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Re: Firefox ESR

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My only moans ar the download dialogue is not read and you cannot have navigational sounds any more.
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From: "JM Casey" <crystallogic@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 3:11 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox ESR


This brings me to the question – what sort of issues are users of Firefox 58 and NVDA experiencing? I know that other major screen-reader does not work with any of the new FF versions, but nVDA does – seemingly quite well in fact.







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: February 21, 2018 7:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox ESR



This isn't just something Mozilla does every now and then. Extended Support releases may be used by anyone but they are intended for businesses and other institutions that don't want the program to be upgraded frequently. The extended support release receives all security updates but the program itself doesn't upgrade for one year after release.



The next ESR release will be this summer sometime in June, as I recall.



Because of all the changes being made in firefox now that may impair performance for blind users and interfere with accessibility of some web sites, those who don't want to use the new versions are instructed to use the current ESR version which is version 52 of the program and was released before these changes took place. Those who want to try the new versions, in particular those who want to try new versions and send feedback regarding problems and progress are encouraged to try the new versions as they are released.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Andrea Sherry <mailto:sherryan@...>

Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 5:40 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox ESR



Thanks for that.

Andrea


On 22/02/2018 10:11 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
"ESR" means Extended Support Release.

Every now and then, a Firefox release is labeled as ESR, and it means they
promise to support it for longer than the other in-between releases.

There is no reason to switch from a standard release to an ESR release unless:

a) you like always running the latest release, and the ESR release is the
latest one

or

b) you are currently running a no-longer-supported release, you don't want to
update to the latest release, but there's an ESR release somewhere in between
which you are happy with.

Basically, do not run unsupported software. If security vulnerabilities are
discovered, you may well run into problems and they will be nobody else's
fault.

So, either run a recent (supported) standard version, or run an ESR version
(which may be older, but has support for longer), but either way, update
before that version becomes unsupported.

The above is true for all software, not just Firefox. Not all projects have
ESR versions, but many do - some are known as LTR - Long Term Release.


Antony.

On Wednesday 21 February 2018 at 23:58:42, Andrea Sherry wrote:

What is this? Is it necessary to use instead of regular Firefox?

Andrea
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Re: Bug in espeak ng used in NVDA Next

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I'm still using the old Espeak in the speech palyer in espeak as the weird ways some words are said in ng is still a problem.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 3:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Bug in espeak ng used in NVDA Next


Hi Simon,

What version of eSpeak-NG are you using? Looking at:
https://github.com/espeak-ng/espeak-ng/releases indicates that the latest
version is 1.49.2, which we updated to prior to NVDA 2017.4.

Having said that, I know there are still issues with eSpeak, some of which
are tracked on our issue tracker, and some on eSpeak-NG's here:
https://github.com/espeak-ng/espeak-ng/issues

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 5:35 AM, Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger@...
wrote:
Hi all,

The currently used espeak ng has a bug in the german language.
The bug has been fixed and espeak ng should be updated to latest master.
haven't opened a ticket yet because i thought i'll not make to much
noise about it.
though i can open a ticket as well if the devs prefer that.

Greetings and thanks,
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Re: Firefox ESR

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Yes but its the esr which the last update has slowed down for staarting for some reason.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 4:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox ESR


esr is extended support release.
for example: firefox 52esr recieves security updates of firefox 52 until 61.
but regular versions be updated in at least 6weeks and maybe some
people dont want to miss previous features or dont like new features
and changes of updates.

On 2/22/18, JM Casey <crystallogic@...> wrote:
This brings me to the question – what sort of issues are users of Firefox 58
and NVDA experiencing? I know that other major screen-reader does not work
with any of the new FF versions, but nVDA does – seemingly quite well in
fact.







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: February 21, 2018 7:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox ESR



This isn't just something Mozilla does every now and then. Extended Support
releases may be used by anyone but they are intended for businesses and
other institutions that don't want the program to be upgraded frequently.
The extended support release receives all security updates but the program
itself doesn't upgrade for one year after release.



