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Re: Firefox seems slower?

Jaffar Sidek
 

Hi.  Someone did bring up the value of migrating to the Waterfox web browser sometime ago.  Well, I took Waterfox for a spin and I am converted.  I'm not sure if Waterfox uses the mozilla engine, but it seems to be faster and smoother and less cluttered than Firefox.  I tried it with both Jaws and NVDA, and NVDA came up tops.  You can't go far wrong if you at least give Waterfox a try.  Google for it.  If you are willing to get off your comfort zone and work with something different, you'll reap the nenifits immediately.  Anyway, there is not much of a difference in Waterfox's and Firefox's interface, so the learning curve isn't steep.  Cheers!

On 14/3/2018 8:12 PM, Matt Turner wrote:
Hi folks.

Does anyone find that firefox is really slow?

I'm using nvda 2018.1.

As for firefox, I've tried all of the beta/ nightly channels, but chrome, seems to run alot faster.

Is it just the computer, or just me.



Re: Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

 

sure, they are not from microsoft!
they maybe are scammer who want to infect your system, so,
dont contact any number that they provided and dont allow remote
control of your system for them!

On 3/15/18, Don H <lmddh50@adams.net> wrote:
Don't know how powerful the Malicious Software Removal Tool is but you
can always run it. At the run command type mrt and press enter then
follow the prompts.

On 3/14/2018 5:41 PM, Giles Turnbull wrote:
Hi all,

somehow today I've picked up the adware that plays an audio warning that
the computer mayh be infected with viruses and to contact Microsoft
technical support on 'this number' for somebody who will help clean your
computer (or bank account!)

Anyway, I ran adwcleaner and that didn't help so I wondered what other
tools people had been able to use with NVDA.

Curiously this adware is only affecting Firefox ... Internet Explorer is
not affected. I tried installing an earlier version over the current
Firefox version I was using, but that just played the same malware.
Adwcleaner did detect and remove some pup files but again to no effect.

any suggestions would be very welcome :)

Giles



--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

 

hi.
did you install recent version of firefox?
if so, which version exactly?
and i read that accessibility does not work in firefox 57 and newer, am i right?
you can uninstall current version and download and install esr version.
which esr version did you download exactly? 52.7?

On 3/15/18, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
I think something else may be disabling the accessibility settings and you
are getting the message because they are disabled. I see no reason why,
unless there is a bug in a very recent update, accessibility settings should
be disabled by the program itself. We'll see. If you get the message on
another computer, I have an ESR that I haven't let update recently, because
I use it so seldom. I may send it to you so you can see what happens.

I think we would have heard something from other users if this were a
general probloem, though.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: David Griffith
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 6:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with old versions of Portable firefox


I think it is plausible given that there is a Mozilla message saying that
accessibility has been disabled.

I will however try installing it on my laptop tomorrow.

David Griffith



My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts



From: Gene
Sent: 14 March 2018 23:53
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with old versions of Portable firefox



That isn't plausible. I suspect some problem with your system.



I may try downloading the portable version again to see what happens. I
downloaded it perhaps two months ago and it works properly. Do you have
another computer to try it on?



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: David Griffith

Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 6:38 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with old versions of Portable firefox



Thanks but even the ESR Portable version is now warning that Accessibility
Features have been disabled wen I install it.

I understand the question somebody else posted last week about how could
portable apps could now be made accessible.

It does look like Mozilla has pulled accessibility support on all it current
portable downloads.

After installation I can access the menus and have been through all the
options but can find no way to make even this ESR version accessible.

I can open a web page such as www.bbc.co.uk using control L and the title
of the window will say BBC home but there is no way to ;read any of the
content in the resulting page or navigate using tab, or element shortcuts H
for heading etc.

I got similarly zero feedback when I opened www.google.co.uk.

Firefox ESR and NVDA announces Google home but it is impossible to navigate
to or read any of the web page or edit fields with NVDA.

