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Re: I've had it with Firefox

Jackie
 

Gene, the truth is that:
a) a screenreader, by its very nature, is going to slow down a machine
to varying degrees; &
b) Some things having to do w/those varying degrees are other programs
running on a machine taking up memory, etc. Sighted users also notice
browser slowdowns when malware or too many other programs are present.
Believe me, I know--I've cleaned literally hundreds of them. It's also
worth cleaning out temporary files, as these, too, can slow down
browsing.

It would be interesting to look at programs running on folks' machines
who are having trouble vs those who are not to see if any sort of
common ground can be found. The opinion is not necessarily a hard &
fast 1, just something I've noted from fixing lots & lots of computers
for both blind & sighted folks alike. I guess what I'm saying is I'm
not sure the screenreader is actually really involved, except to the
extent that screenreaders slow down a computer, or, if it is, that
other factors may be of far greater importance.

On 6/29/18, Lino Morales <linomorales001@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree with Gene here. Office 365 really was the only thing on here and a
couple of HP MS Store apps since this PC is an HP.

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________________________________
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Gene
<gsasner@ripco.com>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 5:44:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox

I don't see any basis for forming any but a very tenuous opinion that
bloatware might be the cause of this problem. Why would bloatware interfere
with the working of a screen-reader with a browser? the problem started
when Quantum was developed. Bloatware, uninstalling office, etc. has no
evident connection with the problem. But to try to get evidence, are those
experiencing a problem using a machine with bloatware or on which a
significant amount has been removed? Conversely what about those without
the problem? Does your machine have or has it had bloatware?

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Lino Morales<mailto:linomorales001@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 4:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox


I took Office 365 off my computer last year when I got it cause I can’t
afford the subscription.



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________________________________
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> on behalf of Jackie
<abletec@gmail.com<mailto:abletec@gmail.com>>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 2:23:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox

I don't think that concluding there's an interaction w/accessibility
technology in terms of FF's slowness is necessarily valid. My own
tendency is to feel that there may be something like vendorware (yall
know--the crap vendors load onto their machines) or malware (perhaps
vendorware & malware are 1 & the same)--might be responsible. In terms
of not running any addons, you should really check, because sometimes
Office, etc, installs addons you may not even be aware of unless you
go in & look. Mostly just thinkin out loud on a Friday, & that's
always dangerous for me.

On 6/29/18, Lino Morales <linomorales001@gmail.com> wrote:
So do I. For now its making browsing much faster. Of course I’ll continue
to
use Edge for some things, but I’m so used to the FF layout.

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Windows
10

________________________________
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Rosemarie
Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 12:43:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox

Hi, Lino,

I use waterfox and it works great for me. It's a bit faster than firefox
and
I like that.

Rosemarie



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino
Morales
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 10:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox

Well like I said in my subject line I’ve had I
with firefox. Every site is slowith NVDa even the mobile FB site. I bit
the
bullet and downloaded Waterfox. Seems to work much better. May I’ll wait
ti
FF 70 and see how fast that will be. So long FF. Me and WF and Edge are
good
buddies.

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Windows
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Re: Golden Cursor and Clip Contents Designer Have KeyConflicts

David Moore
 

Hi!

I think it would be better to leave the key command unassigned.

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From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 8:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor and Clip Contents Designer Have KeyConflicts

 

Hi,

Ah yes, Golden Cursor will take over Windows+NVDA+C. Would you like me to change this for everyone, or make it unassigned? There are benefits and drawbacks to each approach:

* Reassign: people will need to learn a new command to change mouse movement unit. It is increasingly becoming risky to change commands, as add-ons are fighting for limited spots on the keyboard.

* Unassign: this means people will need to assign mouse movement unit toggle command themselves. The obvious advantage is that it won't conflict with Clip Contents Designer, the drawback being opening input gestures and assigning this feature to a command you know isn't used by add-ons.

Whatever the community says, I'll make it happen in add-on version 3.1.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Wells

Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 5:25 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor and Clip Contents Designer Have Key Conflicts

 

The most obvious one is NVDA+WINDOWS-KEY+C.

 

 

On 6/29/2018 5:18 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

> Hi,

> Which command is causing conflict? Whenever you say a key is causing conflict, I (and authors) would like to know which function and command that's the source of the conflict. Thanks.

