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Re: VFO not complimentary about NVDA

Gene
 

You can do a lot with any screen-reader if you know a small number of commands like speak to end, read current line, word, etc.  Except for situations where you are using things like quick navigation commands in browse mode, or things like screen-review commands that are screen-reader specific, most of what you are using are Windows or program commands.  And in most cases quick navigation commands in browse mode on the Internet and in other programs that use browse mode have been voluntarily standardized by screen-reader designers. 
 
I can have any Windows screen-reader running, and if I know perhaps six or eight commands such as read current line, etc. I can do a great deal. 
 
The idea that it is difficult to use another screen-reader which is very widespread, is because it is widely not understood what are screen-reader commands and what are program and Windows commands.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: slery
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 12:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] VFO not complimentary about NVDA
 

I don’t know but I feel that making someone use a different screen reader is like making a cane user use a guide dog or a paralyized person use a non-powered wheel chair when they have always used a wheel chair.

 

The only thing I can do with JAWS is use my typical windows keyboard short-cuts that I have know since the switch from DOS.

 

Cindy

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of erik burggraaf
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 1:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] VFO not complimentary about NVDA

 

That's against the law here fortunately.  Employers have to take your preference into consideration in the accommodation process.  Fortunately NVDA plays much better ball on old systems than jaws does and I've had prospective employers tell me they prefer it after comparing the two.

Employers aren't required to do what you tell them to do.  If I walked into a shop that already had jaws I couldn't expect them to replace it with NVDA.  That's never happened yet though.

Best,

Erik

On July 18, 2018 1:07:58 PM "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...> wrote:

I brought that up  at the jobs I work for and they just say either use jaws or don’t work for us. It’s not fair really. And the blindness organizations don’t really care anyway. They are just there for the money, or lck thereof.



On Jul 18, 2018, at 9:40 AM, Sky Mundell <skyt@...> wrote:

 

Yes there are deliberate lies going on with those blind organisations about alternative products. What they fail to take into account is that there are cutbacks going on in education, employment, and funding can only go so far. Not only that, but when the cutbacks begin to bite, these organisations will be forced to seek out cheaper things such as NVDA. At that point, they may go with NVDA. What also surprises me is that VFO hasn't even put up their prices yet!

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From: 
nvda@nvda.groups.io[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of mikolaj holysz
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 9:21 AM
To: 
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] VFO not complimentary about NVDA

Same thing happens over here, in POland. Altix, the local distributor of 
JAWS, has recently released a series of articles about Jamie leaving NV 
Access for Mozilla even though he did this a long time ago and about all 
the features NVDA doesn't have and JAWS does. I've even heart accounts 
of people who were told by altix representatives that NVDA is dangerous 
to their computers and that it might fry their motherboards, though I 
don't know if those who retold the story were speaking the truth or 
merely exaggerating.

This seems like pressure from Freedom Scientific to promote JAWS.

W dniu 2018-07-18 o 17:33, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io pisze:

I have just listened to the latest issue of Techtalk from the RNIB in 
the uk on Audioboom, and there is an interview with the software man at 
VFO about what they sell and future plans, and the guy asked him about 
NVDA Though not actually  trashing it, he used that old ploy that one of 
the programmers has now left to go to Mozilla and nobody will install 
NVDA in a business system because its open source etc. anyway, go and 
have a listen and see what you think. I guess his job is to big up his 
own company, but I noticed, dear old Dolphin never even got mentioned!
Brian

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Re: Clipspeak stable released #addonrelease

Gene
 

The fake clipboard addon doesn’t know if the operation, copy, paste, etc. actually occurred.  It just announces something because the command is given.  The clipboard speak add on knows when an operation occurs.  So if it announces something, that is because it detects the operation.  It won’t announce something if nothing occurred.
 
In the past, clipboard speak would cause problems in one program or another.  I don’t remember details but I think it interfeered in some operations in Word.  Also, in a Youtube downloading program I use, it caused problems.  In these cases, the problems didn’t necessarily have anything to do with what happened when you used commands like copy and paste, but if I removed the add on, the problems stopped.  This was in a beta version and these problems may have been solved.
 
