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Re: Capslock as modifier

Luke Davis
 

It is not more limited. It is just different.

The first beeps if you type a lower-case letter while holding shift. Since that only happens if capslock is on, it is an effective indication of capslock.

The second is effective when reviewing text: it doesn't relate to typing, but to situations wherein you are arrowing around or using review commands.
Similar to, or an alternative to, the change pitch for capital letters option, it is just a method of alerting you to capital letters that you are reading.
Incidental to speak typed characters, it also happens to beep when you type a capital letter, but that isn't its primary function.

The first relates to writing, the second to reading. Neither is "more limited" than the other, they solve different problems.

Luke

On Thu, 27 Aug 2020, Gene wrote:

Does that mean that the more limited one should be removed?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Quentin Christensen

Gene there are two settings mentioned in the thread, which initially sound similar, but work differently to each other:

In NVDA's keyboard settings there is an option "Beep if typing lowercase letters when caps lock is on". That option beeps when caps lock is on AND you then press SHIFT and type a letter (which will come out lowercase). That option works regardless of your keyboard echo settings.

In NVDA'S speech settings there is an option "Beep for capitals". With that on whenever you arrow to a capital letter or type a capital letter, NVDA will beep, however it only does this when reading the letter, so it only reads while typing if speak typed characters is enabled.


Re: Capslock as modifier

Gene
 

Does that mean that the more limited one should be removed?

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 5:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Capslock as modifier


Gene there are two settings mentioned in the thread, which initially sound similar, but work differently to each other:

In NVDA's keyboard settings there is an option "Beep if typing lowercase letters when caps lock is on". That option beeps when caps lock is on AND you then press SHIFT and type a letter (which will come out lowercase). That option works regardless of your keyboard echo settings.

In NVDA'S speech settings there is an option "Beep for capitals". With that on whenever you arrow to a capital letter or type a capital letter, NVDA will beep, however it only does this when reading the letter, so it only reads while typing if speak typed characters is enabled.

Kind regards

Quentin.


On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 9:29 PM Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't know if this varies when using different versions of Windows or for
some other reason.

gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Mullins
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 4:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Capslock as modifier



Hi

My settings are: synth set to beep if capital letter, speak typed characters
off, speak typed words on.



This does not beep when typing CAPITAL LETTERS, either with capslock on or
when using shift with caps lock off. Using shift with caps lock on does
produce a beep. In other words, the synthesizer setting that indicates
capital letters only works when typing if Speak typed characters is on.



I'm using Windows 10 2004 and NVDA 2020.2



Cheers

Chris





From: Gene
Sent: 27 August 2020 03:21
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Capslock as modifier





I just tested this and it beeps when speak typed characters is on or off.

It does it when speak words is on or off as well, so the screen-reader could

be silent and it would still beep.



Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Quentin Christensen

Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 9:18 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Capslock as modifier





It should still beep when typing a lowercase letter with caps lock on - so

if you have double pressed the caps lock key and caps lock is on. If you

then press SHIFT and type a letter (which will come out lowercase) NVDA will

beep.



In NVDA'S speech settings there is an option "Beep for capitals". With that

on whenever you arrow to a capital or type a capital letter, NVDA will beep,

however it only does this when reading the letter, so it only reads when

typing, if speak typed characters is enabled.



Quentin.





On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 10:54 AM Janet Brandly <jbrandly@shaw.ca> wrote:





To add to my last note, although I have the box checked in the keyboard

settings to let me know if capital keys are being typed when I want lower

case, that’s not working. I’ve got it set to say words as I type them, so

perhaps that is the problem? I really don’t need to hear each character.























--



Quentin Christensen

Training and Support Manager





Web: www.nvaccess.org

Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess

Twitter: @NVAccess






















--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Web: www.nvaccess.org
Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess


Re: Problem enter thunderbird with NVDA

Daniel Damacena
 

Did you try to close this tab using ctrl+w?

Em 27/08/2020 16:54, Dave Grossoehme escreveu:

Good Day:  Has anyone else had a problem entering into Thunder Bird using windows 2004 and the latest nvda version.  For the last 2 days I had a problem.  After I enter the program, I hear task bar.  If I tab once I hear options and I have to used a sight person to click at the top to get to the in box, or all mail etc. I have tried using the control + tab to no avail and the f6 doesn't help either.  This is on version 78 of T. b.