> Cheers,

> Joseph

> -----Original Message-----

> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard

> Wells

> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 3:11 PM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: [nvda] Golden Cursor and Clip Contents Designer Have Key

> Conflicts

> Well, I was going to play with Golden Cursor, but it has hotkey conflicts with Clip Contents Designer. I could change them, but NVDA is on too many of my computers to make this feasible and Clip Contents Designer is too important to my productivity.

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Golden Cursor and Clip Contents Designer Have Key Conflicts

 

Hi,
Ah yes, Golden Cursor will take over Windows+NVDA+C. Would you like me to change this for everyone, or make it unassigned? There are benefits and drawbacks to each approach:
* Reassign: people will need to learn a new command to change mouse movement unit. It is increasingly becoming risky to change commands, as add-ons are fighting for limited spots on the keyboard.
* Unassign: this means people will need to assign mouse movement unit toggle command themselves. The obvious advantage is that it won't conflict with Clip Contents Designer, the drawback being opening input gestures and assigning this feature to a command you know isn't used by add-ons.
Whatever the community says, I'll make it happen in add-on version 3.1.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Wells
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 5:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor and Clip Contents Designer Have Key Conflicts

The most obvious one is NVDA+WINDOWS-KEY+C.


On 6/29/2018 5:18 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Which command is causing conflict? Whenever you say a key is causing conflict, I (and authors) would like to know which function and command that's the source of the conflict. Thanks.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Wells
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 3:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Golden Cursor and Clip Contents Designer Have Key
Conflicts

Well, I was going to play with Golden Cursor, but it has hotkey conflicts with Clip Contents Designer. I could change them, but NVDA is on too many of my computers to make this feasible and Clip Contents Designer is too important to my productivity.







Re: Golden Cursor and Clip Contents Designer Have Key Conflicts

Richard Wells
 

The most obvious one is NVDA+WINDOWS-KEY+C.

On 6/29/2018 5:18 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Which command is causing conflict? Whenever you say a key is causing conflict, I (and authors) would like to know which function and command that's the source of the conflict. Thanks.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Wells
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 3:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Golden Cursor and Clip Contents Designer Have Key Conflicts

Well, I was going to play with Golden Cursor, but it has hotkey conflicts with Clip Contents Designer. I could change them, but NVDA is on too many of my computers to make this feasible and Clip Contents Designer is too important to my productivity.






Re: Dropbox saga again

 

<sigh>

I have had a similar issue but with dropbox accounts, one of my clients I am working on, wanted dropbox, because he wanted to share some stuff so I tried to help him with doing it.

Ofcause being me, I did it with my referal, because why not.

However either he bungled it or I did we don't know.

Now his inbox is full of security notices, signin notices and on his tablets and pc, the dropbox puts up adds to join and other things continuously meaning he can't use anything.

After a lot of mucking round, using his google, I managed to sign him up just to get rid of the issues, and then was able to trash all dropbox emails thus far.

My next step will be to put dropbox in my spam list on his end to stop dropbox spamming him with email.

But for his devices, especially tablets, its unknown.

Luckily I do have backups of his systems so I did a full reformat and  then restored to the previous night before the issue came up, however if I wasn't allready in dropbox, I could actually be deciding to pull out at this point.

I used it for development projects,  but the fact is bang for buck rests on ms offering, mainly because 1tb storage = office, if I ever needed it and a generous voip package.

On 6/30/2018 1:52 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Well I just installed the demo of Jaws and that cannot read the dropbox preferences etc either.
So where does this leave me? Well no idea if its windows or dropbox, but as others can read it, has to be one or the other. I guess i can try reinstalling Dropbox, but if there is a winndows issue, maybe somebody intimate with accessibility apis can suggest which bit of windows might have been screwed that would make it only not read dropbox menus, oh and version 50 of Dropbox is the same as well.

My main finger to point was having to remove Avast from the machines affected using avastclear, but I can do nothing about that it was months ago.
Brian

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NVDA in safe mode

Don H
 

Can someone direct me to instructions to set up NVDA to run in safe mode please.
Thanks


Re: I've had it with Firefox

Lino Morales
 

I agree with Gene here. Office 365 really was the only thing on here and a couple of HP MS Store apps since this PC is an HP.

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Gene <gsasner@...>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 5:44:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox
 
I don't see any basis for forming any but a very tenuous opinion that bloatware might be the cause of this problem.  Why would bloatware interfere with the working of a screen-reader with a browser?  the problem started when Quantum was developed.  Bloatware, uninstalling office, etc. has no evident connection with the problem.  But to try to get evidence, are those experiencing a problem using a machine with bloatware or on which a significant amount has been removed?  Conversely what about those without the problem?  Does your machine have or has it had bloatware? 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox

I took Office 365 off my computer last year when I got it cause I can’t afford the subscription.