Gene
----- Original Messsage -----

Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 12:35 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Clipspeak stable released #AddonRelease
 
How does this differ from the Fake Clipboard Announcement add-on?
Does it offer more features or controls?

On 20/07/2018, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> For those who wanted a way to let NVDA announce various clipboard
> operations, now you have it in the form of Clipspeak add-on by Damien
> Garwood:
>
> https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clipspeak.en.html
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Joseph
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: VFO not complimentary about NVDA

Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear Brian & List:

 

I thought VFO Group would do JAWS scripting or put you in contact with a certified Jaws Scripter.

 

Perhaps not.

 

I do know that someone wanted a proprietary application for a car rental firm scripted to work with JAWS and was quoted thousands of dollars for the work and advised that every timed the firm rolled out a new version the work would have to be completely redone.

 

I believe the would- be scripting contractor was the Smith-Kettlewell Foundation of San Francisco.

 

I can see changes being required for a new version of the App, but a complete rewrite. That seems like someone trying to make a large company pay and pay to support only a few employees.

Brian

 

It may have been a proprietary telemarketing program. However, I think the employer to be was misquoted for the job.

Brian

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 12:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [NVDA] VFO not complimentary about NVDA

 

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 12:21 PM, Steve Nutt wrote:

Again, if I want a program scripted in NVDA, who does it?

If you contact NV Access, I feel certain they could point you to someone.  Alternatively, even ask here.   Most JAWS scripters are self-taught, or were at one time anyway.  I believe NVDA scripts are done in Python (though I could be wrong) and there are plenty of Python programmers out there.

I had to dig long and hard to find JAWS scriptwriters when they were needed about 2 years ago.  It is a real niche market.
 
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Re: Clipspeak stable released #addonrelease

 

Hi,
I need to dig into what's exactly different.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marisane Moruthanyana
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 11:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Clipspeak stable released #AddonRelease

Hi Joseph

This Marisane from SA.

How is it different from fake clipboard addon?

Your assistance is appreciated in advance.

Kind regards
Marisane

On 7/20/18, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,



For those who wanted a way to let NVDA announce various clipboard
operations, now you have it in the form of Clipspeak add-on by Damien
Garwood:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clipspeak.en.html



Cheers,

Joseph





Re: Clipspeak stable released #addonrelease

Marisane Moruthanyana
 

Hi Joseph

This Marisane from SA.

How is it different from fake clipboard addon?

Your assistance is appreciated in advance.

Kind regards
Marisane

On 7/20/18, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,



For those who wanted a way to let NVDA announce various clipboard
operations, now you have it in the form of Clipspeak add-on by Damien
Garwood:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clipspeak.en.html



Cheers,

Joseph





Re: Clipspeak stable released #addonrelease

Eleni Vamvakari
 

How does this differ from the Fake Clipboard Announcement add-on?
Does it offer more features or controls?

On 20/07/2018, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,



For those who wanted a way to let NVDA announce various clipboard
operations, now you have it in the form of Clipspeak add-on by Damien
Garwood:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clipspeak.en.html



Cheers,

Joseph




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Re: VFO not complimentary about NVDA

slery <slerythema@...>
 

I don’t know but I feel that making someone use a different screen reader is like making a cane user use a guide dog or a paralyized person use a non-powered wheel chair when they have always used a wheel chair.

 

The only thing I can do with JAWS is use my typical windows keyboard short-cuts that I have know since the switch from DOS.

 

Cindy

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of erik burggraaf
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 1:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] VFO not complimentary about NVDA

 

That's against the law here fortunately.  Employers have to take your preference into consideration in the accommodation process.  Fortunately NVDA plays much better ball on old systems than jaws does and I've had prospective employers tell me they prefer it after comparing the two.

Employers aren't required to do what you tell them to do.  If I walked into a shop that already had jaws I couldn't expect them to replace it with NVDA.  That's never happened yet though.