Dave




Re: Problem enter thunderbird with NVDA

Gene
 

I only received one. You may have a problem where you thought you sent two, but it doesn't appear you did.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Grossoehme
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 3:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem with thrunder bird and sending

Good Day: I apology about 2 message. When I sent the last message t2o
messag were sent instead of one. To my knowledge, this was for no
reason. Can someone help here?

Dave


Re: Problem enter thunderbird with NVDA

Gene
 

It may be that you were working in options and didn't close the options window. I don't know why thunderbird does this and if it is a problem for sighted users. But I found that if you do something in options, you must close that window with control f4 after you finish. Then you will return to the main window and the next time you open the program, you will be in the main window. But if you work in options, then close the program with alt f4, when you open it again, you will be in the options window. So open the program, close the optionns window with control f4, then do whatever you want in the main window. Then close the program in the usual way. The next time you open it, you will be in the main window.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Grossoehme
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 2:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem enter thunderbird with NVDA

Good Day: Has anyone else had a problem entering into Thunder Bird
using windows 2004 and the latest nvda version. For the last 2 days I
had a problem. After I enter the program, I hear task bar. If I tab
once I hear options and I have to used a sight person to click at the
top to get to the in box, or all mail etc. I have tried using the
control + tab to no avail and the f6 doesn't help either. This is on
version 78 of T. b.

Dave


Re: Capslock as modifier

Quentin Christensen
 

Gene there are two settings mentioned in the thread, which initially sound similar, but work differently to each other:

In NVDA's keyboard settings there is an option "Beep if typing lowercase letters when caps lock is on".  That option beeps when caps lock is on AND you then press SHIFT and type a letter (which will come out lowercase).  That option works regardless of your keyboard echo settings.

In NVDA'S speech settings there is an option "Beep for capitals".  With that on whenever you arrow to a capital letter or type a capital letter, NVDA will beep, however it only does this when reading the letter, so it only reads while typing if speak typed characters is enabled.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 9:29 PM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I don't know if this varies when using different versions of Windows or for
some other reason.

gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Mullins
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 4:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Capslock as modifier



Hi

My settings are: synth set to beep if capital letter, speak typed characters
off, speak typed words on.



This does not beep when typing CAPITAL LETTERS, either with capslock on or
when using shift with caps lock off.  Using shift with caps lock on does
produce a beep.  In other words, the synthesizer setting that indicates
capital letters only works when typing if Speak typed characters is on.



I'm using Windows 10 2004 and NVDA 2020.2



Cheers

Chris





From: Gene
Sent: 27 August 2020 03:21
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Capslock as modifier





I just tested this and it beeps when speak typed characters is on or off.

It does it when speak words is on or off as well, so the screen-reader could

be silent and it would still beep.



Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Quentin Christensen

Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 9:18 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Capslock as modifier





It should still beep when typing a lowercase letter with caps lock on - so

if you have double pressed the caps lock key and caps lock is on.  If you

then press SHIFT and type a letter (which will come out lowercase) NVDA will

beep.



In NVDA'S speech settings there is an option "Beep for capitals".  With that

on whenever you arrow to a capital or type a capital letter, NVDA will beep,

however it only does this when reading the letter, so it only reads when

typing, if speak typed characters is enabled.



Quentin.





On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 10:54 AM Janet Brandly <jbrandly@...> wrote:





To add to my last note, although I have the box checked in the keyboard

settings to let me know if capital keys are being typed when I want lower

case, that’s not working. I’ve got it set to say words as I type them, so

perhaps that is the problem? I really don’t need to hear each character.























--



Quentin Christensen

Training and Support Manager





Web: www.nvaccess.org

Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess

Twitter: @NVAccess




















--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Capslock as modifier

Janet Brandly
 

Thanks to everyone for hints/suggestions about solving my caps lock problem.

Janet


Problem enter thunderbird with NVDA

Dave Grossoehme
 

Good Day:  I apology about 2 message.  When I sent the last message t2o messag were sent instead of one.  To my knowledge, this was for no reason.  Can someone help here?