NVDA does not even recognise the BBC Home page as a web page in this ESR
portable version , if I try insert F7 for Elements list all that comes up is
a message from Firefox asking me if I want caret browsing enabled.

For reference NVDA is still working normally with installed versions of
Waterfox and Chrome and Edge and even Internet Explorer.

I am on Windows 10 latest release and NVDA 2018.1

David Griffith

.



w







My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts



From: Gene
Sent: 14 March 2018 22:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with old versions of Portable firefox



You can download Firefox portable versions from portableapps.com

https://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable



You will see a link to the ESR version on that page.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: David Griffith

Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 5:14 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] Problem with old versions of Portable firefox



Following suggestions on this list to use portable versions of Firefox,
potentially with Webvisum, I downloaded and installed first of all the
portable versions of Firefox 52 and then Firefox 51.

It was surprising that even for Portable versions there was an installation
process though the result was a folder labelled Firefox Portable with a
portable executable in it.

I was more surprised after both installs that a message came up saying that
accessibility features had been disable , despite these being older versions
of Firefox.

Sure enough after running the programs I found these installs unusable both
with NVDA and Jaws 2018.

I downloaded these portable versions of Firefox from the Mozilla site but it
appears that they are not genuine older versions as they all appear to have
the accessibility problem.

Is there an alternative source of portable versions that are accessible?

David Griffith



How have people got around this?







My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts








--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


IRC, instructions on how to use, and NVDA accessibility

Kwork
 

I'm thinking about entering the world of IRC. I've heard it's fairly accessible for blind users. How accessible is it with NVDA, and how would I go about learning how to use, set up, etc? Thanks for any help.


Re: Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

Gene
 

I think something else may be disabling the accessibility settings and you are getting the message because they are disabled.  I see no reason why, unless there is a bug in a very recent update, accessibility settings should be disabled by the program itself.  We'll see.  If you get the message on another computer, I have an ESR that I haven't let update recently, because I use it so seldom.  I may send it to you so you can see what happens.
 
I think we would have heard something from other users if this were a general probloem, though.
 

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

I think it is plausible given that there is a Mozilla message saying that accessibility has been disabled.

I will however try installing it on my laptop tomorrow.

David Griffith

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: Gene
Sent: 14 March 2018 23:53
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

 

That isn't plausible.  I suspect some problem with your system. 

 

I may try downloading the portable version again to see what happens.  I downloaded it perhaps two months ago and it works properly.  Do you have another computer to try it on? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 6:38 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

 

Thanks but even the ESR Portable version is now warning that Accessibility Features have been disabled wen I install it.

I understand the question somebody else posted last week about how could portable apps could now be made accessible.

It does look like Mozilla has pulled accessibility support on all it current portable downloads.

After installation I can access the menus and have been through all the options but can find no way to make even this ESR version accessible.

I can open a web page such as www.bbc.co.uk  using control L and the title of the window will say BBC home but there is no way to ;read any of the content in the resulting page or navigate using tab, or element shortcuts H for heading etc.

I got similarly zero feedback when I opened www.google.co.uk.

Firefox ESR and NVDA announces Google home but it is impossible to navigate to or read any of the web page or edit fields with NVDA.

NVDA does not even recognise the BBC Home page as a web page in this ESR portable version , if I try insert F7 for Elements list all that comes up is a message from Firefox asking me if I want caret browsing enabled.

For reference NVDA is still working normally with installed versions  of Waterfox and Chrome and Edge and even Internet Explorer.

I am on Windows 10 latest release and NVDA 2018.1

David Griffith

.

 

w

 

 

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: Gene
Sent: 14 March 2018 22:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

 

You can download Firefox portable versions from portableapps.com

 

You will see a link to the ESR version on that page.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 5:14 PM

Subject: [nvda] Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

 

Following suggestions on this list to use portable versions of Firefox, potentially with Webvisum, I downloaded and installed first of all the portable versions of Firefox 52 and then Firefox 51.