The next ESR release will be this summer sometime in June, as I recall.



Because of all the changes being made in firefox now that may impair
performance for blind users and interfere with accessibility of some web
sites, those who don't want to use the new versions are instructed to use
the current ESR version which is version 52 of the program and was released
before these changes took place. Those who want to try the new versions, in
particular those who want to try new versions and send feedback regarding
problems and progress are encouraged to try the new versions as they are
released.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Andrea Sherry <mailto:sherryan@...>

Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 5:40 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox ESR



Thanks for that.

Andrea


On 22/02/2018 10:11 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
"ESR" means Extended Support Release.

Every now and then, a Firefox release is labeled as ESR, and it means
they
promise to support it for longer than the other in-between releases.

There is no reason to switch from a standard release to an ESR release
unless:

a) you like always running the latest release, and the ESR release is the
latest one

or

b) you are currently running a no-longer-supported release, you don't want
to
update to the latest release, but there's an ESR release somewhere in
between
which you are happy with.

Basically, do not run unsupported software. If security vulnerabilities
are
discovered, you may well run into problems and they will be nobody else's
fault.

So, either run a recent (supported) standard version, or run an ESR
version
(which may be older, but has support for longer), but either way, update
before that version becomes unsupported.

The above is true for all software, not just Firefox. Not all projects
have
ESR versions, but many do - some are known as LTR - Long Term Release.


Antony.

On Wednesday 21 February 2018 at 23:58:42, Andrea Sherry wrote:

What is this? Is it necessary to use instead of regular Firefox?

Andrea
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Re: Windows 10 detected of virus in Virtual Recorder

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I tend to just tell it to ignore it if things happen like this. In msse you can do this.
Obviously you need to be sure of the origin of the software.

it does the same to passview some software I use to get back peoples forgotten email client passwords too.
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From: "Lenron" <lenron93@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 detected of virus in Virtual Recorder


stupid anti virus crap always breaking programs.

On 2/22/18, Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@...> wrote:
Now even my backup in my flash drive has been removed. Does anyone here
the link to download the installer for Virtual Recorder. I appreciate
your response.

Robert Mendoza

On 2/22/2018 3:03 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:
I will give it a try once again. Thanks, Shaun!

Robert Mendoza

On 2/22/2018 11:07 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hmph its just windows defender targeting the blind again.

Programs your av detects is ok suddenly are problems, just exclude
that folder, you may have to reinstall virtual recorder.




On 22/02/2018 12:19 p.m., Robert Mendoza wrote:
Early this morning when I am about to run the Virtual recorder and
haven't use it for awhile the Windows Defender of my Windows 10
detected that there is a virus that's need to be scanned offline.
not sure what happened but before the same program has been used
with no problem for couple of months ago. Any thought or experience
for this. Thanks.








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Re: virtual recorder

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Yes I know. I'm not as power user as you are, but I have an xp machine upstairs which accidentally got avast on it. I got a sighted person to uninstall it, but now there are a few core services still running which cannot be removed without, according to my research, using safe mode and a special remover from avast.

I'm sure all this seemed like a good idea to the vendors, but to the end user they are a pain. on our studio windows 7 machine avast seems to have been gotten rid of but there are still one or too bits that cannot be deleted claiming the partition that they refer to is in use but cannot be accessed from windows. How do I really know if avast is good or has it seated some bits of itself out of sight and is now sending data back? I'm not about to reformat that would be both impossible and stop the paper being published for a couple of weeks.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <@smeveriss>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 8:31 AM
Subject: [nvda] virtual recorder


Hi.

http://opopanax.net/dl is where all of the virtual recorder is.

Recently I have come to the conclusion that if it wasn't for ransomware, I think I'd actually go without antivirus, a firewall or any security software at all.

It seems that all a lot of this stuff does is target things that were working fine and screw them over.

The blind are targeted a lot.

Bgt excluded since that and how its written is just something antiviruses don't like.

The only way to fix the issue is exclude parts of your hard drive.

I have half a mind to just exclude all my drives and take my chances.