Best,

Erik

On July 18, 2018 1:07:58 PM "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...> wrote:

I brought that up  at the jobs I work for and they just say either use jaws or don’t work for us. It’s not fair really. And the blindness organizations don’t really care anyway. They are just there for the money, or lck thereof.



On Jul 18, 2018, at 9:40 AM, Sky Mundell <skyt@...> wrote:

 

Yes there are deliberate lies going on with those blind organisations about alternative products. What they fail to take into account is that there are cutbacks going on in education, employment, and funding can only go so far. Not only that, but when the cutbacks begin to bite, these organisations will be forced to seek out cheaper things such as NVDA. At that point, they may go with NVDA. What also surprises me is that VFO hasn't even put up their prices yet!

-----Original Message-----
From: 
nvda@nvda.groups.io[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of mikolaj holysz
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 9:21 AM
To: 
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] VFO not complimentary about NVDA

Same thing happens over here, in POland. Altix, the local distributor of 
JAWS, has recently released a series of articles about Jamie leaving NV 
Access for Mozilla even though he did this a long time ago and about all 
the features NVDA doesn't have and JAWS does. I've even heart accounts 
of people who were told by altix representatives that NVDA is dangerous 
to their computers and that it might fry their motherboards, though I 
don't know if those who retold the story were speaking the truth or 
merely exaggerating.

This seems like pressure from Freedom Scientific to promote JAWS.

W dniu 2018-07-18 o 17:33, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io pisze:

I have just listened to the latest issue of Techtalk from the RNIB in 
the uk on Audioboom, and there is an interview with the software man at 
VFO about what they sell and future plans, and the guy asked him about 
NVDA Though not actually  trashing it, he used that old ploy that one of 
the programmers has now left to go to Mozilla and nobody will install 
NVDA in a business system because its open source etc. anyway, go and 
have a listen and see what you think. I guess his job is to big up his 
own company, but I noticed, dear old Dolphin never even got mentioned!
Brian

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Clipspeak stable released #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

 

For those who wanted a way to let NVDA announce various clipboard operations, now you have it in the form of Clipspeak add-on by Damien Garwood:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clipspeak.en.html

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: VFO not complimentary about NVDA

Kenny Peyattt jr. <p.wildcat1234@...>
 

That makes me wonder about chromebooks sorry for being off topic but there are buisnesses that use chromebooks and thoughs are use open source software.
Kenny Peyatt jr.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 11:46 PM
To: Nvda List List
Subject: Re: [nvda] VFO not complimentary about NVDA

It was a nonprophet, so they paid for jaws and would not let me use nvda on their machines. I didn’t watn to fight, and yes I did bring up nvda with my state’s bsb. They brushed me off saying they would never consider open source for work. I know I said that before, and I’m still mad every time I write about that..

On Jul 19, 2018, at 8:15 PM, Kenny Peyattt jr. <p.wildcat1234@gmail.com> wrote:

The thing is if the state is paying for it then you have to use it. That is what messed up.
Kenny Peyatt jr.

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 12:03 PM
To: Nvda List
Subject: Re: [nvda] VFO not complimentary about NVDA

Oh come on. I’ve not ben using freedom rash tiva's products now for 8 years and I’m quite happy with it. I do talk to employers though and they say I either use jaws or nothing at all, they don’t want to install nvda on their systems. I explain what it is, and even my services here don’t want to deal with nvda even though i’ve brought it up. They don’t like open source. I wish that people would quit using freedom trash tiva’s stuff and switch to nvda, it is over all the best experience and getting better on a daily basis.

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I have just listened to the latest issue of Techtalk from the RNIB in the uk on Audioboom, and there is an interview with the software man at VFO about what they sell and future plans, and the guy asked him about NVDA Though not actually trashing it, he used that old ploy that one of the programmers has now left to go to Mozilla and nobody will install NVDA in a business system because its open source etc. anyway, go and have a listen and see what you think. I guess his job is to big up his own company, but I noticed, dear old Dolphin never even got mentioned!
Brian

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Re: VFO not complimentary about NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

It was a nonprophet, so they paid for jaws and would not let me use nvda on their machines. I didn’t watn to fight, and yes I did bring up nvda with my state’s bsb. They brushed me off saying they would never consider open source for work. I know I said that before, and I’m still mad every time I write about that..