Dave


Problem enter thunderbird with NVDA

Dave Grossoehme
 

Good Day:  Has anyone else had a problem entering into Thunder Bird using windows 2004 and the latest nvda version.  For the last 2 days I had a problem.  After I enter the program, I hear task bar.  If I tab once I hear options and I have to used a sight person to click at the top to get to the in box, or all mail etc. I have tried using the control + tab to no avail and the f6 doesn't help either.  This is on version 78 of T. b.

Dave


Follow-up: so what will happen to Joseph Lee's add-ons when he steps back

 

Hi all,

Thanks for the encouragements. I plan to step back from NVDA community once I hear that I can start studying for master’s degree (not this fall, as I’m still an undergraduate and I need to apply for graduate school).

So what will happen to my add-ons in the meantime:

  • Add-on Updater: as I noted last night, it’ll be maintained until NVDA itself gains this add-on’s ability.
  • Object Location Tones: the last release from me will be sent early next year.
  • StationPlaylist: version 20.09.x is a long-term support release for Studio 5.20 users and will continue to use older NVDA technologies. Going forward, stable releases (20.10 and later) will rely exclusively on recent NVDA changes and will support Studio 5.30 or later. The full impact won’t be felt until next year, however. Also, I’ll hand over this add-on to the community for further development and maintenance effective June 30, 2021, and to prepare for this, 20.09.x support will end in April 2021 and stable version to follow shortly after.
  • Windows 10 App Essentials: in January 2021, two things will happen: end of support for Windows 10 Version 1909 from this add-on, and the add-on will require NVDA 2020.3 or later. Both align with add-on support policy.
  • Other add-ons will see updates from time to time, but there might be a possibility that they too will be handed over to the community for further development.

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Few questions regarding the Place Markers add-on

Amir
 

To be honest, I'm not sure if the Place Markers add-on works properly at least with regards to the questions I asked. Sometimes it places the cursor a couple of lines above or below the exact position required, and it tends to announce the cursor coordinates each time it locates a mark which is really verbose and distracting. So, IMO, it also requires more fine-tuning.
 
Best,
Amir


Re: subtitles lion universal addon question

Afik Souffir
 

 

Ok, for some reason its not have Hebrew.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of CARLOS-ESTEBAN
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 7:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] subtitles lion universal addon question

 

Hi, the addon use the OCR of Windows 10. So, is depending of the language of the OCR of NVDA in NVDA Menu, preferences, Settings, Windows 10 OCR.

Regards.

 

 

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

Músico (pianista) y también ayuda a usuarios con discapacidad visual con el uso de lectores de pantalla y tecnología. Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.

 

Musician (pianist) and also help to the blind people with the use of screen readers and technology. Certified expert in the screen reader NVDA.

NVDA certified expert certificate

 

De: Afik Souffir
Enviado: jueves, 27 de agosto de 2020 10:47
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] subtitles lion universal addon question

 

 

Hi, its work in all languages?

 

I'll try it

Thanks

 

Afik

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of CARLOS-ESTEBAN
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 6:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] subtitles lion universal addon question

 

Hello.

  1. This addon only work in Windows 10, because use the OCR of Windows 10.
  2. The addon need the video in complete screen. You can play in complete screen press f11 or looking the button for complete screen.
  3. If you use the screen curtain of NVDA, please disable it before of use the addon.

Regards.

 

 

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

Músico (pianista) y también ayuda a usuarios con discapacidad visual con el uso de lectores de pantalla y tecnología. Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.

 

Musician (pianist) and also help to the blind people with the use of screen readers and technology. Certified expert in the screen reader NVDA.

NVDA certified expert certificate

 

De: Afik Souffir
Enviado: jueves, 27 de agosto de 2020 10:39
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: [nvda] subtitles lion universal addon question

 

 

Hi,

 

I just installed the add on and went to Netflix to see if it works. So its not work, and I don't know why.

 

Do I need to configure something in the addon settings? If so, what do I have to do?

 

 

Afik

 

 

 


Re: subtitles lion universal addon question

CARLOS-ESTEBAN <carlosestebanpianista@...>
 

Hi, the addon use the OCR of Windows 10. So, is depending of the language of the OCR of NVDA in NVDA Menu, preferences, Settings, Windows 10 OCR.

Regards.