It was surprising that even for Portable versions there was an installation process though the result  was a  folder labelled Firefox Portable with a portable executable in it.

I was more surprised after both installs that a message came up saying that accessibility features had been disable , despite these being older versions  of Firefox.

Sure enough  after running the programs I found these installs unusable both with NVDA and Jaws 2018.

I downloaded these portable versions of Firefox from the Mozilla site but it appears that they are not genuine older versions as they all appear to have the accessibility problem.

Is there an alternative source of portable versions  that are accessible?

David Griffith

 

How have people got  around this?

 

 

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

 

 


Request: whoever had a suggetion about SPL Studio add-on features, please subscribe to NVDA-SPL list

 

Hi all,

 

I know someone had a suggestion about a feature in StationPlaylist Studio add-on. If that’s you, please subscribe to NVDA-SPL mailing list (nvda-spl+subscribe@groups.io) so we can have a chat about your proposal on that list (not here).

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: firefox 59 64 bit

enes sarıbaş
 

hi,
No speed penalty here.

On 3/14/2018 11:02 PM, Felix G. wrote:
Hi!
If you can live with a slight speed penalty compared to the ESR, then yes, it's the way to go. It's just been officially released and shouldn't give you much trouble.
Greetings,
Felix

Chris via Groups.Io <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io> schrieb am Mi., 14. März 2018 um 19:18 Uhr:

Best version of firefox so far 😃

 

 

 

From: Don H
Sent: 14 March 2018 18:12
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] firefox 59 64 bit

 

My firefox just updated itself to version 59 64 bit.  I am running NVDA

2018-1 on my Win10 64 bit laptop.  Is this best firefox to be using with

NVDA?  Are there any firefox settings that should be changed to work

best with NVDA 2018-1?

Thanks

 

 

 

 



Re: Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

 

And thats why firefox is crap now, they don't care about accessibility use waterfox.

On 15/03/2018 12:38 p.m., David Griffith wrote:
Thanks but even the ESR Portable version is now warning that Accessibility Features have been disabled wen I install it.
I understand the question somebody else posted last week about how could portable apps could now be made accessible.
It does look like Mozilla has pulled accessibility support on all it current portable downloads.
After installation I can access the menus and have been through all the options but can find no way to make even this ESR version accessible.
I can open a web page such as www.bbc.co.uk using control L and the title of the window will say BBC home but there is no way to ;read any of the content in the resulting page or navigate using tab, or element shortcuts H for heading etc.
I got similarly zero feedback when I opened www.google.co.uk.
Firefox ESR and NVDA announces Google home but it is impossible to navigate to or read any of the web page or edit fields with NVDA.
NVDA does not even recognise the BBC Home page as a web page in this ESR portable version , if I try insert F7 for Elements list all that comes up is a message from Firefox asking me if I want caret browsing enabled.
For reference NVDA is still working normally with installed versions of Waterfox and Chrome and Edge and even Internet Explorer.
I am on Windows 10 latest release and NVDA 2018.1
David Griffith
.

w



My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

From: Gene
Sent: 14 March 2018 22:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

You can download Firefox portable versions from portableapps.com
https://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable
You will see a link to the ESR version on that page.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: David Griffith
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 5:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

Following suggestions on this list to use portable versions of Firefox, potentially with Webvisum, I downloaded and installed first of all the portable versions of Firefox 52 and then Firefox 51.
It was surprising that even for Portable versions there was an installation process though the result  was a  folder labelled Firefox Portable with a portable executable in it.
I was more surprised after both installs that a message came up saying that accessibility features had been disable , despite these being older versions  of Firefox.
Sure enough  after running the programs I found these installs unusable both with NVDA and Jaws 2018.
I downloaded these portable versions of Firefox from the Mozilla site but it appears that they are not genuine older versions as they all appear to have the accessibility problem.
Is there an alternative source of portable versions  that are accessible?
David Griffith

How have people got  around this?



