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Re: Initial Skype for desktop 8 feedback

Cristóbal
 

Where are you seeing this option to select speakers for the ringer. Under audio/video settings, all I get is the mic combo box, the speakers combo box and a volume slider.  This is what I get in the audio and video settings sections for Skype desktop.

Skype Preview
Call or send SMS messages to this number

160

$0.00
Type an SMS here
Type an SMS here
edit
Close
Button
Audio & Video Settings

Make a free test call
Button Microphone
Microphone, Microphone (2- Logitech USB Headset), selected
button menu
Automatically adjust microphone settings
Switch On  Automatically adjust microphone settings

Speakers
Speakers, Speakers (2- Logitech USB Headset), selected
button menu Change speaker volume
2
left right slider Start audio test
Button

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 7:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Initial Skype for desktop 8 feedback

 

Hi

 

My sound is coming out my speakers on skype 8 for desk top It gave me a few options of which i just chose my speakers for sound and one for my mic I also had options so i could set my web cam.

 

Plus i was a little lazy and for incoming calls etc i just get them to answer automatically  which works well. I am sure when i went through the shortcuts there were plenty there to choose from but only learn the ones i need to.

 

for example alt + 1 for chats and alt + 2 for contacts etc There is also one that has you do like alt + F then it gives you options to call some one. I have when i do this go to the contact  who ever it is then do alt + F then go down the list to call then press the enter key.

 

There probabaly is a shortcut for it but i usually do it the way it works every time.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 7/31/2018 11:16 AM, Cristóbal wrote:

Hello list,

So, some initial feedback after updating to Skype 8.x

Muscle memory issues with the new keystrokes aside which are always going to take a bit getting used to, I’m finding certain aspects to be quite frustrating. I’ve already written Microsoft about some of this via the feedback option in the app as well as on Twitter.

Anyway, the immediate thing is that with this updated version, there doesn’t seem to be any means to have the Skype ringer alert go to a separate audio source like external or PC speakers. There’s only one option for speakers which if you’re using a headset, which I’m pretty sure most if not all of us are using is the only viable option. More so for those of us who have a paid number. The end result is that when you get an incoming call, the ringer quite easily drowns out anything Jaws (in my case) may say. I don’t use the audio ducking feature as I find it to be too distracting. One can go into the speaker settings in Skype and lower the volume or the speaker settings in Windows 10 to lower Skype volume, but all that accomplishes is that in addition to the ringer being lowered, the call audio is lowered as well. Also, I’ve already twice missed an incoming call because I took my headset off for this or that reason and didn’t hear the ringer alert fast enough through the headset to put it back on and get to the Skype window in time to pick up.

I had mentioned previously that the hotkeys also no longer to appear to be universal. Indeed, this is the case. So now, when you get an incoming call, you have to scramble to the Skype window since at least for me, I’m not taken there automatically and if I’m in a different virtual desktop, the taskbar short cut win key plus X, Y or Z won’t work and try to listen to figure out if I’m finally in the Skype window which again, as described previously, isn’t as easy since the ringer is drowning everything else out. The few times I’ve had a chance to take an incoming call and used the control plus shift plus P command, Skype actually initiates an outgoing call as well as answering the incoming call. This . . . has proven to be problematic to say the least.

More than once already, I’ve found myself trying to orientate myself on the Skype screen to maybe tab to the answer button instead of using the hotkey to avoid this issue with answering/making a duel call, but so far, I haven’t been able to access the answer/accept call button in time.

This leads me into the other issue. I so far have not been able to find any of the telephone settings for Skype. Settings in Skype appear to be super basic. Nothing however for voicemail greeting, managing call forwarding and or ringer time. I know I can probably if need be access some of these features via the Skype web account, but talk about a needless step backwards.

One other thing for Jaws users (I don’t use NVDA enough to know how the dictionary manager works), I had a bunch of saved entries for phone numbers to speak this or that clinic. It seems that the Skype app is Chrome based so, they didn’t port over. I’m sure I can go into my Jaws settings and try and play around with changing a dictionary manager file association, but again, just another inconvenience.

IN broad terms, the app all in all seems accessible and navigating around like a webpage is easy enough, but it lacks some serious functionality.

It is much easier to make calls, but receiving/answering… it’s still rough to say the least.

 

 


Re: Initial Skype for desktop 8 feedback

Gene
 

Don't assume something is inaccessible just because there are no menus.  Apps, not applications, but Windows 10 apps, don't have menus.  They are accessed in other ways such as by using object navigation.  I don't have Windows 10 so others will have to discuss the matter further.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Initial Skype for desktop 8 feedback

skype is not accessible. I checked to see with W10 and jaws 2018. The only way I could get it from the store. There is no alt F to check menue.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Initial Skype for desktop 8 feedback
 
A lot of these sorts of problems could be avoided if companies would properly beta test accessibility before foisting inferior new versions on blind people as production programs.  I don't go around crying discrimination, but this sort of thing, releasing an improperly evaluated version and making blind users responsible for alerting companies about problems, then having companies take months or longer to correct problems, is blatantly discriminatory.  If proper evaluation and beta testing is done in general, it should extend to accessibility.  I guess separate is not equal isn't supposed to extend to blind people.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 7:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Initial Skype for desktop 8 feedback
 
Hmph, its obvious that skype 7 is more accessible and usable and less
crappy than skype 8 I do hope they fix it.

In the mean time I may have to get chrome and use hangouts or whats app
or something.




On 7/31/2018 11:16 AM, Cristóbal wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> So, some initial feedback after updating to Skype 8.x
>
> Muscle memory issues with the new keystrokes aside which are always going to
> take a bit getting used to, I’m finding certain aspects to be quite
> frustrating. I’ve already written Microsoft about some of this via the
> feedback option in the app as well as on Twitter.
>
> Anyway, the immediate thing is that with this updated version, there doesn’t
> seem to be any means to have the Skype ringer alert go to a separate audio
> source like external or PC speakers. There’s only one option for speakers
> which if you’re using a headset, which I’m pretty sure most if not all of us
> are using is the only viable option. More so for those of us who have a paid
> number. The end result is that when you get an incoming call, the ringer
> quite easily drowns out anything Jaws (in my case) may say. I don’t use the
> audio ducking feature as I find it to be too distracting. One can go into
> the speaker settings in Skype and lower the volume or the speaker settings
> in Windows 10 to lower Skype volume, but all that accomplishes is that in
> addition to the ringer being lowered, the call audio is lowered as well.
> Also, I’ve already twice missed an incoming call because I took my headset
> off for this or that reason and didn’t hear the ringer alert fast enough
> through the headset to put it back on and get to the Skype window in time to
> pick up.
>
> I had mentioned previously that the hotkeys also no longer to appear to be
> universal. Indeed, this is the case. So now, when you get an incoming call,
> you have to scramble to the Skype window since at least for me, I’m not
> taken there automatically and if I’m in a different virtual desktop, the
> taskbar short cut win key plus X, Y or Z won’t work and try to listen to
> figure out if I’m finally in the Skype window which again, as described
> previously, isn’t as easy since the ringer is drowning everything else out.
> The few times I’ve had a chance to take an incoming call and used the
> control plus shift plus P command, Skype actually initiates an outgoing call
> as well as answering the incoming call. This . . . has proven to be
> problematic to say the least.
>
> More than once already, I’ve found myself trying to orientate myself on the
> Skype screen to maybe tab to the answer button instead of using the hotkey
> to avoid this issue with answering/making a duel call, but so far, I haven’t
> been able to access the answer/accept call button in time.
>
> This leads me into the other issue. I so far have not been able to find any
> of the telephone settings for Skype. Settings in Skype appear to be super
> basic. Nothing however for voicemail greeting, managing call forwarding and
> or ringer time. I know I can probably if need be access some of these
> features via the Skype web account, but talk about a needless step
> backwards.
>
> One other thing for Jaws users (I don’t use NVDA enough to know how the
> dictionary manager works), I had a bunch of saved entries for phone numbers
> to speak this or that clinic. It seems that the Skype app is Chrome based
> so, they didn’t port over. I’m sure I can go into my Jaws settings and try
> and play around with changing a dictionary manager file association, but
> again, just another inconvenience.
>
> IN broad terms, the app all in all seems accessible and navigating around
> like a webpage is easy enough, but it lacks some serious functionality.
>
> It is much easier to make calls, but receiving/answering… it’s still rough
> to say the least.
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>




Re: Initial Skype for desktop 8 feedback

Cristóbal
 

I just updated my 7.4 desktop application. You can also grab the desktop installer from Ninite.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 7:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Initial Skype for desktop 8 feedback

 

I went to skype.com and there is no other. From there, it sends you to the microsoft store.