I do this to a few folders in my backup drives but to be honest I do wander at how security software has degraded not just in accessibility but functionality as well.

In the old days I used to use zone alarm and a few other firewalls.

Lets see, load 1, and suddenly the antivirus software says its bad, part of it is deleted, the system is screwed.

A reformat fixes it but now I need to find another.

The other certainly works, blocking everything including changed ips and remote shares which may have been fine if it was not inaccessible, and if I had a static ip it would be fine but I don't have one of those.

So printers drives etc.

I simply abandoned sharing and internal remoting all together.

Msse doesn't seem to be that bad but I can see I am going to have to restructure bits of my hard drive.

Firstly, directories for games, office apps, etc, and have those excluded, then an unprocessed folder in my root just so I can find out what exactly is not a virus when something is caught.

That may be a blessing as I have to structure my drives which I don't do.

On the other hand it takes time.

I am unsure about usb drives I guess you have to have apps in portable apps on e f g etc and exclude that and hope like hell nothing screws up.

And while this promotes best practice, it certainly stops me trying to get something better than crappy msse/defender.

If the crappy antivirus and malware software has so much false alarms what will a really good bit of software do.

No, I know what that did, I trialed on the network something and it decided that windows was a virus.

2 weeks later and 3 reformats for the 3 computers and reinstalling of things and either buying, or trying to get back lost licences to products I allready own, I went online to the site I got the programs to complain, and they had up and left.

And were nowhere on the net at all.




virtual recorder

 

Hi.

http://opopanax.net/dl is where all of the virtual recorder is.

Recently I have come to the conclusion that if it wasn't for ransomware, I think I'd actually go without antivirus, a firewall or any security software at all.

It seems that all a lot of this stuff does is target things that were working fine and screw them over.

The blind are targeted a lot.

Bgt excluded since that and how its written is just something antiviruses don't like.

The only way to fix the issue is exclude parts of your hard drive.

I have half a mind to just exclude all my drives and take my chances.

I do this to a few folders in my backup drives but to be honest I do wander at how security software has degraded not just in accessibility but functionality as well.

In the old days I used to use zone alarm and a few other firewalls.

Lets see, load 1, and suddenly the antivirus software says its bad, part of it is deleted, the system is screwed.

A reformat fixes it but now I need to find another.

The other certainly works, blocking everything including changed ips and remote shares which may have been fine if it was not inaccessible, and if I had a static ip it would be fine but I don't have one of those.

So printers drives etc.

I simply abandoned sharing and internal remoting all together.

Msse doesn't seem to be that bad but I can see I am going to have to restructure bits of my hard drive.

Firstly, directories for games, office apps, etc, and have those excluded, then an unprocessed folder in my root just so I can find out what exactly is not a virus when something is caught.

That may be a blessing as I have to structure my drives which I don't do.

On the other hand it takes time.

I am unsure about usb drives I guess you have to have apps in portable apps on e f g etc and exclude that and hope like hell nothing screws up.

And while this promotes best practice, it certainly stops me trying to get something better than crappy msse/defender.

If the crappy antivirus and malware software has so much false alarms what will a really good bit of software do.

No, I know what that did, I trialed on the network something and it decided that windows was a virus.

2 weeks later and 3 reformats for the 3 computers and reinstalling of things and either buying, or trying to get back lost licences to products I allready own, I went online to the site I got the programs to complain, and they had up and left.

And were nowhere on the net at all.


Re: Windows 10 detected of virus in Virtual Recorder

Lenron
 

stupid anti virus crap always breaking programs.

On 2/22/18, Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@...> wrote:
Now even my backup in my flash drive has been removed. Does anyone here
the link to download the installer for Virtual Recorder. I appreciate
your response.

Robert Mendoza

On 2/22/2018 3:03 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:
I will give it a try once again. Thanks, Shaun!

Robert Mendoza

On 2/22/2018 11:07 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hmph its just windows defender targeting the blind again.

Programs your av detects is ok suddenly are problems, just exclude
that folder, you may have to reinstall virtual recorder.