My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts




Re: Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

David Griffith
 

I think it is plausible given that there is a Mozilla message saying that accessibility has been disabled.

I will however try installing it on my laptop tomorrow.

David Griffith

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: Gene
Sent: 14 March 2018 23:53
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

 

That isn't plausible.  I suspect some problem with your system. 

 

I may try downloading the portable version again to see what happens.  I downloaded it perhaps two months ago and it works properly.  Do you have another computer to try it on? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 6:38 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

 

Thanks but even the ESR Portable version is now warning that Accessibility Features have been disabled wen I install it.

I understand the question somebody else posted last week about how could portable apps could now be made accessible.

It does look like Mozilla has pulled accessibility support on all it current portable downloads.

After installation I can access the menus and have been through all the options but can find no way to make even this ESR version accessible.

I can open a web page such as www.bbc.co.uk  using control L and the title of the window will say BBC home but there is no way to ;read any of the content in the resulting page or navigate using tab, or element shortcuts H for heading etc.

I got similarly zero feedback when I opened www.google.co.uk.

Firefox ESR and NVDA announces Google home but it is impossible to navigate to or read any of the web page or edit fields with NVDA.

NVDA does not even recognise the BBC Home page as a web page in this ESR portable version , if I try insert F7 for Elements list all that comes up is a message from Firefox asking me if I want caret browsing enabled.

For reference NVDA is still working normally with installed versions  of Waterfox and Chrome and Edge and even Internet Explorer.

I am on Windows 10 latest release and NVDA 2018.1

David Griffith

.

 

w

 

 

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: Gene
Sent: 14 March 2018 22:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

 

You can download Firefox portable versions from portableapps.com

 

You will see a link to the ESR version on that page.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 5:14 PM

Subject: [nvda] Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

 

Following suggestions on this list to use portable versions of Firefox, potentially with Webvisum, I downloaded and installed first of all the portable versions of Firefox 52 and then Firefox 51.

It was surprising that even for Portable versions there was an installation process though the result  was a  folder labelled Firefox Portable with a portable executable in it.

I was more surprised after both installs that a message came up saying that accessibility features had been disable , despite these being older versions  of Firefox.

Sure enough  after running the programs I found these installs unusable both with NVDA and Jaws 2018.

I downloaded these portable versions of Firefox from the Mozilla site but it appears that they are not genuine older versions as they all appear to have the accessibility problem.

Is there an alternative source of portable versions  that are accessible?

David Griffith

 

How have people got  around this?

 

 

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

 

 


Re: Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

Gene
 

That isn't plausible.  I suspect some problem with your system. 
 
I may try downloading the portable version again to see what happens.  I downloaded it perhaps two months ago and it works properly.  Do you have another computer to try it on? 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

Thanks but even the ESR Portable version is now warning that Accessibility Features have been disabled wen I install it.

I understand the question somebody else posted last week about how could portable apps could now be made accessible.

It does look like Mozilla has pulled accessibility support on all it current portable downloads.

After installation I can access the menus and have been through all the options but can find no way to make even this ESR version accessible.

I can open a web page such as www.bbc.co.uk  using control L and the title of the window will say BBC home but there is no way to ;read any of the content in the resulting page or navigate using tab, or element shortcuts H for heading etc.

I got similarly zero feedback when I opened www.google.co.uk.

Firefox ESR and NVDA announces Google home but it is impossible to navigate to or read any of the web page or edit fields with NVDA.

NVDA does not even recognise the BBC Home page as a web page in this ESR portable version , if I try insert F7 for Elements list all that comes up is a message from Firefox asking me if I want caret browsing enabled.

For reference NVDA is still working normally with installed versions  of Waterfox and Chrome and Edge and even Internet Explorer.