 

From: Cristóbal

Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 9:13 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Initial Skype for desktop 8 feedback

 

In my initial posting, I said Skype for desktop. Indeed it is fairly easy to get around Skype like a webpage, but the functionality like I described makes it a frustrating experience. Not that it’s not accessible, just that the way it is currently, there seem to be obstacles intended or not with this most recent release.


On Jul 30, 2018, at 6:57 PM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi

 

Which version of Skype is it you are referring to? I just read part of this thread and it sounds like some are referring to the app version that comes with windows 10 the Skype 8 for desk top version i think you can only get from Skype.com that one is more like a web page in the way you can jump around. it is not to much different to the web based version of skype which is through your browser.

 

I know there may be some limitations say on the web version but am sure if they are found in any of the versions and reported they will be fixed.

 

I am hoping to have the skype 8 for desk top tutorial uploaded tonight to my website. It has been half edited so far.

 

I only really use Skype for audio chats or maybe text chats but i guess also it depends what you want to do with it.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 7/31/2018 11:16 AM, Cristóbal wrote:

Hello list,

So, some initial feedback after updating to Skype 8.x

Muscle memory issues with the new keystrokes aside which are always going to take a bit getting used to, I’m finding certain aspects to be quite frustrating. I’ve already written Microsoft about some of this via the feedback option in the app as well as on Twitter.

Anyway, the immediate thing is that with this updated version, there doesn’t seem to be any means to have the Skype ringer alert go to a separate audio source like external or PC speakers. There’s only one option for speakers which if you’re using a headset, which I’m pretty sure most if not all of us are using is the only viable option. More so for those of us who have a paid number. The end result is that when you get an incoming call, the ringer quite easily drowns out anything Jaws (in my case) may say. I don’t use the audio ducking feature as I find it to be too distracting. One can go into the speaker settings in Skype and lower the volume or the speaker settings in Windows 10 to lower Skype volume, but all that accomplishes is that in addition to the ringer being lowered, the call audio is lowered as well. Also, I’ve already twice missed an incoming call because I took my headset off for this or that reason and didn’t hear the ringer alert fast enough through the headset to put it back on and get to the Skype window in time to pick up.

I had mentioned previously that the hotkeys also no longer to appear to be universal. Indeed, this is the case. So now, when you get an incoming call, you have to scramble to the Skype window since at least for me, I’m not taken there automatically and if I’m in a different virtual desktop, the taskbar short cut win key plus X, Y or Z won’t work and try to listen to figure out if I’m finally in the Skype window which again, as described previously, isn’t as easy since the ringer is drowning everything else out. The few times I’ve had a chance to take an incoming call and used the control plus shift plus P command, Skype actually initiates an outgoing call as well as answering the incoming call. This . . . has proven to be problematic to say the least.

More than once already, I’ve found myself trying to orientate myself on the Skype screen to maybe tab to the answer button instead of using the hotkey to avoid this issue with answering/making a duel call, but so far, I haven’t been able to access the answer/accept call button in time.

This leads me into the other issue. I so far have not been able to find any of the telephone settings for Skype. Settings in Skype appear to be super basic. Nothing however for voicemail greeting, managing call forwarding and or ringer time. I know I can probably if need be access some of these features via the Skype web account, but talk about a needless step backwards.

One other thing for Jaws users (I don’t use NVDA enough to know how the dictionary manager works), I had a bunch of saved entries for phone numbers to speak this or that clinic. It seems that the Skype app is Chrome based so, they didn’t port over. I’m sure I can go into my Jaws settings and try and play around with changing a dictionary manager file association, but again, just another inconvenience.

IN broad terms, the app all in all seems accessible and navigating around like a webpage is easy enough, but it lacks some serious functionality.

It is much easier to make calls, but receiving/answering… it’s still rough to say the least.

 

 


Re: Initial Skype for desktop 8 feedback

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


My sound is coming out my speakers on skype 8 for desk top It gave me a few options of which i just chose my speakers for sound and one for my mic I also had options so i could set my web cam.


Plus i was a little lazy and for incoming calls etc i just get them to answer automatically  which works well. I am sure when i went through the shortcuts there were plenty there to choose from but only learn the ones i need to.


for example alt + 1 for chats and alt + 2 for contacts etc There is also one that has you do like alt + F then it gives you options to call some one. I have when i do this go to the contact  who ever it is then do alt + F then go down the list to call then press the enter key.


There probabaly is a shortcut for it but i usually do it the way it works every time.


Gene nz



On 7/31/2018 11:16 AM, Cristóbal wrote:

Hello list,

So, some initial feedback after updating to Skype 8.x

Muscle memory issues with the new keystrokes aside which are always going to take a bit getting used to, I’m finding certain aspects to be quite frustrating. I’ve already written Microsoft about some of this via the feedback option in the app as well as on Twitter.

Anyway, the immediate thing is that with this updated version, there doesn’t seem to be any means to have the Skype ringer alert go to a separate audio source like external or PC speakers. There’s only one option for speakers which if you’re using a headset, which I’m pretty sure most if not all of us are using is the only viable option. More so for those of us who have a paid number. The end result is that when you get an incoming call, the ringer quite easily drowns out anything Jaws (in my case) may say. I don’t use the audio ducking feature as I find it to be too distracting. One can go into the speaker settings in Skype and lower the volume or the speaker settings in Windows 10 to lower Skype volume, but all that accomplishes is that in addition to the ringer being lowered, the call audio is lowered as well. Also, I’ve already twice missed an incoming call because I took my headset off for this or that reason and didn’t hear the ringer alert fast enough through the headset to put it back on and get to the Skype window in time to pick up.

I had mentioned previously that the hotkeys also no longer to appear to be universal. Indeed, this is the case. So now, when you get an incoming call, you have to scramble to the Skype window since at least for me, I’m not taken there automatically and if I’m in a different virtual desktop, the taskbar short cut win key plus X, Y or Z won’t work and try to listen to figure out if I’m finally in the Skype window which again, as described previously, isn’t as easy since the ringer is drowning everything else out. The few times I’ve had a chance to take an incoming call and used the control plus shift plus P command, Skype actually initiates an outgoing call as well as answering the incoming call. This . . . has proven to be problematic to say the least.

More than once already, I’ve found myself trying to orientate myself on the Skype screen to maybe tab to the answer button instead of using the hotkey to avoid this issue with answering/making a duel call, but so far, I haven’t been able to access the answer/accept call button in time.

This leads me into the other issue. I so far have not been able to find any of the telephone settings for Skype. Settings in Skype appear to be super basic. Nothing however for voicemail greeting, managing call forwarding and or ringer time. I know I can probably if need be access some of these features via the Skype web account, but talk about a needless step backwards.

One other thing for Jaws users (I don’t use NVDA enough to know how the dictionary manager works), I had a bunch of saved entries for phone numbers to speak this or that clinic. It seems that the Skype app is Chrome based so, they didn’t port over. I’m sure I can go into my Jaws settings and try and play around with changing a dictionary manager file association, but again, just another inconvenience.

IN broad terms, the app all in all seems accessible and navigating around like a webpage is easy enough, but it lacks some serious functionality.

It is much easier to make calls, but receiving/answering… it’s still rough to say the least.

 



Re: Initial Skype for desktop 8 feedback

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


This is the page i got it off from from there website it is under the downloads section at https://www.skype.com/en/get-skype/

Gene nz



On 7/31/2018 2:19 PM, Holger Fiallo wrote:
I went to skype.com and there is no other. From there, it sends you to the microsoft store.
 
From: Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 9:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Initial Skype for desktop 8 feedback
 
In my initial posting, I said Skype for desktop. Indeed it is fairly easy to get around Skype like a webpage, but the functionality like I described makes it a frustrating experience. Not that it’s not accessible, just that the way it is currently, there seem to be obstacles intended or not with this most recent release.

On Jul 30, 2018, at 6:57 PM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi

 

Which version of Skype is it you are referring to? I just read part of this thread and it sounds like some are referring to the app version that comes with windows 10 the Skype 8 for desk top version i think you can only get from Skype.com that one is more like a web page in the way you can jump around. it is not to much different to the web based version of skype which is through your browser.