On 22/02/2018 12:19 p.m., Robert Mendoza wrote:
Early this morning when I am about to run the Virtual recorder and
haven't use it for awhile the Windows Defender of my Windows 10
detected that there is a virus that's need to be scanned offline.
not sure what happened but before the same program has been used
with no problem for couple of months ago. Any thought or experience
for this. Thanks.







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Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762


Re: Windows 10 detected of virus in Virtual Recorder

Robert Mendoza
 

Now even my backup in my flash drive has been removed. Does anyone here the link to download the installer for Virtual Recorder. I appreciate your response.

Robert Mendoza

On 2/22/2018 3:03 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:
I will give it a try once again. Thanks, Shaun!

Robert Mendoza

On 2/22/2018 11:07 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hmph its just windows defender targeting the blind again.

Programs your av detects is ok suddenly are problems, just exclude that folder, you may have to reinstall virtual recorder.




On 22/02/2018 12:19 p.m., Robert Mendoza wrote:
Early this morning when I am about to run the Virtual recorder and haven't use it for awhile the Windows Defender of my Windows 10 detected that there is a virus that's need to be scanned offline. not sure what happened but before the same program has been used with no problem for couple of months ago. Any thought or experience for this. Thanks.




Re: Windows 10 detected of virus in Virtual Recorder

Robert Mendoza
 

I will give it a try once again. Thanks, Shaun!

Robert Mendoza

On 2/22/2018 11:07 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hmph its just windows defender targeting the blind again.

Programs your av detects is ok suddenly are problems, just exclude that folder, you may have to reinstall virtual recorder.




On 22/02/2018 12:19 p.m., Robert Mendoza wrote:
Early this morning when I am about to run the Virtual recorder and haven't use it for awhile the Windows Defender of my Windows 10 detected that there is a virus that's need to be scanned offline. not sure what happened but before the same program has been used with no problem for couple of months ago. Any thought or experience for this. Thanks.


Re: quickbooks

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi John,

Sorry to hear that.  If you do try it again, it would be great if you could document any issues you encounter on our issue tracker: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues as then we will know where we stand when looking at it afresh.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 4:54 PM, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:
OK, thanks.  I did try it originally and it seemed pretty lame.

On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 22:25:34 -0500,
Quentin Christensen wrote:
>
> [1  <text/plain; UTF-8 (7bit)>]
> [2  <text/html; UTF-8 (quoted-printable)>]
> Hi John,
>
> The short answer would seem to be that no, there doesn't appear to have been any updates. The add-on is still available from the add-ons page, however as it was never listed as "stable", you need to go to the "addons under development"
> link. The direct link for the addon is: https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/quickBooks2014.en.html
>
> I must admit, I haven't tried Quickbooks lately, so I am not sure how complete or incomplete it is, or whether newer versions of Quickbooks have changed anything.
>
> So, if you do try it, do please let us know how it goes.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Quentin.
>
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 2:22 AM, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:
>
>  Hi. A while ago there was a quickbooks addon, but it never seemed to
>  go anywhere -- I was just wondering if there has been any development
>  over the last year or two in the addin.
>
>  Thanks.
>
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Re: quickbooks

John Covici
 

OK, thanks. I did try it originally and it seemed pretty lame.

On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 22:25:34 -0500,
Quentin Christensen wrote:

[1 <text/plain; UTF-8 (7bit)>]
[2 <text/html; UTF-8 (quoted-printable)>]
Hi John,

The short answer would seem to be that no, there doesn't appear to have been any updates. The add-on is still available from the add-ons page, however as it was never listed as "stable", you need to go to the "addons under development"
link. The direct link for the addon is: https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/quickBooks2014.en.html

I must admit, I haven't tried Quickbooks lately, so I am not sure how complete or incomplete it is, or whether newer versions of Quickbooks have changed anything.

So, if you do try it, do please let us know how it goes.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 2:22 AM, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:

Hi. A while ago there was a quickbooks addon, but it never seemed to
go anywhere -- I was just wondering if there has been any development
over the last year or two in the addin.