I am on Windows 10 latest release and NVDA 2018.1

David Griffith

.

 

w

 

 

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: Gene
Sent: 14 March 2018 22:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

 

You can download Firefox portable versions from portableapps.com

 

You will see a link to the ESR version on that page.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 5:14 PM

Subject: [nvda] Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

 

Following suggestions on this list to use portable versions of Firefox, potentially with Webvisum, I downloaded and installed first of all the portable versions of Firefox 52 and then Firefox 51.

It was surprising that even for Portable versions there was an installation process though the result  was a  folder labelled Firefox Portable with a portable executable in it.

I was more surprised after both installs that a message came up saying that accessibility features had been disable , despite these being older versions  of Firefox.

Sure enough  after running the programs I found these installs unusable both with NVDA and Jaws 2018.

I downloaded these portable versions of Firefox from the Mozilla site but it appears that they are not genuine older versions as they all appear to have the accessibility problem.

Is there an alternative source of portable versions  that are accessible?

David Griffith

 

How have people got  around this?

 

 

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

 


Re: Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

David Griffith
 

Thanks but even the ESR Portable version is now warning that Accessibility Features have been disabled wen I install it.

I understand the question somebody else posted last week about how could portable apps could now be made accessible.

It does look like Mozilla has pulled accessibility support on all it current portable downloads.

After installation I can access the menus and have been through all the options but can find no way to make even this ESR version accessible.

I can open a web page such as www.bbc.co.uk  using control L and the title of the window will say BBC home but there is no way to ;read any of the content in the resulting page or navigate using tab, or element shortcuts H for heading etc.

I got similarly zero feedback when I opened www.google.co.uk.

Firefox ESR and NVDA announces Google home but it is impossible to navigate to or read any of the web page or edit fields with NVDA.

NVDA does not even recognise the BBC Home page as a web page in this ESR portable version , if I try insert F7 for Elements list all that comes up is a message from Firefox asking me if I want caret browsing enabled.

For reference NVDA is still working normally with installed versions  of Waterfox and Chrome and Edge and even Internet Explorer.

I am on Windows 10 latest release and NVDA 2018.1

David Griffith

.

 

w

 

 

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: Gene
Sent: 14 March 2018 22:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

 

You can download Firefox portable versions from portableapps.com

 

You will see a link to the ESR version on that page.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 5:14 PM

Subject: [nvda] Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

 

Following suggestions on this list to use portable versions of Firefox, potentially with Webvisum, I downloaded and installed first of all the portable versions of Firefox 52 and then Firefox 51.

It was surprising that even for Portable versions there was an installation process though the result  was a  folder labelled Firefox Portable with a portable executable in it.

I was more surprised after both installs that a message came up saying that accessibility features had been disable , despite these being older versions  of Firefox.

Sure enough  after running the programs I found these installs unusable both with NVDA and Jaws 2018.

I downloaded these portable versions of Firefox from the Mozilla site but it appears that they are not genuine older versions as they all appear to have the accessibility problem.

Is there an alternative source of portable versions  that are accessible?

David Griffith

 

How have people got  around this?

 

 

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

 


Re: Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

Don H
 

Don't know how powerful the Malicious Software Removal Tool is but you can always run it. At the run command type mrt and press enter then follow the prompts.

On 3/14/2018 5:41 PM, Giles Turnbull wrote:
Hi all,
somehow today I've picked up the adware that plays an audio warning that the computer mayh be infected with viruses and to contact Microsoft technical support on 'this number' for somebody who will help clean your computer (or bank account!)
Anyway, I ran adwcleaner and that didn't help so I wondered what other tools people had been able to use with NVDA.
Curiously this adware is only affecting Firefox ... Internet Explorer is not affected. I tried installing an earlier version over the current Firefox version I was using, but that just played the same malware. Adwcleaner did detect and remove some pup files but again to no effect.
any suggestions would be very welcome :)
Giles


Re: Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

Gene
 

You can download Firefox portable versions from portableapps.com
 
You will see a link to the ESR version on that page.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 5:14 PM
Subject: [nvda] Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

Following suggestions on this list to use portable versions of Firefox, potentially with Webvisum, I downloaded and installed first of all the portable versions of Firefox 52 and then Firefox 51.