On Jul 19, 2018, at 8:15 PM, Kenny Peyattt jr. <p.wildcat1234@gmail.com> wrote:

The thing is if the state is paying for it then you have to use it. That is what messed up.
Kenny Peyatt jr.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 12:03 PM
To: Nvda List
Subject: Re: [nvda] VFO not complimentary about NVDA

Oh come on. I’ve not ben using freedom rash tiva's products now for 8 years and I’m quite happy with it. I do talk to employers though and they say I either use jaws or nothing at all, they don’t want to install nvda on their systems. I explain what it is, and even my services here don’t want to deal with nvda even though i’ve brought it up. They don’t like open source. I wish that people would quit using freedom trash tiva’s stuff and switch to nvda, it is over all the best experience and getting better on a daily basis.

On Jul 18, 2018, at 8:33 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

I have just listened to the latest issue of Techtalk from the RNIB in the uk on Audioboom, and there is an interview with the software man at VFO about what they sell and future plans, and the guy asked him about NVDA Though not actually trashing it, he used that old ploy that one of the programmers has now left to go to Mozilla and nobody will install NVDA in a business system because its open source etc. anyway, go and have a listen and see what you think. I guess his job is to big up his own company, but I noticed, dear old Dolphin never even got mentioned!
Brian

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Re: taking screen shots using nvda?

 

Quentin is correct that the most typical location on many laptops, and particularly HP laptops, for the PrtSc, print screen, key is immediately to the right of the F12 key.  Since you're out of the actual F1 through F12 keys at that point it's most common for PrtSc to be the default hit and to not require the pressing of the fn key along with it.  On my HP laptop fn+PrtSc is the same as INSERT.  His tip about using NVDA keyboard help (and JAWS has the same, but I can't recall if the activation sequence is the same) letting you confirm the location is an excellent one.

Under Windows 10 you can take a full-screen screen shot by hitting Windows Key+PrtSc.  This will cause the screen to dim very briefly, which indicates the shot has been taken, and that screen shot will be in a folder under your Pictures library named Screenshots in PNG (Portable Network Graphics) file format.  If you take sequential screen shots the files will be named Screenshot(2), Screenshot(3), etc., etc., etc.  It is important to remember that this takes a full screen shot, so everything that is open and visible is included.

Microsoft has now added the ability to take a windowed screen shot by hitting Windows Key+ALT+PrtSc.  What's weird, though, is that this handled through Xbox and the resulting screen shot, and it is a straight .png file, is stored in the Videos library in a folder named Captures and where the file name is taken from what is in the Window Title of the window being captured followed by the date-time stamp of the capture itself.  So, for example, a windowed screen shot I took of the Feedback Hub window a while back was named Feedback Hub 6_19_2018 11_53_49 AM.png 

Even though those names are long, to me they're much better than the generic Screenshot convention for full-screen screen shots.  But since they are full screen there's no way to use the Window Title since there is no Window Title for the full screen.

These save you having to deal with any image editor, pasting from the clipboard, then saving the file.

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Re: taking screen shots using nvda?

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


The easiest way to find what the keys are on your screen with nvda is to use the nvda key + one on the main querty keyboard. it will put nvda input help on mode press any keys to find what they are then once you located it turn if off with nvda key + 1 again.


hope this helps.


Gene nz



On 7/20/2018 2:17 PM, The Wolf wrote:

where is the print key found at?


On 7/19/2018 6:32 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Press the PRINTSCREEN key to take a screenshot of the whole screen.

ALT+PRINTSCREEN takes a shot of only the active Window (so not the task bar or anything else)

The image itself is copied to the clipboard and you can paste it in an email (depending on your email client it may paste it in the body, or as an attachment.

If you press WINDOWS+PRINTSCREEN it will automatically save the image to your "Pictures" library in the "Screenshots" folder, called screenshot.png for the first one, then screenshot(2).png for the second and so on.