Thanks.

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

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covici@...

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Re: Firefox ESR

 

esr is extended support release.
for example: firefox 52esr recieves security updates of firefox 52 until 61.
but regular versions be updated in at least 6weeks and maybe some
people dont want to miss previous features or dont like new features
and changes of updates.

On 2/22/18, JM Casey <crystallogic@...> wrote:
This brings me to the question – what sort of issues are users of Firefox 58
and NVDA experiencing? I know that other major screen-reader does not work
with any of the new FF versions, but nVDA does – seemingly quite well in
fact.







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: February 21, 2018 7:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox ESR



This isn't just something Mozilla does every now and then. Extended Support
releases may be used by anyone but they are intended for businesses and
other institutions that don't want the program to be upgraded frequently.
The extended support release receives all security updates but the program
itself doesn't upgrade for one year after release.



The next ESR release will be this summer sometime in June, as I recall.



Because of all the changes being made in firefox now that may impair
performance for blind users and interfere with accessibility of some web
sites, those who don't want to use the new versions are instructed to use
the current ESR version which is version 52 of the program and was released
before these changes took place. Those who want to try the new versions, in
particular those who want to try new versions and send feedback regarding
problems and progress are encouraged to try the new versions as they are
released.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Andrea Sherry <mailto:sherryan@...>

Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 5:40 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox ESR



Thanks for that.

Andrea


On 22/02/2018 10:11 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
"ESR" means Extended Support Release.

Every now and then, a Firefox release is labeled as ESR, and it means
they
promise to support it for longer than the other in-between releases.

There is no reason to switch from a standard release to an ESR release
unless:

a) you like always running the latest release, and the ESR release is the
latest one

or

b) you are currently running a no-longer-supported release, you don't want
to
update to the latest release, but there's an ESR release somewhere in
between
which you are happy with.

Basically, do not run unsupported software. If security vulnerabilities
are
discovered, you may well run into problems and they will be nobody else's
fault.

So, either run a recent (supported) standard version, or run an ESR
version
(which may be older, but has support for longer), but either way, update
before that version becomes unsupported.

The above is true for all software, not just Firefox. Not all projects
have
ESR versions, but many do - some are known as LTR - Long Term Release.


Antony.

On Wednesday 21 February 2018 at 23:58:42, Andrea Sherry wrote:

What is this? Is it necessary to use instead of regular Firefox?

Andrea
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I may disobey God
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from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
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Re: Support for Chromium

 

hi.
do you mean chromium which i asked in my previous post about it?
the opensource project with many features and environment like google chrome?
is it inaccessible if you answer my question, i appreciate it.

On 2/22/18, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
There is an Sx access google chrome list. I'll have to find the subscribe
links but they are a google group. So maybe going to the groups google home
page and wearching there would help as well.

Good luck.

On Feb 21, 2018, at 3:35 PM, Adriani Botez <adriani.botez@...>
wrote:

Dear all,

is it possible to improve support for this project?
https://github.com/bloomberg/chromium.bb

This is the browser used hwen working in bloomberg. It would help many
users
who want to apply for jobs in finance.

I will test it on my work and provide you with more feedback on what
exactly
is not working. But it would be good if some people here can test it too.

Thanks.

Best
Adriani







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I would not do it.
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Re: Bug in espeak ng used in NVDA Next

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Simon,

What version of eSpeak-NG are you using?  Looking at: https://github.com/espeak-ng/espeak-ng/releases indicates that the latest version is 1.49.2, which we updated to prior to NVDA 2017.4.

Having said that, I know there are still issues with eSpeak, some of which are tracked on our issue tracker, and some on eSpeak-NG's here: https://github.com/espeak-ng/espeak-ng/issues

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 5:35 AM, Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger@...> wrote:
Hi all,

The currently used espeak ng has a bug in the german language.
The bug has been fixed and espeak ng should be updated to latest master.
haven't opened a ticket yet because i thought i'll not make to much
noise about it.
though i can open a ticket as well if the devs prefer that.