It was surprising that even for Portable versions there was an installation process though the result  was a  folder labelled Firefox Portable with a portable executable in it.

I was more surprised after both installs that a message came up saying that accessibility features had been disable , despite these being older versions  of Firefox.

Sure enough  after running the programs I found these installs unusable both with NVDA and Jaws 2018.

I downloaded these portable versions of Firefox from the Mozilla site but it appears that they are not genuine older versions as they all appear to have the accessibility problem.

Is there an alternative source of portable versions  that are accessible?

David Griffith

 

How have people got  around this?

 

 

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 


Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

Giles Turnbull
 

Hi all,

somehow today I've picked up the adware that plays an audio warning that the computer mayh be infected with viruses and to contact Microsoft technical support on 'this number' for somebody who will help clean your computer (or bank account!)

Anyway, I ran adwcleaner and that didn't help so I wondered what other tools people had been able to use with NVDA.

Curiously this adware is only affecting Firefox ... Internet Explorer is not affected. I tried installing an earlier version over the current Firefox version I was using, but that just played the same malware. Adwcleaner did detect and remove some pup files but again to no effect.

any suggestions would be very welcome :)

Giles


Re: Other tool for solving the Verification Image

Giles Turnbull
 

The only Captcha tool I ever used was included with an early Twitter client for the blind, called Qwitter. Sadly that vanished and there was no equivalent when Qwitter evolved into The Qube. But what I do use now is the iPhone and Android app Be My Eyes. It calls a human volunteer who uses the rear camera on the phone to tell you whatever you want ... such as the colour of a tshirt or what a Captcha image says. I've used Be My Eyes twice today to assist when Windows was doing an update and I didn't hear anything further (I realise that I'd somehow turned the NVDA setting to start automatically when logged in to Windows off). Obviously common sense applies - not having any files open with login details to any accounts visible, but you'd get an answer to your random letters test within the minute! ... And BME is free to install and use :) 


Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

David Griffith
 

Following suggestions on this list to use portable versions of Firefox, potentially with Webvisum, I downloaded and installed first of all the portable versions of Firefox 52 and then Firefox 51.

It was surprising that even for Portable versions there was an installation process though the result  was a  folder labelled Firefox Portable with a portable executable in it.

I was more surprised after both installs that a message came up saying that accessibility features had been disable , despite these being older versions  of Firefox.

Sure enough  after running the programs I found these installs unusable both with NVDA and Jaws 2018.

I downloaded these portable versions of Firefox from the Mozilla site but it appears that they are not genuine older versions as they all appear to have the accessibility problem.

Is there an alternative source of portable versions  that are accessible?

David Griffith

 

How have people got  around this?

 

 

 

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http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
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Re: Focused mode

Chris
 

If you don’t want focus mode then turn off automatic focus mode under browse mode settings in NVDA

That will fix it 😃

 

 


Re: Focused mode

Jonathan COHN
 

I tested this out briefly on my Windows 7 machine with NVDA 2018.1

 

  1. Open Firefox 59  to www.google.com
  2. 2turned off focus mode.
  3. Opened up Outlook 365.
  4. Enabled sleep mode with nvda-shift-s
  5. Quit outlook  with alt-f4

At this point my firefox returned to focus and browse mode was still enabled.

 

So, sorry I can’t reproduce with the guidance provided.

 

Best Wishes,

 

Jonathan

 

 

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Focused mode

 


Re: Focused mode

Caleb Neyenhuis
 

Nvda 18.1


Re: Focused mode

Caleb Neyenhuis
 

Yes it happens on audeo games which is what i play