 

 

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

Músico (pianista) y también ayuda a usuarios con discapacidad visual con el uso de lectores de pantalla y tecnología. Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.

 

Musician (pianist) and also help to the blind people with the use of screen readers and technology. Certified expert in the screen reader NVDA.

NVDA certified expert certificate

 

De: Afik Souffir
Enviado: jueves, 27 de agosto de 2020 10:47
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] subtitles lion universal addon question

 

 

Hi, its work in all languages?

 

I'll try it

Thanks

 

Afik

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of CARLOS-ESTEBAN
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 6:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] subtitles lion universal addon question

 

Hello.

  1. This addon only work in Windows 10, because use the OCR of Windows 10.
  2. The addon need the video in complete screen. You can play in complete screen press f11 or looking the button for complete screen.
  3. If you use the screen curtain of NVDA, please disable it before of use the addon.

Regards.

 

 

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

Músico (pianista) y también ayuda a usuarios con discapacidad visual con el uso de lectores de pantalla y tecnología. Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.

 

Musician (pianist) and also help to the blind people with the use of screen readers and technology. Certified expert in the screen reader NVDA.

NVDA certified expert certificate

 

De: Afik Souffir
Enviado: jueves, 27 de agosto de 2020 10:39
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: [nvda] subtitles lion universal addon question

 

 

Hi,

 

I just installed the add on and went to Netflix to see if it works. So its not work, and I don't know why.

 

Do I need to configure something in the addon settings? If so, what do I have to do?

 

 

Afik

 

 

 


Re: Few questions regarding the Place Markers add-on

Tony Malykh
 

Yes, all the browser marks will be applied to all domains. I know that configuration is not very intuitive at this point, but convenient configuration windows require a lot of UI work, which I don't have much time or passion for. If we have some kind of UI for configuring browser marks, then we'd be able to specify domain name or regular expression for domain name, specific for each mark. I don't know yet how to extract domain name from currently displayed web page, but PlaceMarks add-on does it, so I assume I can copy their way. But in any case it requires a lot of work.

On 8/27/2020 9:05 AM, Amir wrote:
Hi Tony,

Thanks for your reply.
I love your add-on and indeed use it, or let me say use your various add-ons, on a regular basis.
However, as I noticed the "browser marks" feature a couple of months ago, I found out that configuring it or actually getting it to work is quite complicated. Of course, I should brush up on my knowledge of regular expressions, but maybe it should become easier to configure -- similar to what JAWS does. And if you don't discriminate based on domain, do you mean that something like the "Download" link gets detected on all websites containing this link with the exact form and spelling? Since I use various place markers on a wide range of websites, ideally I don't like to have such unexpected mark detections so as to make navigation faster and more focused.
Yet again, thanks for releasing such useful add-ons -- keep up the good work!

Best,
Amir


Re: Few questions regarding the Place Markers add-on

Amir
 

Hi Tony,

Thanks for your reply.
I love your add-on and indeed use it, or let me say use your various add-ons, on a regular basis.
However, as I noticed the "browser marks" feature a couple of months ago, I found out that configuring it or actually getting it to work is quite complicated. Of course, I should brush up on my knowledge of regular expressions, but maybe it should become easier to configure -- similar to what JAWS does. And if you don't discriminate based on domain, do you mean that something like the "Download" link gets detected on all websites containing this link with the exact form and spelling? Since I use various place markers on a wide range of websites, ideally I don't like to have such unexpected mark detections so as to make navigation faster and more focused.
Yet again, thanks for releasing such useful add-ons -- keep up the good work!

Best,
Amir


Re: subtitles lion universal addon question

Afik Souffir
 

 

Hi, its not working for some reason.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of CARLOS-ESTEBAN
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 6:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] subtitles lion universal addon question

 

Hello.

  1. This addon only work in Windows 10, because use the OCR of Windows 10.
  2. The addon need the video in complete screen. You can play in complete screen press f11 or looking the button for complete screen.
  3. If you use the screen curtain of NVDA, please disable it before of use the addon.

Regards.

 

 

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

Músico (pianista) y también ayuda a usuarios con discapacidad visual con el uso de lectores de pantalla y tecnología. Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.

 

Musician (pianist) and also help to the blind people with the use of screen readers and technology. Certified expert in the screen reader NVDA.