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Jackie <abletec@...>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 2:23:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox
 
I don't think that concluding there's an interaction w/accessibility
technology in terms of FF's slowness is necessarily valid. My own
tendency is to feel that there may be something like vendorware (yall
know--the crap vendors load onto their machines) or malware (perhaps
vendorware & malware are 1 & the same)--might be responsible. In terms
of not running any addons, you should really check, because sometimes
Office, etc, installs addons you may not even be aware of unless you
go in & look. Mostly just thinkin out loud on a Friday, & that's
always dangerous for me.

On 6/29/18, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:
> So do I. For now its making browsing much faster. Of course I’ll continue to
> use Edge for some things, but I’m so used to the FF layout.
>
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> 10
>
> ________________________________
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Rosemarie
> Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...>
> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 12:43:43 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox
>
> Hi, Lino,
>
> I use waterfox and it works great for me. It's a bit faster than firefox and
> I like that.
>
> Rosemarie
>
>
>
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino
> Morales
> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 10:47 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox
>
> Well like I said in my subject line I’ve had I
> with firefox. Every site is slowith NVDa even the mobile FB site. I bit the
> bullet and downloaded Waterfox. Seems to work much better. May I’ll wait ti
> FF 70 and see how fast that will be. So long FF. Me and WF and Edge are good
> buddies.
>
> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
> 10
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: Golden Cursor and Clip Contents Designer Have Key Conflicts

 

Hi,
Which command is causing conflict? Whenever you say a key is causing conflict, I (and authors) would like to know which function and command that's the source of the conflict. Thanks.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Wells
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 3:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Golden Cursor and Clip Contents Designer Have Key Conflicts

Well, I was going to play with Golden Cursor, but it has hotkey conflicts with Clip Contents Designer. I could change them, but NVDA is on too many of my computers to make this feasible and Clip Contents Designer is too important to my productivity.


Golden Cursor and Clip Contents Designer Have Key Conflicts

Richard Wells
 

Well, I was going to play with Golden Cursor, but it has hotkey conflicts with Clip Contents Designer. I could change them, but NVDA is on too many of my computers to make this feasible and Clip Contents Designer is too important to my productivity.


Re: I've had it with Firefox

Gene
 

I don't see any basis for forming any but a very tenuous opinion that bloatware might be the cause of this problem.  Why would bloatware interfere with the working of a screen-reader with a browser?  the problem started when Quantum was developed.  Bloatware, uninstalling office, etc. has no evident connection with the problem.  But to try to get evidence, are those experiencing a problem using a machine with bloatware or on which a significant amount has been removed?  Conversely what about those without the problem?  Does your machine have or has it had bloatware? 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox

I took Office 365 off my computer last year when I got it cause I can’t afford the subscription.

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Jackie <abletec@...>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 2:23:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox
 
I don't think that concluding there's an interaction w/accessibility
technology in terms of FF's slowness is necessarily valid. My own
tendency is to feel that there may be something like vendorware (yall
know--the crap vendors load onto their machines) or malware (perhaps
vendorware & malware are 1 & the same)--might be responsible. In terms
of not running any addons, you should really check, because sometimes
Office, etc, installs addons you may not even be aware of unless you
go in & look. Mostly just thinkin out loud on a Friday, & that's
always dangerous for me.

On 6/29/18, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:
> So do I. For now its making browsing much faster. Of course I’ll continue to
> use Edge for some things, but I’m so used to the FF layout.
>
> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
> 10
>
> ________________________________
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Rosemarie
> Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...>
> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 12:43:43 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox
>
> Hi, Lino,
>
> I use waterfox and it works great for me. It's a bit faster than firefox and
> I like that.
>
> Rosemarie
>
>
>
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino
> Morales
> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 10:47 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox
>
> Well like I said in my subject line I’ve had I
> with firefox. Every site is slowith NVDa even the mobile FB site. I bit the
> bullet and downloaded Waterfox. Seems to work much better. May I’ll wait ti
> FF 70 and see how fast that will be. So long FF. Me and WF and Edge are good
> buddies.
>
> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
> 10
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: I've had it with Firefox

Lino Morales
 

I took Office 365 off my computer last year when I got it cause I can’t afford the subscription.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Jackie <abletec@...>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 2:23:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox
 
I don't think that concluding there's an interaction w/accessibility
technology in terms of FF's slowness is necessarily valid. My own
tendency is to feel that there may be something like vendorware (yall
know--the crap vendors load onto their machines) or malware (perhaps
vendorware & malware are 1 & the same)--might be responsible. In terms
of not running any addons, you should really check, because sometimes
Office, etc, installs addons you may not even be aware of unless you
go in & look. Mostly just thinkin out loud on a Friday, & that's
always dangerous for me.