 

I know there may be some limitations say on the web version but am sure if they are found in any of the versions and reported they will be fixed.

 

I am hoping to have the skype 8 for desk top tutorial uploaded tonight to my website. It has been half edited so far.

 

I only really use Skype for audio chats or maybe text chats but i guess also it depends what you want to do with it.

 

Gene nz

 


On 7/31/2018 11:16 AM, Cristóbal wrote:

Hello list,

So, some initial feedback after updating to Skype 8.x

Muscle memory issues with the new keystrokes aside which are always going to take a bit getting used to, I’m finding certain aspects to be quite frustrating. I’ve already written Microsoft about some of this via the feedback option in the app as well as on Twitter.

Anyway, the immediate thing is that with this updated version, there doesn’t seem to be any means to have the Skype ringer alert go to a separate audio source like external or PC speakers. There’s only one option for speakers which if you’re using a headset, which I’m pretty sure most if not all of us are using is the only viable option. More so for those of us who have a paid number. The end result is that when you get an incoming call, the ringer quite easily drowns out anything Jaws (in my case) may say. I don’t use the audio ducking feature as I find it to be too distracting. One can go into the speaker settings in Skype and lower the volume or the speaker settings in Windows 10 to lower Skype volume, but all that accomplishes is that in addition to the ringer being lowered, the call audio is lowered as well. Also, I’ve already twice missed an incoming call because I took my headset off for this or that reason and didn’t hear the ringer alert fast enough through the headset to put it back on and get to the Skype window in time to pick up.

I had mentioned previously that the hotkeys also no longer to appear to be universal. Indeed, this is the case. So now, when you get an incoming call, you have to scramble to the Skype window since at least for me, I’m not taken there automatically and if I’m in a different virtual desktop, the taskbar short cut win key plus X, Y or Z won’t work and try to listen to figure out if I’m finally in the Skype window which again, as described previously, isn’t as easy since the ringer is drowning everything else out. The few times I’ve had a chance to take an incoming call and used the control plus shift plus P command, Skype actually initiates an outgoing call as well as answering the incoming call. This . . . has proven to be problematic to say the least.

More than once already, I’ve found myself trying to orientate myself on the Skype screen to maybe tab to the answer button instead of using the hotkey to avoid this issue with answering/making a duel call, but so far, I haven’t been able to access the answer/accept call button in time.

This leads me into the other issue. I so far have not been able to find any of the telephone settings for Skype. Settings in Skype appear to be super basic. Nothing however for voicemail greeting, managing call forwarding and or ringer time. I know I can probably if need be access some of these features via the Skype web account, but talk about a needless step backwards.

One other thing for Jaws users (I don’t use NVDA enough to know how the dictionary manager works), I had a bunch of saved entries for phone numbers to speak this or that clinic. It seems that the Skype app is Chrome based so, they didn’t port over. I’m sure I can go into my Jaws settings and try and play around with changing a dictionary manager file association, but again, just another inconvenience.

IN broad terms, the app all in all seems accessible and navigating around like a webpage is easy enough, but it lacks some serious functionality.

It is much easier to make calls, but receiving/answering… it’s still rough to say the least.

 




Re: Initial Skype for desktop 8 feedback

Holger Fiallo <hfiallo@...>
 

I went to skype.com and there is no other. From there, it sends you to the microsoft store.
 

From: Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 9:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Initial Skype for desktop 8 feedback
 
In my initial posting, I said Skype for desktop. Indeed it is fairly easy to get around Skype like a webpage, but the functionality like I described makes it a frustrating experience. Not that it’s not accessible, just that the way it is currently, there seem to be obstacles intended or not with this most recent release.

On Jul 30, 2018, at 6:57 PM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi

 

Which version of Skype is it you are referring to? I just read part of this thread and it sounds like some are referring to the app version that comes with windows 10 the Skype 8 for desk top version i think you can only get from Skype.com that one is more like a web page in the way you can jump around. it is not to much different to the web based version of skype which is through your browser.

 

I know there may be some limitations say on the web version but am sure if they are found in any of the versions and reported they will be fixed.

 

I am hoping to have the skype 8 for desk top tutorial uploaded tonight to my website. It has been half edited so far.

 

I only really use Skype for audio chats or maybe text chats but i guess also it depends what you want to do with it.

 

Gene nz

 


On 7/31/2018 11:16 AM, Cristóbal wrote:

Hello list,

So, some initial feedback after updating to Skype 8.x

Muscle memory issues with the new keystrokes aside which are always going to take a bit getting used to, I’m finding certain aspects to be quite frustrating. I’ve already written Microsoft about some of this via the feedback option in the app as well as on Twitter.

Anyway, the immediate thing is that with this updated version, there doesn’t seem to be any means to have the Skype ringer alert go to a separate audio source like external or PC speakers. There’s only one option for speakers which if you’re using a headset, which I’m pretty sure most if not all of us are using is the only viable option. More so for those of us who have a paid number. The end result is that when you get an incoming call, the ringer quite easily drowns out anything Jaws (in my case) may say. I don’t use the audio ducking feature as I find it to be too distracting. One can go into the speaker settings in Skype and lower the volume or the speaker settings in Windows 10 to lower Skype volume, but all that accomplishes is that in addition to the ringer being lowered, the call audio is lowered as well. Also, I’ve already twice missed an incoming call because I took my headset off for this or that reason and didn’t hear the ringer alert fast enough through the headset to put it back on and get to the Skype window in time to pick up.

I had mentioned previously that the hotkeys also no longer to appear to be universal. Indeed, this is the case. So now, when you get an incoming call, you have to scramble to the Skype window since at least for me, I’m not taken there automatically and if I’m in a different virtual desktop, the taskbar short cut win key plus X, Y or Z won’t work and try to listen to figure out if I’m finally in the Skype window which again, as described previously, isn’t as easy since the ringer is drowning everything else out. The few times I’ve had a chance to take an incoming call and used the control plus shift plus P command, Skype actually initiates an outgoing call as well as answering the incoming call. This . . . has proven to be problematic to say the least.

More than once already, I’ve found myself trying to orientate myself on the Skype screen to maybe tab to the answer button instead of using the hotkey to avoid this issue with answering/making a duel call, but so far, I haven’t been able to access the answer/accept call button in time.

This leads me into the other issue. I so far have not been able to find any of the telephone settings for Skype. Settings in Skype appear to be super basic. Nothing however for voicemail greeting, managing call forwarding and or ringer time. I know I can probably if need be access some of these features via the Skype web account, but talk about a needless step backwards.

One other thing for Jaws users (I don’t use NVDA enough to know how the dictionary manager works), I had a bunch of saved entries for phone numbers to speak this or that clinic. It seems that the Skype app is Chrome based so, they didn’t port over. I’m sure I can go into my Jaws settings and try and play around with changing a dictionary manager file association, but again, just another inconvenience.

IN broad terms, the app all in all seems accessible and navigating around like a webpage is easy enough, but it lacks some serious functionality.

It is much easier to make calls, but receiving/answering… it’s still rough to say the least.

 



Re: Initial Skype for desktop 8 feedback

Cristóbal
 

In my initial posting, I said Skype for desktop. Indeed it is fairly easy to get around Skype like a webpage, but the functionality like I described makes it a frustrating experience. Not that it’s not accessible, just that the way it is currently, there seem to be obstacles intended or not with this most recent release.

On Jul 30, 2018, at 6:57 PM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi


Which version of Skype is it you are referring to? I just read part of this thread and it sounds like some are referring to the app version that comes with windows 10 the Skype 8 for desk top version i think you can only get from Skype.com that one is more like a web page in the way you can jump around. it is not to much different to the web based version of skype which is through your browser.


I know there may be some limitations say on the web version but am sure if they are found in any of the versions and reported they will be fixed.


I am hoping to have the skype 8 for desk top tutorial uploaded tonight to my website. It has been half edited so far.


I only really use Skype for audio chats or maybe text chats but i guess also it depends what you want to do with it.


Gene nz



On 7/31/2018 11:16 AM, Cristóbal wrote:

Hello list,

So, some initial feedback after updating to Skype 8.x

Muscle memory issues with the new keystrokes aside which are always going to take a bit getting used to, I’m finding certain aspects to be quite frustrating. I’ve already written Microsoft about some of this via the feedback option in the app as well as on Twitter.

