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Re: right clicking

Pettyjohn, Chris G. (FTC)
 

I know you found a solution.  But if you ever need to right click on anything else in the future you can do NVDA + numpad divide (/)  to move the mouse to the focused item and then NVDA + numpad multiply (*) to execute the right click.  


braille display model and info

Richard Kuzma
 

Hello everyone,

Was cleaning over the weekend and finally found the braille display I spoke of last week.

It is a power braille 40.

However, I know nothing about it.

I just have the unit and no cables.

I am not sure if it functions or not as it was given to me years ago.

If anyone is interested in it , just email me back.

rmkuzma@...

thanks,

rich

 


Re: learning python

Sascha Cowley
 

I fail to see why one would need the tutorial to be targeted specifically at blind people.
There is a good deal of first-party documentation available on the Python website. I first learnt Python with the book Python Crash Course by Eric Matthes (William Pollock, 978-1-59327-603-4).


Re: Most Responsive and Accessible Version of Microsoft Word

Bhavya shah
 

Dear David and Chris,

Interestingly, I use a mixture of ESpeak-NG and IBM Eloquence myself,
switching between the two from time to time. I think it is unlikely
that this issue has to do with the speech engine, because latency
therein would appear in more than just Word, unlike the Word-specific
lags I am encountering. In terms of specs, my laptop has 16 gb DDR4
RAM and an Intel I7 10th gen CPU. The lag I am talking about is,
approximately, of several hundred milliseconds, and occurs to varying
degrees during character, line as well as paragraph navigation
(non-exhaustive list). However, I ran the COM registration fixing tool
to no effect, but then restarted with add-ons disabled, and I think
there has been a noticeable change in performance. I would like to
measure this quantitatively so that I can detect changes with sureity
rather than by the sense I get; I understand information about time
after gesture for speech used to be recorded at one point in the Log
Viewer, though it does not seem to be anymore. This is a deviation
from my original question, but could someone please guide me as to how
to find out the exact time it takes for NVDA to speak after an input?

Thanks.

On 2/28/21, Chris Smart <ve3rwj@winsystem.org> wrote:
Strangely, I see even faster performance with a particular version of
IBM Eloquence than with eSpeak. Both are very snappy indeed though, and
we're talking only a few milliseconds difference here.







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Best Regards
Bhavya Shah
Stanford University | Class of 2024
E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@gmail.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/


Re: learning python

 

Hi Don

This youtube playlist offer tutorials on python programming with NVDA. I've just save it into my account, not listen yet. I think it would be useful for you: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCuspdftAujuMra_kKm1XkIpJaVg6y_Kr

Beside, consider joining python vis mailing list, the list where blind people discuss everything about python. Take a look at: https://www.freelists.org/list/pythonvis

Cuong

On 3/1/2021 5:45 AM, Don H wrote:
I have downloaded and installed python 3 on my system.  I downloaded some sample programs.  I can choose to edit one of the programs using Idle 3.9.  Doing this opens what I assume is Idle but NVDA will read nothing in this screen.  What am I missing.





Re: learning python

 

On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 05:46 PM, Don H wrote:
I can choose to edit one of the programs using Idle 3.9.
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As an aside, you could use Notepad++ as your editor instead.  It does support Python language checking (among many others).
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Any idiot can face a crisis. It's the day-to-day living that wears you out.

      ~ Anton Chekhov

 


Re: learning python

Ann Byrne
 


Re: learning python

Don H
 

Are there any tutorials or courses to learn Python as a blind person?

On 2/28/2021 4:57 PM, Sascha Cowley via groups.io wrote:
Nothing; Idle is not accessible with NVDA.


Re: learning python

Sascha Cowley
 

Nothing; Idle is not accessible with NVDA.


learning python

Don H
 

I have downloaded and installed python 3 on my system. I downloaded some sample programs. I can choose to edit one of the programs using Idle 3.9. Doing this opens what I assume is Idle but NVDA will read nothing in this screen. What am I missing.


Re: Converting JAWS Dictionaries

 

On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 05:27 PM, Greg Epley wrote:
According to the archives, a member was working on an external utility to do the conversion. They were wanting other members to send their JDF file so issues with the tool could be worked out. However, he said use "Reply to Sender", which I couldn't find when looking at the archive page, even after I joined the group in hopes that would help.
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That member would be me.  I still have the gawk script I wrote to do this, and if you want to send me your JDF file I'll gladly run it through so that you can be the next test case.  I did not get enough response to feel comfortable "widely releasing" a utility that's still in late alpha stage, at best.

