, 27 de junho de 2018 02:37
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] a page that makes nvda to stop speaking

 

Hehe you hadn't mentioned that the problem was occurring with Edge.
Knowing it, I tried to reproduce this step by step right now. And (SURPRISE!) I had this same problem.
Seems like it's a problem which only happen on Edge and it's really too weird.
I swear, I was getting disturbed with the idea of restarting my computer just because of this website. But happilly I didn't need to do it.
Well, you should try another browser, since Edge is presenting this annoying behavior.

Cheers,
Marcio

Em 26/06/2018 23:46, Alexandre Alves Toco escreveu:

That is pretty strange.

First, you are right. The correct address is https://www.pontosmultiplus.com.br

When I type this in edge, nvda will say that the page is loaded.

So I start to arrowdown. I find a editbox and in the next arrowdown nvda stops speaking.

To get it back I have to close edge with alt + f4.

 

 

 

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De: marcio via Groups.Io
Enviado:terça-feira, 26 de junho de 2018 13:21
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] a page that makes nvda to stop speaking

 

Ok, let's see.
It seems like a flight company webpage. As far as I've seen, it works quite well without much problems.
Instead of what our friend wrote it doesn't showed any problem with NVDA, including stop speaking.
Guess it'd be a personal problem. :(

Em 26/06/2018 10:49, Brian Vogel escreveu:

I do believe there's an extra 'n' in there.  https://www.pontosmultiplus.com.br/home takes me to a legitimate webpage, but since I do not speak Portugese I'd be a bad judge of whether what's being read is what should be read.

The page is incredibly graphics dense and involves a lot of constantly changing material, so I'd imagine that it might throw any screen reader off.

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potplayer: could be the best for visual impaired, but a question remain

Simone Dal Maso
 

Hello,
I am trying potplayer and well, I can say it is amazing.
Some features like automatically reading of subtitles throught speech synthesizer, report of messages and element throught UI automation, custom font and windows size, are only some really great features!
Unfortunately I have a question and I'd like to know if someone solved it:
suppose you open a playlist with 300 tv channels.
On vlc you press ctrl-l and it is possible to browse with arrow keys channels and press enter on one of it.
Here instead in Potplayer you can press pgUp/pgDown to change channel, but it is not very confortable if you have 300 channels! Pressing f6 it appears a window called playlist, but it is not possible to browse it.
Have you some solutions about this problem?
Thank you .