Greetings and thanks,
Simon



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Re: quickbooks

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi John,

The short answer would seem to be that no, there doesn't appear to have been any updates.  The add-on is still available from the add-ons page, however as it was never listed as "stable", you need to go to the "addons under development" link.  The direct link for the addon is: https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/quickBooks2014.en.html

I must admit, I haven't tried Quickbooks lately, so I am not sure how complete or incomplete it is, or whether newer versions of Quickbooks have changed anything.

So, if you do try it, do please let us know how it goes.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 2:22 AM, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:
Hi.  A while ago there was a quickbooks addon, but it  never seemed to
go anywhere -- I was just wondering if there has been any development
over the last year or two in the addin.

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Re: Firefox ESR

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

This brings me to the question – what sort of issues are users of Firefox 58 and NVDA experiencing? I know that other major screen-reader does not work with any of the new FF versions, but nVDA does – seemingly quite well in fact.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: February 21, 2018 7:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox ESR

 

This isn't just something Mozilla does every now and then.  Extended Support releases may be used by anyone but they are intended for businesses and other institutions that don't want the program to be upgraded frequently.  The extended support release receives all security updates but the program itself doesn't upgrade for one year after release. 

 

The next ESR release will be this summer sometime in June, as I recall. 

 

Because of all the changes being made in firefox now that may impair performance for blind users and interfere with accessibility of some web sites, those who don't want to use the new versions are instructed to use the current ESR version which is version 52 of the program and was released before these changes took place.  Those who want to try the new versions, in particular those who want to try new versions and send feedback regarding problems and progress are encouraged to try the new versions as they are released.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 5:40 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox ESR

 

Thanks for that.

Andrea


On 22/02/2018 10:11 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
> "ESR" means Extended Support Release.
>
> Every now and then, a Firefox release is labeled as ESR, and it means they
> promise to support it for longer than the other in-between releases.
>
> There is no reason to switch from a standard release to an ESR release unless:
>
> a) you like always running the latest release, and the ESR release is the
> latest one
>
> or
>
> b) you are currently running a no-longer-supported release, you don't want to
> update to the latest release, but there's an ESR release somewhere in between
> which you are happy with.
>
> Basically, do not run unsupported software.  If security vulnerabilities are
> discovered, you may well run into problems and they will be nobody else's
> fault.
>
> So, either run a recent (supported) standard version, or run an ESR version
> (which may be older, but has support for longer), but either way, update
> before that version becomes unsupported.
>
> The above is true for all software, not just Firefox.  Not all projects have
> ESR versions, but many do - some are known as LTR - Long Term Release.
>
>
> Antony.
>
> On Wednesday 21 February 2018 at 23:58:42, Andrea Sherry wrote:
>
>> What is this? Is it necessary to use instead of regular Firefox?
>>
>> Andrea

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Re: Firefox ESR

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

That all makes perfect sense to me.

 

I’m using Office 2010 on this Windows 10 machine. Quite old, but it is what I have and it still works well. I no longer use IE and I keep Firefox up to date. My girlfriend uses Chrome. Internet browsers of course should be updated.

 

I do have the last version of winamp. 5.666 or something like that. I was having some trouble with the older version initially installed on this machine, and the last build of Winamp is recommended to Windows 10 users, for two or three reasons that I read about at the time but can’t currently remember. It works pretty well here for music and is pretty stable, only I can’t create the silly incredibly large playlists I used to on XP without Windows freaking out. I think that’s more of a Win 10 than a Winamp issue though. It thinks winamp has crashed because it won’t “respond” while adding a myriad folders to a playlist. One just has to adapt. J

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: February 21, 2018 8:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox ESR

 

Openbook is one example.  Winamp, if you don't use it for files that might be malicious from untrustworthy sources such as certain untrustworthy web sites.  I use Winamp to play safe files, mainly things I've recorded myself or digitized myself or that come from known trusted sources.  MP3 Direct cut, a recording program is another example.