Anyway, the immediate thing is that with this updated version, there doesn’t seem to be any means to have the Skype ringer alert go to a separate audio source like external or PC speakers. There’s only one option for speakers which if you’re using a headset, which I’m pretty sure most if not all of us are using is the only viable option. More so for those of us who have a paid number. The end result is that when you get an incoming call, the ringer quite easily drowns out anything Jaws (in my case) may say. I don’t use the audio ducking feature as I find it to be too distracting. One can go into the speaker settings in Skype and lower the volume or the speaker settings in Windows 10 to lower Skype volume, but all that accomplishes is that in addition to the ringer being lowered, the call audio is lowered as well. Also, I’ve already twice missed an incoming call because I took my headset off for this or that reason and didn’t hear the ringer alert fast enough through the headset to put it back on and get to the Skype window in time to pick up.

I had mentioned previously that the hotkeys also no longer to appear to be universal. Indeed, this is the case. So now, when you get an incoming call, you have to scramble to the Skype window since at least for me, I’m not taken there automatically and if I’m in a different virtual desktop, the taskbar short cut win key plus X, Y or Z won’t work and try to listen to figure out if I’m finally in the Skype window which again, as described previously, isn’t as easy since the ringer is drowning everything else out. The few times I’ve had a chance to take an incoming call and used the control plus shift plus P command, Skype actually initiates an outgoing call as well as answering the incoming call. This . . . has proven to be problematic to say the least.

More than once already, I’ve found myself trying to orientate myself on the Skype screen to maybe tab to the answer button instead of using the hotkey to avoid this issue with answering/making a duel call, but so far, I haven’t been able to access the answer/accept call button in time.

This leads me into the other issue. I so far have not been able to find any of the telephone settings for Skype. Settings in Skype appear to be super basic. Nothing however for voicemail greeting, managing call forwarding and or ringer time. I know I can probably if need be access some of these features via the Skype web account, but talk about a needless step backwards.

One other thing for Jaws users (I don’t use NVDA enough to know how the dictionary manager works), I had a bunch of saved entries for phone numbers to speak this or that clinic. It seems that the Skype app is Chrome based so, they didn’t port over. I’m sure I can go into my Jaws settings and try and play around with changing a dictionary manager file association, but again, just another inconvenience.

IN broad terms, the app all in all seems accessible and navigating around like a webpage is easy enough, but it lacks some serious functionality.

It is much easier to make calls, but receiving/answering… it’s still rough to say the least.

 



Re: how do I set a home page in the new fire fox?

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I got my home page set to duckduck go.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of ely.r@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 6:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I set a home page in the new fire fox?

Rosemary,
John has more patients than I have for finding that setting. He is correct and the choices are as they used to was. You can enter a web address or if you are on the page you want, the use current page option is there as well.
Good luck from me as well,
Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 6:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I set a home page in the new fire fox?

Thanks, John. I was trying to change my home page right now in the new firefox but I had a little trouble with it too. I'll give it another shot.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 3:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I set a home page in the new fire fox?

Tools/Options, shift-tab a couple of times and you'll get to a list, arrow down to home, tab, and there's a combo box where you can pick options like blank page or whatever. I didn't look at the rest of it but that's where you set up your home page before, so I assume if you pick the right option, it will have an edit field to specify the page you want as your home page.


On 7/30/2018 16:52, brian wrote:
I am using the new fire fox and I have my favorites from ie and I do
have first letternavagation but how do I set my home page I want to
use bard thats the page I have in ie. There is an article that I
found when I googled it but it says to drag and drop. I am having no
issues with nvda reading in fire fox. no issues when down loading I
use save as and then control j to hear the percentages. Fire fox
loads pages faster than in ie.

Brian Sackrider




Re: Initial Skype for desktop 8 feedback

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


Which version of Skype is it you are referring to? I just read part of this thread and it sounds like some are referring to the app version that comes with windows 10 the Skype 8 for desk top version i think you can only get from Skype.com that one is more like a web page in the way you can jump around. it is not to much different to the web based version of skype which is through your browser.


I know there may be some limitations say on the web version but am sure if they are found in any of the versions and reported they will be fixed.


I am hoping to have the skype 8 for desk top tutorial uploaded tonight to my website. It has been half edited so far.


I only really use Skype for audio chats or maybe text chats but i guess also it depends what you want to do with it.


Gene nz



On 7/31/2018 11:16 AM, Cristóbal wrote:

Hello list,

So, some initial feedback after updating to Skype 8.x

Muscle memory issues with the new keystrokes aside which are always going to take a bit getting used to, I’m finding certain aspects to be quite frustrating. I’ve already written Microsoft about some of this via the feedback option in the app as well as on Twitter.

Anyway, the immediate thing is that with this updated version, there doesn’t seem to be any means to have the Skype ringer alert go to a separate audio source like external or PC speakers. There’s only one option for speakers which if you’re using a headset, which I’m pretty sure most if not all of us are using is the only viable option. More so for those of us who have a paid number. The end result is that when you get an incoming call, the ringer quite easily drowns out anything Jaws (in my case) may say. I don’t use the audio ducking feature as I find it to be too distracting. One can go into the speaker settings in Skype and lower the volume or the speaker settings in Windows 10 to lower Skype volume, but all that accomplishes is that in addition to the ringer being lowered, the call audio is lowered as well. Also, I’ve already twice missed an incoming call because I took my headset off for this or that reason and didn’t hear the ringer alert fast enough through the headset to put it back on and get to the Skype window in time to pick up.

I had mentioned previously that the hotkeys also no longer to appear to be universal. Indeed, this is the case. So now, when you get an incoming call, you have to scramble to the Skype window since at least for me, I’m not taken there automatically and if I’m in a different virtual desktop, the taskbar short cut win key plus X, Y or Z won’t work and try to listen to figure out if I’m finally in the Skype window which again, as described previously, isn’t as easy since the ringer is drowning everything else out. The few times I’ve had a chance to take an incoming call and used the control plus shift plus P command, Skype actually initiates an outgoing call as well as answering the incoming call. This . . . has proven to be problematic to say the least.

More than once already, I’ve found myself trying to orientate myself on the Skype screen to maybe tab to the answer button instead of using the hotkey to avoid this issue with answering/making a duel call, but so far, I haven’t been able to access the answer/accept call button in time.

This leads me into the other issue. I so far have not been able to find any of the telephone settings for Skype. Settings in Skype appear to be super basic. Nothing however for voicemail greeting, managing call forwarding and or ringer time. I know I can probably if need be access some of these features via the Skype web account, but talk about a needless step backwards.

One other thing for Jaws users (I don’t use NVDA enough to know how the dictionary manager works), I had a bunch of saved entries for phone numbers to speak this or that clinic. It seems that the Skype app is Chrome based so, they didn’t port over. I’m sure I can go into my Jaws settings and try and play around with changing a dictionary manager file association, but again, just another inconvenience.

IN broad terms, the app all in all seems accessible and navigating around like a webpage is easy enough, but it lacks some serious functionality.

It is much easier to make calls, but receiving/answering… it’s still rough to say the least.

 



Re: how do I set a home page in the new fire fox?

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I got it.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 5:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I set a home page in the new fire fox?

1. Tools/options.


2. Shift-tab until you get to the list of categories, you'll probably be on general.


3. Arrow down to "home".


4. Tab until you reach a combo box that says "homepage and new windows".


5. Pick custom URLs.


6. Tab once and you'll get a combo box that says "paste URL". Type your URL in there.


I literally typed in bard.loc.gov which is what the original poster asked about, and when I ran Firefox again, instead of coming up with a blank page, it came up with the BARD login form asking me for my email address and password. The one thing I don't know how to do is close options. Well, ctrl-w closes them, but if I have a homepage it goes to that, but if I have a blank page, instead of going back to the address bar so I can enter a URL, it closes Firefox. But other than that, it works just fine for me. NVDA 2018.2.1, Firefox 61.0.1, 64-bit, Windows 10, whatever the latest one is, 64-bit obviously.


On 7/30/2018 17:57, Gene wrote:
Open tools, alt t, then type o for options. Wait a moment and tab once.
You are in a list of categories. General is the first list and you
are already on it. If you want to work with another list, down arrow
and you will move to all the categories. If you get stuck and can't
move down further, up arrow and then start down arrowing again. There
are, I believe, eight categories. In this case, general is the one
you want.
Tab through the items. You will see items pertaining to what Firefox
does when it starts. If you have problems, ask here.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Rosemarie Chavarria <mailto:knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Monday, July 30, 2018 5:28 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] how do I set a home page in the new fire fox?