NVDA certified expert certificate

 

De: Afik Souffir
Enviado: jueves, 27 de agosto de 2020 10:39
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: [nvda] subtitles lion universal addon question

 

 

Hi,

 

I just installed the add on and went to Netflix to see if it works. So its not work, and I don't know why.

 

Do I need to configure something in the addon settings? If so, what do I have to do?

 

 

Afik

 

 


Re: subtitles lion universal addon question

Afik Souffir
 

 

Hi, its work in all languages?

 

I'll try it

Thanks

 

Afik

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of CARLOS-ESTEBAN
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 6:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] subtitles lion universal addon question

 

Hello.

  1. This addon only work in Windows 10, because use the OCR of Windows 10.
  2. The addon need the video in complete screen. You can play in complete screen press f11 or looking the button for complete screen.
  3. If you use the screen curtain of NVDA, please disable it before of use the addon.

Regards.

 

 

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

Músico (pianista) y también ayuda a usuarios con discapacidad visual con el uso de lectores de pantalla y tecnología. Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.

 

Musician (pianist) and also help to the blind people with the use of screen readers and technology. Certified expert in the screen reader NVDA.

NVDA certified expert certificate

 

De: Afik Souffir
Enviado: jueves, 27 de agosto de 2020 10:39
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: [nvda] subtitles lion universal addon question

 

 

Hi,

 

I just installed the add on and went to Netflix to see if it works. So its not work, and I don't know why.

 

Do I need to configure something in the addon settings? If so, what do I have to do?

 

 

Afik

 

 


Re: subtitles lion universal addon question

CARLOS-ESTEBAN <carlosestebanpianista@...>
 

Hello.

  1. This addon only work in Windows 10, because use the OCR of Windows 10.
  2. The addon need the video in complete screen. You can play in complete screen press f11 or looking the button for complete screen.
  3. If you use the screen curtain of NVDA, please disable it before of use the addon.

Regards.

 

 

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

Músico (pianista) y también ayuda a usuarios con discapacidad visual con el uso de lectores de pantalla y tecnología. Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.

 

Musician (pianist) and also help to the blind people with the use of screen readers and technology. Certified expert in the screen reader NVDA.

NVDA certified expert certificate

 

De: Afik Souffir
Enviado: jueves, 27 de agosto de 2020 10:39
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: [nvda] subtitles lion universal addon question

 

 

Hi,

 

I just installed the add on and went to Netflix to see if it works. So its not work, and I don't know why.

 

Do I need to configure something in the addon settings? If so, what do I have to do?

 

 

Afik

 

 


subtitles lion universal addon question

Afik Souffir
 

 

Hi,

 

I just installed the add on and went to Netflix to see if it works. So its not work, and I don't know why.

 

Do I need to configure something in the addon settings? If so, what do I have to do?

 

 

Afik

 


Re: Few questions regarding the Place Markers add-on

Tony Malykh
 

In the absence of other replies, let me tell you about my add-on BrowserNav. One of the features is what I called browser marks. You can configure a regular expression to match any words that you want to be able to find on web pages and jump to them quickly using J or Shift+J command. I was thinking of Jaws bookmarks when I designed this feature. Unlike Jaws it doesn't discriminate on the domain name, that is the whole regexp is being applied to all web pages. But it doesn't seem to cause problems for me. So to summarize, it's not exactly what you're looking for , but close enough, so might want to give it a try.

https://github.com/mltony/nvda-browser-nav/

HTH

--Tony


On 8/26/2020 10:58 PM, Amir wrote:
Folks, having used the Place Markers feature in JAWS for a long time, I'd like to know if the Place Markers add-on for NVDA can provide an equal experience. Specifically:
1. Is it possible to create a place marker for a page and expect it to work on all pages belonging to that domain? For instance, I download a lot of podcasts and audio files from npr.org. With JAWS I've created a place marker for the Download link on one page and, via a check box, have set it up in a way that it works on all pages belonging to npr.org.
2. Crucially, can place markers be anchored to one or more words on a page so that they can always move us to the proper/expected location regardless of any modifications on that page? Again JAWS can do it by asking for a word or phrase to which a place marker should be anchored. Like the first one, this is also optional.

Best,
Amir

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