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 11:26 AM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
hello

how do I take a screen shot using nvda?  I am trying to trouble shoot a issue with one of my voip adapters and localphone is wanting screen shots

how do I accomplish this with nvda?

I never took a screen shot before and really haven't ran in to a situation where I needed to until now

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Re: VFO not complimentary about NVDA

Kenny Peyattt jr. <p.wildcat1234@...>
 

The thing is if the state is paying for it then you have to use it. That is what messed up.
Kenny Peyatt jr.

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 12:03 PM
To: Nvda List
Subject: Re: [nvda] VFO not complimentary about NVDA

Oh come on. I’ve not ben using freedom rash tiva's products now for 8 years and I’m quite happy with it. I do talk to employers though and they say I either use jaws or nothing at all, they don’t want to install nvda on their systems. I explain what it is, and even my services here don’t want to deal with nvda even though i’ve brought it up. They don’t like open source. I wish that people would quit using freedom trash tiva’s stuff and switch to nvda, it is over all the best experience and getting better on a daily basis.

On Jul 18, 2018, at 8:33 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

I have just listened to the latest issue of Techtalk from the RNIB in the uk on Audioboom, and there is an interview with the software man at VFO about what they sell and future plans, and the guy asked him about NVDA Though not actually trashing it, he used that old ploy that one of the programmers has now left to go to Mozilla and nobody will install NVDA in a business system because its open source etc. anyway, go and have a listen and see what you think. I guess his job is to big up his own company, but I noticed, dear old Dolphin never even got mentioned!
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Re: taking screen shots using nvda?

Quentin Christensen
 

It depends on your keyboard.  On a regular desktop keyboard, if you head to the right of F12, and above the INSERT / DELETE group you get to Print screen, Scroll Lock and Pause / Break.  Three keys that don't get a lot of love nowadays, which also means if you are using a laptop.... They could be anywhere.... NVDA's Input Help (NVDA+1) will identify them if you press them, though on a laptop you may need to press Fn+ another key.

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 12:17 PM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:

where is the print key found at?


On 7/19/2018 6:32 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Press the PRINTSCREEN key to take a screenshot of the whole screen.

ALT+PRINTSCREEN takes a shot of only the active Window (so not the task bar or anything else)

The image itself is copied to the clipboard and you can paste it in an email (depending on your email client it may paste it in the body, or as an attachment.

If you press WINDOWS+PRINTSCREEN it will automatically save the image to your "Pictures" library in the "Screenshots" folder, called screenshot.png for the first one, then screenshot(2).png for the second and so on.

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 11:26 AM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
hello

how do I take a screen shot using nvda?  I am trying to trouble shoot a issue with one of my voip adapters and localphone is wanting screen shots

how do I accomplish this with nvda?

I never took a screen shot before and really haven't ran in to a situation where I needed to until now

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Re: taking screen shots using nvda?

 

I am currently using windows10


On 7/19/2018 6:54 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
What version of Windows are you running?

Quentin's advice does apply to all versions of Windows, but Windows 10 gives you another option where you don't need to deal with any image editor to save them.

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Re: taking screen shots using nvda?

 

where is the print key found at?


On 7/19/2018 6:32 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Press the PRINTSCREEN key to take a screenshot of the whole screen.

ALT+PRINTSCREEN takes a shot of only the active Window (so not the task bar or anything else)

The image itself is copied to the clipboard and you can paste it in an email (depending on your email client it may paste it in the body, or as an attachment.

If you press WINDOWS+PRINTSCREEN it will automatically save the image to your "Pictures" library in the "Screenshots" folder, called screenshot.png for the first one, then screenshot(2).png for the second and so on.

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 11:26 AM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
hello

how do I take a screen shot using nvda?  I am trying to trouble shoot a issue with one of my voip adapters and localphone is wanting screen shots

how do I accomplish this with nvda?

I never took a screen shot before and really haven't ran in to a situation where I needed to until now

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Re: taking screen shots using nvda?