I'm still having trouble setting my home page. I saw something about
drag and drop but there has to e another way.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 3:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I set a home page in the new fire fox?

Thanks, John. I was trying to change my home page right now in the new
firefox but I had a little trouble with it too. I'll give it another shot.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 3:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I set a home page in the new fire fox?

Tools/Options, shift-tab a couple of times and you'll get to a list,
arrow down to home, tab, and there's a combo box where you can pick
options like blank page or whatever. I didn't look at the rest of it
but that's where you set up your home page before, so I assume if you
pick the right option, it will have an edit field to specify the page
you want as your home page.


On 7/30/2018 16:52, brian wrote:
I am using the new fire fox and I have my favorites from ie and I do
have first letternavagation but how do I set my home page I want to
use bard thats the page I have in ie. There is an article that I
found when I googled it but it says to drag and drop. I am having no
issues with nvda reading in fire fox. no issues when down loading I
use save as and then control j to hear the percentages. Fire fox
loads pages faster than in ie.

Brian Sackrider













Re: Initial Skype for desktop 8 feedback

Lino Morales
 

This is why the Feedback Hub is your friend. MS is listening.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...>
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 9:09:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Initial Skype for desktop 8 feedback
 

I'm in total agreement. We shouldn't have to be forced to make companies think of accessibility when developing new programs.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 5:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Initial Skype for desktop 8 feedback

 

A lot of these sorts of problems could be avoided if companies would properly beta test accessibility before foisting inferior new versions on blind people as production programs.  I don't go around crying discrimination, but this sort of thing, releasing an improperly evaluated version and making blind users responsible for alerting companies about problems, then having companies take months or longer to correct problems, is blatantly discriminatory.  If proper evaluation and beta testing is done in general, it should extend to accessibility.  I guess separate is not equal isn't supposed to extend to blind people.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 7:24 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Initial Skype for desktop 8 feedback

 

Hmph, its obvious that skype 7 is more accessible and usable and less
crappy than skype 8 I do hope they fix it.

In the mean time I may have to get chrome and use hangouts or whats app
or something.




On 7/31/2018 11:16 AM, Cristóbal wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> So, some initial feedback after updating to Skype 8.x
>
> Muscle memory issues with the new keystrokes aside which are always going to
> take a bit getting used to, I’m finding certain aspects to be quite
> frustrating. I’ve already written Microsoft about some of this via the
> feedback option in the app as well as on Twitter.
>
> Anyway, the immediate thing is that with this updated version, there doesn’t
> seem to be any means to have the Skype ringer alert go to a separate audio
> source like external or PC speakers. There’s only one option for speakers
> which if you’re using a headset, which I’m pretty sure most if not all of us
> are using is the only viable option. More so for those of us who have a paid
> number. The end result is that when you get an incoming call, the ringer
> quite easily drowns out anything Jaws (in my case) may say. I don’t use the
> audio ducking feature as I find it to be too distracting. One can go into
> the speaker settings in Skype and lower the volume or the speaker settings
> in Windows 10 to lower Skype volume, but all that accomplishes is that in
> addition to the ringer being lowered, the call audio is lowered as well.
> Also, I’ve already twice missed an incoming call because I took my headset
> off for this or that reason and didn’t hear the ringer alert fast enough
> through the headset to put it back on and get to the Skype window in time to
> pick up.
>
> I had mentioned previously that the hotkeys also no longer to appear to be
> universal. Indeed, this is the case. So now, when you get an incoming call,
> you have to scramble to the Skype window since at least for me, I’m not
> taken there automatically and if I’m in a different virtual desktop, the
> taskbar short cut win key plus X, Y or Z won’t work and try to listen to
> figure out if I’m finally in the Skype window which again, as described
> previously, isn’t as easy since the ringer is drowning everything else out.
> The few times I’ve had a chance to take an incoming call and used the
> control plus shift plus P command, Skype actually initiates an outgoing call
> as well as answering the incoming call. This . . . has proven to be
> problematic to say the least.
>
> More than once already, I’ve found myself trying to orientate myself on the
> Skype screen to maybe tab to the answer button instead of using the hotkey
> to avoid this issue with answering/making a duel call, but so far, I haven’t
> been able to access the answer/accept call button in time.
>
> This leads me into the other issue. I so far have not been able to find any
> of the telephone settings for Skype. Settings in Skype appear to be super
> basic. Nothing however for voicemail greeting, managing call forwarding and
> or ringer time. I know I can probably if need be access some of these
> features via the Skype web account, but talk about a needless step
> backwards.
>
> One other thing for Jaws users (I don’t use NVDA enough to know how the
> dictionary manager works), I had a bunch of saved entries for phone numbers
> to speak this or that clinic. It seems that the Skype app is Chrome based
> so, they didn’t port over. I’m sure I can go into my Jaws settings and try
> and play around with changing a dictionary manager file association, but
> again, just another inconvenience.
>
> IN broad terms, the app all in all seems accessible and navigating around
> like a webpage is easy enough, but it lacks some serious functionality.
>
> It is much easier to make calls, but receiving/answering… it’s still rough
> to say the least.
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>



Re: Initial Skype for desktop 8 feedback

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I'm in total agreement. We shouldn't have to be forced to make companies think of accessibility when developing new programs.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 5:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Initial Skype for desktop 8 feedback

 

A lot of these sorts of problems could be avoided if companies would properly beta test accessibility before foisting inferior new versions on blind people as production programs.  I don't go around crying discrimination, but this sort of thing, releasing an improperly evaluated version and making blind users responsible for alerting companies about problems, then having companies take months or longer to correct problems, is blatantly discriminatory.  If proper evaluation and beta testing is done in general, it should extend to accessibility.  I guess separate is not equal isn't supposed to extend to blind people.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 7:24 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Initial Skype for desktop 8 feedback

 

Hmph, its obvious that skype 7 is more accessible and usable and less
crappy than skype 8 I do hope they fix it.

In the mean time I may have to get chrome and use hangouts or whats app
or something.




On 7/31/2018 11:16 AM, Cristóbal wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> So, some initial feedback after updating to Skype 8.x
>
> Muscle memory issues with the new keystrokes aside which are always going to
> take a bit getting used to, I’m finding certain aspects to be quite
> frustrating. I’ve already written Microsoft about some of this via the
> feedback option in the app as well as on Twitter.
>
> Anyway, the immediate thing is that with this updated version, there doesn’t
> seem to be any means to have the Skype ringer alert go to a separate audio
> source like external or PC speakers. There’s only one option for speakers
> which if you’re using a headset, which I’m pretty sure most if not all of us
> are using is the only viable option. More so for those of us who have a paid
> number. The end result is that when you get an incoming call, the ringer
> quite easily drowns out anything Jaws (in my case) may say. I don’t use the
> audio ducking feature as I find it to be too distracting. One can go into
> the speaker settings in Skype and lower the volume or the speaker settings
> in Windows 10 to lower Skype volume, but all that accomplishes is that in
> addition to the ringer being lowered, the call audio is lowered as well.
> Also, I’ve already twice missed an incoming call because I took my headset
> off for this or that reason and didn’t hear the ringer alert fast enough
> through the headset to put it back on and get to the Skype window in time to
> pick up.
>
> I had mentioned previously that the hotkeys also no longer to appear to be
> universal. Indeed, this is the case. So now, when you get an incoming call,
> you have to scramble to the Skype window since at least for me, I’m not
> taken there automatically and if I’m in a different virtual desktop, the
> taskbar short cut win key plus X, Y or Z won’t work and try to listen to
> figure out if I’m finally in the Skype window which again, as described
> previously, isn’t as easy since the ringer is drowning everything else out.
> The few times I’ve had a chance to take an incoming call and used the
> control plus shift plus P command, Skype actually initiates an outgoing call
> as well as answering the incoming call. This . . . has proven to be
> problematic to say the least.
>
> More than once already, I’ve found myself trying to orientate myself on the
> Skype screen to maybe tab to the answer button instead of using the hotkey
> to avoid this issue with answering/making a duel call, but so far, I haven’t
> been able to access the answer/accept call button in time.
>
> This leads me into the other issue. I so far have not been able to find any
> of the telephone settings for Skype. Settings in Skype appear to be super
> basic. Nothing however for voicemail greeting, managing call forwarding and
> or ringer time. I know I can probably if need be access some of these
> features via the Skype web account, but talk about a needless step
> backwards.
>
> One other thing for Jaws users (I don’t use NVDA enough to know how the
> dictionary manager works), I had a bunch of saved entries for phone numbers
> to speak this or that clinic. It seems that the Skype app is Chrome based
> so, they didn’t port over. I’m sure I can go into my Jaws settings and try
> and play around with changing a dictionary manager file association, but
> again, just another inconvenience.
>
> IN broad terms, the app all in all seems accessible and navigating around
> like a webpage is easy enough, but it lacks some serious functionality.
>
> It is much easier to make calls, but receiving/answering… it’s still rough
> to say the least.
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>



Re: how do I set a home page in the new fire fox?

ely.r@...
 