As to "Reply to Sender," that's something that will be at the end of email messages for those reading via email.  If you're using the archive on the web, and you are logged in, there is a Private button beneath the compose window that would switch your reply only to the person who sent the message you're replying to, and the usual Reply to Group button changes to Reply to Sender if the Private button has been activated.

You're the first person I know of who's attempted to use the web interface "straight out of the shoot" and the only one I believe I know of who wanted to send a reply privately using that interface.  Great for you, but my prior message was aiming squarely at those reading via email, which is the vast majority of the membership.  You should see a Reply to Sender link at the end of this message in your inbox.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Any idiot can face a crisis. It's the day-to-day living that wears you out.

      ~ Anton Chekhov

 


Converting JAWS Dictionaries

Greg Epley <greg.epley64@...>
 

In the archives, I had stumbled upon a member seeking some way to convert their JAWS dictionary into NVDA format so an existing large JAWS dictionary didn't need to be manually created entry by entry for NVDA use.
 
This is one area that's keeping me away from NVDA, and I was just wondering if anyone could offer status on the project? According to the archives, a member was working on an external utility to do the conversion. They were wanting other members to send their JDF file so issues with the tool could be worked out. However, he said use "Reply to Sender", which I couldn't find when looking at the archive page, even after I joined the group in hopes that would help. I clicked on a combo box that seemed it might offer some options, then ended up somewhere entirely unexpected and closed out the browser.
 
My other issue with moving to NVDA is beyond the scope of this post, so I will not get into that. It's possibly just something I need to further research, but I lack the free time to do that right now.
 
Thanks in advance for input on status of this tool, or if someone has created an add-in that will do the same conversion.

-Greg Epley
 


Can’t find commands to work windows via a Humanware Brilliant Braille Display?

Gerardo Corripio
 

Where within the NVDA documentation could I find commands to work Windows via a HumanWare Brilliant Brailld display? Trial and erroR, VIA nvda+S KEYBOARD LEARN FEATURE (nvda+#1), has given me basic commands (1 and4-chord is up and down arrows, 3 and 6-chords is left and right arrows)... I’m looking for the equivalent to Windows+m for Desktop, Alt+f4 etc.
thanks for info.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel


Re: right clicking

Don H
 

By a happy accident I just figured it out. I opened the start menu, in the search box I typed powershell, first item found was powershell. I then hit the right arrow and got the options to run as admin.

On 2/28/2021 2:12 PM, John Altmeyer wrote:
Don, I use Windows 10.  Here is how I do what you want.
Hold down the Windows key and press R - this brings up the run dialog. Type powershell
Next, hold down both the shift and control key and press the enter key.
This will run Powershell as administrator.
John
Be the person your dog thinks you are! – J.W. Stephens
On 02/28/2021 2:35 PM, Don H wrote:
I want to run powershell admin.  To do so I open the start menu and search for powershell.  Now I am supposed to right click the result and select run as admin.  How do you right click on someing in the start menu?






Re: right clicking

John Altmeyer
 

Don, I use Windows 10.  Here is how I do what you want.

Hold down the Windows key and press R - this brings up the run dialog.  Type powershell

Next, hold down both the shift and control key and press the enter key.

This will run Powershell as administrator.

John

Be the person your dog thinks you are! – J.W. Stephens

On 02/28/2021 2:35 PM, Don H wrote:
I want to run powershell admin.  To do so I open the start menu and search for powershell.  Now I am supposed to right click the result and select run as admin.  How do you right click on someing in the start menu?





right clicking

Don H
 

I want to run powershell admin. To do so I open the start menu and search for powershell. Now I am supposed to right click the result and select run as admin. How do you right click on someing in the start menu?


Problem with NVDA, email, and Esys 80 cell Braille display

John Wells
 

Can someone offer help please. I am new to NVDA and have a small problem. When I go to my emails, NVDA will read the list in braille and also announce the list with speech. However, when I open an email, the speech is perfect but the braille merely shows the word “payne”. Which settings need to be amended please. I am running Windows 10 and my braille reader is an Esys 80 cell display. I am using windows live mail for my emails and this problem does not occur when I use Jaws.
 
I thank you in anticipation of your assistance. John Wells.
 