 

What version of Windows are you running?

Quentin's advice does apply to all versions of Windows, but Windows 10 gives you another option where you don't need to deal with any image editor to save them.

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Re: File not found. when saving text file- RESOLVED

Robert Mendoza
 

Hi, Quentin.


Sorry for the late response. I already sorted out my problem by resetting my other laptop and now it works fine smoothly.


Robert Mendoza


qOn 7/19/2018 1:06 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

It sounds much more like a problem with notepad and / or locating that testing.txt file in your documents rather than anything NVDA is doing.  Since you mentioned it happened with a portable copy of NVDA, if you run a temporary copy of NVDA 2018.2.1 (from the installer, select "Continue running"), does the problem come back?  (that way you can test it before upgrading back to 2018.2.1).

If it does, could you please send me a copy of your log (ideally at debug level - press NVDA+q, then down arrow to "restart with debug logging" and enter).  Email to info@....

Since the error mentions this testing.txt file, have you ever opened or saved a file by that name?

Regards

qQuentin.

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 9:52 AM, Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@...> wrote:
Hi, Brian

What I did for to check this is removed the installed NVDA to my machine and deleted all files thoroughly. Then, run with portable but no luck.


It is kinda strange because if I am going to use an older version like 2018.1 as example I could save them with no problem. By the way, I am using Windows 10 to my other unit of laptop.Generally, not sure what the real cause of misbehaving to function.
Robert Mendoza


On 7/18/2018 10:01 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Does this only happen in notepad and noting else?

I have noticed a delay that sometimes occurs on the save dialogue actually operating, but not anything as you describe.
Seems illogical as you say as you are not actually loading anything unless something's is running that you do not know about. If you now run the later version as a portable does the effect return?
Brian

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Hi,

I recently noticed strange behavior to my other machine after I got updated to stable version of NVDA 2018.2.1, when I am about to save particular file in notepad as regular text file format.it keeps me prompting me with an error
C:\Users\rbmendoza\Documents\testing.txt
File not found.

Though fact, I am just wanting to save a regular text file so, as alternative I done some troubleshooting to ensure the behavior I removed it thoroughly the 2018.2.1, reboot after then tried to installed older version of NVDA which is 2018.1 then the saving process works fine. Not sure what seems the problem for this . Hope could someone could help me for this matter. Thanks.

Robert Mendoza















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Re: taking screen shots using nvda?

Quentin Christensen
 

Press the PRINTSCREEN key to take a screenshot of the whole screen.

ALT+PRINTSCREEN takes a shot of only the active Window (so not the task bar or anything else)

The image itself is copied to the clipboard and you can paste it in an email (depending on your email client it may paste it in the body, or as an attachment.

If you press WINDOWS+PRINTSCREEN it will automatically save the image to your "Pictures" library in the "Screenshots" folder, called screenshot.png for the first one, then screenshot(2).png for the second and so on.

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 11:26 AM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
hello

how do I take a screen shot using nvda?  I am trying to trouble shoot a issue with one of my voip adapters and localphone is wanting screen shots

how do I accomplish this with nvda?

I never took a screen shot before and really haven't ran in to a situation where I needed to until now

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Re: use ctrl+shift+s is not read notes when I in powerpoint

Quentin Christensen
 

Dear Logo Kuo,

CONTROL+SHIFT+S only works to read notes when you are delivering the presentation itself (after you have pressed F5).  Then it toggles between NVDA reading the slide and the notes (but still only shows the slide on screen).

To get to the notes pane when designing the slide, you can press F6 to move between window sections.  The Notes is near the end so maybe SHIFT+F6 to get from the slide to it, and F6 to get back.  If the Notes pane isn't there, press CONTROL+SHIFT+H to unhide it (that is a toggle so if it is visible it will hide it).

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 10:01 AM, 特種兵 <afreettears@...> wrote:

hi all:

  look up nvda command quick reference
  when we in powerpoint can use ctrl+shift+s to read notes
  so I edit e notes after press this key to got a dialog about save new file only
  whats wrong
  sorry for my terrible english

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