Rosemary,
John has more patients than I have for finding that setting. He is correct and the choices are as they used to was. You can enter a web address or if you are on the page you want, the use current page option is there as well.
Good luck from me as well,
Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 6:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I set a home page in the new fire fox?

Thanks, John. I was trying to change my home page right now in the new firefox but I had a little trouble with it too. I'll give it another shot.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 3:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I set a home page in the new fire fox?

Tools/Options, shift-tab a couple of times and you'll get to a list, arrow down to home, tab, and there's a combo box where you can pick options like blank page or whatever. I didn't look at the rest of it but that's where you set up your home page before, so I assume if you pick the right option, it will have an edit field to specify the page you want as your home page.


On 7/30/2018 16:52, brian wrote:
I am using the new fire fox and I have my favorites from ie and I do
have first letternavagation but how do I set my home page I want to
use bard thats the page I have in ie. There is an article that I
found when I googled it but it says to drag and drop. I am having no
issues with nvda reading in fire fox. no issues when down loading I
use save as and then control j to hear the percentages. Fire fox
loads pages faster than in ie.

Brian Sackrider




Re: how do I set a home page in the new fire fox?

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Gene,

 

I was able to set my home page. Thanks.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 3:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I set a home page in the new fire fox?

 

Open tools, alt t, then type o for options.  Wait a moment and tab once.

You are in a list of categories.  General is the first list and you are already on it.  If you want to work with another list, down arrow and you will move to all the categories.  If you get stuck and can't move down further, up arrow and then start down arrowing again.  There are, I believe, eight categories.  In this case, general is the one you want.

 

Tab through the items.  You will see items pertaining to what Firefox does when it starts.  If you have problems, ask here.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 5:28 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I set a home page in the new fire fox?

 

I'm still having trouble setting my home page. I saw something about drag and drop but there has to e another way.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 3:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I set a home page in the new fire fox?

Thanks, John. I was trying to change my home page right now in the new firefox but I had a little trouble with it too. I'll give it another shot.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 3:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I set a home page in the new fire fox?

Tools/Options, shift-tab a couple of times and you'll get to a list, arrow down to home, tab, and there's a combo box where you can pick options like blank page or whatever. I didn't look at the rest of it but that's where you set up your home page before, so I assume if you pick the right option, it will have an edit field to specify the page you want as your home page.


On 7/30/2018 16:52, brian wrote:
> I am using the new fire fox and I have my favorites from ie and I do
> have first letternavagation but how do I set my home page I want to
> use bard thats the page I have in ie.  There is an article that I
> found when I googled it but it says to drag and drop. I am having no
> issues with nvda reading in fire fox.  no issues when down loading I
> use save as and then control j to hear the percentages.  Fire fox
> loads pages faster than in ie.
>
> Brian Sackrider
>
>
>
>










Re: Initial Skype for desktop 8 feedback

Holger Fiallo <hfiallo@...>
 

skype is not accessible. I checked to see with W10 and jaws 2018. The only way I could get it from the store. There is no alt F to check menue.
 

From: Gene
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 7:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Initial Skype for desktop 8 feedback
 
A lot of these sorts of problems could be avoided if companies would properly beta test accessibility before foisting inferior new versions on blind people as production programs.  I don't go around crying discrimination, but this sort of thing, releasing an improperly evaluated version and making blind users responsible for alerting companies about problems, then having companies take months or longer to correct problems, is blatantly discriminatory.  If proper evaluation and beta testing is done in general, it should extend to accessibility.  I guess separate is not equal isn't supposed to extend to blind people.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 7:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Initial Skype for desktop 8 feedback
 
Hmph, its obvious that skype 7 is more accessible and usable and less
crappy than skype 8 I do hope they fix it.

In the mean time I may have to get chrome and use hangouts or whats app
or something.




On 7/31/2018 11:16 AM, Cristóbal wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> So, some initial feedback after updating to Skype 8.x
>
> Muscle memory issues with the new keystrokes aside which are always going to
> take a bit getting used to, I’m finding certain aspects to be quite
> frustrating. I’ve already written Microsoft about some of this via the
> feedback option in the app as well as on Twitter.
>
> Anyway, the immediate thing is that with this updated version, there doesn’t
> seem to be any means to have the Skype ringer alert go to a separate audio
> source like external or PC speakers. There’s only one option for speakers
> which if you’re using a headset, which I’m pretty sure most if not all of us
> are using is the only viable option. More so for those of us who have a paid
> number. The end result is that when you get an incoming call, the ringer
> quite easily drowns out anything Jaws (in my case) may say. I don’t use the
> audio ducking feature as I find it to be too distracting. One can go into
> the speaker settings in Skype and lower the volume or the speaker settings
> in Windows 10 to lower Skype volume, but all that accomplishes is that in
> addition to the ringer being lowered, the call audio is lowered as well.
> Also, I’ve already twice missed an incoming call because I took my headset
> off for this or that reason and didn’t hear the ringer alert fast enough
> through the headset to put it back on and get to the Skype window in time to
> pick up.
>
> I had mentioned previously that the hotkeys also no longer to appear to be
> universal. Indeed, this is the case. So now, when you get an incoming call,
> you have to scramble to the Skype window since at least for me, I’m not
> taken there automatically and if I’m in a different virtual desktop, the
> taskbar short cut win key plus X, Y or Z won’t work and try to listen to
> figure out if I’m finally in the Skype window which again, as described
> previously, isn’t as easy since the ringer is drowning everything else out.
> The few times I’ve had a chance to take an incoming call and used the
> control plus shift plus P command, Skype actually initiates an outgoing call
> as well as answering the incoming call. This . . . has proven to be
> problematic to say the least.
>
> More than once already, I’ve found myself trying to orientate myself on the
> Skype screen to maybe tab to the answer button instead of using the hotkey
> to avoid this issue with answering/making a duel call, but so far, I haven’t
> been able to access the answer/accept call button in time.
>
> This leads me into the other issue. I so far have not been able to find any
> of the telephone settings for Skype. Settings in Skype appear to be super
> basic. Nothing however for voicemail greeting, managing call forwarding and
> or ringer time. I know I can probably if need be access some of these
> features via the Skype web account, but talk about a needless step
> backwards.
>
> One other thing for Jaws users (I don’t use NVDA enough to know how the
> dictionary manager works), I had a bunch of saved entries for phone numbers
> to speak this or that clinic. It seems that the Skype app is Chrome based
> so, they didn’t port over. I’m sure I can go into my Jaws settings and try
> and play around with changing a dictionary manager file association, but
> again, just another inconvenience.
>
> IN broad terms, the app all in all seems accessible and navigating around
> like a webpage is easy enough, but it lacks some serious functionality.
>
> It is much easier to make calls, but receiving/answering… it’s still rough
> to say the least.
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>




Re: Initial Skype for desktop 8 feedback

 

Well its a pitty they can't just port skype 7 interface over or just keep 7 about or something.

True 7 had its issues but for what it was it was fine.

On 7/31/2018 12:45 PM, Gene wrote:
A lot of these sorts of problems could be avoided if companies would properly beta test accessibility before foisting inferior new versions on blind people as production programs. I don't go around crying discrimination, but this sort of thing, releasing an improperly evaluated version and making blind users responsible for alerting companies about problems, then having companies take months or longer to correct problems, is blatantly discriminatory. If proper evaluation and beta testing is done in general, it should extend to accessibility. I guess separate is not equal isn't supposed to extend to blind people.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 7:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Initial Skype for desktop 8 feedback


Hmph, its obvious that skype 7 is more accessible and usable and less
crappy than skype 8 I do hope they fix it.

In the mean time I may have to get chrome and use hangouts or whats app
or something.