 


Re: Most Responsive and Accessible Version of Microsoft Word

Chris Smart
 

Strangely, I see even faster performance with a particular version of IBM Eloquence than with eSpeak. Both are very snappy indeed though, and we're talking only a few milliseconds difference here.


Re: Most Responsive and Accessible Version of Microsoft Word

David Goldfield
 

Bhavya, while I have experienced the delays you are referring to I found that the performance seemed to be linked more to the computer being used rather than a particular build of Microsoft Word, with performance being much better on faster machines. I'd be interested in the exact specs for your machine. Also, you didn't say which speech engine you are using. On a reasonably modern machine I find that Espeak gives me the best in overall performance and responsiveness although the Vocalizer voices from Code Factory are also quite good. Have you tried running the Com registration fixing tool from the NVDA Tools menu? In an instance where using an older Dell OptiPlex running this tool made a noticeable difference in Word's performance. On that same OptiPlex I also remember that performance was unacceptable at one point but running this tool along with later NVDA updates seemed to improve things.



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Subject: [nvda] Most Responsive and Accessible Version of Microsoft Word

Dear all,

I currently use NVDA 2020.4, Microsoft Office 365, and Windows 10 on a fairly high-spec machine. Within the Office suite, the bulk of my usage (and of my dissatisfaction) is with Microsoft Word. I find NVDA to be quite slow when navigating through any document in Word 365, particularly in terms of paragraph navigation in case of large paragraphs. The spelling and grammar check dialog is not as convenient as it used to be in the past. I should note that I have tried enabling Word UIA and it does substantially help with NVDA's responsiveness in Word 365, but introduces its own set of bugs. I can't recall exact versions, but in the past, I believeI have used versions such as 2007, 2010, and 2013, and I feel like all of them were much more conducive to a snappy NVDA performance. I understand that work on improving NVDA and Microsoft Office 365's interplay is on going, but from my perspective, I think it might not be at a point just yet such that it maximizes my productivity.

Having said all of that, I was wondering if you had thoughts on which of most recent versions of Word are most responsive. To be clear, what I mainly mean by responsiveness is just that when I navigate in a document, NVDA's latency is low and its speech feedback is almost immediate. For other software, I would just get trials of several past versions of the software, run them as something equivalent to a portable copy, and practically try and test each of them; I don't think that can be done for Microsoft Office though.

I would greatly appreciate all inputs and suggestions in this regard.

Thanks.

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Best Regards
Bhavya Shah
Stanford University | Class of 2024
E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@gmail.com
LinkedIn: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fbhavyashah125%2F&;data=04%7C01%7C%7C7bbf5613a2e1434cc9e008d8dbff8fd0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637501237954777808%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=J1w68%2F8ZsSY55Vzv%2FELIGx330K0eDiIF6fIYmSUkisU%3D&amp;reserved=0


Most Responsive and Accessible Version of Microsoft Word

Bhavya shah
 

Dear all,

I currently use NVDA 2020.4, Microsoft Office 365, and Windows 10 on a
fairly high-spec machine. Within the Office suite, the bulk of my
usage (and of my dissatisfaction) is with Microsoft Word. I find NVDA
to be quite slow when navigating through any document in Word 365,
particularly in terms of paragraph navigation in case of large
paragraphs. The spelling and grammar check dialog is not as convenient
as it used to be in the past. I should note that I have tried enabling
Word UIA and it does substantially help with NVDA's responsiveness in
Word 365, but introduces its own set of bugs. I can't recall exact
versions, but in the past, I believeI have used versions such as 2007,
2010, and 2013, and I feel like all of them were much more conducive
to a snappy NVDA performance. I understand that work on improving NVDA
and Microsoft Office 365's interplay is on going, but from my
perspective, I think it might not be at a point just yet such that it
maximizes my productivity.

Having said all of that, I was wondering if you had thoughts on which
of most recent versions of Word are most responsive. To be clear, what
I mainly mean by responsiveness is just that when I navigate in a
document, NVDA's latency is low and its speech feedback is almost
immediate. For other software, I would just get trials of several past
versions of the software, run them as something equivalent to a
portable copy, and practically try and test each of them; I don't
think that can be done for Microsoft Office though.

I would greatly appreciate all inputs and suggestions in this regard.

Thanks.

--
Best Regards
Bhavya Shah
Stanford University | Class of 2024
E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@gmail.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/

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