On 6/29/18, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:
> So do I. For now its making browsing much faster. Of course I’ll continue to
> use Edge for some things, but I’m so used to the FF layout.
>
> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
> 10
>
> ________________________________
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Rosemarie
> Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...>
> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 12:43:43 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox
>
> Hi, Lino,
>
> I use waterfox and it works great for me. It's a bit faster than firefox and
> I like that.
>
> Rosemarie
>
>
>
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino
> Morales
> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 10:47 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox
>
> Well like I said in my subject line I’ve had I
> with firefox. Every site is slowith NVDa even the mobile FB site. I bit the
> bullet and downloaded Waterfox. Seems to work much better. May I’ll wait ti
> FF 70 and see how fast that will be. So long FF. Me and WF and Edge are good
> buddies.
>
> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
> 10
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: GoldWave and Resource Monitor 18.07 released #addonrelease

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

So, only gold is really needed then. I'm assuming it still supports the older version of goldwave which I prefer for my use.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda-addons@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 6:08 PM
Subject: [nvda] GoldWave and Resource Monitor 18.07 released #AddonRelease


Hi all,



GoldWave and Resource Monitor 18.07 are now available:



* GoldWave: https://github.com/josephsl/goldWave/releases/tag/18.07
* Resource Monitor:
https://github.com/josephsl/resourcemonitor/releases/tag/18.07



GoldWave add-on fixes an issue where leading zeroes were not included when
obtaining remaining time for a track. Resource Monitor drops support for
Windows Vista, Server 2003 and 2008. Both add-ons do include updated
localizations.



Cheers,

Joseph




Re: AddOns wno't update with latest NVDA what's the process?

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Yes indeed, However, assuming nobody changes the way they aware numbered for version again, its actually pretty easy to check it manually. I will say though that any that have customised hotkeys, may or may not keep them. Does anyone know if this setting is kept on all add ons one updates?

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] AddOns wno't update with latest NVDA what's the process?


Hi,
These add-ons do not support add-on update facility, as there is no regular snapshots for them.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 10:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] AddOns wno't update with latest NVDA what's the process?

I'm running NVDA's latest, with supposedly the latest AddOns; I can't get the GoldWave or Resource Monitor to update themselves, like they say it should be. What's the process for this to happen? I closed and restarted NVDA, but no dialogue about updates to newer Addons or nothing. Thanks for info.

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Re: I've had it with Firefox

Gerardo Corripio
 

I'm trying Firefox ESR and it flies! because as you guys, I'm tired of Firefox's regular browser: I was trying to update it to the latest version a little while ago, and it kept saying that it couldn't find an entry point etc etc, thus I uninstalled it and am trying with Firefox ESR, but I don't hear any sounds when a file is downloaded. Are there any AddOns one can install for this?


El 29/06/2018 a las 01:08 p.m., Lino Morales escribió:

So do I. For now its making browsing much faster. Of course I’ll continue to use Edge for some things, but I’m so used to the FF layout.

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 12:43:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox
 

Hi, Lino,

 

I use waterfox and it works great for me. It's a bit faster than firefox and I like that.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 10:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox

 

Well like I said in my subject line I’ve had I

with firefox. Every site is slowith NVDa even the mobile FB site. I bit the bullet and downloaded Waterfox. Seems to work much better. May I’ll wait ti FF 70 and see how fast that will be. So long FF. Me and WF and Edge are good buddies.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


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Re: Lots Of NVDA Freezes

Jim Homme
 

Hi,
So far, I now can predict that if I type fast enough in the Windows search box, NVDA will freeze. The same thing happens on long web pages or ones with lots of scripting. Finally, when it freezes, I can never find the log file.

Finally, and I do not know if this is related, NVDA is very sluggish in Word docs with lots of tables. In General, in Word, it has always been more sluggish than my other screen reader.

If I disable all add-ons, I get less freezing.