On 7/31/2018 11:16 AM, Cristóbal wrote:
Hello list,

So, some initial feedback after updating to Skype 8.x

Muscle memory issues with the new keystrokes aside which are always going to
take a bit getting used to, I’m finding certain aspects to be quite
frustrating. I’ve already written Microsoft about some of this via the
feedback option in the app as well as on Twitter.

Anyway, the immediate thing is that with this updated version, there doesn’t
seem to be any means to have the Skype ringer alert go to a separate audio
source like external or PC speakers. There’s only one option for speakers
which if you’re using a headset, which I’m pretty sure most if not all of us
are using is the only viable option. More so for those of us who have a paid
number. The end result is that when you get an incoming call, the ringer
quite easily drowns out anything Jaws (in my case) may say. I don’t use the
audio ducking feature as I find it to be too distracting. One can go into
the speaker settings in Skype and lower the volume or the speaker settings
in Windows 10 to lower Skype volume, but all that accomplishes is that in
addition to the ringer being lowered, the call audio is lowered as well.
Also, I’ve already twice missed an incoming call because I took my headset
off for this or that reason and didn’t hear the ringer alert fast enough
through the headset to put it back on and get to the Skype window in time to
pick up.

I had mentioned previously that the hotkeys also no longer to appear to be
universal. Indeed, this is the case. So now, when you get an incoming call,
you have to scramble to the Skype window since at least for me, I’m not
taken there automatically and if I’m in a different virtual desktop, the
taskbar short cut win key plus X, Y or Z won’t work and try to listen to
figure out if I’m finally in the Skype window which again, as described
previously, isn’t as easy since the ringer is drowning everything else out.
The few times I’ve had a chance to take an incoming call and used the
control plus shift plus P command, Skype actually initiates an outgoing call
as well as answering the incoming call. This . . . has proven to be
problematic to say the least.

More than once already, I’ve found myself trying to orientate myself on the
Skype screen to maybe tab to the answer button instead of using the hotkey
to avoid this issue with answering/making a duel call, but so far, I haven’t
been able to access the answer/accept call button in time.

This leads me into the other issue. I so far have not been able to find any
of the telephone settings for Skype. Settings in Skype appear to be super
basic. Nothing however for voicemail greeting, managing call forwarding and
or ringer time. I know I can probably if need be access some of these
features via the Skype web account, but talk about a needless step
backwards.

One other thing for Jaws users (I don’t use NVDA enough to know how the
dictionary manager works), I had a bunch of saved entries for phone numbers
to speak this or that clinic. It seems that the Skype app is Chrome based
so, they didn’t port over. I’m sure I can go into my Jaws settings and try
and play around with changing a dictionary manager file association, but
again, just another inconvenience.

IN broad terms, the app all in all seems accessible and navigating around
like a webpage is easy enough, but it lacks some serious functionality.

It is much easier to make calls, but receiving/answering… it’s still rough
to say the least.









Re: how do I set a home page in the new fire fox?

Gene
 

I should have checked before writing my instructions so that I would have known how different the options dialog is.  I had looked at it briefly months ago but I didn't remember since I only use Quantum to evaluate such matters as stability and speed of loading pages, but I changed almost nothing.
 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: John Isige
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I set a home page in the new fire fox?

Right, I thought everybody was asking about Quantum, but if you're doing
anything older than whenever that started, 58 I think, you want to use
Gene's instructions. Sorry, I should have clarified.


On 7/30/2018 19:40, Gene wrote:
> Here is a correction.  I was giving instructions based on the ESR 52.x
> version.  I just checked in my 62.x version and the interface has been
> very much changed.  My instructions are accurate for older versions,
> before quantum, starting at about 60.x.  The message from another
> member applies to quantum versions, about 60 and higher.
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* John Isige <mailto:gwynn@...>
> *Sent:* Monday, July 30, 2018 7:18 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] how do I set a home page in the new fire fox?
>
> 1. Tools/options.
>
>
> 2. Shift-tab until you get to the list of categories, you'll probably be
> on general.
>
>
> 3. Arrow down to "home".
>
>
> 4. Tab until you reach a combo box that says "homepage and new windows".
>
>
> 5. Pick custom URLs.
>
>
> 6. Tab once and you'll get a combo box that says "paste URL". Type your
> URL in there.
>
>
> I literally typed in bard.loc.gov which is what the original poster
> asked about, and when I ran Firefox again, instead of coming up with a
> blank page, it came up with the BARD login form asking me for my email
> address and password. The one thing I don't know how to do is close
> options. Well, ctrl-w closes them, but if I have a homepage it goes to
> that, but if I have a blank page, instead of going back to the address
> bar so I can enter a URL, it closes Firefox. But other than that, it
> works just fine for me. NVDA 2018.2.1, Firefox 61.0.1, 64-bit, Windows
> 10, whatever the latest one is, 64-bit obviously.
>
>
> On 7/30/2018 17:57, Gene wrote:
> > Open tools, alt t, then type o for options.  Wait a moment and tab once.
> > You are in a list of categories.  General is the first list and you
> > are already on it.  If you want to work with another list, down arrow
> > and you will move to all the categories.  If you get stuck and can't
> > move down further, up arrow and then start down arrowing again.  There
> > are, I believe, eight categories.  In this case, general is the one
> > you want.
> > Tab through the items.  You will see items pertaining to what Firefox
> > does when it starts.  If you have problems, ask here.
> > Gene
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* Rosemarie Chavarria <mailto:knitqueen2007@...>
> > *Sent:* Monday, July 30, 2018 5:28 PM
> > *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> > *Subject:* Re: [nvda] how do I set a home page in the new fire fox?
> >
> > I'm still having trouble setting my home page. I saw something about
> > drag and drop but there has to e another way.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> > [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
> > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 3:21 PM
> > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> > Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I set a home page in the new fire fox?
> >
> > Thanks, John. I was trying to change my home page right now in the new
> > firefox but I had a little trouble with it too. I'll give it another
> shot.
> >
> > Rosemarie
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> > [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Isige
> > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 3:14 PM
> > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> > Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I set a home page in the new fire fox?
> >
> > Tools/Options, shift-tab a couple of times and you'll get to a list,
> > arrow down to home, tab, and there's a combo box where you can pick
> > options like blank page or whatever. I didn't look at the rest of it
> > but that's where you set up your home page before, so I assume if you
> > pick the right option, it will have an edit field to specify the page
> > you want as your home page.
> >
> >
> > On 7/30/2018 16:52, brian wrote:
> > > I am using the new fire fox and I have my favorites from ie and I do
> > > have first letternavagation but how do I set my home page I want to
> > > use bard thats the page I have in ie.  There is an article that I
> > > found when I googled it but it says to drag and drop. I am having no
> > > issues with nvda reading in fire fox.  no issues when down loading I
> > > use save as and then control j to hear the percentages. Fire fox
> > > loads pages faster than in ie.
> > >
> > > Brian Sackrider
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>





Re: Initial Skype for desktop 8 feedback

Gene
 

A lot of these sorts of problems could be avoided if companies would properly beta test accessibility before foisting inferior new versions on blind people as production programs.  I don't go around crying discrimination, but this sort of thing, releasing an improperly evaluated version and making blind users responsible for alerting companies about problems, then having companies take months or longer to correct problems, is blatantly discriminatory.  If proper evaluation and beta testing is done in general, it should extend to accessibility.  I guess separate is not equal isn't supposed to extend to blind people.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Initial Skype for desktop 8 feedback

Hmph, its obvious that skype 7 is more accessible and usable and less
crappy than skype 8 I do hope they fix it.

In the mean time I may have to get chrome and use hangouts or whats app
or something.