 

Depending on how you use your word processor program, that may not need to be upgraded.  If it no longer receives security upgrades, my understanding is that if you disable things that might allow malicious code to run, such as if your program runs macros automatically, that you can use it safely.  Of course, if you need to use newer file types, you won't be able to do that.  You might be able to read them, but not alter them and save them in the same file type. 

 

I would think that if I thought about programs, I could think of many more but I can't just now.  Others may want to give examples but what I've said gives various examples of some programs that you can use even if they may not receive security updates.

 

I've seen complaints about the latest version of Winamp in terms of stability.  It would normally be a good idea to use the newest version if you are playing files you aren't very confident in.  But there are times when an older version of a program is superior.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 6:51 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox ESR

 

What software does not run in such an environment?

I can only think of machines without a network connection, and that's hardly
useful these days (secure, agreed, but what can they do?).


Antony.

On Thursday 22 February 2018 at 00:39:12, Gene wrote:

> Not all software.  All software that you use in an environment where it
> comes into contact with possibly malicious content such as browsers.
> There is lots of software that you don't need to upgrade.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Antony Stone
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 5:11 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox ESR
>
>
> "ESR" means Extended Support Release.
>
> Every now and then, a Firefox release is labeled as ESR, and it means they
> promise to support it for longer than the other in-between releases.
>
> There is no reason to switch from a standard release to an ESR release
> unless:
>
> a) you like always running the latest release, and the ESR release is the
> latest one
>
> or
>
> b) you are currently running a no-longer-supported release, you don't want
> to update to the latest release, but there's an ESR release somewhere in
> between which you are happy with.
>
> Basically, do not run unsupported software.  If security vulnerabilities
> are discovered, you may well run into problems and they will be nobody
> else's fault.
>
> So, either run a recent (supported) standard version, or run an ESR version
> (which may be older, but has support for longer), but either way, update
> before that version becomes unsupported.
>
> The above is true for all software, not just Firefox.  Not all projects
> have ESR versions, but many do - some are known as LTR - Long Term
> Release.
>
>
> Antony.
>
> On Wednesday 21 February 2018 at 23:58:42, Andrea Sherry wrote:
> > What is this? Is it necessary to use instead of regular Firefox?
> >
> > Andrea

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Re: Windows 10 detected of virus in Virtual Recorder

 

Hmph its just windows defender targeting the blind again.

Programs your av detects is ok suddenly are problems, just exclude that folder, you may have to reinstall virtual recorder.

On 22/02/2018 12:19 p.m., Robert Mendoza wrote:
Early this morning when I am about to run the Virtual recorder and haven't use it for awhile the Windows Defender of my Windows 10 detected that there is a virus that's need to be scanned offline. not sure what happened but before the same program has been used with no problem for couple of months ago. Any thought or experience for this. Thanks.


Re: Vocalizer Expressive sapi voices

 

I also don't care for the fact one has to make sure you deactivate your voices before an upgrade though if its possible to do it and or backup your licence without having all sorts of issues well maybe.

On 22/02/2018 2:19 a.m., Chris Shook wrote:
No, the sapi package does not include Eloquence. However, you can buy the eloquence package for sixty-nine  dollars.


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Re: Vocalizer Expressive sapi voices

 

Well I am not paying 69 bucks for eloquence.

Interestingly the tiflocomp voices and code factory voices are 115 bucks, is it worth me to buy the newer code factory ones which is better or should I try a different voice manufacturer.

Due to them no longer sold and other things I have completely clobbered the inoetics voices, codes, recipts and files from my system and all drives, and won't be buying anything from them in the future, a waste of 80 bucks sadly.

I do have the old scansoft voices but I do want a 64 bit voice package and no eloquence is not my choice for voices.

Its a pitty acapella sapi voices cost so much to buy on their infovox format.

Buying them for nvda just like the code factory voices is nice but I want my voices in other things.

There is the ivona which could cost a bit but to be honest what should I go for.

On 22/02/2018 2:19 a.m., Chris Shook wrote:
No, the sapi package does not include Eloquence. However, you can buy the eloquence package for sixty-nine  dollars.


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