Jim
Jim



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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jackie
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 3:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Lots Of NVDA Freezes

Your event viewer is under Administrative Tools' in Control Panel. I'd be looking at both systems & applications events.

On 6/21/18, Jim Homme <jhomme@benderconsult.com> wrote:
Hi Jackie,

If you can point me to instructions, I would be very grateful. I’d be
glad to take it from there.



Thanks.



Jim




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Digital Accessibility
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412-787-8567
https://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-accessible-techn
ology-solutions People with disabilities, access job openings at
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Jackie
<abletec@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 2:33:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Lots Of NVDA Freezes

Jim, I'm running Win 10 & latest NVDA & not experiencing those sorts
of problems. It'd be interesting to see if your event logs contain
anything notable, ie, I'm wondering if this could possibly be
hardware-related.

On 6/21/18, Jim Homme <jhomme@benderconsult.com> wrote:
Hi,
As far as I can figure out, I’m having so many freezes with NVDA
since Windows 10 was updated, NVDA went to 2018.2.1, or both, that I
can’t reliably use NVDA. As far as I can tell, NVEA is not crashing,
because I am looking for the old log file by using Windows+R, then
typing temp and looking for it in that folder. I have debug turned on
for the log. When NVDA freezes, it seems that the keyboard freezes. I
have been trying to run either JAWS or Narrator, then passing the
NVDA+F1 key stroke to get at the existing log, because I’m assuming
that NVDA is still running, since I have not found the old log
hanging around. I could really use some advise diagnosing this issue,
so that I can either add to a GitHub issue some useful information or
make a new one.

Thanks so much for letting me rant.

Jim



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412-787-8567
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Re: I've had it with Firefox

Jackie
 

I don't think that concluding there's an interaction w/accessibility
technology in terms of FF's slowness is necessarily valid. My own
tendency is to feel that there may be something like vendorware (yall
know--the crap vendors load onto their machines) or malware (perhaps
vendorware & malware are 1 & the same)--might be responsible. In terms
of not running any addons, you should really check, because sometimes
Office, etc, installs addons you may not even be aware of unless you
go in & look. Mostly just thinkin out loud on a Friday, & that's
always dangerous for me.

On 6/29/18, Lino Morales <linomorales001@gmail.com> wrote:
So do I. For now its making browsing much faster. Of course I’ll continue to
use Edge for some things, but I’m so used to the FF layout.

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________________________________
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Rosemarie
Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 12:43:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox

Hi, Lino,

I use waterfox and it works great for me. It's a bit faster than firefox and
I like that.

Rosemarie



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino
Morales
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 10:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox

Well like I said in my subject line I’ve had I
with firefox. Every site is slowith NVDa even the mobile FB site. I bit the
bullet and downloaded Waterfox. Seems to work much better. May I’ll wait ti
FF 70 and see how fast that will be. So long FF. Me and WF and Edge are good
buddies.

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Re: I've had it with Firefox

Lino Morales
 

So do I. For now its making browsing much faster. Of course I’ll continue to use Edge for some things, but I’m so used to the FF layout.

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 12:43:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox
 

Hi, Lino,

 

I use waterfox and it works great for me. It's a bit faster than firefox and I like that.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 10:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox

 

Well like I said in my subject line I’ve had I

with firefox. Every site is slowith NVDa even the mobile FB site. I bit the bullet and downloaded Waterfox. Seems to work much better. May I’ll wait ti FF 70 and see how fast that will be. So long FF. Me and WF and Edge are good buddies.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: I've had it with Firefox

Lino Morales
 

Jackie. I wasn’t running any add-ons with Firefox. Heck I don’t even run Adobe Flash V 30 the non IE cause I don’t need it anymore for sites like MLB’s gameday audio since now they use an HTML 5 player.

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Jackie <abletec@...>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 12:18:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox
 
Makes me wonder whether or not certain FF addons are causing problems.
Might those who are having problems try going into FF w/safe mode on,
ie, instead of pressing enter on the desktop shortcut press
shift-enter & see if it makes any difference?

Having said that, I'm having some sort of difficulty which, when I
have a few FF windows open, the computer sometimes just restarts. I'm
not seeing anything in the logs that's helpful. I'm gonna have to look
further. Torques me off, cuz I've got lots of stuff going on right
now.