On 7/31/2018 11:16 AM, Cristóbal wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> So, some initial feedback after updating to Skype 8.x
>
> Muscle memory issues with the new keystrokes aside which are always going to
> take a bit getting used to, I’m finding certain aspects to be quite
> frustrating. I’ve already written Microsoft about some of this via the
> feedback option in the app as well as on Twitter.
>
> Anyway, the immediate thing is that with this updated version, there doesn’t
> seem to be any means to have the Skype ringer alert go to a separate audio
> source like external or PC speakers. There’s only one option for speakers
> which if you’re using a headset, which I’m pretty sure most if not all of us
> are using is the only viable option. More so for those of us who have a paid
> number. The end result is that when you get an incoming call, the ringer
> quite easily drowns out anything Jaws (in my case) may say. I don’t use the
> audio ducking feature as I find it to be too distracting. One can go into
> the speaker settings in Skype and lower the volume or the speaker settings
> in Windows 10 to lower Skype volume, but all that accomplishes is that in
> addition to the ringer being lowered, the call audio is lowered as well.
> Also, I’ve already twice missed an incoming call because I took my headset
> off for this or that reason and didn’t hear the ringer alert fast enough
> through the headset to put it back on and get to the Skype window in time to
> pick up.
>
> I had mentioned previously that the hotkeys also no longer to appear to be
> universal. Indeed, this is the case. So now, when you get an incoming call,
> you have to scramble to the Skype window since at least for me, I’m not
> taken there automatically and if I’m in a different virtual desktop, the
> taskbar short cut win key plus X, Y or Z won’t work and try to listen to
> figure out if I’m finally in the Skype window which again, as described
> previously, isn’t as easy since the ringer is drowning everything else out.
> The few times I’ve had a chance to take an incoming call and used the
> control plus shift plus P command, Skype actually initiates an outgoing call
> as well as answering the incoming call. This . . . has proven to be
> problematic to say the least.
>
> More than once already, I’ve found myself trying to orientate myself on the
> Skype screen to maybe tab to the answer button instead of using the hotkey
> to avoid this issue with answering/making a duel call, but so far, I haven’t
> been able to access the answer/accept call button in time.
>
> This leads me into the other issue. I so far have not been able to find any
> of the telephone settings for Skype. Settings in Skype appear to be super
> basic. Nothing however for voicemail greeting, managing call forwarding and
> or ringer time. I know I can probably if need be access some of these
> features via the Skype web account, but talk about a needless step
> backwards.
>
> One other thing for Jaws users (I don’t use NVDA enough to know how the
> dictionary manager works), I had a bunch of saved entries for phone numbers
> to speak this or that clinic. It seems that the Skype app is Chrome based
> so, they didn’t port over. I’m sure I can go into my Jaws settings and try
> and play around with changing a dictionary manager file association, but
> again, just another inconvenience.
>
> IN broad terms, the app all in all seems accessible and navigating around
> like a webpage is easy enough, but it lacks some serious functionality.
>
> It is much easier to make calls, but receiving/answering… it’s still rough
> to say the least.
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>




Re: how do I set a home page in the new fire fox?

John Isige
 

Right, I thought everybody was asking about Quantum, but if you're doing
anything older than whenever that started, 58 I think, you want to use
Gene's instructions. Sorry, I should have clarified.

On 7/30/2018 19:40, Gene wrote:
Here is a correction.  I was giving instructions based on the ESR 52.x
version.  I just checked in my 62.x version and the interface has been
very much changed.  My instructions are accurate for older versions,
before quantum, starting at about 60.x.  The message from another
member applies to quantum versions, about 60 and higher.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* John Isige <mailto:gwynn@tds.net>
*Sent:* Monday, July 30, 2018 7:18 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] how do I set a home page in the new fire fox?

1. Tools/options.


2. Shift-tab until you get to the list of categories, you'll probably be
on general.


3. Arrow down to "home".


4. Tab until you reach a combo box that says "homepage and new windows".


5. Pick custom URLs.


6. Tab once and you'll get a combo box that says "paste URL". Type your
URL in there.


I literally typed in bard.loc.gov which is what the original poster
asked about, and when I ran Firefox again, instead of coming up with a
blank page, it came up with the BARD login form asking me for my email
address and password. The one thing I don't know how to do is close
options. Well, ctrl-w closes them, but if I have a homepage it goes to
that, but if I have a blank page, instead of going back to the address
bar so I can enter a URL, it closes Firefox. But other than that, it
works just fine for me. NVDA 2018.2.1, Firefox 61.0.1, 64-bit, Windows
10, whatever the latest one is, 64-bit obviously.


On 7/30/2018 17:57, Gene wrote:
Open tools, alt t, then type o for options.  Wait a moment and tab once.
You are in a list of categories.  General is the first list and you
are already on it.  If you want to work with another list, down arrow
and you will move to all the categories.  If you get stuck and can't
move down further, up arrow and then start down arrowing again.  There
are, I believe, eight categories.  In this case, general is the one
you want.
Tab through the items.  You will see items pertaining to what Firefox
does when it starts.  If you have problems, ask here.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Rosemarie Chavarria <mailto:knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Monday, July 30, 2018 5:28 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] how do I set a home page in the new fire fox?

I'm still having trouble setting my home page. I saw something about
drag and drop but there has to e another way.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 3:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I set a home page in the new fire fox?

Thanks, John. I was trying to change my home page right now in the new
firefox but I had a little trouble with it too. I'll give it another
shot.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 3:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I set a home page in the new fire fox?

Tools/Options, shift-tab a couple of times and you'll get to a list,
arrow down to home, tab, and there's a combo box where you can pick
options like blank page or whatever. I didn't look at the rest of it
but that's where you set up your home page before, so I assume if you
pick the right option, it will have an edit field to specify the page
you want as your home page.


On 7/30/2018 16:52, brian wrote:
I am using the new fire fox and I have my favorites from ie and I do
have first letternavagation but how do I set my home page I want to
use bard thats the page I have in ie.  There is an article that I
found when I googled it but it says to drag and drop. I am having no
issues with nvda reading in fire fox.  no issues when down loading I
use save as and then control j to hear the percentages. Fire fox
loads pages faster than in ie.

Brian Sackrider
















Re: how do I set a home page in the new fire fox?

Gene
 

Here is a correction.  I was giving instructions based on the ESR 52.x version.  I just checked in my 62.x version and the interface has been very much changed.  My instructions are accurate for older versions, before quantum, starting at about 60.x.  The message from another member applies to quantum versions, about 60 and higher.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: John Isige
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I set a home page in the new fire fox?

1. Tools/options.


2. Shift-tab until you get to the list of categories, you'll probably be
on general.


3. Arrow down to "home".


4. Tab until you reach a combo box that says "homepage and new windows".


5. Pick custom URLs.


6. Tab once and you'll get a combo box that says "paste URL". Type your
URL in there.


I literally typed in bard.loc.gov which is what the original poster
asked about, and when I ran Firefox again, instead of coming up with a
blank page, it came up with the BARD login form asking me for my email
address and password. The one thing I don't know how to do is close
options. Well, ctrl-w closes them, but if I have a homepage it goes to
that, but if I have a blank page, instead of going back to the address
bar so I can enter a URL, it closes Firefox. But other than that, it
works just fine for me. NVDA 2018.2.1, Firefox 61.0.1, 64-bit, Windows
10, whatever the latest one is, 64-bit obviously.


On 7/30/2018 17:57, Gene wrote:
> Open tools, alt t, then type o for options.  Wait a moment and tab once.
> You are in a list of categories.  General is the first list and you
> are already on it.  If you want to work with another list, down arrow
> and you will move to all the categories.  If you get stuck and can't
> move down further, up arrow and then start down arrowing again.  There
> are, I believe, eight categories.  In this case, general is the one
> you want.
> Tab through the items.  You will see items pertaining to what Firefox
> does when it starts.  If you have problems, ask here.
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Rosemarie Chavarria <mailto:knitqueen2007@...>
> *Sent:* Monday, July 30, 2018 5:28 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] how do I set a home page in the new fire fox?
>
> I'm still having trouble setting my home page. I saw something about
> drag and drop but there has to e another way.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 3:21 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I set a home page in the new fire fox?
>
> Thanks, John. I was trying to change my home page right now in the new
> firefox but I had a little trouble with it too. I'll give it another shot.
>
> Rosemarie
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Isige
> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 3:14 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I set a home page in the new fire fox?
>
> Tools/Options, shift-tab a couple of times and you'll get to a list,
> arrow down to home, tab, and there's a combo box where you can pick
> options like blank page or whatever. I didn't look at the rest of it
> but that's where you set up your home page before, so I assume if you
> pick the right option, it will have an edit field to specify the page
> you want as your home page.
>
>
> On 7/30/2018 16:52, brian wrote:
> > I am using the new fire fox and I have my favorites from ie and I do
> > have first letternavagation but how do I set my home page I want to
> > use bard thats the page I have in ie.  There is an article that I
> > found when I googled it but it says to drag and drop. I am having no
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> > use save as and then control j to hear the percentages.  Fire fox
> > loads pages faster than in ie.
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