On 6/28/18, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> It will be interesting to see what happens over time.  Recently, I saw one
> or two articles from sighted reviewers, saying that Firefox is back and its
> redesign makes it competetive with Chrome again.  So those who don't use it
> now might want to try new versions over time to see if the accessibility
> problems, which are causing slowness, are resolved.  For sighted users,
> according to what I've read, Firefox is very fast now.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Jaffar Sidek
> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 8:28 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox
>
>
> One thing I can't stand with latest FF is that there is a lag when I type
> words as I fill in a search box or fill up a form.  Happens with both Jaws
> and NVDA.  Cheers!
>
>
>
>
> On 29/6/2018 6:19 AM, David Moore wrote:
>
>   Wow, Guys!
>
>   I am using a little netbook, an HP Stream, and I only have a 2 Ghz
> processor, 2 gigs of ram, and I am using Chrome with the latest Windows 10,
> and Chrome
>
>   Flies!
>
>   It takes a second to open, and 2 seconds to open a large page!
>
>   Maybe you should switch to Chrome.
>
>   With Firefox Quantum, It is as slow as a snail on a much more powerful
> laptop I have!
>
>   Just letting you know!
>
>   David Moore
>
>   Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
>
>
>   From: Sarah k Alawami
>   Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 4:41 PM
>   To: nvda list list
>   Subject: Re: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox
>
>
>
>   32   gigs of ram, 4 ghz graphics card and a6 ghz processer. Windows 10 64
> bit and  the latest firefox quantum.
>
>
>
>   > On Jun 28, 2018, at 12:45 PM, bob jutzi <jutzi1@...> wrote:
>
>   >
>
>   > How much memory do you have in your system?  I'm running a 3.7ghz Core
> i3, total of 12MB available, and Windows 10 64.  Othre than a little lag
> when loading a page into Browse Mode, no new issues with V60 of Firefox.
> One annoying issue I've always had with FF is some sites, such as
> Pizzahut.com require setting Page Styles to None in order for all links to
> be recognized by NVDA.  There may be workarounds for this, just not aware of
> them.  I still prefer the Fox over Edge or Internet Exploder.
>
>   >
>
>   > On 6/28/2018 3:18 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
>
>   >> I have. And no I  do not run firefox on the mac. I can't. But yeah
> firefox is  snappy  on my win 10 64 bit machine.
>
>   >>> On Jun 28, 2018, at 11:31 AM, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...
> <mailto:linomorales001@...>> wrote:
>
>   >>>
>
>   >>> How slow is it for you? You are running a Mac right? Have you ran on
> an actual PC 64 bit running WIN 10?
>
>   >>> Sent fromMail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>for
> Windows 10
>
>   >>>
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>
>   >>> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io
> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io><nvda@nvda.groups.io
> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> on behalf of Sarah k Alawami
> <marrie12@... <mailto:marrie12@...>>
>
>   >>> *Sent:*Thursday, June 28, 2018 2:29:17 PM
>
>   >>> *To:*nvda list list
>
>   >>> *Subject:*Re: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox
>
>   >>> I'll sticke with FF Loving it over here. I go between that and
> chrome.
>
>   >>>
>
>   >>>> On Jun 28, 2018, at 10:46 AM, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...
> <mailto:linomorales001@...>> wrote:
>
>   >>>>
>
>   >>>> Well like I said in my subject line I’ve had I
>
>   >>>> with firefox. Every site is slowith NVDa even the mobile FB site. I
> bit the bullet and downloaded Waterfox. Seems to work much better. May I’ll
> wait ti FF 70 and see how fast that will be. So long FF. Me and WF and Edge
> are good buddies.
>
>   >>>> Sent fromMail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>for
> Windows 10
>
>   >>>
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>   >
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>   >
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Re: AddOns wno't update with latest NVDA what's the process?

 

Hi,
These add-ons do not support add-on update facility, as there is no regular snapshots for them.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 10:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] AddOns wno't update with latest NVDA what's the process?

I'm running NVDA's latest, with supposedly the latest AddOns; I can't get the GoldWave or Resource Monitor to update themselves, like they say it should be. What's the process for this to happen? I closed and restarted NVDA, but no dialogue about updates to newer Addons or nothing. Thanks for info.

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AddOns wno't update with latest NVDA what's the process?

Gerardo Corripio
 

I'm running NVDA's latest, with supposedly the latest AddOns; I can't get the GoldWave or Resource Monitor to update themselves, like they say it should be. What's the process for this to happen? I closed and restarted NVDA, but no dialogue about updates to newer Addons or nothing. Thanks for info.

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